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Quantum of Solace was Bond at rock bottom: drunk and mournful and wanting to tear some asses up because they took away something he loved
Now that he's come to terms with that, he can get back to business
Also I like the idea they've proposed that Quantum might sorta hang around in future movies as the new SPECTRE, always there and doing evil things even if they're not the direct villain of a given movie
Yeah that's a fair assessment of it I'd say. Which made for an enjoyable movie experience for me. Daniel Craig pissed off with nothing to lose looking to get some back no matter the cost? Yes please.
It just feels a little off as a James Bond film. Not worth the amount of shit it gets though.
Is this where I outline my idea for my dream Bond movie (yes it is)
This only works on the premise that "James Bond 007" is the name and number given to the top 00 agent at any given time, and that when one dies or retires a new one takes his place, so each actor is actually portraying a separate character. Not only does this allow for the different faces and personalities but lack of aging over 50 years, in-universe it makes more sense than a spy telling everyone what his real name is.
Anyway, my idea was that Sean Connery would come out of retirement to play his Bond again, the first Bond, who is now a leader of a crime syndicate (or terrorist ring, or something). He's a bitter old man who's angry at MI6 for demanding so much of their promising young men before destroying their lives, and he's set out to destroy the agency. He's had all the training they have so he knows how to stay ahead of them and predict their moves, so Craig-Bond can't just punch his way to a solution. It would have a whole lot of revelations about MI6 and the nature of the 00 program and what happens to old cast-off spies.
It'll never happen because the studio has said they do not support the multiple agents hypothesis
And even if it were made it would probably have to be the last Bond movie ever
I think someone was talking about how Bond comes off as kind of a sociopath
Even if he's not, if you read the books he's a pretty cold dude
My favorite example is in the book of Casino Royale, when he's chasing the guys who kidnapped Vesper it provides the reader with his internal monologue
And it's basically "I can probably take all these guys in a gunfight, but I don't really like her that much and if she catches a bullet then it's her own damn fault because she knew the risks when she took the job"
BOND, regaining conciousness, sits restrained in a chair echoing the rope interrogation scene in Casino Royale. The room around him is filthy and damp, with various restraints dangling from the walls. The only light source is a dim overhead lamp that flickers and rocks back and forth, casting long shadows.
BOND
Ugh....
SHADOWY FIGURE
(Off-screen)
You have quite a knack for disrupting my plans, you know.
Camera pans to reveal the speaking SHADOWY FIGURE. His sillhouette is visible against the wall, but it is far too dark to make out any details, let alone his face.
BOND
Who are you? Where is this?
SHADOWY FIGURE
You're in a location that is almost impossible to find. Shows up blank on even the most advanced GPS. So don't hope for valiant last minute rescue.
Shadowy Figure takes a step forward, still not in the light.
SHADOWY FIGURE (CONT'D)
As for who I am, I might ask you the same question. Who is this man who has killed so many of my men.
Close-up on Bond, bloodied and bruised but defiant and cocky regardless. He smiles the faintest of grins.
BOND
I'm Bond. James Bond.
Shadowy Figure pauses for a moment, then steps forward into the light, revealing Sean Connery's weathered face, JAMES BOND I.
JAMES BOND I
What a coincidence, So am I.
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edited April 2011
I never understood why people were confused about the title.
It's a very tiny, miniscule, basically nonexistent amount of solace.
That about sums up the movie.
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BusterKNegativity is Boring Cynicism is Cowardice Registered Userregular
edited April 2011
I remember playing Everything or Nothing
and liking it for what it was
But then I played From Russia With Love and was severely disappointed
Just like EoN it was very gadget heavy
And what I liked about Sean Connery Bond was that he beat the shit out of people with his bare hands
More of that should have been in the game
BOND, regaining conciousness, sits restrained in a chair echoing the rope interrogation scene in Casino Royale. The room around him is filthy and damp, with various restraints dangling from the walls. The only light source is a dim overhead lamp that flickers and rocks back and forth, casting long shadows.
BOND
Ugh....
SHADOWY FIGURE
(Off-screen)
You have quite a knack for disrupting my plans, you know.
Camera pans to reveal the speaking SHADOWY FIGURE. His sillhouette is visible against the wall, but it is far too dark to make out any details, let alone his face.
BOND
Who are you? Where is this?
SHADOWY FIGURE
You're in a place that is almost impossible to find. Shows up blank on even the most advanced GPS. So don't hope for valiant last minute rescue.
Shadowy Figure takes a step forward, still not in the light.
SHADOWY FIGURE (CONT'D)
As for who I am, I might ask you the same question. Who is this man who has killed so many of my men.
Close-up on Bond, bloodied and bruised but defiant and cocky regardless. He smiles the faintest of grins.
BOND
I'm Bond. James Bond.
Shadowy Figure pauses for a moment, then steps forward into the light, revealing Sean Connery's weathered face, JAMES BOND I.
you know another series of good, pulpy spy thrillers? the Matt Helm books. if you like the stone-cold, rough and tumble versions of Bond, you will likely favor these books, especially the earlier ones. the plots are tightly-paced and twisty, and the main character is logical and ruthless in his work as a counter-agent/assassin. there's also a surprising amount of continuity, given the genre, so reading them in order is a good idea. my dad got me hooked on 'em last year, and i need to thank him again for that...
evidently there were movies?
they were terrible -- or, at least, completely opposite the tone of the books, i.e. campy?
no telling if that particular reboot will happen, but if it were done well, it'd be a thing to see.
Is this where I outline my idea for my dream Bond movie (yes it is)
This only works on the premise that "James Bond 007" is the name and number given to the top 00 agent at any given time, and that when one dies or retires a new one takes his place, so each actor is actually portraying a separate character. Not only does this allow for the different faces and personalities but lack of aging over 50 years, in-universe it makes more sense than a spy telling everyone what his real name is.
Anyway, my idea was that Sean Connery would come out of retirement to play his Bond again, the first Bond, who is now a leader of a crime syndicate (or terrorist ring, or something). He's a bitter old man who's angry at MI6 for demanding so much of their promising young men before destroying their lives, and he's set out to destroy the agency. He's had all the training they have so he knows how to stay ahead of them and predict their moves, so Craig-Bond can't just punch his way to a solution. It would have a whole lot of revelations about MI6 and the nature of the 00 program and what happens to old cast-off spies.
It'll never happen because the studio has said they do not support the multiple agents hypothesis
And even if it were made it would probably have to be the last Bond movie ever
I agree that the multiple agents hypothesis is great but the way I'd like to see it handled would be to have Craig's current Bond be disavowed and then be hunted down by the new James Bond.
I dunno, he fucks up a mission and then there's a great scene between him and M and he has to shoot his way out of M16. Yeah it's a little Bourne, it's a little Mission Impossible.
But it would be awesome because you could have a scene where some dude who is not Daniel Craig walks into a bar and asks for the martini, shaken not stirred, and introduces himself as Bond, then Craig appears standing next to him and finishes the line - James Bond? Right?
Oh man thanks guys
Maybe I'll sit down and think this out and knock out some kind of rudimentary script some day
Please do!
I've always wanted to see Connery return as a Bond villain, but as just a generic 006-esque angry former agent, hadn't occured to me of combining it with the multiple bond theory
Per Fleming's novels 00s had to retire at 45 (although this was ignored later on, mandatory retirement at some point makes a kind of sense for special agents) and Connery's Bond doesn't strike me as someone who would just take that sitting down
Is this where I outline my idea for my dream Bond movie (yes it is)
This only works on the premise that "James Bond 007" is the name and number given to the top 00 agent at any given time, and that when one dies or retires a new one takes his place, so each actor is actually portraying a separate character. Not only does this allow for the different faces and personalities but lack of aging over 50 years, in-universe it makes more sense than a spy telling everyone what his real name is.
Anyway, my idea was that Sean Connery would come out of retirement to play his Bond again, the first Bond, who is now a leader of a crime syndicate (or terrorist ring, or something). He's a bitter old man who's angry at MI6 for demanding so much of their promising young men before destroying their lives, and he's set out to destroy the agency. He's had all the training they have so he knows how to stay ahead of them and predict their moves, so Craig-Bond can't just punch his way to a solution. It would have a whole lot of revelations about MI6 and the nature of the 00 program and what happens to old cast-off spies.
It'll never happen because the studio has said they do not support the multiple agents hypothesis
And even if it were made it would probably have to be the last Bond movie ever
I agree that the multiple agents hypothesis is great but the way I'd like to see it handled would be to have Craig's current Bond be disavowed and then be hunted down by the new James Bond.
I dunno, he fucks up a mission and then there's a great scene between him and M and he has to shoot his way out of M16. Yeah it's a little Bourne, it's a little Mission Impossible.
But it would be awesome because you could have a scene where some dude who is not Daniel Craig walks into a bar and asks for the martini, shaken not stirred, and introduces himself as Bond, then Craig appears standing next to him and finishes the line - James Bond? Right?
Goldeneye is also the best video game that is based on a Bond film.
Goldeneye is so fucking good that it's really difficult for any other Bond film to match up. The only ones that compare are Casino Royale, From Russia with Love, and maybe one or two other Connery entries. It's not only a perfect Bond movie, but a perfect action movie.
Just one of the setpieces in it would be enough for a bond film, but it has like 4.
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Now that he's come to terms with that, he can get back to business
Also I like the idea they've proposed that Quantum might sorta hang around in future movies as the new SPECTRE, always there and doing evil things even if they're not the direct villain of a given movie
It just feels a little off as a James Bond film. Not worth the amount of shit it gets though.
But then that scene where he's in the elevator and hands those four MI6 guys their asses with his hands cuffed
That's when it came out the other side and became fun again
This only works on the premise that "James Bond 007" is the name and number given to the top 00 agent at any given time, and that when one dies or retires a new one takes his place, so each actor is actually portraying a separate character. Not only does this allow for the different faces and personalities but lack of aging over 50 years, in-universe it makes more sense than a spy telling everyone what his real name is.
Anyway, my idea was that Sean Connery would come out of retirement to play his Bond again, the first Bond, who is now a leader of a crime syndicate (or terrorist ring, or something). He's a bitter old man who's angry at MI6 for demanding so much of their promising young men before destroying their lives, and he's set out to destroy the agency. He's had all the training they have so he knows how to stay ahead of them and predict their moves, so Craig-Bond can't just punch his way to a solution. It would have a whole lot of revelations about MI6 and the nature of the 00 program and what happens to old cast-off spies.
It'll never happen because the studio has said they do not support the multiple agents hypothesis
And even if it were made it would probably have to be the last Bond movie ever
that dream bond movie of yours is probably the best "I totally have an idea for an awesome movie, guys" pitch I have seen
Someone sounds gay for Grey Ghost.
GET IT
DO YOU GET IT
Penguin Incarnate said he really liked it and that is super high praise because I respect his opinion like whoa
No.
it is a very good idea and would make a wonderful last Bond movie
Even if he's not, if you read the books he's a pretty cold dude
My favorite example is in the book of Casino Royale, when he's chasing the guys who kidnapped Vesper it provides the reader with his internal monologue
And it's basically "I can probably take all these guys in a gunfight, but I don't really like her that much and if she catches a bullet then it's her own damn fault because she knew the risks when she took the job"
Maybe I'll sit down and think this out and knock out some kind of rudimentary script some day
BOND, regaining conciousness, sits restrained in a chair echoing the rope interrogation scene in Casino Royale. The room around him is filthy and damp, with various restraints dangling from the walls. The only light source is a dim overhead lamp that flickers and rocks back and forth, casting long shadows.
Ugh....
SHADOWY FIGURE
(Off-screen)
You have quite a knack for disrupting my plans, you know.
Camera pans to reveal the speaking SHADOWY FIGURE. His sillhouette is visible against the wall, but it is far too dark to make out any details, let alone his face.
Who are you? Where is this?
SHADOWY FIGURE
You're in a location that is almost impossible to find. Shows up blank on even the most advanced GPS. So don't hope for valiant last minute rescue.
As for who I am, I might ask you the same question. Who is this man who has killed so many of my men.
Close-up on Bond, bloodied and bruised but defiant and cocky regardless. He smiles the faintest of grins.
I'm Bond. James Bond.
Shadowy Figure pauses for a moment, then steps forward into the light, revealing Sean Connery's weathered face, JAMES BOND I.
What a coincidence, So am I.
It's a very tiny, miniscule, basically nonexistent amount of solace.
That about sums up the movie.
and liking it for what it was
But then I played From Russia With Love and was severely disappointed
Just like EoN it was very gadget heavy
And what I liked about Sean Connery Bond was that he beat the shit out of people with his bare hands
More of that should have been in the game
Like Indiana Jones and the Emperor's Tomb
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and then they fucked
evidently there were movies?
they were terrible -- or, at least, completely opposite the tone of the books, i.e. campy?
no telling if that particular reboot will happen, but if it were done well, it'd be a thing to see.
I agree that the multiple agents hypothesis is great but the way I'd like to see it handled would be to have Craig's current Bond be disavowed and then be hunted down by the new James Bond.
I dunno, he fucks up a mission and then there's a great scene between him and M and he has to shoot his way out of M16. Yeah it's a little Bourne, it's a little Mission Impossible.
But it would be awesome because you could have a scene where some dude who is not Daniel Craig walks into a bar and asks for the martini, shaken not stirred, and introduces himself as Bond, then Craig appears standing next to him and finishes the line - James Bond? Right?
Please do!
I've always wanted to see Connery return as a Bond villain, but as just a generic 006-esque angry former agent, hadn't occured to me of combining it with the multiple bond theory
Per Fleming's novels 00s had to retire at 45 (although this was ignored later on, mandatory retirement at some point makes a kind of sense for special agents) and Connery's Bond doesn't strike me as someone who would just take that sitting down
That would be cool
My thoughts exactly.
No
Goldeneye is so fucking good that it's really difficult for any other Bond film to match up. The only ones that compare are Casino Royale, From Russia with Love, and maybe one or two other Connery entries. It's not only a perfect Bond movie, but a perfect action movie.
Just one of the setpieces in it would be enough for a bond film, but it has like 4.
Yes.
NO
YES
It played really well too, apart from some jank with aiming down the sights and the fact that it's balls fucking hard in the same way as the original
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Almost certainly
This we can both agree upon.