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billwillbillwill Registered User regular
edited May 2011 in Help / Advice Forum
Before I begin, I would like to say that the reasons as to why I wish to leave my current city are completely irrelevant. Furthermore, I’m not asking as to whether I should do this or not. I just want to nip that in the bud before I begin.

As the title says, I would like to relocate sometime soon (and by soon, I mean anywhere from a few months to a year. I’m not rushing into this). I reside in Las Vegas, Nevada, as I have my whole life, and I want something different.

I like the outdoors, and I spend a lot of time hiking. I also love water sports of all kinds, so a coastal city would be pretty great. The only landscape I really hate is desert. Please, don’t recommend a dry city.

I am considering any location! Preference is given to a city in America, but I’ll seriously look at cities in foreign countries.

I would like the living expenses to be relatively cheap (or at least not expensive), if possible. I recently graduated with a degree in English, so I don’t need a place that slants towards one profession as I’ll probably be screwed either way.

That’s all I can think of now. I’ll add more if it comes to me later.

Thanks!

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  • CygnusZCygnusZ Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I guess if you just want to get away, doing ESL in China is an option. I'd really consider getting some specialized training, this way you'll actually be able to eek out a living wherever you feel like.

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  • Skoal CatSkoal Cat Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Do you speak Spanish? Miami is pretty much the opposite of "dry".

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  • billwillbillwill Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I've considered maybe teaching overseas. But I want to permanently relocate, not take a one or two year break from this city.

    I don't speak any foreign languages at all.

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  • exisexis Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Just throwing this out here, though I don't expect you to jump on it... but New Zealand is nice. Lots of great tramping tracks with beautiful scenery. And no matter where you are, the coast is less than a few hours drive away. Auckland, Wellington, Tauranga are all pretty swell places.

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  • billwillbillwill Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    exis wrote: »
    Just throwing this out here, though I don't expect you to jump on it... but New Zealand is nice. Lots of great tramping tracks with beautiful scenery. And no matter where you are, the coast is less than a few hours drive away. Auckland, Wellington, Tauranga are all pretty swell places.

    Ha. I actually love New Zealand. I traveled there about two years ago, backpacked all around the North Island.

    I was approved for a Working Holiday last October, but I never took advantage of it.

    Really, New Zealand is quite high on my list.

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  • DanMachDanMach Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    NZ can be quite difficult to get citizenship. I looked into it 2 or 3 years ago and they are quite picky...

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  • xThanatoSxxThanatoSx Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Another vote here for New Zealand.

    If you were approved for the working holiday last October (by which I assume you mean Oct 2010)... if I remember right from when I did mine, it was valid for a year after approval to be able to enter the country.

    YMMV - I did mine back in 2004.

    If you've got a degree, it didn't used to be horribly difficult to get full work permits/visa. To be fair, I had the advantage of I was living with a NZ resident (i.e. my Australian now-wife) so that bonused me a bit on point value for the application process.

    I ended up living there for 4.5 years - sometimes I wonder why I moved back.

    Be warned - cost of living sucks.

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  • Iceman.USAFIceman.USAF Major East CoastRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Boston and DC are both basically the opposite of LV. Lots of outdoorsy stuff within a short ride.

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  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Boston can be tough to get out of though. If you can swing it, Portland, ME is amazing - Great food, kayaking/hiking/etc. nearby and a fun vibe to the city. Downside? It's very cold in the winter. Other places that came to mind with hiking/watersports - Colorado near a river, Seattle, Bend Oregon.

    NH is also pretty sweet, and actually has really low unemployment right now.

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  • illigillig Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    any reason why you're focusing on a city? unless i missed it, none of your requirements include actual city-ish things

    have you considered going to a small town, suburb somewhere? lots of places along the coastline that wouldn't be considered a major city yet are full of outdoorsy stuff!

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  • StraygatsbyStraygatsby Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    You sound like the standard Portland guy. The problem is that Portland is busting at the seams with Portland guys. :lol:

    Perhaps consider the SE US? Atlanta, Charlotte, one of the mid-size beach towns? It'd certainly be a different climate while giving you access to all the nature you like AND coastal access.

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  • SpherickSpherick Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    As long as you're OK with not having anything above sea-level, Tampa/Clearwater/St. Petersburg FL are all amazing cities with awesome beaches and close to outdoorsy things (tons of parks in central FL).

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  • SpudgeSpudge Witty comments go next to this blue dot thingyRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    You know what's not too far from LV, is pretty much geared entirely toward outdoor activities and lots of lakes? Not to mention over 50 mountains upwards of 14,000 feet?

    The Front Range, specifically anywhere between Colorado Springs and Fort Collins

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  • BlindZenDriverBlindZenDriver Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Look into Denmark, Sweden and Norway.

    Everybody here speaks English so that will not be a problem and there are lot of amazing places in this part of the world - especially when you're into outdoor life.

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  • RobmanRobman Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    If you want somewhere that isn't dry, you'll find lots of work and wetness in Washington state.

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  • DemerdarDemerdar Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Look into Colorado.. pretty outdoorsy and the weather is great. My advice is.. get out of Las Vegas, don't balk on this. I grew up there too, and left as soon as I turned 18 and never looked back. That place is stagnant. Get out of there.

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  • ViscountalphaViscountalpha The pen is mightier than the sword http://youtu.be/G_sBOsh-vyIRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    West side of oregon/washington is what your looking for. The problem is finding a job right now in this terrible economy.

    I'm not sure you want to head directly for portland, maybe you want something a bit more accessible. You might be quite satisfied with southern oregon, but the jobs are even more scarce down there.

    As for northern oregon, I'd say Hillsboro/aloha/beaverton area might be a good place to look. Good hiking/camping nearby.

    Silver falls is incredible.

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    If anything come and at least see this place.

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  • zucchinizucchini robothero pretty much amazingRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    You could move to Philadelphia.

    Within a short drive of the Appalacian trail and lots of other hiking/skiing spots, a similar distance from the jersey/delaware beaches. 10-20$ bus/train ride to DC or NYC.

    The city itself has tons of other stuff to do and it's extremely "affordable"

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  • GirlPantsGirlPants Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I vote for Denver, CO. I moved here a year ago and so far it's been pretty great. Close to the mountains with lots of famous ski towns. The city is pretty cool, lots to do. Tons of shows and places to drink, eat. I don't own a car and I have no problem getting around with just my bike.

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  • Namel3ssNamel3ss Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I really enjoy Portland, but alot of these places sound great.

    I would second the notion of why do you need a city vs a coastal town and what type of work are you looking for?

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  • moocowmoocow Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    People beat me to suggesting Colorado!

    It's a pretty neat place. Denver's not too crazy, as far as cities go, or you could head up to Fort Collins if you want to try the college town thing. I live in a small ski resort town, and while I don't think I'll live here forever (fuck these 6 month winters), it's a pretty good place to live too.

    Denver and other Front Range areas have a much different climate than North Western CO, which is where I live, so the whole "6 month winter" thing isn't as big a deal there.

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  • SpudgeSpudge Witty comments go next to this blue dot thingyRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Yeah Front Range winters aren't as bad as people make it out to be. We get 3 or 4 decent storms, the rest of the time it's just cold

    But the one thing you can expect is a snowstorm as late as July. It happens sometimes

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    it'd be good to get a clue as to why you want something different. Is it just for something different, or something specific to your city? If you wanted to go as different as possible, a city in Europe or Asia would be the best as they will offer the most different culture.

    However, an American or Australian city would be good to avoid culture shock, as they aren't too different. Australia might fit your definition of "dry", though, unless you move to Brisbane which is more tropical than the rest of Australia.

    South Korea is an excellent destination if you wish to go really different, as its easy to get a job teaching English there (reportedly, however I have no first hand experience).

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    moocow wrote: »
    People beat me to suggesting Colorado!

    It's a pretty neat place. Denver's not too crazy, as far as cities go, or you could head up to Fort Collins if you want to try the college town thing. I live in a small ski resort town, and while I don't think I'll live here forever (fuck these 6 month winters), it's a pretty good place to live too.

    Denver and other Front Range areas have a much different climate than North Western CO, which is where I live, so the whole "6 month winter" thing isn't as big a deal there.

    Southern Colorado has 6 month winters. I wasn't aware anywhere in CO didn't, actually.

    OP, if you want water, I wouldn't recommend CO. It's got a few lakes and reservoirs but clearly no oceans. However, if you're willing to sacrifice, say, surfing (and warm water) it's an incredibly beautiful place filled with tons and tons of places for outdoor activities.

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I just re-read your OP, and I will recommend any Australian capital city except for Darwin.

    They're all essentially coastal cities, and Australian beaches are pretty great. Beach weather is all year around. We are a drier country, rainfall outside of winter is basically nonexistent and it was low in winter last year, but it is not a desert by any means unless you actually drive several hours to find desert. 7-8 months out of the year nearly every day is beach weather, and the beaches are great.

    Any of the cities pretty much fits this criteria, too, whether it be Perth, Sydney, Melbourne, or Brisbane, you'll like any of them. Perth is more isolated than the other three and is a quieter city overall (less nightlife, mostly). Sydney is the biggest, and Melbourne isn't far behind. Melbourne is also considered to be a slightly colder, wetter city, but I don't know how much of that is truth and how much is exaggeration by my family who has been there, as I haven't actually ever been there myself. Brisbane (in Queensland) is fantastic too, very sunny, as well as beng home to the Great Barrier Reef.

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    To add a bit to that with some temperature information, I looked up what Wikipedia has to say about our temperatures, and Wikipedia says "Summer daytime temperatures range from 32 to 40 degrees Celsius (90 to 104 °F). In winter, this falls to 18 to 23 °C (64 to 73 °F)." Those are maximum temperatures, not average.

    thats pretty much accurate. 40 degree weather is pretty rare in summer though. Most days from mid-November to early March have a maximum of 32-36degrees. Right now being mid-May we're coming up on winter and most daily maximums hover around 22-24 degrees Celsius. Its pretty much unheard of to have a maximum temperature lower than the mid-teens, even in winter, and the temperature rarely, if ever, drops below 0, even in the coldest winter nights.

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  • GafotoGafoto Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Salt Lake City is cheap (cost of living is much much lower than Denver), has lots of outdoor activities like skiing, hiking and mountain biking as well as the salt lake itself. I'm not sure that would satisfy you in terms of water activities, but it's a start. Jobs are (relatively) plentiful so it might be an easy city to transition to.

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