Mechwarrior is still a Microsoft property right? I wonder what happened to MW5.
Weisman bought the license back from Microsoft, so it's not their property anymore
That said, last thing I heard Harmony Gold was trying to shit all over it because it featured mech(s) that are sort of like something from Robotech.
I haven't kept abreast on that thread, but if I'm not mistaken MW5 was supposed to feature "original" mechs from the games and novels that weren't "sort of like something from robotech", they were exact copies of mechs from Robotech (and a number of other anime series).
"Phoenix Hawk Battlemech"
"VF Series Veritech Fighter in Battloid Configuration"
"Zentraedi Officer's Pod"
"MAD-3R Marauder"
Etc, etc, etc.
As I recall, there was some confusion at the time as to who held the rights to these designs, and/or the people in charge didn't care and just decided to use them regardless, but it came to bite them in the ass.
... apparently it's still coming back to bite them in the ass.
And I say this as a huge fan of the 'original designs' (stolen, borrowed, rented or otherwise) and as a fan of Robotech. Whether it's an officer's pod or a Marauder, that's a badass war machine.
From what I understand, they did get the ok to use many of those mechs (which are called "The Unseen" by BattleTech fans, because while they could no longer show them their statblocks were still published for the P&P game) and then released the awesome debut trailer... which was taken down because the specific mech in that game was one of the Unseen that wasn't okayed... I think...
Mechwarrior is still a Microsoft property right? I wonder what happened to MW5.
Weisman bought the license back from Microsoft, so it's not their property anymore
That said, last thing I heard Harmony Gold was trying to shit all over it because it featured mech(s) that are sort of like something from Robotech.
I haven't kept abreast on that thread, but if I'm not mistaken MW5 was supposed to feature "original" mechs from the games and novels that weren't "sort of like something from robotech", they were exact copies of mechs from Robotech (and a number of other anime series).
"Phoenix Hawk Battlemech"
"VF Series Veritech Fighter in Battloid Configuration"
"Armoured Veritech Fighter in Battloid Configuration"
HA HA HA HA, wait, no, that's "Jetfire" from Transformers. Robotech got ripped off a lot it seems. :-P
"Zentraedi Officer's Pod"
"MAD-3R Marauder"
Etc, etc, etc.
As I recall, there was some confusion at the time as to who held the rights to these designs, and/or the people in charge didn't care and just decided to use them regardless, but it came to bite them in the ass.
... apparently it's still coming back to bite them in the ass.
And I say this as a huge fan of the 'original designs' (stolen, borrowed, rented or otherwise) and as a fan of Robotech. Whether it's an officer's pod or a Marauder, that's a badass war machine.
The first two years of Transformers toys were figures taken from older Japanese toylines, primarily Takara's Diaclone and Microman lines. 1985, however, saw several figures reused from lines created by Takatoku Toys, of which Jetfire was one — that of the VF-1S Super Valkyrie Fighter from the Macross series. This figure was one the most articulated of the early Transformer toys, featuring fully poseable shoulder, hip, elbow and knee joints, and even poseable sacroiliac joints.[6] The instruction manual for the toy even included the Gerwalk mode designed for the Macross version of the toy, which was used in that animated series, and seen briefly in the Transformers season 2 episode "The Day of the Machines".
Problems over the Jetfire toy began when Bandai absorbed Takatoku Toys, and Macross regained popularity, leading to Bandai's desire to reproduce the Valkyrie toy themselves. This led to problems for Takara when they imported the Transformers toyline — although Hasbro was able to market the Jetfire toy in their markets, Takara was not, nor could they promote it via the animated series, since the mold was owned by their main competitor. Although an animation model had been created for Jetfire based on the appearance of the toy (which could be seen in the original toy commercial advertising the figure), this was quickly scrapped and completely redesigned so as to no longer resemble the Valkyrie. This was the design that went on to feature in the comics and cartoons — additionally, the cartoon character was redubbed "Skyfire," presumably because the character no longer served to advertise the Jetfire toy. Some fans of the series consider Skyfire a separate character from Jetfire, though according to writers of the comics and television series it is exactly the same character. In the comic book Jetfire is called Jetfire, not Skyfire, and yet looks identical to Skyfire from the cartoon.
Jetfire only saw a few American production runs, as the show the original toy was based upon, The Super Dimension Fortress Macross, was exported to America to become the first third of Robotech. Ironically, since Hasbro released Jetfire first, there was never a U.S. release of an authentic transforming version of the toy for Robotech, even though the design was the series' most recognizable and popular mecha. As with other pre-Robotech borrowings from Macross (for instance, Battletech), the licensing situation for the toy became murky with two different companies (Big West and Tatsunoko Production) asserting exclusive rights to license Macross merchandise outside Japan. Due to these legal issues, Jetfire has not been among the Transformers toys reissued in the 21st century .[7]
This toy is patented in the U.S. as patent number D287037.[8]
Anytime I hear mention of Harmony Gold my teeth clench. It's basically one giant douche denying fans of anything Macross.
Also, MS better pull something amazing this year or it's going to be a suckfest...and by amazing I mean something other than more Halo and Kinect games.
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Anytime I hear mention of Harmony Gold my teeth clench. It's basically one giant douche denying fans of anything Macross.
Also, MS better pull something amazing this year or it's going to be a suckfest...and by amazing I mean something other than more Halo and Kinect games.
Well, if the Halo games are anywhere near as good as Reach then that'd be pretty amazing. of course, you can't tell the amazingness of a game from an announcement...
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Everyone has a price. Throw enough gold around and someone will risk disintegration.
Also, MS better pull something amazing this year or it's going to be a suckfest...and by amazing I mean something other than more Halo and Kinect games.
They'll have some Forza stuff and say Definitive.
Other than that I'm sure it'll be mostly Kinect.
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I really want MS to show me something amazing that makes me finally want a Kinect.
Anytime I hear mention of Harmony Gold my teeth clench. It's basically one giant douche denying fans of anything Macross.
Also, MS better pull something amazing this year or it's going to be a suckfest...and by amazing I mean something other than more Halo and Kinect games.
Well, if the Halo games are anywhere near as good as Reach then that'd be pretty amazing. of course, you can't tell the amazingness of a game from an announcement...
Well Halo is always good really. It's like CoD. You know it'll be good. No reason to doubt. Except actually only if Bungie isn't doing it (which they arnt obviously) so I'm a bit afraid.
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Anytime I hear mention of Harmony Gold my teeth clench. It's basically one giant douche denying fans of anything Macross.
Also, MS better pull something amazing this year or it's going to be a suckfest...and by amazing I mean something other than more Halo and Kinect games.
Well, if the Halo games are anywhere near as good as Reach then that'd be pretty amazing. of course, you can't tell the amazingness of a game from an announcement...
Well Halo is always good really. It's like CoD. You know it'll be good. No reason to doubt. Except actually only if Bungie isn't doing it (which they arnt obviously) so I'm a bit afraid.
I l ike Halo as much as the next fan but honestly I'm not sure if they can really do something to top Reach. Halo is big on story and they pretty much covered every decent story angle, save for perhaps 'The hilarious adventures of Master Chief' which is just going to be more of the same. Might be good, but compared to what's coming this E3 they need something NEW, at the very least some fresh IP to get some blood flowing. Kinect doesn't really count, we know what's coming and last year was it's big hurrah.
What would be really awesome? Handheld gaming, but it's not going to happen. A new console announcement would be even better, but I'm not holding my breath.
Still, you would think MS would have known about the bombs dropping this time around, you'd figure they'd have something up there sleeve. At some point their going to need new hardware out there!
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I really want MS to show me something amazing that makes me finally want a Kinect.
So far, nada.
Actually, I totally don't want that. Because Kinect's dumb space requirements mean I can never really buy one even if I wanted one. Therefore, the more I don't care about the software lineup, the better
I really want MS to show me something amazing that makes me finally want a Kinect.
So far, nada.
Actually, I totally don't want that. Because Kinect's dumb space requirements mean I can never really buy one even if I wanted one. Therefore, the more I don't care about the software lineup, the better
I really want MS to show me something amazing that makes me finally want a Kinect.
So far, nada.
Actually, I totally don't want that. Because Kinect's dumb space requirements mean I can never really buy one even if I wanted one. Therefore, the more I don't care about the software lineup, the better
I've got a feeling you'll be okay.
Yeah, I'll be shocked if there's ever anything more than party games and "on rails" stuff
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The strangest part is that the departure of the totally batshit insane man who wears sunglasses and a leather jacket at all times has made the series more crazy.
Like somehow he was the one keeping things grounded.
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The strangest part is that the departure of the totally batshit insane man who wears sunglasses and a leather jacket at all times has made the series more crazy.
Like somehow he was the one keeping things grounded.
I'm not sure if that should be exciting or disturbing...
I really want MS to show me something amazing that makes me finally want a Kinect.
So far, nada.
Actually, I totally don't want that. Because Kinect's dumb space requirements mean I can never really buy one even if I wanted one. Therefore, the more I don't care about the software lineup, the better
I've got a feeling you'll be okay.
Yeah, I'll be shocked if there's ever anything more than party games and "on rails" stuff
True, I'm not really expecting anything. But it would really suck if something cool was Kinect-exclusive that I couldn't play
Wasn't that the same Old Republic trailer they showed earlier (like last year)? I definitely remember seeing that trooper-fighting-sith-lord sequence before.
Wasn't that the same Old Republic trailer they showed earlier (like last year)? I definitely remember seeing that trooper-fighting-sith-lord sequence before.
It's actually a mash up of three trailers. The trooper trailer was from E3 a couple(?) years back. Great trailer, nothing to do with the game.
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From what I understand, they did get the ok to use many of those mechs (which are called "The Unseen" by BattleTech fans, because while they could no longer show them their statblocks were still published for the P&P game) and then released the awesome debut trailer... which was taken down because the specific mech in that game was one of the Unseen that wasn't okayed... I think...
Not sure if surprised
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a bit off topic but about jetfire/skyfire
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jetfire#Toys
So he was licensed then not..
And also confirms a Halo 1 remaster, pretty sure that was just a rumor until now?
Also, MS better pull something amazing this year or it's going to be a suckfest...and by amazing I mean something other than more Halo and Kinect games.
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Well, if the Halo games are anywhere near as good as Reach then that'd be pretty amazing. of course, you can't tell the amazingness of a game from an announcement...
It was rumoured so often pretty much everyone assumed it was true. And now it is.
What I'm most surprised about is Codename: Kingdoms is a f'n Kinect game. What are you doing, Crytek?
Also:
Kinect: Sparkler. fragglefart is about to be amazed.
They'll have some Forza stuff and say Definitive.
Other than that I'm sure it'll be mostly Kinect.
So far, nada.
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Well Halo is always good really. It's like CoD. You know it'll be good. No reason to doubt. Except actually only if Bungie isn't doing it (which they arnt obviously) so I'm a bit afraid.
Mind = BLOWN.
Killer app right there.
Metacritic 99.3 all up ins.
I l ike Halo as much as the next fan but honestly I'm not sure if they can really do something to top Reach. Halo is big on story and they pretty much covered every decent story angle, save for perhaps 'The hilarious adventures of Master Chief' which is just going to be more of the same. Might be good, but compared to what's coming this E3 they need something NEW, at the very least some fresh IP to get some blood flowing. Kinect doesn't really count, we know what's coming and last year was it's big hurrah.
What would be really awesome? Handheld gaming, but it's not going to happen. A new console announcement would be even better, but I'm not holding my breath.
Still, you would think MS would have known about the bombs dropping this time around, you'd figure they'd have something up there sleeve. At some point their going to need new hardware out there!
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And another fucking interface redesign
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Actually, I totally don't want that. Because Kinect's dumb space requirements mean I can never really buy one even if I wanted one. Therefore, the more I don't care about the software lineup, the better
I've got a feeling you'll be okay.
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Yeah, I'll be shocked if there's ever anything more than party games and "on rails" stuff
Team Ninja in general is silly.
Japan in general is silly.
The craziness is deeply rooted.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6OCnvvkSLM&feature=player_embedded
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The strangest part is that the departure of the totally batshit insane man who wears sunglasses and a leather jacket at all times has made the series more crazy.
Like somehow he was the one keeping things grounded.
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I'm not sure if that should be exciting or disturbing...
it looks surprisingly like a true Kotor successor
I think I might get this
True, I'm not really expecting anything. But it would really suck if something cool was Kinect-exclusive that I couldn't play
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It's actually a mash up of three trailers. The trooper trailer was from E3 a couple(?) years back. Great trailer, nothing to do with the game.
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