He became pretty humble towards the end of AC1. He learned a lot not just from the men he killed but also from his fellow Assassins.
To an extent I agree, but he was still pretty mesesd up. His despair and nihilism is pretty clear in the Codex entries, his mind being slowly eaten away by the Apple he recovered. For all his talk of shedding the 'false' lies of the world (orders, religion, rules) he comes up with no answers himself.
In one entry he ponders how women are treated in society and then notes to himself how hard he has to try to not think about murdering those responsible.
Where as Ezio just beats up jerks and sends them back to their wives humilated.
But Altiar did come to the realization that the way al Mualim was running things wasn't the assassin way. He decided to let women in, do away with removing a finger, and generally founded the true order of assassins that ezio now leads.
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So do people play AssBro multiplayer around these parts? Because I think I may be in love with it. Its making actually finishing the game very difficult.
So do people play AssBro multiplayer around these parts? Because I think I may be in love with it. Its making actually finishing the game very difficult.
I just finished for the night. Add me, ill play almost anytime. Gamertag in sig.
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So do people play AssBro multiplayer around these parts? Because I think I may be in love with it. Its making actually finishing the game very difficult.
Actually, I skipped out on most of AssBro's multiplayer, but I think I'd like to practice up before Revelations comes out. Is there a PA group for AB?
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You're right. Ubisoft has done an amazing job with their attention to detail.
I wish it was November now...
Edit: I wonder if there are any living descendants of The Borgias playing these games. (Probably not)
I'd be all wtf...
Can't remember where I read it but Brooke Shields is supposedly decensded from Lucrezia.
And yeah, I've done the same thing going back and forth between the AC wiki and Wikipedia on these characters. Mind blowing.
Yeah, it's great seeing these eras of history come alive. Seems like most folks couldn't care less beyond WWII when it comes to history games.
I think I've mentioned it before, but a King of Jerusalem (A Crusader no less) and the Assassins were actually allies at one point, which was put into jeopardy by, wait for it, an unauthorized ambush by a group of Templars.
Where do I go to start the da Vinci DLC? I don't see a marker on my map anywhere, but it also took me forever to find a Borgia flag icon that was in plain sight.
the symbol you're looking for is a caduceus. And it is flagged as a special memory.
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But Altiar did come to the realization that the way al Mualim was running things wasn't the assassin way. He decided to let women in, do away with removing a finger, and generally founded the true order of assassins that ezio now leads.
I was blown away when I learned about the finger thing from the codex. You can see the gaping space Altair has on his left hand in the revelations trailer.
AC2? Completely on top of the world, then it's yanked out from under him and the Assassin order ends up taking over his life.
It is a good life we lead, brother.
The best! May it never change.
And may it never change us.
As soon as those words were uttered at the beginning of AC2, I knew it would be downhill for the poor sap from there on out. Also fit perfectly for one of the best opening credits I've seen in a while.
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Holy Shit, Princess Diana was a descendant of Catarina Sforza!
I like Ezio's story a lot so much because it's basically a tragedy.
AC2? Completely on top of the world, then it's yanked out from under him and the Assassin order ends up taking over his life.
If Revelation's doesn't end with him dying I'll be a little bit disappointed (unless it's just a completely crazy ending).
It's impossible for the game to end like that, the way things have been set up. You will not see Ezio's death.
As someone on here pointed out, once Ezio knocks someone up, you can kind of view that woman's experiences. AC2 showed us that.
So the mother could be present at his death, and we could see it.
Or actually, in what would be the most gut wrenching thing of all time, maybe Ezio gets someone pregnant, then you skip a bit in the animus, and much like we got to control Ezio moments after he was born, maybe the mother will take you, the newborn, to see your father as he's dying.
Or hell maybe you'll get to play as Ezio's son, at like age 10-13, when he passes.
We will no longer be controlling him when he dies, but there's no way we won't see it.
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As someone on here pointed out, once Ezio knocks someone up, you can kind of view that woman's experiences. AC2 showed us that.
So the mother could be present at his death, and we could see it.
Or actually, in what would be the most gut wrenching thing of all time, maybe Ezio gets someone pregnant, then you skip a bit in the animus, and much like we got to control Ezio moments after he was born, maybe the mother will take you, the newborn, to see your father as he's dying.
Or hell maybe you'll get to play as Ezio's son, at like age 10-13, when he passes.
We will no longer be controlling him when he dies, but there's no way we won't see it.
No, he should only be able to view that womens experiences up until she gets knocked up. She'd be just as much his ancestor as Ezio, so it shouldn't be any different from him experiencing Altair or Ezio's memories. When she gets knocked up though, as you saw in AC2, he actually starts experiencing the infants memories... Which doesn't make a lick of sense really but whatever. Would be creepy as all hell.
Playing as Ezio's son watching his father die would be a pretty good way for Ezio's story to end. I mean, he does kind of deserve some peace, even if he may not find it.
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edited June 2011
I've been playing through AssCreedBro lately. I put it down shortly after release because I was stuck on some level or another. Came back and beat it first try, as seems to usually be the case for me in these situations. I don't know why I ever put it down. A few days ago I got to start recruiting assassins, and I've been playing pretty much non-stop ever since. I've got all possible recruits, and one of them has been inducted. The amount of murder you can bring on people, not even including calling for backup, is just awesome. I hearts this game, and I wish it wouldn't end.
Guess I will just have to lust for Revelations once I'm done with this one.
Basically now it's a seperate story in itself. You work at Abstergo, and you are training (just like AC:B), only now, every few levels Abstergo actually contacts you, and rewards you with promotions. Promotions mean access to more intel, more story about the modern day, cutscenes about whats going on at Abstergo...
That sounds AMAZING.
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Two major game changers were up next, with Meunier first explaining a new concept for AC multiplayer in "contested kills." In so many words, rather than being stabbed by someone clearly running at you full speed, should you spot them in time and press the punch button, a "contested kill" will result in both players being stunned. Take that, game breaking perma-runners!
In the same vein, assassination animation times have been changed dramatically. In Brotherhood, all kills cost the same amount of time -- everything from an obvious running murder to a stealth assassination. In Revelations, however, stealth is rewarded with shorter animations, incentivizing players further toward clandestine kills rather than open deathmatch.
The contested kill stuff sounds like it could be good or bad, but stealthier kill = faster kill? AWESOME
Two major game changers were up next, with Meunier first explaining a new concept for AC multiplayer in "contested kills." In so many words, rather than being stabbed by someone clearly running at you full speed, should you spot them in time and press the punch button, a "contested kill" will result in both players being stunned. Take that, game breaking perma-runners!
In the same vein, assassination animation times have been changed dramatically. In Brotherhood, all kills cost the same amount of time -- everything from an obvious running murder to a stealth assassination. In Revelations, however, stealth is rewarded with shorter animations, incentivizing players further toward clandestine kills rather than open deathmatch.
The contested kill stuff sounds like it could be good or bad, but stealthier kill = faster kill? AWESOME
Im glad theyre at least trying to address consistant runners. It really does ruin the game. Yesterday I kept getting a target who was CONSTANTLY running. It was near impossible to get an incognito on him, and almost every time Id try to cut him off somewhere I would end up getting into a chase and getting shitty points for it.
I did however learn yesterday all about CHARGE.
Mainly, noticing that it can give you an almost automatic stun on an attacker. I notice someone running at me, i pretend not to see them, and when they're almost there I turn, charge and earn a cool 200 points.
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I loved ACB's multiplayer when it first came out, but I booted it up yesterday and everyone's way too good for a schmuck like me to enjoy it. In particular, everyone seems to have figured out that stopping a pursuer is just a smoke bomb away...
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I just started the other day and while I think I'm pretty good (most games seem to end with me in the top 3 or 4), it seems like after a certain point I get so many pursuers on me that I can't concentrate on getting kills.
I like Ezio's story a lot so much because it's basically a tragedy.
AC2? Completely on top of the world, then it's yanked out from under him and the Assassin order ends up taking over his life.
If Revelation's doesn't end with him dying I'll be a little bit disappointed (unless it's just a completely crazy ending).
It's impossible for the game to end like that, the way things have been set up. You will not see Ezio's death.
As someone on here pointed out, once Ezio knocks someone up, you can kind of view that woman's experiences. AC2 showed us that.
So the mother could be present at his death, and we could see it.
Or actually, in what would be the most gut wrenching thing of all time, maybe Ezio gets someone pregnant, then you skip a bit in the animus, and much like we got to control Ezio moments after he was born, maybe the mother will take you, the newborn, to see your father as he's dying.
Or hell maybe you'll get to play as Ezio's son, at like age 10-13, when he passes.
We will no longer be controlling him when he dies, but there's no way we won't see it.
Or maybe the pregnant mother will be the killer! There are a lot of ways to go with this. Trying to figure out how Ezio will die is an odd sort of excitement.
I just started the other day and while I think I'm pretty good (most games seem to end with me in the top 3 or 4), it seems like after a certain point I get so many pursuers on me that I can't concentrate on getting kills.
Once you get two or three pursuers on you, its best to not concentrate on getting kills. Just find a good spot to blend and observe people who approach. Its good to pick a crowd in a corner or an alleyway so that you enemies have limited approach angles for you to keep an eye on. If you've got morph or blender in your build (I usually go with blender), enemies will pretty much have to use a perk and give themselves away, giving you an easy stun opportunity.
But its not all about stuns. Letting your enemies come to you generally makes their pursuers come to you as well. If you've got two or three pursuers, chances are one of their pursuers is your target. So hanging back and waiting will generally bring your quarry to you. Sometimes a good defense is the best offense.
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I like Ezio's story a lot so much because it's basically a tragedy.
AC2? Completely on top of the world, then it's yanked out from under him and the Assassin order ends up taking over his life.
If Revelation's doesn't end with him dying I'll be a little bit disappointed (unless it's just a completely crazy ending).
It's impossible for the game to end like that, the way things have been set up. You will not see Ezio's death.
As someone on here pointed out, once Ezio knocks someone up, you can kind of view that woman's experiences. AC2 showed us that.
So the mother could be present at his death, and we could see it.
Or actually, in what would be the most gut wrenching thing of all time, maybe Ezio gets someone pregnant, then you skip a bit in the animus, and much like we got to control Ezio moments after he was born, maybe the mother will take you, the newborn, to see your father as he's dying.
Or hell maybe you'll get to play as Ezio's son, at like age 10-13, when he passes.
We will no longer be controlling him when he dies, but there's no way we won't see it.
Or maybe the pregnant mother will be the killer! There are a lot of ways to go with this. Trying to figure out how Ezio will die is an odd sort of excitement.
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I liked his story for like, the first act of AC2. Then after that I was just killing lots of people because they were bad.
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To an extent I agree, but he was still pretty mesesd up. His despair and nihilism is pretty clear in the Codex entries, his mind being slowly eaten away by the Apple he recovered. For all his talk of shedding the 'false' lies of the world (orders, religion, rules) he comes up with no answers himself.
In one entry he ponders how women are treated in society and then notes to himself how hard he has to try to not think about murdering those responsible.
Where as Ezio just beats up jerks and sends them back to their wives humilated.
See the difference?
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I just finished for the night. Add me, ill play almost anytime. Gamertag in sig.
Actually, I skipped out on most of AssBro's multiplayer, but I think I'd like to practice up before Revelations comes out. Is there a PA group for AB?
Can't remember where I read it but Brooke Shields is supposedly decensded from Lucrezia.
And yeah, I've done the same thing going back and forth between the AC wiki and Wikipedia on these characters. Mind blowing.
I think I've mentioned it before, but a King of Jerusalem (A Crusader no less) and the Assassins were actually allies at one point, which was put into jeopardy by, wait for it, an unauthorized ambush by a group of Templars.
We need to get Brooke in an Animus.
the symbol you're looking for is a caduceus. And it is flagged as a special memory.
I was blown away when I learned about the finger thing from the codex. You can see the gaping space Altair has on his left hand in the revelations trailer.
AC2? Completely on top of the world, then it's yanked out from under him and the Assassin order ends up taking over his life.
If Revelation's doesn't end with him dying I'll be a little bit disappointed (unless it's just a completely crazy ending).
AC2: "DESMOND"?!
ACB: Why can't I control my everything?
It is a good life we lead, brother.
The best! May it never change.
And may it never change us.
As soon as those words were uttered at the beginning of AC2, I knew it would be downhill for the poor sap from there on out. Also fit perfectly for one of the best opening credits I've seen in a while.
She....she was killed by Templars
Goog god, I certainly hope not...
I really want to see a side by side with the shot from the Revelations trailer when they pull the hood off.
It's impossible for the game to end like that, the way things have been set up. You will not see Ezio's death.
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Don't read too much into these apparently amazing facts.
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It's fairly likely that you are a descendant of Sforza also.
As someone on here pointed out, once Ezio knocks someone up, you can kind of view that woman's experiences. AC2 showed us that.
So the mother could be present at his death, and we could see it.
Or actually, in what would be the most gut wrenching thing of all time, maybe Ezio gets someone pregnant, then you skip a bit in the animus, and much like we got to control Ezio moments after he was born, maybe the mother will take you, the newborn, to see your father as he's dying.
Or hell maybe you'll get to play as Ezio's son, at like age 10-13, when he passes.
We will no longer be controlling him when he dies, but there's no way we won't see it.
No, he should only be able to view that womens experiences up until she gets knocked up. She'd be just as much his ancestor as Ezio, so it shouldn't be any different from him experiencing Altair or Ezio's memories. When she gets knocked up though, as you saw in AC2, he actually starts experiencing the infants memories... Which doesn't make a lick of sense really but whatever. Would be creepy as all hell.
Guess I will just have to lust for Revelations once I'm done with this one.
Basically now it's a seperate story in itself. You work at Abstergo, and you are training (just like AC:B), only now, every few levels Abstergo actually contacts you, and rewards you with promotions. Promotions mean access to more intel, more story about the modern day, cutscenes about whats going on at Abstergo...
That sounds AMAZING.
The contested kill stuff sounds like it could be good or bad, but stealthier kill = faster kill? AWESOME
Im glad theyre at least trying to address consistant runners. It really does ruin the game. Yesterday I kept getting a target who was CONSTANTLY running. It was near impossible to get an incognito on him, and almost every time Id try to cut him off somewhere I would end up getting into a chase and getting shitty points for it.
I did however learn yesterday all about CHARGE.
Mainly, noticing that it can give you an almost automatic stun on an attacker. I notice someone running at me, i pretend not to see them, and when they're almost there I turn, charge and earn a cool 200 points.
Maybe if I get in on the ground floor and play AssRev with PA bros, I'll enjoy it more.
Or maybe the pregnant mother will be the killer! There are a lot of ways to go with this. Trying to figure out how Ezio will die is an odd sort of excitement.
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Once you get two or three pursuers on you, its best to not concentrate on getting kills. Just find a good spot to blend and observe people who approach. Its good to pick a crowd in a corner or an alleyway so that you enemies have limited approach angles for you to keep an eye on. If you've got morph or blender in your build (I usually go with blender), enemies will pretty much have to use a perk and give themselves away, giving you an easy stun opportunity.
But its not all about stuns. Letting your enemies come to you generally makes their pursuers come to you as well. If you've got two or three pursuers, chances are one of their pursuers is your target. So hanging back and waiting will generally bring your quarry to you. Sometimes a good defense is the best offense.
Maybe he'll die while fathering his child.