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Document the Atrocities! The American Political Media

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  • CorehealerCorehealer The Apothecary The softer edge of the universe.Registered User regular

    This can only end well.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Why am I not surprised that fox calls them a civil rights group?

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  • Mild ConfusionMild Confusion Smash All Things Registered User regular
    What does it say? I'm getting a bad URL when I click on it.

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  • CorehealerCorehealer The Apothecary The softer edge of the universe.Registered User regular
    What does it say? I'm getting a bad URL when I click on it.
    Florida members of the Detroit-based National Socialist Movement tells FOX35 they are patrolling the streets of Sanford.
    The white rights organization says several Sanford citizens have called on them fearing their safety.
    The group's commander talked with FOX35 Saturday about their presence in the now racially divided Florida town where Trayvon Martin was shot and killed by George Zimmerman.

    Read more: http://www2.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/trayvon_martin/040712-White-rights-group-patrolling-Sanford#ixzz1rUdw0MKd

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  • ZythonZython Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    What does it say? I'm getting a bad URL when I click on it.

    Yeah, it looks like they scrubbed the "civil rights" angle from it. How unexpected.

    Edit: Here's the cached webpage.

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  • Mild ConfusionMild Confusion Smash All Things Registered User regular
    Jesus Christ... This is going to escalate.

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  • Gandalf_the_CrazedGandalf_the_Crazed Vigilo ConfidoRegistered User regular
    How are these "upstanding citizens" dressing on their patrols?

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  • HacksawHacksaw J. Duggan Wrestler at LawRegistered User regular
    Fucking Nazis. They ruin everything.

  • Lord PalingtonLord Palington Registered User regular
    Most are dressing in all black military-like outfits. I love in the video when it cuts back to the reporter early, and the look of, I don't know, distaste? that she has before she continues with the written story is wonderful.

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  • Mild ConfusionMild Confusion Smash All Things Registered User regular
    Yeah, so the solution to making the people at ease after a single self appointed neighborhood watch vigilante shoots a teen is to....

    add more neighborhood watch vigilantes? Except this time they are actively pro-white.

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  • Void SlayerVoid Slayer Very Suspicious Registered User regular
    Does someone really need to explain to fox news editors and viewers that National Socialist = Nazi?

    Or are Nazis some how now not outright evil?

    Did no one in the studio see that and go, "hey guys, this is like Germany in the 1930s."

    We need to scrap English and Math from no child left behind and make it all history, all the time.

    He's a shy overambitious dog-catcher on the wrong side of the law. She's an orphaned psychic mercenary with the power to bend men's minds. They fight crime!
  • Brian KrakowBrian Krakow Registered User regular
    Does someone really need to explain to fox news editors and viewers that National Socialist = Nazi?

    Or are Nazis some how now not outright evil?

    Did no one in the studio see that and go, "hey guys, this is like Germany in the 1930s."

    We need to scrap English and Math from no child left behind and make it all history, all the time.

    They've taken the "never ever challenge anything anyone says*" school of American journalism to its natural extreme.

    *liberals and other members of the Left excepted

  • YougottawannaYougottawanna Registered User regular
    Even if they didn't pick up on the nazi thing, you'd think they would have at least picked up on the "socialist" thing.

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  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular

    OH GOD WHY DID I CLICK ON COMMENTS

  • spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular

    OH GOD WHY DID I CLICK ON COMMENTS

    Never read the comments. The bottom half of the internet is terrible.

  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    There's terrible then there's "when did theatlantic turn into stormfront"

  • iTunesIsEviliTunesIsEvil Registered User regular
    There's terrible then there's "when did theatlantic turn into stormfront"

    I'm gonna bet it's gotten worse since Andrew Sullivan has been there and has been whining and pushing and ignoring sensible people regarding the Bell Curve stuff.

  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    Sullivan couldn't be more of a tool if his head was shaped like a hammer

  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    There's terrible then there's "when did theatlantic turn into stormfront"

    Assume it was linked on stormfront or Red State or National Review or whatever.

    Herbert Hoover got 40% of the vote in 1932. Friendly reminder.
  • spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    There's terrible then there's "when did theatlantic turn into stormfront"

    Assume it was linked on stormfront or Red State or National Review or whatever.

    Those three sites are not like one another. That was an exceedingly cheap shot.

  • AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Let's get to twerk! The King in the SwampRegistered User regular
    spool32 wrote: »
    There's terrible then there's "when did theatlantic turn into stormfront"

    Assume it was linked on stormfront or Red State or National Review or whatever.

    Those three sites are not like one another. That was an exceedingly cheap shot.

    They all are pretty awful though, albeit on different levels and National Review slightly less so.

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  • spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    spool32 wrote: »
    There's terrible then there's "when did theatlantic turn into stormfront"

    Assume it was linked on stormfront or Red State or National Review or whatever.

    Those three sites are not like one another. That was an exceedingly cheap shot.

    They all are pretty awful though, albeit on different levels and National Review slightly less so.

    No, that's still a giant misrepresentation. Stormfront is a fucking neo-nazi hate group site. Redstate is the rightwing DailyKos, no more and no less. National Review is a respected publication on par with The Nation, and while it's got a very conservative bent it is neither rabble rousing political red meat, nor a cesspool of racist lunacy.

  • AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Let's get to twerk! The King in the SwampRegistered User regular
    spool32 wrote: »
    spool32 wrote: »
    There's terrible then there's "when did theatlantic turn into stormfront"

    Assume it was linked on stormfront or Red State or National Review or whatever.

    Those three sites are not like one another. That was an exceedingly cheap shot.

    They all are pretty awful though, albeit on different levels and National Review slightly less so.

    No, that's still a giant misrepresentation. Stormfront is a fucking neo-nazi hate group site. Redstate is the rightwing DailyKos, no more and no less. National Review is a respected publication on par with The Nation, and while it's got a very conservative bent it is neither rabble rousing political red meat, nor a cesspool of racist lunacy.

    While true-sort of, I'd argue that the National Review has gone down as of late-, your outrage is a bit overblown I think.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    spool32 wrote: »
    spool32 wrote: »
    There's terrible then there's "when did theatlantic turn into stormfront"

    Assume it was linked on stormfront or Red State or National Review or whatever.

    Those three sites are not like one another. That was an exceedingly cheap shot.

    They all are pretty awful though, albeit on different levels and National Review slightly less so.

    No, that's still a giant misrepresentation. Stormfront is a fucking neo-nazi hate group site. Redstate is the rightwing DailyKos, no more and no less. National Review is a respected publication on par with The Nation, and while it's got a very conservative bent it is neither rabble rousing political red meat, nor a cesspool of racist lunacy.

    Read the comments on any Red State article about Derbyshire. It's *incredibly* racist. And NRO employed Derbyshire for 9 years after he outright admitted to being a racist. Only being a super racist in a very public and very obvious way was enough to let him go. And it's not like he's the only one, and plenty of them are tying themselves in knows trying to find a way to blame Trayvon Martin for his own death.

    EDIT: Hell, National Review has always been racist. Buckley HATED the Civil Rights Act. He very eventually recanted when it was no longer politically viable to hate it. And here are the editors (which I presume means Buckley primarily, but it's a staff editorial) on the Birmingham Church Bombing in 1963:
    "The fiend who set off the bomb does not have the sympathy of the white population in the South; in fact, he set back the cause of the white people there so dramatically as to raise the question whether in fact the explosion was the act of a provocateur - of a Communist, or of a crazed Negro. Some circumstantial evidence lends a hint of plausibility to that notion, especially the ten-minute fuse (surely a white man walking away form the church basement ten minutes earlier would have been noticed?). And let it be said that the convulsions that go on, and are bound to continue, have resulted from revolutionary assaults on the status quo, and a contempt for the law, which are traceable to the Supreme Court's manifest contempt for the settled traditions of Constitutional practice."

    It's just a more respectable place for it than neo-Nazis. Who Fox seems to think are allies, as discussed earlier in this thread.

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  • spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    spool32 wrote: »
    spool32 wrote: »
    There's terrible then there's "when did theatlantic turn into stormfront"

    Assume it was linked on stormfront or Red State or National Review or whatever.

    Those three sites are not like one another. That was an exceedingly cheap shot.

    They all are pretty awful though, albeit on different levels and National Review slightly less so.

    No, that's still a giant misrepresentation. Stormfront is a fucking neo-nazi hate group site. Redstate is the rightwing DailyKos, no more and no less. National Review is a respected publication on par with The Nation, and while it's got a very conservative bent it is neither rabble rousing political red meat, nor a cesspool of racist lunacy.

    While true-sort of, I'd argue that the National Review has gone down as of late-, your outrage is a bit overblown I think.

    No, not this time. Sticking Stormfront in that list is fucked up, and Redstate isn't any more or less of a hate site than Kos.

    This is entirely justified outrage.

  • spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    I can be fired just for loading the fucking Stormfront homepage. It does not belong in the same sentence, period.

  • AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Let's get to twerk! The King in the SwampRegistered User regular
    Spool, come on, do you work for RS or NR? What does it matter to you what some guy on the interwebs has to say about either?

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  • spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    Spool, come on, do you work for RS or NR? What does it matter to you what some guy on the interwebs has to say about either?

    I don't work for either, but that was a super-fucked up way of saying "NR, Redstate, fucking white-pride race war nazis, they're all the same."

    No, man. It is bullshit and shouldn't be allowed to slip past unchallenged. It's not like I'm the one exaggerating here.

  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/295591/re-derb-mark-steyn

    Steyn manages to blames Marion Barry for derbshire being a horrible human being

  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    No, I am saying that any of those groups could come and say incredibly vile and racist things. BECAUSE THEY ALL DO! Frequently!

    EDIT: Thanks Mark Steyn, for proving my god damn point.

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  • durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    Hahaha

    He's not racist! He's just mad at that damn mayor for being racist! So mad he hates all black people!

    Also for fuck's sake I love how the social sciences are either

    A.) The butt of a joke. Haha you're not physics! Get a real job! Haha only physics is useful did you read the last XKCD oh man

    or

    B.) Secretly totally in support of every racist/sexist/ridiculous thing you believe but every single fucking scientist is just sitting on it because of a nebulous Establishment keeping them down.

    Because obviously that useless pile of claptrap is also incredibly useful and important and unfairly maligned so long as it justifies your opinions.

    Take a moment to donate what you can to the International Rescue Committee, the National Immigration Law Center, the Southern Poverty Law Center, and the American Civil Liberties Union. There has never been a more urgent moment to do so.
  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    NRO is much better than redstate or stormfront at wrapping their ideas in the garb of intellectualism. If you read Lowry's statement about firing Derbyshire it wasn't so much "we fired him for being a racist' as "he failed to use the appropriate dogwhistles to cover up his racism"

  • spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    No, I am saying that any of those groups could come and say incredibly vile and racist things. BECAUSE THEY ALL DO! Frequently!

    EDIT: Thanks Mark Steyn, for proving my god damn point.

    You don't have a point, you just have a backhanded racist insult.
    But Derb’s wife is Chinese and his children are biracial. And I can see why, in a world in which a four-time mayor of America’s capital city can disparage your own family’s race (“these Asians coming in . . . those dirty shops . . . they ought to go”) and pay no price, a chap might come to resent the way polite society’s indulgence of racism is so highly selective.
    Is not the same as "White Pride World Wide", which is probably the tamest thing on stormfront's site.

    No. They aren't in the same ballpark, not in the same league, they aren't even the same fucking game.

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  • spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    NRO is much better than redstate or stormfront at wrapping their ideas in the garb of intellectualism. If you read Lowry's statement about firing Derbyshire it wasn't so much "we fired him for being a racist' as "he failed to use the appropriate dogwhistles to cover up his racism"

    What?
    His latest provocation, in a webzine, lurches from the politically incorrect to the nasty and indefensible. We never would have published it, but the main reason that people noticed it is that it is by a National Review writer. Derb is effectively using our name to get more oxygen for views with which we’d never associate ourselves otherwise. So there has to be a parting of the ways. Derb has long danced around the line on these issues, but this column is so outlandish it constitutes a kind of letter of resignation. It’s a free country, and Derb can write whatever he wants, wherever he wants. Just not in the pages of NR or NRO, or as someone associated with NR any longer.

    That's a straightforward denunciation.

  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    OK, so. Here's a bunch of conservatives defending Derbyshire, much like Steyn. Who is wrong by the way, I saw a ton of stuff condemning Berry's crazy ass all weekend and lamenting that he used to (at least try to appear) be actually progressive (especially on gay rights).

    I will give Red State this much credit, they pruned the HELL out of the comments on their article about Derbyshire.

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  • HenroidHenroid Radio Demon Internet HellRegistered User regular
    Just doing a checkup: Is Rush Limbaugh recovering from all those lost advertisers or is he still floating out in the wind?

    Centrism is just the cowardly way to be a bigot w/o being explicit about it.
    American politics isn't 4D chess, it's just if you give a shit about other people or not.
  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    Its funny how Steyn basically defends an article without every even mentioning it's content. Maybe he's hoping people won't read it

  • Brian KrakowBrian Krakow Registered User regular
    I'll take white supremacists over "totally not racist, really, I have a black friend" race scientists any day.

  • iTunesIsEviliTunesIsEvil Registered User regular
    I cannot tell if Mark Judge is serious or not. I assume he is serious, and he's seriously looking at the sky, wondering WHAT the hell it is exactly that keeps causing that "WOOSH" noise he hears on a near-daily basis.

    "The end of my White Guilt," wherein Mr Judge apparently assumes his bike MUST have been stolen by a black guy because ... there are blacks in the area? I am REALLY confused by this piece. I keep reading it, thinking I'm missing the part where the police find his bike being ridden by some devious-looking black man.

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