Pretty disappointed in the map and weapon balance. If the daily steam play numbers are any indication, i'm not the only one. Makes me sad.
The maps do have some serious chokepoints that are almost impossible to break through without a good team. You can rarely win if everyone is doing their own thing. The team needs to be on the same page and working together, or you will lose.
I also wish there was more verticalicality... that isn't a word. I wish the maps had more height to them, more places to parkour climb. Some of the maps do have some spots, such as container city and shipyard, and aquarium has a ventilation system; but I feel like even the devs didn't realize what you can do with their movement system.
The only weapon that is really a problem is the Carb-9. It is too good. What weapons do you think need balancing?
Um, while I sympathize with your problems, some ATI users never needed a fix at all. It's worked nicely on my HD6850 since day one, although the first major patch seemed to improve frame rate and smoothness a little.
I also wish there was more verticalicality... that isn't a word. I wish the maps had more height to them, more places to parkour climb. Some of the maps do have some spots, such as container city and shipyard, and aquarium has a ventilation system; but I feel like even the devs didn't realize what you can do with their movement system.
Um, while I sympathize with your problems, some ATI users never needed a fix at all. It's worked nicely on my HD6850 since day one, although the first major patch seemed to improve frame rate and smoothness a little.
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A few other guns need a boost too, such as the Galactic and FRKN!
Something else gun related I was wondering... how come all the SMGs have the same firing rate? It would be nice to have a bit of variety, the way the ARs have.
My post is just two choice picks, there's a lot more than just those that are getting changed/fixed/balanced. I'm working on a special multi phase system I want to roll out in time, this is just the fasted and simplest changes I can do right now.
A lot of the similar firing rates come down to processing frame/tick rate on a stable way. Otherwise you end up a bullet firing on an unfinished frame and that makes weird things happen!
There's more discussion there, I'm not going to link it all.
Um, while I sympathize with your problems, some ATI users never needed a fix at all. It's worked nicely on my HD6850 since day one, although the first major patch seemed to improve frame rate and smoothness a little.
5770 here. Runs around 15-19 fps last I tried
Whereas I've got a 5870 and it's as smooth as butter. (I'm also on somewhat old drivers apparently 10.10.)
I found it fairly easy to sympathize with security. I mean, they're obviously not all good, but the resistance is barely even a shade of grey. Also it's much easier to side with Mokaena rather than Chen. Screw Chen.
Um, while I sympathize with your problems, some ATI users never needed a fix at all. It's worked nicely on my HD6850 since day one, although the first major patch seemed to improve frame rate and smoothness a little.
5770 here. Runs around 15-19 fps last I tried
Whereas I've got a 5870 and it's as smooth as butter. (I'm also on somewhat old drivers apparently 10.10.)
Wait a second: you guys do know about the ATi hotfix released yesterday, right? Increased performance for Brink as well as enabled CrossfireX?
I went from about 30- 55 frames with one 6870 to well over 150 in crossfire last night.
That, coupled with the recent Brink patch, really helped me out. I still get font distortion, but it appears to be related to the Steam interface opening.
That hotfix is excellent news! I just ordered another HD 5850 to CrossfireX up. Guess I'll need to actually load up Brink again to see how it works (not that it doesn't change some of the horrible maps). The real trick will be seeing if my 4 year old PSU can power the thing.
I hate only being able to play this game on my work computer. I am slowly losing faith that it will ever run on machine despite my machine being able to
I've been enjoying the background story, but it seems that both sides are run by jackasses.
I was having a moral conflict about which side to "support" but both sides are pretty stupid.
What's wrong with Security? They were a purely reactionary force, and with the exception of the raid on Container City (Which was on foot to avoid civilian casualties) they never fought the Resistance in an area where others might get killed. Yes, the did torture some people, but that wasn't a decision made by the normal grunts, nor one endorsed by them. Sure, they were trying to keep the Resistance from leaving the Ark, but look what information they have: The outside world is a terrible, horrible place, and if somebody leaves, they'll bring them back here, and the last time people came to the Ark it turned out terribly.
Compare that to the Resistance who poison their spies, overload reactors, shoot down helicopters for their computers, or the main tower and kill thousands, just to make a point.
Compare that to the Resistance who poison their spies, overload reactors, shoot down helicopters for their computers, or the main tower and kill thousands, just to make a point.
And the What If for the Resistance is hilarious in regards to the last part of that sentence, to boot.
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Man the Drognav is a fun weapon. BOOM...BOOM. Dead.
Yeah, I'm surprised the Barnett gets such attention when the Drognav is so good. The fact that it can also be effective at mid-range firefights and the good rate of fire makes the fact that you need to shoot two or three times to kill someone isn't really all that bad.
First impessions... love the customization and the art style. Game play is a little stuttery at times and the freerunning aspect gets tripped up by technical limitations but the game is fun.
More people need to get it for PS3... too many bots.
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First impessions... love the customization and the art style. Game play is a little stuttery at times and the freerunning aspect gets tripped up by technical limitations but the game is fun.
More people need to get it for PS3... too many bots.
i have it for ps3.
when do you play?
i am east coast us, i work second shift, so i play from 1030-1230, and usually again after work, from 0030-130.
Im in California so PST for me. I tend to play Monday thru Thursday 7pm to 11pm and the weekends all day erry day... if im not doing anything. Add me to PSN and we'll see whats up.
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The only weapon that is really a problem is the Carb-9. It is too good. What weapons do you think need balancing?
I was really only talking about SMG's in general. The maps are full of mostly smaller spaces and SMG's are king. The assault rifles don't have the range to make them fill other rolls better than SMG's. Watch some of the livestreams with the serious business clans competing. They always use the lighter/medium body and SMG's.
A heavy can be burst down in a flash by an SMG where most of the heavy weapons require him to camp in just the perfect place to be effective.
Its just one annoying little thing after another with Brink that drives me to just pick another, more reliable game whenever i'm looking to shoot mans.
I've been enjoying the background story, but it seems that both sides are run by jackasses.
I was having a moral conflict about which side to "support" but both sides are pretty stupid.
What's wrong with Security? They were a purely reactionary force, and with the exception of the raid on Container City (Which was on foot to avoid civilian casualties) they never fought the Resistance in an area where others might get killed. Yes, the did torture some people, but that wasn't a decision made by the normal grunts, nor one endorsed by them. Sure, they were trying to keep the Resistance from leaving the Ark, but look what information they have: The outside world is a terrible, horrible place, and if somebody leaves, they'll bring them back here, and the last time people came to the Ark it turned out terribly.
Compare that to the Resistance who poison their spies, overload reactors, shoot down helicopters for their computers, or the main tower and kill thousands, just to make a point.
The Security torture (presumably more than just Nachaiev given Chen's reaction to him being in the infirmary) and stole an antidote under the guise of it being poison (though it may actually be poison given the Resistance's reactor what-if mission). The Security also support what is fundamentally a Founder based dictatorship where the lower class guests are forced to do dangerous labor.
Both sides would be a little less stupid if they were both honest about the situation. "Hey, the world outside is inhabited by a bunch of savages" and "Hey, the Ark is pretty much fucked and we're gonna sink into the sea any day now" is some pretty important information. Though given that scenario if Security win the Ark is doomed, if Resistance win than Nacho-yev may find someplace that isn't inhabited by savages. Of course if they were honest then there wouldn't be a game. If the game gets popular I see them making a Brink 2 where the Resistance gets off the Ark causing a conflict with the outside world so the Ark has to unite to fight them off.
The way headshots work in this game just feels... wrong.
In CS you can feel a headshot when you line up the cross hairs just right and blow their brains out. In Brink, I hit them in the head, and don't notice any difference. Or sometimes get headshots without noticing.
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I think it is a few patches away from being a much better game.
I'd like to see some patching heading the 360 way someday, yeah.
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I've been enjoying the background story, but it seems that both sides are run by jackasses.
I was having a moral conflict about which side to "support" but both sides are pretty stupid.
What's wrong with Security? They were a purely reactionary force, and with the exception of the raid on Container City (Which was on foot to avoid civilian casualties) they never fought the Resistance in an area where others might get killed. Yes, the did torture some people, but that wasn't a decision made by the normal grunts, nor one endorsed by them. Sure, they were trying to keep the Resistance from leaving the Ark, but look what information they have: The outside world is a terrible, horrible place, and if somebody leaves, they'll bring them back here, and the last time people came to the Ark it turned out terribly.
Compare that to the Resistance who poison their spies, overload reactors, shoot down helicopters for their computers, or the main tower and kill thousands, just to make a point.
The Security torture (presumably more than just Nachaiev given Chen's reaction to him being in the infirmary) and stole an antidote under the guise of it being poison (though it may actually be poison given the Resistance's reactor what-if mission). The Security also support what is fundamentally a Founder based dictatorship where the lower class guests are forced to do dangerous labor.
Both sides would be a little less stupid if they were both honest about the situation. "Hey, the world outside is inhabited by a bunch of savages" and "Hey, the Ark is pretty much fucked and we're gonna sink into the sea any day now" is some pretty important information. Though given that scenario if Security win the Ark is doomed, if Resistance win than Nacho-yev may find someplace that isn't inhabited by savages. Of course if they were honest then there wouldn't be a game. If the game gets popular I see them making a Brink 2 where the Resistance gets off the Ark causing a conflict with the outside world so the Ark has to unite to fight them off.
I do hope the game sold well enough. I managed to beat both campaigns, and it looks like a Brink 2 could be pretty interesting.
I've been enjoying the background story, but it seems that both sides are run by jackasses.
I was having a moral conflict about which side to "support" but both sides are pretty stupid.
What's wrong with Security? They were a purely reactionary force, and with the exception of the raid on Container City (Which was on foot to avoid civilian casualties) they never fought the Resistance in an area where others might get killed. Yes, the did torture some people, but that wasn't a decision made by the normal grunts, nor one endorsed by them. Sure, they were trying to keep the Resistance from leaving the Ark, but look what information they have: The outside world is a terrible, horrible place, and if somebody leaves, they'll bring them back here, and the last time people came to the Ark it turned out terribly.
Compare that to the Resistance who poison their spies, overload reactors, shoot down helicopters for their computers, or the main tower and kill thousands, just to make a point.
The Security torture (presumably more than just Nachaiev given Chen's reaction to him being in the infirmary) and stole an antidote under the guise of it being poison (though it may actually be poison given the Resistance's reactor what-if mission). The Security also support what is fundamentally a Founder based dictatorship where the lower class guests are forced to do dangerous labor.
Both sides would be a little less stupid if they were both honest about the situation. "Hey, the world outside is inhabited by a bunch of savages" and "Hey, the Ark is pretty much fucked and we're gonna sink into the sea any day now" is some pretty important information. Though given that scenario if Security win the Ark is doomed, if Resistance win than Nacho-yev may find someplace that isn't inhabited by savages. Of course if they were honest then there wouldn't be a game. If the game gets popular I see them making a Brink 2 where the Resistance gets off the Ark causing a conflict with the outside world so the Ark has to unite to fight them off.
It's only a dictatorship in the sense of a bunch of people barge in to your home and demand to live there, and there is no way for you to throw them out so you set up a shed in the backyard. It's still your damn yard and you can tell those people what to do.
The way headshots work in this game just feels... wrong.
In CS you can feel a headshot when you line up the cross hairs just right and blow their brains out. In Brink, I hit them in the head, and don't notice any difference. Or sometimes get headshots without noticing.
Thats because Brink is not trying to be a counter-strike type of game. It's an Enemy Territory game, and plays like one.
i rarely go for headshots unless i have a pistol and little ammo. it's much more effective to aim for the torso and dump all my bullets in them just in case.
i rarely go for headshots unless i have a pistol and little ammo. it's much more effective to aim for the torso and dump all my bullets in them just in case.
Yea, same here. It's weird that the game supports spraying into a torso, rather than controlled bursts at a head.
I've been enjoying the background story, but it seems that both sides are run by jackasses.
I was having a moral conflict about which side to "support" but both sides are pretty stupid.
What's wrong with Security? They were a purely reactionary force, and with the exception of the raid on Container City (Which was on foot to avoid civilian casualties) they never fought the Resistance in an area where others might get killed. Yes, the did torture some people, but that wasn't a decision made by the normal grunts, nor one endorsed by them. Sure, they were trying to keep the Resistance from leaving the Ark, but look what information they have: The outside world is a terrible, horrible place, and if somebody leaves, they'll bring them back here, and the last time people came to the Ark it turned out terribly.
Compare that to the Resistance who poison their spies, overload reactors, shoot down helicopters for their computers, or the main tower and kill thousands, just to make a point.
The Security torture (presumably more than just Nachaiev given Chen's reaction to him being in the infirmary) and stole an antidote under the guise of it being poison (though it may actually be poison given the Resistance's reactor what-if mission). The Security also support what is fundamentally a Founder based dictatorship where the lower class guests are forced to do dangerous labor.
Both sides would be a little less stupid if they were both honest about the situation. "Hey, the world outside is inhabited by a bunch of savages" and "Hey, the Ark is pretty much fucked and we're gonna sink into the sea any day now" is some pretty important information. Though given that scenario if Security win the Ark is doomed, if Resistance win than Nacho-yev may find someplace that isn't inhabited by savages. Of course if they were honest then there wouldn't be a game. If the game gets popular I see them making a Brink 2 where the Resistance gets off the Ark causing a conflict with the outside world so the Ark has to unite to fight them off.
It's only a dictatorship in the sense of a bunch of people barge in to your home and demand to live there, and there is no way for you to throw them out so you set up a shed in the backyard. It's still your damn yard and you can tell those people what to do.
Okay, so, I didn't peruse the audio logs, and I blew throught the campaign, but based on the nature of the objectives, I was under the impression that Brink's "story" all depended on what side you chose. If you picked Resistance, it's an antidote! But if you picked Security, it's a bio-weapon!
I didn't think it was so big double-sided conspiracy stuff, I thought it was merely presenting whatever side you're on as the "right" one.
The audio logs paint the Resistance a dark shade of dumbass.
Let's steal zinc from the water purification system in order to make ammunition, then use the resulting water shortage as an example of our mistreatment!
yea, the text bug is still out there, but i just updated to that hotfix and my weird shadows bug might be fixed. C city was back to normal but that one wasn't as bad as the shipyard which i haven't gotten on
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Pretty disappointed in the map and weapon balance. If the daily steam play numbers are any indication, i'm not the only one. Makes me sad.
The maps do have some serious chokepoints that are almost impossible to break through without a good team. You can rarely win if everyone is doing their own thing. The team needs to be on the same page and working together, or you will lose.
I also wish there was more verticalicality... that isn't a word. I wish the maps had more height to them, more places to parkour climb. Some of the maps do have some spots, such as container city and shipyard, and aquarium has a ventilation system; but I feel like even the devs didn't realize what you can do with their movement system.
The only weapon that is really a problem is the Carb-9. It is too good. What weapons do you think need balancing?
Brink fixed for Ati yet?
Um, while I sympathize with your problems, some ATI users never needed a fix at all. It's worked nicely on my HD6850 since day one, although the first major patch seemed to improve frame rate and smoothness a little.
Brink is crying out for a map editor.
5770 here. Runs around 15-19 fps last I tried
There's more discussion there, I'm not going to link it all.
I'm happy to read this stuff.
Whereas I've got a 5870 and it's as smooth as butter. (I'm also on somewhat old drivers apparently 10.10.)
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I was having a moral conflict about which side to "support" but both sides are pretty stupid.
Wait a second: you guys do know about the ATi hotfix released yesterday, right? Increased performance for Brink as well as enabled CrossfireX?
I went from about 30- 55 frames with one 6870 to well over 150 in crossfire last night.
Source: http://twitter.com/#!/CatalystCreator/status/73490233097854976
That, coupled with the recent Brink patch, really helped me out. I still get font distortion, but it appears to be related to the Steam interface opening.
Also, fun times last night with a lot of you.
I want to love you Brink. I do!
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What's wrong with Security? They were a purely reactionary force, and with the exception of the raid on Container City (Which was on foot to avoid civilian casualties) they never fought the Resistance in an area where others might get killed. Yes, the did torture some people, but that wasn't a decision made by the normal grunts, nor one endorsed by them. Sure, they were trying to keep the Resistance from leaving the Ark, but look what information they have: The outside world is a terrible, horrible place, and if somebody leaves, they'll bring them back here, and the last time people came to the Ark it turned out terribly.
Compare that to the Resistance who poison their spies, overload reactors, shoot down helicopters for their computers, or the main tower and kill thousands, just to make a point.
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And the What If for the Resistance is hilarious in regards to the last part of that sentence, to boot.
Yeah, I'm surprised the Barnett gets such attention when the Drognav is so good. The fact that it can also be effective at mid-range firefights and the good rate of fire makes the fact that you need to shoot two or three times to kill someone isn't really all that bad.
More people need to get it for PS3... too many bots.
i have it for ps3.
when do you play?
i am east coast us, i work second shift, so i play from 1030-1230, and usually again after work, from 0030-130.
I was really only talking about SMG's in general. The maps are full of mostly smaller spaces and SMG's are king. The assault rifles don't have the range to make them fill other rolls better than SMG's. Watch some of the livestreams with the serious business clans competing. They always use the lighter/medium body and SMG's.
A heavy can be burst down in a flash by an SMG where most of the heavy weapons require him to camp in just the perfect place to be effective.
Its just one annoying little thing after another with Brink that drives me to just pick another, more reliable game whenever i'm looking to shoot mans.
The Security torture (presumably more than just Nachaiev given Chen's reaction to him being in the infirmary) and stole an antidote under the guise of it being poison (though it may actually be poison given the Resistance's reactor what-if mission). The Security also support what is fundamentally a Founder based dictatorship where the lower class guests are forced to do dangerous labor.
Both sides would be a little less stupid if they were both honest about the situation. "Hey, the world outside is inhabited by a bunch of savages" and "Hey, the Ark is pretty much fucked and we're gonna sink into the sea any day now" is some pretty important information. Though given that scenario if Security win the Ark is doomed, if Resistance win than Nacho-yev may find someplace that isn't inhabited by savages. Of course if they were honest then there wouldn't be a game. If the game gets popular I see them making a Brink 2 where the Resistance gets off the Ark causing a conflict with the outside world so the Ark has to unite to fight them off.
I think it is a few patches away from being a much better game.
In CS you can feel a headshot when you line up the cross hairs just right and blow their brains out. In Brink, I hit them in the head, and don't notice any difference. Or sometimes get headshots without noticing.
I'd like to see some patching heading the 360 way someday, yeah.
I do hope the game sold well enough. I managed to beat both campaigns, and it looks like a Brink 2 could be pretty interesting.
It's only a dictatorship in the sense of a bunch of people barge in to your home and demand to live there, and there is no way for you to throw them out so you set up a shed in the backyard. It's still your damn yard and you can tell those people what to do.
Thats because Brink is not trying to be a counter-strike type of game. It's an Enemy Territory game, and plays like one.
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Yea, same here. It's weird that the game supports spraying into a torso, rather than controlled bursts at a head.
Okay, so, I didn't peruse the audio logs, and I blew throught the campaign, but based on the nature of the objectives, I was under the impression that Brink's "story" all depended on what side you chose. If you picked Resistance, it's an antidote! But if you picked Security, it's a bio-weapon!
I didn't think it was so big double-sided conspiracy stuff, I thought it was merely presenting whatever side you're on as the "right" one.
Let's steal zinc from the water purification system in order to make ammunition, then use the resulting water shortage as an example of our mistreatment!