Are there any followup news reports on the people who were so into it that they couldn't conceive it not happening? I read that one posted earlier of a news crew following a 60 year old man, but I'd love to read more.
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Mike Huckabee said on his radio show today that he suspects the reason this Christian doomsday cult got so much media attention was likely because pointing and laughing at any Christian group with firm beliefs is a favorite liberal pastime. I am paraphrasing. Heavily.
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Oh please as if it was only liberals laughing at this fool and the fools who follow him.
Radio host who predicted End of Days to speak By GARANCE BURKE
ALAMEDA, Calif. —The Christian radio host who predicted the world would end over the weekend said Monday he's ready to talk about why the apocalypse didn't arrive.
Harold Camping declined to immediately comment to The Associated Press but said he'll make a full statement in a broadcast through his Oakland-based Family Radio International.
"I will have more to say tonight," said Camping, an 89-year-old retired civil engineer who previously said there was no possibility the Rapture would not occur at 6 p.m. Saturday. "I will be putting out a message in our broadcast."
Camping had preached that some 200 million people would be saved, and that those left behind would die in a series of scourges visiting Earth until the globe is consumed by a fireball on Oct. 21.
His earlier apocalyptic prediction in 1994 also was a bust, but he said it didn't happen because of a mathematical error.
He told the San Francisco Chronicle on Sunday he was "flabbergasted" his latest doomsday prophecy did not come true.
Gunther Von Harringa, who heads a religious organization that produces content for Camping's media enterprise, said he was "very surprised" the Rapture did not happen as predicted, but he and other believers were in good spirits.
"It hasn't shaken my faith, and we're still searching the Scriptures to understand why it did not happen," said Von Harringa, president of EBible Fellowship, which he operates from his home in Delaware, Ohio. "It's just a matter of OK, Lord, where do we go from here?"
Family Radio's special projects coordinator, Michael Garcia, said he believed the delay was God's way of separating true believers from those willing to doubt what he said were clear biblical warnings.
"Maybe this had to happen for there to be a separation between those who have faith and those who don't," he said. "It's highly possible that our Lord is delaying his coming."
GOD: Hey, Jesus, is this a list of all the people we need to Rapture up ins?
JESUS: Yeah, Dad.
GOD: We don't have room for all these people! You gotta trim this list down.
JESUS: I told them I'd be down there Saturday! I can't reneg!
GOD: Just wait until Thursday. Anyone who despairs in the meantime? Off the list. Problem solved.
I think it would be risky of the oil companies unless they also suppress other research. What if someone has a breakthrough independent of the oil companies? What if it's even better?
Well point A: there isn't just 1 oil company. The amount of money any individual company could make by being able to simply manufacture fuel or make it obsolete is far bigger then the amounts it's possible to make from oil. Every oil company has an incentive to break ranks and wipe out all their competition.
And point B ties into the quoted: technological progress doesn't happen in a vacuum. No one individual ever comes up with a genius idea. Anytime any particular advance happens, it's because research and environment are pointing everyone in that direction - it's just we only remember the guy who got there first.
Sure, I guess I'm just assuming collusion if we are getting all conspiracy theory about oil companies holding back technology for their own gain.
Reuters reported on May 21 that the curtains were drawn in Camping's house in Alameda, California and that nobody was answering the door. Camping emerged from his home on May 22, saying that he was "flabbergasted" that the Rapture did not occur, that he was "looking for answers," and would say more when he returned to work on May 23
I'm pretty much expecting him to come out at this point and go,
"Ah, I see. My bad. I totally forgot to carry the one in Leviticus. Doy! It's actually May 22, 2110! It's irrefutable!"
And all of his followers will go, "Ohhhhhhhh! That makes sense!" And they'll keep on being dumbshits.
Side question: Did Camping ever explain which parts of the Bible said that rolling earthquakes would swallow the Earth at precisely 6:00pm? That seems like a highly specific thing for the Bible to say, and honestly for me, were I one of his followers, it would be the first thing that I'd would like drawn out. It's one thing to believe in the apocalyptic Rapture, another to think there's a code in the Bible that will explain the exact date, and well more crazy to think that code actually gives specific references to exact time of occurrence stratified by time-zones.
The bible probably told time the same way as everything else back then: solar position.
You'd think with the numerous Bible scholars who have studied the Good Book over the last couple centuries that there would be no secrets left to find hidden within the text. How Camping thought he found a clue everyone else missed is baffling.
Me three. I would pay for a follow-up to the Nytimes story on the family where the parents told the kids they were going to hell and spent the college fund. A page or two of the kids verbally abusing the parents for being idiots and saying "Where's your Messiah now?" should suffice.
You'd think with the numerous Bible scholars who have studied the Good Book over the last couple centuries that there would be no secrets left to find hidden within the text. How Camping thought he found a clue everyone else missed is baffling.
Religious scholars probably did see it. They get a lot of credit for applying some skepticism to interpretations. The big difference between a scientist and a religious scholar is that the religious scholar assumes the Bible is derived from divinely inspired texts.
You'd think with the numerous Bible scholars who have studied the Good Book over the last couple centuries that there would be no secrets left to find hidden within the text. How Camping thought he found a clue everyone else missed is baffling.
It's pretty obvious that this guy thought he was a super-special-snowflake for figuring this out when nobody else could have. He was arrogant enough to insist that the Rapture was going to start in HIS time zone - not all across the world at the same time, not in the Holy Land, not even at the international date line - but HIS time zone.
"I'm the genius who figured it out, I'm the first to be Raptured! Wheee!"
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Christianity is a very complex religion, and incredibly easy to get wrong. This leads to Christianity being represented in a poor light.
Yeah, but guess what? The loudest voices think they're speaking for you, so unless you (collectively) stand up and say "we don't agree with them", your permissiveness contributes to Christianity's image problem.
Christianity is a very complex religion, and incredibly easy to get wrong. This leads to Christianity being represented in a poor light.
Yeah, but guess what? The loudest voices think they're speaking for you, so unless you (collectively) stand up and say "we don't agree with them", your permissiveness contributes to Christianity's image problem.
Christianity isn't even close to an amorphous mass.
Fred Phelps does not speak for the Catholic Church. The Pope does not speak for the Presbyterian Church USA. etc etc
Christians stand up all the time and say they disagree with one another.
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This. This is the thing I want explained. How does someone create a multimillion-dollar religious sect based on a prophecy that he literally pulled out of his ass?
This, part 1, subsection 2: How do I start my own?
Christianity is a very complex religion, and incredibly easy to get wrong. This leads to Christianity being represented in a poor light.
Yeah, but guess what? The loudest voices think they're speaking for you, so unless you (collectively) stand up and say "we don't agree with them", your permissiveness contributes to Christianity's image problem.
Christianity isn't even close to an amorphous mass.
Fred Phelps does not speak for the Catholic Church. The Pope does not speak for the Presbyterian Church USA. etc etc
Christians stand up all the time and say they disagree with one another.
This. It's about time people stopped acting like ignorants and realized that there are different Christians much like how there are different races of humans.
It does seem like the Christians who yell the loudest are the ones like Fred Phelps and such. Since they're not going to quiet down anytime soon, it would be helpful for liberal/leftist Christians to try and yell louder.
Christianity is a very complex religion, and incredibly easy to get wrong. This leads to Christianity being represented in a poor light.
Yeah, but guess what? The loudest voices think they're speaking for you, so unless you (collectively) stand up and say "we don't agree with them", your permissiveness contributes to Christianity's image problem.
Christianity isn't even close to an amorphous mass.
Fred Phelps does not speak for the Catholic Church. The Pope does not speak for the Presbyterian Church USA. etc etc
Christians stand up all the time and say they disagree with one another.
This. It's about time people stopped acting like ignorants and realized that there are different Christians much like how there are different races of humans.
Really shows how fucking ignorant this world is.
That's the nature of "member of X did Y therefore all X are SHIT^2." That a handful of people are so destructive that it creates the illusion of many.
Christianity is a very complex religion, and incredibly easy to get wrong. This leads to Christianity being represented in a poor light.
Yeah, but guess what? The loudest voices think they're speaking for you, so unless you (collectively) stand up and say "we don't agree with them", your permissiveness contributes to Christianity's image problem.
Christianity isn't even close to an amorphous mass.
Fred Phelps does not speak for the Catholic Church. The Pope does not speak for the Presbyterian Church USA. etc etc
Christians stand up all the time and say they disagree with one another.
This. It's about time people stopped acting like ignorants and realized that there are different Christians much like how there are different races of humans.
Really shows how fucking ignorant this world is.
That's the nature of "member of X did Y therefore all X are SHIT^2." That a handful of people are so destructive that it creates the illusion of many.
If a black guy shot and killed your whole family you wouldn't go around thinking all black guys are killer criminals would you? Innocent black guys shouldn't have to constantly shout their innocence so you don't label them.
Christianity is a very complex religion, and incredibly easy to get wrong. This leads to Christianity being represented in a poor light.
Yeah, but guess what? The loudest voices think they're speaking for you, so unless you (collectively) stand up and say "we don't agree with them", your permissiveness contributes to Christianity's image problem.
Christianity isn't even close to an amorphous mass.
Fred Phelps does not speak for the Catholic Church. The Pope does not speak for the Presbyterian Church USA. etc etc
Christians stand up all the time and say they disagree with one another.
This. It's about time people stopped acting like ignorants and realized that there are different Christians much like how there are different races of humans.
Really shows how fucking ignorant this world is.
That's the nature of "member of X did Y therefore all X are SHIT^2." That a handful of people are so destructive that it creates the illusion of many.
If a black guy shot and killed your whole family you wouldn't go around thinking all black guys are killer criminals would you? Innocent black guys shouldn't have to constantly shout their innocence so you don't label them.
Christianity is a very complex religion, and incredibly easy to get wrong. This leads to Christianity being represented in a poor light.
Yeah, but guess what? The loudest voices think they're speaking for you, so unless you (collectively) stand up and say "we don't agree with them", your permissiveness contributes to Christianity's image problem.
This sounds exactly like the shit people talk, "Well until every Muslim personally apologizes to me for 9/11, they're all basically terrorists."
Every single Christian article I read about that wasn't one of Camping's followers said this was some dumb, crazy ass shit. What more do you want?
California preacher Harold Camping said Monday his prophecy that the world would end was off by five months because Judgment Day actually will come on Oct. 21.
"Maybe this had to happen for there to be a separation between those who have faith and those who don't," he said. "It's highly possible that our Lord is delaying his coming."[/B]
It does seem like the Christians who yell the loudest are the ones like Fred Phelps and such. Since they're not going to quiet down anytime soon, it would be helpful for liberal/leftist Christians to try and yell louder.
No, it's just that the media loves a freak show and Phelps fits the bill. And Phelps' demonination of Christianty encompasses him and a couple dozen family members, so he essentially speaks for no one.
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Shit, man, that's right before my birthday.
Better ask for some flame-retardant gear.
Again, isn't anyone going to ask him exactly what parts of the Bible he's getting this highly-detailed and specific information from?
"From what I've deduced studying the scriptures, Jesus will arrive Tuesday, Jan 6th, 2019, at 4:36 PM, near a traffic stop in Barstow, California. He'll be wearing a denim jacket and Adidas track pants, and he'll be delivering his divine judgment while driving around in a black 1976 Lincoln Continental with Kentucky plates. All of this is clearly laid out in the scriptures, mostly in Philippians and Solomon, but the Lincoln thing was only foretold in Second Corinthians."
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I thought the Jews ran everything?
I'm an equal-opportunity point-and-laugher.
JESUS: Yeah, Dad.
GOD: We don't have room for all these people! You gotta trim this list down.
JESUS: I told them I'd be down there Saturday! I can't reneg!
GOD: Just wait until Thursday. Anyone who despairs in the meantime? Off the list. Problem solved.
Sure, I guess I'm just assuming collusion if we are getting all conspiracy theory about oil companies holding back technology for their own gain.
The bible probably told time the same way as everything else back then: solar position.
Me three. I would pay for a follow-up to the Nytimes story on the family where the parents told the kids they were going to hell and spent the college fund. A page or two of the kids verbally abusing the parents for being idiots and saying "Where's your Messiah now?" should suffice.
Like it's not as though he failed his Christianity final and accidentally got all the prophecies wrong.
He just straight invented things.
Religious scholars probably did see it. They get a lot of credit for applying some skepticism to interpretations. The big difference between a scientist and a religious scholar is that the religious scholar assumes the Bible is derived from divinely inspired texts.
It's pretty obvious that this guy thought he was a super-special-snowflake for figuring this out when nobody else could have. He was arrogant enough to insist that the Rapture was going to start in HIS time zone - not all across the world at the same time, not in the Holy Land, not even at the international date line - but HIS time zone.
"I'm the genius who figured it out, I'm the first to be Raptured! Wheee!"
I'm totally with you.
In fact, I'd go so far to say that 100% of Christians have it wrong.
Gotta start with these folks. It's a shame they're not more outspoken. But we don't want them to get shot.
It's cool. Liberal Christians are already basically godless communist atheists anyways.
Yeah, but guess what? The loudest voices think they're speaking for you, so unless you (collectively) stand up and say "we don't agree with them", your permissiveness contributes to Christianity's image problem.
Christianity isn't even close to an amorphous mass.
Fred Phelps does not speak for the Catholic Church. The Pope does not speak for the Presbyterian Church USA. etc etc
Christians stand up all the time and say they disagree with one another.
This. This is the thing I want explained. How does someone create a multimillion-dollar religious sect based on a prophecy that he literally pulled out of his ass?
This, part 1, subsection 2: How do I start my own?
This. It's about time people stopped acting like ignorants and realized that there are different Christians much like how there are different races of humans.
Really shows how fucking ignorant this world is.
That's the nature of "member of X did Y therefore all X are SHIT^2." That a handful of people are so destructive that it creates the illusion of many.
If a black guy shot and killed your whole family you wouldn't go around thinking all black guys are killer criminals would you? Innocent black guys shouldn't have to constantly shout their innocence so you don't label them.
Same situation here.
I wouldn't, but there are plenty who would.
This sounds exactly like the shit people talk, "Well until every Muslim personally apologizes to me for 9/11, they're all basically terrorists."
Every single Christian article I read about that wasn't one of Camping's followers said this was some dumb, crazy ass shit. What more do you want?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43140373/?gt1=43001
I guess it's gonna be another five months
Thats pretty fucked
these poor bastards who keep following Camping are just gonna be sapped of any will to live, waiting for the rapture, indefinitely.
Better to have had some closure.
I fucking knew it.
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Better ask for some flame-retardant gear.
Again, isn't anyone going to ask him exactly what parts of the Bible he's getting this highly-detailed and specific information from?
"From what I've deduced studying the scriptures, Jesus will arrive Tuesday, Jan 6th, 2019, at 4:36 PM, near a traffic stop in Barstow, California. He'll be wearing a denim jacket and Adidas track pants, and he'll be delivering his divine judgment while driving around in a black 1976 Lincoln Continental with Kentucky plates. All of this is clearly laid out in the scriptures, mostly in Philippians and Solomon, but the Lincoln thing was only foretold in Second Corinthians."
I hope so because Saturday was a mess, everyone missed their cues.
That's ironic, Hell Week usually comes before opening night.