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I hate the chromification of Firefox, can someone help me out?

ShanadeusShanadeus Registered User regular
edited May 2011 in Social Entropy++
This picture explains one of the problems I have with FF 4.0:

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As you can see I want my tabs on the bottom without it looking horribly misdesigned.
If anyone could help me out by designing a new plugin or perhaps pointing me to one then I'd be very grateful. I have version 4.0.1 of FF and am currently using the Classic Compact theme, 4.0.8, and Classic Compact Options, 4.0.8.
I'm still discovering new things with FF 4.0 but my experience with it at the moment is that it's a shitty chrome clone and I hope they haven't messed up any other areas in order to look more like Chrome.

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  • AphostileAphostile San Francisco, CARegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I have discovered your problem, only I can't speak Swedish.

    Hjälp!

    Aphostile on
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  • SheriSheri Resident Fluffer My Living RoomRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I see the issue

    All your text is in some wacky space language

    Sheri on
  • HunterHunter Chemist with a heart of Au Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    You need Hjälp

    Hunter on
  • MVikingMViking Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    you could just go back to FF 3.6

    MViking on
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  • peticanoepeticanoe Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Bokmarken seems like a lazy transliteration

    peticanoe on
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  • The GeekThe Geek Oh-Two Crew, Omeganaut Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited May 2011
    Hjälp

    169961_1237786866785_500_207.jpg

    The Geek on
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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
  • HunterHunter Chemist with a heart of Au Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    There's only one man that can truly hjälp you.

    swedish_chef1251766987.jpg

    Hunter on
  • The GeekThe Geek Oh-Two Crew, Omeganaut Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited May 2011
    I didn't know there was a new Firefox out.

    The Geek on
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  • peticanoepeticanoe Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Rolo wrote: »

    Yep.

    Apparently IE9 is not too shabby (for a change). I wonder how it'll handle all the stuff that was designed for IE5.5/6's hideous quirks.

    peticanoe on
    comics monday to friday
    Rolo wrote:
    what's the deal with nerds and cthulu
    when C'thulhu rises all those jocks will finally get what's coming to them
  • BelruelBelruel NARUTO FUCKS Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I have the strange urge to go buy something from Ikea now.

    Belruel on
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  • ShanadeusShanadeus Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Rolo wrote: »

    Yeah, that's not my problem.
    When you move tabs to below of the address bar you end up with tabs looking horribly out of place - with rounded corners towards the address bar instead of away from the address bar.

    Look closer at the pic in the OP and you'll see what I'm talking about.

    Shanadeus on
  • peticanoepeticanoe Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Shanadeus wrote: »
    Rolo wrote: »

    Yeah, that's not my problem.
    When you move tabs to below of the address bar you end up with tabs looking horribly out of place - with rounded corners towards the address bar instead of away from the address bar.

    Look closer at the pic in the OP and you'll see what I'm talking about.

    You could take two minutes and get used to having the tabs at the top, which actually kind of makes more sense.

    peticanoe on
    comics monday to friday
    Rolo wrote:
    what's the deal with nerds and cthulu
    when C'thulhu rises all those jocks will finally get what's coming to them
  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Why do you want less screen space?

    What are you trying to hide?

    Drugs?

    Money?

    Hookers?

    Hooker drugs?

    Blake T on
  • ShanadeusShanadeus Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    It doesn't to me.
    I'm an avid tab user, and often end up with twenty different tabs or so at all times.
    I often jump back and forth between tabs so having them at the bottom and closer to the window of activity makes a lot more sense to me.

    Fixed OP pic to make what I want clearer.

    Shanadeus on
  • TheBigEasyTheBigEasy Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Blake T wrote: »
    Why do you want less screen space?

    What are you trying to hide?

    Drugs?

    Money?

    Hookers?

    Hooker drugs?

    Drug Hookers, who owe you money?

    TheBigEasy on
  • Viscount IslandsViscount Islands [INSERT SoKo HERE] ...it was the summer of my lifeRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    But Chrome is the best

    Viscount Islands on
    I want to do with you
    What spring does with the cherry trees.
  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Rolo wrote: »

    It's good for just browsing but not being able to open downloads without saving them is bullshit so I am pretty happy with a Firefox 4.0 that has incorporated a lot of Chrome's features and returns me to the freedom of opening downloads. I get like 20 notifications on .PDF a day and I was getting tired of saving them all to my desktop and deleting them.

    Butters on
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  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Shanadeus wrote: »
    It doesn't to me.
    I'm an avid tab user, and often end up with twenty different tabs or so at all times.
    I often jump back and forth between tabs so having them at the bottom and closer to the window of activity makes a lot more sense to me.

    Fixed OP pic to make what I want clearer.

    But in terms of access it's easier because you don't need to control your vertical pixel space. You just need to drag the mouse up and not worry about how precise it is.

    Blake T on
  • KilroyKilroy timaeusTestified Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Shanadeus wrote: »
    It doesn't to me.
    I'm an avid tab user, and often end up with twenty different tabs or so at all times.
    I often jump back and forth between tabs so having them at the bottom and closer to the window of activity makes a lot more sense to me.

    Fixed OP pic to make what I want clearer.

    I'm sure moving the cursor that extra centimeter won't dramatically cut down on your porn browsing speed

    Kilroy on
  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited May 2011
    I switched to Chrome about 6 months ago and have never looked back.

    Raijin Quickfoot on
  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    what I don't get is

    why are you asking us to develop a plugin for firefox?

    we're the off-top forum for a webcomic about videogames

    if you really need help you should try the guys at alt.fan.jerkcity.

    Brolo on
  • SheriSheri Resident Fluffer My Living RoomRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I thought he was crazy

    Then I looked at the way my Safari browser is set up

    It looks like what he wants

    Conclusion

    Download Safari
    I am not serious here fyi

    Sheri on
  • ShanadeusShanadeus Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Blake T wrote: »
    Shanadeus wrote: »
    It doesn't to me.
    I'm an avid tab user, and often end up with twenty different tabs or so at all times.
    I often jump back and forth between tabs so having them at the bottom and closer to the window of activity makes a lot more sense to me.

    Fixed OP pic to make what I want clearer.

    But in terms of access it's easier because you don't need to control your vertical pixel space. You just need to drag the mouse up and not worry about how precise it is.

    How is it easier?
    I spend more time navigating my tab bar then using the address bar.
    It makes sense to have the bar that I use the most closer to the centre of the screen and field of activity.

    Shanadeus on
  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited May 2011
    Is this really a problem about an extra mm of mouse movement?

    Raijin Quickfoot on
  • SheriSheri Resident Fluffer My Living RoomRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
  • Viscount IslandsViscount Islands [INSERT SoKo HERE] ...it was the summer of my lifeRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    First World Problems

    Viscount Islands on
    I want to do with you
    What spring does with the cherry trees.
  • KilroyKilroy timaeusTestified Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Is this really a problem about an extra mm of mouse movement?

    That half of a second is crucial to his browsing experience

    Kilroy on
  • ShanadeusShanadeus Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Rolo wrote: »
    what I don't get is

    why are you asking us to develop a plugin for firefox?

    we're the off-top forum for a webcomic about videogames

    if you really need help you should try the guys at alt.fan.jerkcity.

    Yeah, you're right. I really should have posted this in the help forum (was considering posting it in the hardware forum but I thought it'd be out of place).
    If a mod could move the thread there it'd be great.

    Shanadeus on
  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Shanadeus wrote: »
    Blake T wrote: »
    Shanadeus wrote: »
    It doesn't to me.
    I'm an avid tab user, and often end up with twenty different tabs or so at all times.
    I often jump back and forth between tabs so having them at the bottom and closer to the window of activity makes a lot more sense to me.

    Fixed OP pic to make what I want clearer.

    But in terms of access it's easier because you don't need to control your vertical pixel space. You just need to drag the mouse up and not worry about how precise it is.

    How is it easier?
    I spend more time navigating my tab bar then using the address bar.
    It makes sense to have the bar that I use the most closer to the centre of the screen and field of activity.

    Because it's in a specific vertical space.

    As opposed to just dragging it up and not caring where your mouse lands vertically.

    As this is what you do the most of, this is more efficent.

    Blake T on
  • AphostileAphostile San Francisco, CARegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Man, I can just not stop saying Hjälp.

    It is a fun word to say when you're up way too early for work.

    Hjälp Hjälp Hjälp Hjälp.

    Awesome.

    Aphostile on
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  • peticanoepeticanoe Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Shanadeus wrote: »
    It doesn't to me.
    I'm an avid tab user, and often end up with twenty different tabs or so at all times.
    I often jump back and forth between tabs so having them at the bottom and closer to the window of activity makes a lot more sense to me.

    Fixed OP pic to make what I want clearer.

    Use ctrl+tab to switch between tabs.

    I don't know why people use the mouse for things that are easily achieved with keyboard shortcuts. Do you also go down to your task bar to switch between windows? Are you 65 years old?

    peticanoe on
    comics monday to friday
    Rolo wrote:
    what's the deal with nerds and cthulu
    when C'thulhu rises all those jocks will finally get what's coming to them
  • jackaljackal Fuck Yes. That is an orderly anal warehouse. Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    There was an OP pic less clear than the current OP pic. Damn.

    IE9 supremacy.

    jackal on
  • The GeekThe Geek Oh-Two Crew, Omeganaut Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited May 2011
    Belruel wrote: »
    I have the strange urge to go buy something from Ikea now.

    Ikea is pretty rad. We have a few items from them and are highly satisfied.

    The TV shelf thing we got from them is the only thing we've ever found that has enough space for all our game systems, wasn't expensive, and wasn't crazy ornate. It's a pretty nice, simple piece of furniture.

    Our coffee table from Ikea is also super rad. The table slides apart and open from the middle to reveal storage space right underneath. All our controllers are there. It's quite handy.

    The Geek on
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  • TenTen Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Shanadeus wrote: »
    Blake T wrote: »
    Shanadeus wrote: »
    It doesn't to me.
    I'm an avid tab user, and often end up with twenty different tabs or so at all times.
    I often jump back and forth between tabs so having them at the bottom and closer to the window of activity makes a lot more sense to me.

    Fixed OP pic to make what I want clearer.

    But in terms of access it's easier because you don't need to control your vertical pixel space. You just need to drag the mouse up and not worry about how precise it is.

    How is it easier?
    I spend more time navigating my tab bar then using the address bar.
    It makes sense to have the bar that I use the most closer to the centre of the screen and field of activity.

    I think Blake is referring to Chrome, where the tabs are against the top of the screen so you can just jam your mouse up there and not have to be precise about when you stop, which was the purpose of the design. It looks like Firefox has emulated the upward facing tabs without taking that aspect into account.

    Edit: Oh hey, there was another page there with clarification, whoops

    Ten on
  • ShanadeusShanadeus Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    peticanoe wrote: »
    Shanadeus wrote: »
    It doesn't to me.
    I'm an avid tab user, and often end up with twenty different tabs or so at all times.
    I often jump back and forth between tabs so having them at the bottom and closer to the window of activity makes a lot more sense to me.

    Fixed OP pic to make what I want clearer.

    Use ctrl+tab to switch between tabs.

    I don't know why people use the mouse for things that are easily achieved with keyboard shortcuts. Do you also go down to your task bar to switch between windows? Are you 65 years old?

    It takes a couple of seconds for me to use ctrl+tab to move from tab 1 to tab 12.
    Why use the slower keyboard shortcut when a mouse will be so much faster?
    Blake T wrote: »
    Shanadeus wrote: »
    Blake T wrote: »
    Shanadeus wrote: »
    It doesn't to me.
    I'm an avid tab user, and often end up with twenty different tabs or so at all times.
    I often jump back and forth between tabs so having them at the bottom and closer to the window of activity makes a lot more sense to me.

    Fixed OP pic to make what I want clearer.

    But in terms of access it's easier because you don't need to control your vertical pixel space. You just need to drag the mouse up and not worry about how precise it is.

    How is it easier?
    I spend more time navigating my tab bar then using the address bar.
    It makes sense to have the bar that I use the most closer to the centre of the screen and field of activity.

    Because it's in a specific vertical space.

    As opposed to just dragging it up and not caring where your mouse lands vertically.

    As this is what you do the most of, this is more efficent.
    But I am also used to having the tab bar at the bottom so my mouse movement is far from careless. Subconsciously I always end up moving it to that specific vertical height because that's how I've been conditioned.

    I suppose I could recondition myself but why would I when there is probably a software solution to this problem and when it demands more movement when the tab bar is one step further away from the screen of activity?

    EDIT: Saw what Ten wrote. I suppose it would be easier if the tabs where at the very top, yeah.
    But that's not how Firefox does it as you can see in the OP pic.
    Right now the tabs end up in the middle, so I still have to be precise (and perhaps even more so) when moving my mouse vertically to it.

    Shanadeus on
  • BelruelBelruel NARUTO FUCKS Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    The Geek wrote: »
    Belruel wrote: »
    I have the strange urge to go buy something from Ikea now.

    Ikea is pretty rad. We have a few items from them and are highly satisfied.

    The TV shelf thing we got from them is the only thing we've ever found that has enough space for all our game systems, wasn't expensive, and wasn't crazy ornate. It's a pretty nice, simple piece of furniture.

    Our coffee table from Ikea is also super rad. The table slides apart and open from the middle to reveal storage space right underneath. All our controllers are there. It's quite handy.

    Ikea is completely awesome.

    Man I really want to go to ikea now.

    Belruel on
    vmn6rftb232b.png
  • peticanoepeticanoe Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I think it makes more sense to have the address bar under the tabs since the address changes when the tab does. That said, it took me a little while to get used to it in Opera, which was my first tabs-on-top browser.

    I don't think I could switch back to Firefox or Opera at this point, though. Chrome's just too fast.

    Edit: ctrl+shift+tab moves you backwards

    Double edit: There is already a software solution to your problem. You just don't like the way it looks.

    peticanoe on
    comics monday to friday
    Rolo wrote:
    what's the deal with nerds and cthulu
    when C'thulhu rises all those jocks will finally get what's coming to them
  • HunterHunter Chemist with a heart of Au Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Shanadeus wrote: »
    Rolo wrote: »
    what I don't get is

    why are you asking us to develop a plugin for firefox?

    we're the off-top forum for a webcomic about videogames

    if you really need help you should try the guys at alt.fan.jerkcity.

    Yeah, you're right. I really should have posted this in the help forum (was considering posting it in the hardware forum but I thought it'd be out of place).
    If a mod could move the thread there it'd be great.

    I think you missed his point entirely.

    If you have hardware questions, the off topic forum of Penny Arcade is your clear choice. For browser software questions though, I would think the Advice forum for Dinosaur Comics or perhaps the Help Desk section of the Jerkcity forums.

    Hunter on
  • NotASenatorNotASenator Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I'm a tabs-on-top kind of guy, if you know what I mean.

    NotASenator on
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