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DMCA, Heroes on NBC and me

solsovlysolsovly Registered User regular
edited February 2007 in Help / Advice Forum
So I missed two recent episodes of Heroes and decided to use Bittorrent to download them. I had a complete share ratio of 1.5. NBC sent this letter to my ISP which in turn contacted me. I'm pretty irrirtated as I pride myself in pretty much supporting and buying things I like. Though this is within their right, it feels like a slap in the face to me.
This is a pretty big downer for me as I felt like I've gone legit since college 3 years ago (games, software, dvds, movies, music) now that I have a proper job. I could see if this was available on DVD but it was just recently aired.

Anyways, the torrent was already deleted, I havn't even watched the file. Is there anything else I should be aware of now? TV shows I miss and anime are the only things I torrent. I feel like this is a scare tactic and well, it works cause I won't be torrenting Heroes or any TV shows anymore.

My question is, what now? Just stop torrenting TV and dig out the VCR?

Email edited out IP and links below. Thanks guys.
NBC wrote:
Dear Customer,


We are writing on behalf of Cox Communications to advise you that we have received a notification that you are using your Cox High Speed Internet service to post or transmit material that infringes the copyrights of a complainant's members. We have included a copy of the complaint letter. Pursuant to the provisions of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act ("DMCA"), which is codified at 17 U.S.C. § 512, upon receiving such notification, Cox is required to "act expeditiously to remove, or disable access to" the infringing material in order to avoid liability for any alleged copyright infringement. Accordingly, Cox will suspend your account and disable your connection to the Internet within 24 hours of your receipt of this email if the offending material is not removed.


Please be aware that the DMCA also provides procedures by which a subscriber accused of copyright violation can respond to the allegations of infringement and, under certain circumstances, cause his or her account to be reinstated. To do so, however, the response must meet certain criteria. Pursuant to section (g) of the DMCA (17 U.S.C. § 512(g)), you have the right to submit to Cox a counter-notification which, to be effective, must include the following elements:


(a) a physical or electronic signature of the subscriber;
(b) identification of the material that has been removed or to which access has been disabled and the location at which the material appeared before it was removed or disabled;
(c) a statement under penalty of perjury that the subscriber has a good faith belief that the material was removed or disabled as a result of mistake or misidentification of the material to be removed or disabled;
(d) the subscriber’s name, address, and telephone number and a statement that the subscriber consents to the jurisdiction of the Federal District Court for the judicial district in which the address is located.


In the event that you submit to Cox a counter-notification that includes these elements, Cox will forward your counter notification to the complainant and advise them that Cox will cease disabling access to the allegedly infringing material in ten (10) business days. Unless the complainant notifies us that it has filed an action seeking a court order to restrain you from engaging in the allegedly infringing activity prior to the expiration of those ten (10) business days, Cox will reactivate your account.


For answers to frequently asked questions, please follow the link below:

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Sincerely,


Cox Customer Security

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  • TyrantCowTyrantCow Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    My co-worker got the same e-mail about Heroes, small world.

    I believe NBC offers a few of their programs (in flash) on their website.

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  • RantRant Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Pretty much all the Heroes episode are up on Youtube or Dailymotion. It's streamed, so you don't "share" anything.

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    You can also pay the freaking dollar and download it off iTunes.

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  • YarYar Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    The episodes are available for free on their Web site.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Sentry wrote:
    You can also pay the freaking dollar and download it off iTunes.
    Only if you want to use iTunes, which is a total piece of shit.

    In any case, I doubt they'll pursue anything. I'd just delete the torrent, and move on. If you're really paranoid, shell out for half an hour with a lawyer.

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  • MeizMeiz Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Yar wrote:
    The episodes are available for free on their Web site.

    That's news to me.

    What's the quality like?

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  • supabeastsupabeast Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Just be glad you pissed off NBC television and not the RIAA :)

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  • TyrantCowTyrantCow Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Meiz wrote:
    Yar wrote:
    The episodes are available for free on their Web site.

    That's news to me.

    What's the quality like?

    Flash

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  • RuckusRuckus Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Due to the fact that Heroes is available on iTunes, pursuing and bitchslapping people who download it for free from Bittorrent is likely a contractual obligation for NBC.

    The free versions on their site and youtube don't really concern them because they're poor quality and there's no easy way to make offline version of them.

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  • Dr. FrenchensteinDr. Frenchenstein Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Ruckus wrote:
    Due to the fact that Heroes is available on iTunes, pursuing and bitchslapping people who download it for free from Bittorrent is likely a contractual obligation for NBC.

    The free versions on their site and youtube don't really concern them because they're poor quality and there's no easy way to make offline version of them.

    I saw a very good version on youtube, but it was quickly removed. And the version on the NBC site is godawful. I couldn't even tell what was going on. I wouldn't worry though, i can't imagine the fine for downloading one show...

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  • Shazkar ShadowstormShazkar Shadowstorm Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Actually, the NBC site used to have crappy quality until like last week when they made it nice and better, it works fine now. Check it out.

    Also, I got a similar thing about BSG from NBC. Except I was at college. Oh well. Nothing bad happened. No more for me though.

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  • Shazkar ShadowstormShazkar Shadowstorm Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    mcdermott wrote:
    Actually, the NBC site used to have crappy quality until like last week when they made it nice and better, it works fine now. Check it out.

    Also, I got a similar thing about BSG from NBC. Except I was at college. Oh well. Nothing bad happened. No more for me though.

    I've yet to get a nastygram, but I've already started weaning myself off the BT for TV shows. Pretty much anything that's offered by the network's website I go with now. Which is most shows I watch. The ability to zoom them to fullscreen and output them to TV is pretty nice.

    Yeah, definitely. I'm really glad NBC upgraded their web TV stuff, it was total ass before. Yay new internet things!

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  • ffordefforde Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    mcdermott wrote:
    The ability to zoom them to fullscreen and output them to TV is pretty nice.

    Thats a deal breaker for me. I have a compuiter hooked to my big HDTV. If I cant switch it to full screen I am not gonna waste my time. That's awesome NBC has that set up now though.

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  • Vincent GraysonVincent Grayson Frederick, MDRegistered User regular
    edited February 2007
    fforde wrote:
    mcdermott wrote:
    The ability to zoom them to fullscreen and output them to TV is pretty nice.

    Thats a deal breaker for me. I have a compuiter hooked to my big HDTV. If I cant switch it to full screen I am not gonna waste my time. That's awesome NBC has that set up now though.

    I'd imagine that even at a "good" quality on the web, streamed, free stuff from their website is bound to look like shit on an HDTV.

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  • ffordefforde Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    mcdermott wrote:
    fforde wrote:
    mcdermott wrote:
    The ability to zoom them to fullscreen and output them to TV is pretty nice.

    Thats a deal breaker for me. I have a compuiter hooked to my big HDTV. If I cant switch it to full screen I am not gonna waste my time. That's awesome NBC has that set up now though.

    Actually, NBC doesn't. I don't think any web-based ones do, because by definition they'll almost always be playing in some sort of flash or java player inside a window.

    I just use the Universal Access features of OSX to zoom in on the screen so that it takes up the entire width (since I'm on a 4:3 TV...you could do the same to achieve fullscreen on a 16:9 TV, but your mouse pointer is going to have to be somewhere on-screen methinks).

    Works decently enough since it's free.

    And yeah, what Vincent Grayson said...it'll probably look like dogshit on an HDTV set. I mean, it's only acceptable to me in SD because it's free.

    I just tried and it does goto full screen for NBC.

    As far as the picture quality, you guys are right it would probably look pretty lousy stretched to 42". But full screen is a step in the right direction.

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  • YarYar Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    All I'm saying is that NBC is really trying to meet you halfway on this. When you screw up and miss the free show on TV, they offer it free online anytime and with many fewer commercials. So I support them in buggering you for downloading it illegally.

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  • RaereRaere Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Yeah, NBC's the biggest offender at the moment in terms of sniffing people out. They pretty much watch all of their series' torrents, and notify the ISP's of everyone connected. I got an e-mail for downloading an ep of Friday Night Lights. So, don't download anything that airs on NBC, because they will find you.

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  • ffordefforde Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Raere wrote:
    Yeah, NBC's the biggest offender at the moment in terms of sniffing people out. They pretty much watch all of their series' torrents, and notify the ISP's of everyone connected. I got an e-mail for downloading an ep of Friday Night Lights. So, don't download anything that airs on NBC, because they will find you.
    I'm actually not sure my ISP has any contact info on me besides my address... I wonder how many emails have built up in my ISP provided mailbox. ><

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  • solsovlysolsovly Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Yar wrote:
    All I'm saying is that NBC is really trying to meet you halfway on this. When you screw up and miss the free show on TV, they offer it free online anytime and with many fewer commercials. So I support them in buggering you for downloading it illegally.

    Thanks, but not exactly the help or advice I was looking for. I didn't realize NBC offered the show online so I will look into that.

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  • ffordefforde Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Do you already pay for a cable or satellite service? If so a DVR box is usually only something like $8 extra a month. So long as you dont have several shows you want to watch at the same time, you can schedule shows to record via that.

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  • solsovlysolsovly Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    fforde wrote:
    Do you already pay for a cable or satellite service? If so a DVR box is usually only something like $8 extra a month. So long as you dont have several shows you want to watch at the same time, you can schedule shows to record via that.

    Yeah, I already pay for cable. I think I'll end up picking one up. Thanks H/T, the letter scared me a bit more than it should have.

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