So the sony e-mail says the same thing for everyone, not just the people who got information stolen?
My understanding is that they're sending the same email to every email address in the PSN system.
It is presumed that everyone in the PSN system got the information stolen.
So I guess both possibilities in your statement are true, depending on which angle you come at it from.
The email is the same for everyone depending on region, and contains the same information that is on the site.
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Garry: I know you gentlemen have been through a lot, but when you find the time I'd rather not spend the rest of the winter TIED TO THIS FUCKING COUCH!
And as a side note for the general public, this is a shotgun blast:
If you do illegal things (And you know you do. do not lie to me.), and then spit on a company who gets fucked, you should step back and reconsider your perspective. I hate Sony, but don't hate them because it's cool to do it right now. Just go about with yourself.
Wait, what? Like, any illegal things?
I got a speeding ticket a couple weeks ago, does that count?
#3: The hacker attitude is annoying because it's all about justifying sticking your nose in someone else's business. Program a f'ing game; customize your own Linux box to your heart's content; take up woodworking. But don't go fucking around other people's computers and systems and then act highminded about it. That's just creepy.
Despite Mr. Hotz's fervent hope to the contrary, the Linux/OtherOS/custom firmware/signing keys mess had precisely fuck-all to do with this hack.
1) If all it took was a reflash to dev firmware (ReDev) in order to access 70 million users' credit card numbers, then Sony's engineers are probably not capable of wiping their own asses without assistance. I refuse to believe that everyone over there is that incompetent.
2) If all it took was dev firmware, thousands of people have legitimate dev boxes and any one of those people could have accessed all your credit card information by design. Again, there's no way Sony designed a network like this: they need to at least pretend to meet PCI standards, and some disgruntled shovelware programmer would have done this long before now if it were that easy.
What happened here was a normal hack on a business, like the TJMaxx hack: somebody saw a monetary opportunity, found a hole, and took it. Same as a dude robbing a bank. Don't confuse this attitude with people like Hotz wanting to play around with their own PS3s in ways Sony didn't anticipate: they are completely unrelated.
I think that is, technically, illegal in the United States.
Fuck.
Nah, I'm pretty sure Dual Citizenship is perfectly legal in the US.
Depends on the country. Like you can't become a citizen of North Korea without losing your American citizenship.
I don't think you can become a citizen of DPRK at all. Unless of course you were born there. Dual Citizenship varies wildly between countries. I know a lot of Dual Canadians/USA Americans and plenty of Can/UK as well.
#3: The hacker attitude is annoying because it's all about justifying sticking your nose in someone else's business. Program a f'ing game; customize your own Linux box to your heart's content; take up woodworking. But don't go fucking around other people's computers and systems and then act highminded about it. That's just creepy.
Despite Mr. Hotz's fervent hope to the contrary, the Linux/OtherOS/custom firmware/signing keys mess had precisely fuck-all to do with this hack.
1) If all it took was a reflash to dev firmware (ReDev) in order to access 70 million users' credit card numbers, then Sony's engineers are probably not capable of wiping their own asses without assistance. I refuse to believe that everyone over there is that incompetent.
2) If all it took was dev firmware, thousands of people have legitimate dev boxes and any one of those people could have accessed all your credit card information by design. Again, there's no way Sony designed a network like this: they need to at least pretend to meet PCI standards, and some disgruntled shovelware programmer would have done this long before now if it were that easy.
What happened here was a normal hack on a business, like the TJMaxx hack: somebody saw a monetary opportunity, found a hole, and took it. Same as a dude robbing a bank. Don't confuse this attitude with people like Hotz wanting to play around with their own PS3s in ways Sony didn't anticipate: they are completely unrelated.
As if it couldn't get anymore stressful; A group of hackers on an IRC channel claim to have around 2.2 million credit card numbers with CVVs that they obtained from PSN. They are attempting to sell the database.
Likely fake but bleeeeh. Not sure what to think. There are a lot of crazy people out there. It is important to note too that PSN never actually required a CVV when purchasing something. So I suppose people could technically just steal your credit card info and load up on PSN games or something. That's not to reassuring.
No financial interactions through PSN ever ask for your CVV, so this would just be some trolls rabble-rousing or trying to find someone exceptionally goosey with some money they want to part with.
Don't bring this kind of shit into the thread please.
Fearmongering aside, I have a mild concern over the release of my personal information where someone might use it to attempt to open new accounts, but see that as unlikely. I have absolutely zero concern for my credit card information as I always keep close enough tabs on my finances to spot sketchy spending regardless. Fraudulent charges on a CC are probably the easiest financial issue to deal with, and I'll be keeping the same CC to use with PSN when it comes back up. Sony screwed the pooch, but I rather enjoy the PS3's services and so far no harm no foul.
Terrorists can take down our gaming networks! America is fucked! What will happen to this country's productivity if... oh, wait.
If terrorists managed to take down the Internet for a week (never mind that that's impossible, bear with me here) I will bet you that the average productivity of this country would go up. And that's after averaging in zeroes for everyone that works in an internet-related capacity.
As if it couldn't get anymore stressful; A group of hackers on an IRC channel claim to have around 2.2 million credit card numbers with CVVs that they obtained from PSN. They are attempting to sell the database.
Likely fake but bleeeeh. Not sure what to think. There are a lot of crazy people out there. It is important to note too that PSN never actually required a CVV when purchasing something. So I suppose people could technically just steal your credit card info and load up on PSN games or something. That's not to reassuring.
No financial interactions through PSN ever ask for your CVV, so this would just be some trolls rabble-rousing or trying to find someone exceptionally goosey with some money they want to part with.
Don't bring this kind of shit into the thread please.
Nah, people would use the time normally spent fucking around on the internet to bitch about not being able to fuck around on the internet.
As someone who has had internet access banned at work because of someone being a silly goose, I can vouch that this is accurate. Oh, and I made an elastic band ball. But mostly bitched about not being able to use the internet.
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Is there any legit reason to use Linux other than pure bloodymindedness? The whole OS just seems overly complicated and the antithesis of user friendly and for what? Less compatibility than you'd get from a Windows or Mac OS.
If theres one thing I've learned from my Linux class, its that the old quote "Linux is only free if your time is worth nothing" is true. I can understand its uses, especially in the business world, but would never use it as a consumer.
I will second that. Even using something like Ubuntu can give somebody conniptions over the insane lack of common sense involved. This is about what it's like to use Linux.
Me: I wanna use this thing.
Ubuntu: Sorry, you need to activate this obscure thing.
Me: Um, help on obscure thing.
Ubuntu: Nope.
Me: (obscure command isn't even remotely linked to the function)
Ubuntu: Hahaha!
Me: Run thing...
Ubuntu: Nope, you still have to install it.
Me: INSTALL THING.
Ubuntu: Sorry, you don't have the right library installed.
Me: FFFFFFFFFFFF.......!!!! (install library)
Ubuntu: The library isn't here. You have to go on the internet.
Me: (piece of shit deleted)
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Is there any legit reason to use Linux other than pure bloodymindedness? The whole OS just seems overly complicated and the antithesis of user friendly and for what? Less compatibility than you'd get from a Windows or Mac OS.
If theres one thing I've learned from my Linux class, its that the old quote "Linux is only free if your time is worth nothing" is true. I can understand its uses, especially in the business world, but would never use it as a consumer.
I will second that. Even using something like Ubuntu can give somebody conniptions over the insane lack of common sense involved. This is about what it's like to use Linux.
Me: I wanna use this thing.
Ubuntu: Sorry, you need to activate this obscure thing.
Me: Um, help on obscure thing.
Ubuntu: Nope.
Me: (obscure command isn't even remotely linked to the function)
Ubuntu: Hahaha!
Me: Run thing...
Ubuntu: Nope, you still have to install it.
Me: INSTALL THING.
Ubuntu: Sorry, you don't have the right library installed.
Me: FFFFFFFFFFFF.......!!!! (install library)
Ubuntu: The library isn't here. You have to go on the internet.
Me: (piece of shit deleted)
You forgot my favorite part!
Me: Excuse me, knowledgeable Linux folks on the internet, how do I activate obscure thing?
Knowledgeable Linux folks on the internet: man obscure thing.
Me: Uh, could you be mo--
Knowledgeable Linux folks on the internet: MAN OBSCURE THING. STOP ASKING. WHY ARE YOU SO STUPID?!
Linux is awesome, but its clearly not for everyone. Even though it's not for me, I still like the fact that people install it on everything.
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Is there any legit reason to use Linux other than pure bloodymindedness? The whole OS just seems overly complicated and the antithesis of user friendly and for what? Less compatibility than you'd get from a Windows or Mac OS.
If theres one thing I've learned from my Linux class, its that the old quote "Linux is only free if your time is worth nothing" is true. I can understand its uses, especially in the business world, but would never use it as a consumer.
I will second that. Even using something like Ubuntu can give somebody conniptions over the insane lack of common sense involved. This is about what it's like to use Linux.
Me: I wanna use this thing.
Ubuntu: Sorry, you need to activate this obscure thing.
Me: Um, help on obscure thing.
Ubuntu: Nope.
Me: (obscure command isn't even remotely linked to the function)
Ubuntu: Hahaha!
Me: Run thing...
Ubuntu: Nope, you still have to install it.
Me: INSTALL THING.
Ubuntu: Sorry, you don't have the right library installed.
Me: FFFFFFFFFFFF.......!!!! (install library)
Ubuntu: The library isn't here. You have to go on the internet.
Me: (piece of shit deleted)
You forgot my favorite part!
Me: Excuse me, knowledgeable Linux folks on the internet, how do I activate obscure thing?
Knowledgeable Linux folks on the internet: man obscure thing.
Me: Uh, could you be mo--
Knowledgeable Linux folks on the internet: MAN OBSCURE THING. STOP ASKING. WHY ARE YOU SO STUPID?!
Linux is awesome, but its clearly not for everyone. Even though it's not for me, I still like the fact that people install it on everything.
I think it's as admirable as trying to install human-type herpes on animals. Sure, you might be able to, but all you're doing is spreading irritation and unwanted complications.
Is there any legit reason to use Linux other than pure bloodymindedness? The whole OS just seems overly complicated and the antithesis of user friendly and for what? Less compatibility than you'd get from a Windows or Mac OS.
If theres one thing I've learned from my Linux class, its that the old quote "Linux is only free if your time is worth nothing" is true. I can understand its uses, especially in the business world, but would never use it as a consumer.
I will second that. Even using something like Ubuntu can give somebody conniptions over the insane lack of common sense involved. This is about what it's like to use Linux.
Me: I wanna use this thing.
Ubuntu: Sorry, you need to activate this obscure thing.
Me: Um, help on obscure thing.
Ubuntu: Nope.
Me: (obscure command isn't even remotely linked to the function)
Ubuntu: Hahaha!
Me: Run thing...
Ubuntu: Nope, you still have to install it.
Me: INSTALL THING.
Ubuntu: Sorry, you don't have the right library installed.
Me: FFFFFFFFFFFF.......!!!! (install library)
Ubuntu: The library isn't here. You have to go on the internet.
Me: (piece of shit deleted)
That's amazingly...wrong. For instance:
Me: I wanna install Opera. *goes to Opera's web site, downloads version for Ubuntu*
*double clicks Opera package*
Ubuntu: I need your password.
*enters password, clicks okay*
Ubuntu: Installing...OK!
*launches Opera from the Applications menu, browses interwebs*
Also:
Me: INSTALL THING.
Ubuntu: Sorry, you don't have the right library installed.
The correct response is:
Ubuntu: Sorry, you don't have that library installed. Can I install it for you? [Yes / No]
*clicks yes*
Ubuntu: *downloads and installs, then installs THING*
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Rollers are red, chargers are blue....omae wa mou shindeiru
Is there any legit reason to use Linux other than pure bloodymindedness? The whole OS just seems overly complicated and the antithesis of user friendly and for what? Less compatibility than you'd get from a Windows or Mac OS.
If theres one thing I've learned from my Linux class, its that the old quote "Linux is only free if your time is worth nothing" is true. I can understand its uses, especially in the business world, but would never use it as a consumer.
I will second that. Even using something like Ubuntu can give somebody conniptions over the insane lack of common sense involved. This is about what it's like to use Linux.
Me: I wanna use this thing.
Ubuntu: Sorry, you need to activate this obscure thing.
Me: Um, help on obscure thing.
Ubuntu: Nope.
Me: (obscure command isn't even remotely linked to the function)
Ubuntu: Hahaha!
Me: Run thing...
Ubuntu: Nope, you still have to install it.
Me: INSTALL THING.
Ubuntu: Sorry, you don't have the right library installed.
Me: FFFFFFFFFFFF.......!!!! (install library)
Ubuntu: The library isn't here. You have to go on the internet.
Me: (piece of shit deleted)
That's amazingly...wrong. For instance:
Me: I wanna install Opera. *goes to Opera's web site, downloads version for Ubuntu*
*double clicks Opera package*
Ubuntu: I need your password.
*enters password, clicks okay*
Ubuntu: Installing...OK!
*launches Opera from the Applications menu, browses interwebs*
Also:
Me: INSTALL THING.
Ubuntu: Sorry, you don't have the right library installed.
The correct response is:
Ubuntu: Sorry, you don't have that library installed. Can I install it for you? [Yes / No]
*clicks yes*
Ubuntu: *downloads and installs, then installs THING*
... close, but :
Ubuntu: Sorry, you don't have library A installed. Can I install it for you? [Yes / No]
*clicks yes*
Ubuntu: Sorry, you didn't set up your network. Can I install it for you? [Yes / No]
*clicks yes*
Sorry, but there is no driver for your network card. Can I install it for you? [Yes / No]
*clicks yes*
Sorry, but unable to connect to the internet to get driver for your network card. First please install library A.
And as a side note for the general public, this is a shotgun blast:
If you do illegal things (And you know you do. do not lie to me.), and then spit on a company who gets fucked, you should step back and reconsider your perspective. I hate Sony, but don't hate them because it's cool to do it right now. Just go about with yourself.
Wait, what? Like, any illegal things?
I got a speeding ticket a couple weeks ago, does that count?
And as a side note for the general public, this is a shotgun blast:
If you do illegal things (And you know you do. do not lie to me.), and then spit on a company who gets fucked, you should step back and reconsider your perspective. I hate Sony, but don't hate them because it's cool to do it right now. Just go about with yourself.
Wait, what? Like, any illegal things?
I got a speeding ticket a couple weeks ago, does that count?
I jaywalked that one time.
You monster. Do you have any idea how your actions impacted the lives of 77 million members of the street using public?
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And as a side note for the general public, this is a shotgun blast:
If you do illegal things (And you know you do. do not lie to me.), and then spit on a company who gets fucked, you should step back and reconsider your perspective. I hate Sony, but don't hate them because it's cool to do it right now. Just go about with yourself.
Wait, what? Like, any illegal things?
I got a speeding ticket a couple weeks ago, does that count?
I jaywalked that one time.
You monster. Do you have any idea how your actions impacted the lives of 77 million members of the street using public?
I'm sure this has been asked before but I have to leave in a minute and don't have time to browse and I just read about this and oh god
I've used a couple of different credit cards with PSN. Right now all of my cards are at zero balance, so I was thinking the safest thing to do would be to call the banks in question and cancel the lot of them, then apply for one or two new ones with different numbers. Would that be an overreaction as I suspect it might, or is that the sound thing to do?
(along with shaking my tiny fist at the unknowing and insensate sky, of course)
I'm sure this has been asked before but I have to leave in a minute and don't have time to browse and I just read about this and oh god
I've used a couple of different credit cards with PSN. Right now all of my cards are at zero balance, so I was thinking the safest thing to do would be to call the banks in question and cancel the lot of them, then apply for one or two new ones with different numbers. Would that be an overreaction as I suspect it might, or is that the sound thing to do?
(along with shaking my tiny fist at the unknowing and insensate sky, of course)
Closing lines of credit can severely impact your credit score. Just ask for new cards, don't close the lines of credit you have.
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CorriganX on Steam and just about everywhere else.
Is there any legit reason to use Linux other than pure bloodymindedness? The whole OS just seems overly complicated and the antithesis of user friendly and for what? Less compatibility than you'd get from a Windows or Mac OS.
If theres one thing I've learned from my Linux class, its that the old quote "Linux is only free if your time is worth nothing" is true. I can understand its uses, especially in the business world, but would never use it as a consumer.
I will second that. Even using something like Ubuntu can give somebody conniptions over the insane lack of common sense involved. This is about what it's like to use Linux.
Me: I wanna use this thing.
Ubuntu: Sorry, you need to activate this obscure thing.
Me: Um, help on obscure thing.
Ubuntu: Nope.
Me: (obscure command isn't even remotely linked to the function)
Ubuntu: Hahaha!
Me: Run thing...
Ubuntu: Nope, you still have to install it.
Me: INSTALL THING.
Ubuntu: Sorry, you don't have the right library installed.
Me: FFFFFFFFFFFF.......!!!! (install library)
Ubuntu: The library isn't here. You have to go on the internet.
Me: (piece of shit deleted)
That's amazingly...wrong. For instance:
Me: I wanna install Opera. *goes to Opera's web site, downloads version for Ubuntu*
*double clicks Opera package*
Ubuntu: I need your password.
*enters password, clicks okay*
Ubuntu: Installing...OK!
*launches Opera from the Applications menu, browses interwebs*
Also:
Me: INSTALL THING.
Ubuntu: Sorry, you don't have the right library installed.
The correct response is:
Ubuntu: Sorry, you don't have that library installed. Can I install it for you? [Yes / No]
*clicks yes*
Ubuntu: *downloads and installs, then installs THING*
... close, but :
Ubuntu: Sorry, you don't have library A installed. Can I install it for you? [Yes / No]
*clicks yes*
Ubuntu: Sorry, you didn't set up your network. Can I install it for you? [Yes / No]
*clicks yes*
Sorry, but there is no driver for your network card. Can I install it for you? [Yes / No]
*clicks yes*
Sorry, but unable to connect to the internet to get driver for your network card. First please install library A.
I don't think you've used Linux in a few years
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edited April 2011
So uh, is there gonna be a point during the PSN Downtime of 2011 where we stop hearing about new stupid shit on Sony's part?
As the PSN outage and data leak drag on, Bloomberg has posted a pair of articles that add to the ongoing saga. First, the news service reports that financial companies Wells Fargo, American Express, and MasterCard have seen "no unauthorized activity relating to Sony." The news comes shortly after Sony announced that all PSN credit card information had been encrypted during the time of the leak and that there was "no evidence" that any had been stolen.
The credit card companies' revelation is a rare bright spot in the crisis, which is weighing heavily on the brow of one particular Sony executive. Bloomberg also reports that Kaz Hirai, who became head of Sony's entire consumer electronics business on April 1, is under a magnifying glass to see how he handles the ongoing debacle. The scrutiny is particularly intense as Hirai has extolled a plan to use the PlayStation Network as the basis of a content store that will extend to other Sony devices, such as HDTVs and Blu-ray players.
"Almost everything Hirai has been trying to do has an element of network," Mitsubishi UFJ Morgan Stanley Securities analyst Masahiko Ishino told the news service. "Sony's strategy to connect its products through network is very crucial for the company's transformation. Sony may struggle if the business gets disrupted."
How Hirai copes with the PSN outage--which has already sparked government investigations and civil lawsuits--will likely affect his chances of succeeding current Sony Corp. CEO Sir Howard Stringer. As part of the announcement of Hirai's promotion, Stringer himself said that he was the frontrunner. "This is an opportunity for the board to watch Hirai-san and judge his performance," said Stringer.
Unfortunately for Sony, the market is already weighing in on the PSN outage. Today, Sony shares fell 4.5 percent to 2,260 ($27.71) on the Tokyo Stock Exchange. It was the largest decline for the company since the tragic earthquake and tsunami hit Japan in mid-March.
So do you need the 3 digit security code to make a purchase on itunes? I just noticed the $1 ping on my card balance. Did Sony lie about not having that compromised or is it actually possible to try through all 999 security code options on itunes.
#3: The hacker attitude is annoying because it's all about justifying sticking your nose in someone else's business. Program a f'ing game; customize your own Linux box to your heart's content; take up woodworking. But don't go fucking around other people's computers and systems and then act highminded about it. That's just creepy.
Despite Mr. Hotz's fervent hope to the contrary, the Linux/OtherOS/custom firmware/signing keys mess had precisely fuck-all to do with this hack.
1) If all it took was a reflash to dev firmware (ReDev) in order to access 70 million users' credit card numbers, then Sony's engineers are probably not capable of wiping their own asses without assistance. I refuse to believe that everyone over there is that incompetent.
2) If all it took was dev firmware, thousands of people have legitimate dev boxes and any one of those people could have accessed all your credit card information by design. Again, there's no way Sony designed a network like this: they need to at least pretend to meet PCI standards, and some disgruntled shovelware programmer would have done this long before now if it were that easy.
What happened here was a normal hack on a business, like the TJMaxx hack: somebody saw a monetary opportunity, found a hole, and took it. Same as a dude robbing a bank. Don't confuse this attitude with people like Hotz wanting to play around with their own PS3s in ways Sony didn't anticipate: they are completely unrelated.
Because of Sony's talk of relocating their data center, people have speculated that this was more of a physical breach of security. Not sure if it's true in any way, but I do think its plausible.
The Anonymous fiasco may have just been a diversion that created an opportunity.
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edited April 2011
I still say the physical relocation has more to do with separating services. I doubt there was breaking and entering, and an actual physical breach involved. Still more likely that someone from a low level unwittingly compromised an important machine. Then again, I do admit my suspicion could be wrong.
Also, regarding the three-digit CCV code. The database that Sony stores it's CC info in probably wouldn't contain that at all. But again we come back to the HTTP log issue and the GET command. If (BIG IF) this is true, then the string passed would contain the CCV info.
The rumored GET command (transmitted with SSL encryption, but necessarily decoded server side) is supposedly:
Now, if the PSN in fact did NOT ever request the CCV number EVER... Then we can call this entire thing bullshit. Otherwise, it's a possible way that someone could have pinched all the information, including CCV number, without ever touching the encrypted databases.
#3: The hacker attitude is annoying because it's all about justifying sticking your nose in someone else's business. Program a f'ing game; customize your own Linux box to your heart's content; take up woodworking. But don't go fucking around other people's computers and systems and then act highminded about it. That's just creepy.
Despite Mr. Hotz's fervent hope to the contrary, the Linux/OtherOS/custom firmware/signing keys mess had precisely fuck-all to do with this hack.
1) If all it took was a reflash to dev firmware (ReDev) in order to access 70 million users' credit card numbers, then Sony's engineers are probably not capable of wiping their own asses without assistance. I refuse to believe that everyone over there is that incompetent.
2) If all it took was dev firmware, thousands of people have legitimate dev boxes and any one of those people could have accessed all your credit card information by design. Again, there's no way Sony designed a network like this: they need to at least pretend to meet PCI standards, and some disgruntled shovelware programmer would have done this long before now if it were that easy.
What happened here was a normal hack on a business, like the TJMaxx hack: somebody saw a monetary opportunity, found a hole, and took it. Same as a dude robbing a bank. Don't confuse this attitude with people like Hotz wanting to play around with their own PS3s in ways Sony didn't anticipate: they are completely unrelated.
Because of Sony's talk of relocating their data center, people have speculated that this was more of a physical breach of security. Not sure if it's true in any way, but I do think its plausible.
The Anonymous fiasco may have just been a diversion that created an opportunity.
I can guarantee that the Anonymous fiasco has literally nothing to do with this.
So do you need the 3 digit security code to make a purchase on itunes? I just noticed the $1 ping on my card balance. Did Sony lie about not having that compromised or is it actually possible to try through all 999 security code options on itunes.
how many of these do we need to have before folks agree that maybe, possibly card info was compromised
So do you need the 3 digit security code to make a purchase on itunes? I just noticed the $1 ping on my card balance. Did Sony lie about not having that compromised or is it actually possible to try through all 999 security code options on itunes.
how many of these do we need to have before folks agree that maybe, possibly card info was compromised
You mean the security code information for each card that Sony explicitly said wasn't taken?
So do you need the 3 digit security code to make a purchase on itunes? I just noticed the $1 ping on my card balance. Did Sony lie about not having that compromised or is it actually possible to try through all 999 security code options on itunes.
how many of these do we need to have before folks agree that maybe, possibly card info was compromised
You mean the security code information for each card that Sony explicitly said wasn't taken?
glad to see you're maintaining your trust in a reliable, forthcoming corporation
So do you need the 3 digit security code to make a purchase on itunes? I just noticed the $1 ping on my card balance. Did Sony lie about not having that compromised or is it actually possible to try through all 999 security code options on itunes.
how many of these do we need to have before folks agree that maybe, possibly card info was compromised
Eh if it was just sony i'd be more skeptical, but since mastercard AND american express have said they haven't seen anything fraudulent related to the sony leak yet at this point i'm more inclined to think it's people going over their credit statements in much more detail then they usually do and noticing temporary authorization checks/small recurring charges that have always been there but they've never noticed
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The email is the same for everyone depending on region, and contains the same information that is on the site.
Depends on the country. Like you can't become a citizen of North Korea without losing your American citizenship.
I got a speeding ticket a couple weeks ago, does that count?
Despite Mr. Hotz's fervent hope to the contrary, the Linux/OtherOS/custom firmware/signing keys mess had precisely fuck-all to do with this hack.
1) If all it took was a reflash to dev firmware (ReDev) in order to access 70 million users' credit card numbers, then Sony's engineers are probably not capable of wiping their own asses without assistance. I refuse to believe that everyone over there is that incompetent.
2) If all it took was dev firmware, thousands of people have legitimate dev boxes and any one of those people could have accessed all your credit card information by design. Again, there's no way Sony designed a network like this: they need to at least pretend to meet PCI standards, and some disgruntled shovelware programmer would have done this long before now if it were that easy.
What happened here was a normal hack on a business, like the TJMaxx hack: somebody saw a monetary opportunity, found a hole, and took it. Same as a dude robbing a bank. Don't confuse this attitude with people like Hotz wanting to play around with their own PS3s in ways Sony didn't anticipate: they are completely unrelated.
I don't think you can become a citizen of DPRK at all. Unless of course you were born there. Dual Citizenship varies wildly between countries. I know a lot of Dual Canadians/USA Americans and plenty of Can/UK as well.
Just got my e-mail from Sony.
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Fuck you, Sony.
Don't bring this kind of shit into the thread please.
Those damn terrorists are gonna 'splode all our truck tubes!
Fearmongering aside, I have a mild concern over the release of my personal information where someone might use it to attempt to open new accounts, but see that as unlikely. I have absolutely zero concern for my credit card information as I always keep close enough tabs on my finances to spot sketchy spending regardless. Fraudulent charges on a CC are probably the easiest financial issue to deal with, and I'll be keeping the same CC to use with PSN when it comes back up. Sony screwed the pooch, but I rather enjoy the PS3's services and so far no harm no foul.
If terrorists managed to take down the Internet for a week (never mind that that's impossible, bear with me here) I will bet you that the average productivity of this country would go up. And that's after averaging in zeroes for everyone that works in an internet-related capacity.
Create a PlayStation Network account on your PC
Step 14 asks for a CVV.
Don't assume bad intentions over neglect and misunderstanding.
I think the US just flat out doesn't recognize dual-citizenship. If you're a US citizen, thats the end of it.
As someone who has had internet access banned at work because of someone being a silly goose, I can vouch that this is accurate. Oh, and I made an elastic band ball. But mostly bitched about not being able to use the internet.
I will second that. Even using something like Ubuntu can give somebody conniptions over the insane lack of common sense involved. This is about what it's like to use Linux.
Ubuntu: Sorry, you need to activate this obscure thing.
Me: Um, help on obscure thing.
Ubuntu: Nope.
Me: (obscure command isn't even remotely linked to the function)
Ubuntu: Hahaha!
Me: Run thing...
Ubuntu: Nope, you still have to install it.
Me: INSTALL THING.
Ubuntu: Sorry, you don't have the right library installed.
Me: FFFFFFFFFFFF.......!!!! (install library)
Ubuntu: The library isn't here. You have to go on the internet.
Me: (piece of shit deleted)
You forgot my favorite part!
Me: Excuse me, knowledgeable Linux folks on the internet, how do I activate obscure thing?
Knowledgeable Linux folks on the internet: man obscure thing.
Me: Uh, could you be mo--
Knowledgeable Linux folks on the internet: MAN OBSCURE THING. STOP ASKING. WHY ARE YOU SO STUPID?!
Linux is awesome, but its clearly not for everyone. Even though it's not for me, I still like the fact that people install it on everything.
I think it's as admirable as trying to install human-type herpes on animals. Sure, you might be able to, but all you're doing is spreading irritation and unwanted complications.
Me: I wanna install Opera. *goes to Opera's web site, downloads version for Ubuntu*
*double clicks Opera package*
Ubuntu: I need your password.
*enters password, clicks okay*
Ubuntu: Installing...OK!
*launches Opera from the Applications menu, browses interwebs*
Also:
The correct response is:
Ubuntu: Sorry, you don't have that library installed. Can I install it for you? [Yes / No]
*clicks yes*
Ubuntu: *downloads and installs, then installs THING*
... close, but :
Ubuntu: Sorry, you don't have library A installed. Can I install it for you? [Yes / No]
*clicks yes*
Ubuntu: Sorry, you didn't set up your network. Can I install it for you? [Yes / No]
*clicks yes*
Sorry, but there is no driver for your network card. Can I install it for you? [Yes / No]
*clicks yes*
Sorry, but unable to connect to the internet to get driver for your network card. First please install library A.
I jaywalked that one time.
You monster. Do you have any idea how your actions impacted the lives of 77 million members of the street using public?
Should we call for backup?
I've used a couple of different credit cards with PSN. Right now all of my cards are at zero balance, so I was thinking the safest thing to do would be to call the banks in question and cancel the lot of them, then apply for one or two new ones with different numbers. Would that be an overreaction as I suspect it might, or is that the sound thing to do?
(along with shaking my tiny fist at the unknowing and insensate sky, of course)
Closing lines of credit can severely impact your credit score. Just ask for new cards, don't close the lines of credit you have.
CorriganX on Steam and just about everywhere else.
I don't think you've used Linux in a few years
seriously now. wtf.
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FF14: ARR
Because of Sony's talk of relocating their data center, people have speculated that this was more of a physical breach of security. Not sure if it's true in any way, but I do think its plausible.
The Anonymous fiasco may have just been a diversion that created an opportunity.
Also, regarding the three-digit CCV code. The database that Sony stores it's CC info in probably wouldn't contain that at all. But again we come back to the HTTP log issue and the GET command. If (BIG IF) this is true, then the string passed would contain the CCV info.
The rumored GET command (transmitted with SSL encryption, but necessarily decoded server side) is supposedly:
Now, if the PSN in fact did NOT ever request the CCV number EVER... Then we can call this entire thing bullshit. Otherwise, it's a possible way that someone could have pinched all the information, including CCV number, without ever touching the encrypted databases.
I can guarantee that the Anonymous fiasco has literally nothing to do with this.
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You mean the security code information for each card that Sony explicitly said wasn't taken?
FF14: ARR
steam | xbox live: IGNORANT HARLOT | psn: MadRoll | nintendo network: spinach
3ds: 1504-5717-8252
Eh if it was just sony i'd be more skeptical, but since mastercard AND american express have said they haven't seen anything fraudulent related to the sony leak yet at this point i'm more inclined to think it's people going over their credit statements in much more detail then they usually do and noticing temporary authorization checks/small recurring charges that have always been there but they've never noticed