Mockingbird is getting her own show? I don't even... What?
Yeah...thats what I don't get.
Incredible Hulk, I understand. Might be a bit confusing for people if there are two Bruce Banners at the same time. But, if this new Incredible Hulk is like the old Incredible Hulk in theme, I'm willing to give it a shot.
AKA Jessica Jones is perfect.
Cloak & Dagger, in New Orleans? That...could work. It'll likely be a pilot that'll just be a one-shot movie deal.
Mockingbird? wtf is Loeb thinking now...? It'd make a lot more sense if Hawkeye was the one getting the series...
I still want to see a Power Pack cartoon.
And I think Luke Cage, Hero for Hire, would be the easiest to adapt to TV. Though at least he'll be appearing in AKA Jessica Jones.
Not sure if I'm glad that Loeb is no longer writing as many comics, or scared that he now has influence over their live-action/cartoon series...
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If they made a Hawk and Mock show, and made it like it was in their miniseries, like a Mr and Mrs Smith kinda thing, I'd be on board. She's just not interesting enough to stand on her own, IMO. But, they could really title the show anything, and as long as they put the sexy spy tag on it, and people will watch. I just wonder why they chose her, unless they plan on using a few of the characters from the H&M mini.
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I can't believe I live in a time where I saw cap in theaters, avengers next year, hulk movie AND TV show and Cloak and Dagger will have their own show.
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Holy shit Captain America was awesome. I just need more though. I need more of the Red Skull, I need more of the Howling Commandos, I need more Howard Stark and I need more Cap.
Almost every character in that movie was just fantastic.
Mockingbird is getting her own show? I don't even... What?
I could see this working, in the same way Blade did. Comic fans say, "Bwah?" but other people say, "Oh, a movie/tv show about a cool vampire slayer/spy."
And there's clearly a market out there for spy and crime procedural stuff. I mean, that's like 90% of the USA Network's original programming, and it's worked out pretty well for them.
At best, we'll get something resembling Veronica Mars, and at worst, something like the old Birds of Prey tv show.
I just would've thought that Black Widow would've made a better character to base a spy series on than Mockingbird. Hell, hot red-headed Russian spies are still in!
I spent my vacation recently watching the second animated series, and I have to say I kinda wished they would do something completely different, because you can't get any better than the series was. They adapted stories straight out of the comics, they had long running plotlines, mature writing that did everything you could with the source material. Anything else will feel like a retread
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wow, they're having Splinter be a mutated human again
and why are they calling all of the brains Kraang? I will say, I do like the idea of a diverse Foot Clan
Looks like Green Lantern was a bit of a box office aberration, after all.
Personally, I liked Captain America, even if I couldn't tell whether some of the camp was intentional. Like, when the Red Skull and Zola are together in a lab, with three Hydra guys behind them, and the dudes do the two-fisted Hydra salute? I laughed, and I'm not sure if I was supposed to. Some of the special effects looked a bit cheap too, especially Cap's "super-speed." It looked like they just sped up the film. And I still think the suit looks kind of weird, with the way the padding would sort of bunch up around the shoulders. Personally, I'd have been okay with Evans just wearing the leather jacket, helmet, and Captain America shirt. Throw a mask on it, and it would have been a perfectly good period superhero costume.
The pacing felt a little off in the middle, too. Specifically, all the Howling Commando stuff. Due to how compressed everything was, when one of the Commandos die in what should have been a wrenching scene, it came off as a bit anti-climactic. Also, the plan to storm the big Hydra base at the end, was goofy as Hell.
Still, I felt like the actors all nailed their parts. Dominic Cooper's super-smarmy Howard Stark was a ton of fun, Toby Jones made a great sniveling Zola, Tucci's Erskine was fantastic (and I wish would have had more screentime) and Tommy Lee Jones was Tommy Lee Jones'in it up. Hayley Atwell also plays one of the more convincing hardass women in a comic book movie, though she didn't really get any quality action scenes, and Evans really managed to sell the idea that Steve Rogers is still a gangly little nice guy at heart.
you realize that scene you thought was anti-climactic wasn't exactly
a random commando so much as steve's best friend from the beginning of the movie who he went to the hydra camp specifically the rescue right? That seems pretty well built up to me. I will agree that the Howling commando part should have gotten more time to develop but that aspect of it had been built up from the beginning of the movie.
you realize that scene you thought was anti-climactic wasn't exactly
a random commando so much as steve's best friend from the beginning of the movie who he went to the hydra camp specifically the rescue right? That seems pretty well built up to me. I will agree that the Howling commando part should have gotten more time to develop but that aspect of it had been built up from the beginning of the movie.
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Yeah, I know who he is. I was just being vague to avoid spoiling the character's identity.
Still, the death of that character should be a really big deal in Captain America's story. And I just never got a sense that he and Cap were great friends. I mean, the movie tells you they are, but I don't feel like it shows you. Here's that character's arc:
-He saves a puny Steve Rogers from a beating, takes him out on a double date, and is then called to serve.
-He's captured by Hydra off-screen, motivating Steve to become a real soldier and hero, and is eventually rescued by Cap.
-He agrees to join Cap's Howling Commandos, saying he's not following Captain America, but Steve Rogers. This leads to a montage scene, showing the Howling Commandos wrecking the Red Skull's forces.
-He tries to dance with Peggy Carter, and is shot down, in a callback to the earlier double-date scene.
-Soon after, he leaves on a mission with Steve, where he's blasted out the side of a train by some anonymous Hydra goon, falling to his presumed death.
I understand that they had a lot of stuff to squeeze into two hours, but I just never really got the sense that the two were good buddies, and a few more scenes showing them in action, would have solved that. As is, it felt like they had very little chemistry, and the character existed as something of a cipher. He actually came off as more bland than the other, more eccentric members of the Howling Commandos, just because he had no major, defining characteristics.
Add all that to his oddly ignoble, unimportant death at the hands of a random stormtrooper, and it seemed to really make a major part of Cap's mythology, fall rather flat. I imagine it was done that way
to defy expectations and surprise any comic book fans in the crowd, but it left me a bit cold.
you realize that scene you thought was anti-climactic wasn't exactly
a random commando so much as steve's best friend from the beginning of the movie who he went to the hydra camp specifically the rescue right? That seems pretty well built up to me. I will agree that the Howling commando part should have gotten more time to develop but that aspect of it had been built up from the beginning of the movie.
Actual spoilers follow:
Yeah, I know who he is. I was just being vague to avoid spoiling the character's identity.
Still, the death of that character should be a really big deal in Captain America's story. And I just never got a sense that he and Cap were great friends. I mean, the movie tells you they are, but I don't feel like it shows you. Here's that character's arc:
-He saves a puny Steve Rogers from a beating, takes him out on a double date, and is then called to serve.
-He's captured by Hydra off-screen, motivating Steve to become a real soldier and hero, and is eventually rescued by Cap.
-He agrees to join Cap's Howling Commandos, saying he's not following Captain America, but Steve Rogers. This leads to a montage scene, showing the Howling Commandos wrecking the Red Skull's forces.
-He tries to dance with Peggy Carter, and is shot down, in a callback to the earlier double-date scene.
-Soon after, he leaves on a mission with Steve, where he's blasted out the side of a train by some anonymous Hydra goon, falling to his presumed death.
I understand that they had a lot of stuff to squeeze into two hours, but I just never really got the sense that the two were good buddies, and a few more scenes showing them in action, would have solved that. As is, it felt like they had very little chemistry, and the character existed as something of a cipher. He actually came off as more bland than the other, more eccentric members of the Howling Commandos, just because he had no major, defining characteristics.
Add all that to his oddly ignoble, unimportant death at the hands of a random stormtrooper, and it seemed to really make a major part of Cap's mythology, fall rather flat. I imagine it was done that way
to defy expectations and surprise any comic book fans in the crowd, but it left me a bit cold.
Ahh I misread how you meant your first post about it. I get what you mean and yeah I think there could have been more development there.
The way it played to me, and the way I think it was supposed to have played was that he died saving Cap's life. He gets blown out of a train by a random hydra goon yeah, but it happens because he picks up Cap's shield and stands over him defending him.
The way it played to me, and the way I think it was supposed to have played was that he died saving Cap's life. He gets blown out of a train by a random hydra goon yeah, but it happens because he picks up Cap's shield and stands over him defending him.
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I saw it this afternoon, and I think seeing superhero movies midday during the week is going to be the way to go. Very few young kids there to talk and be distracting, although someone brought a baby into the theater but it remained silent trhoughout the film.
I really liked it, probably the 3rd best superhero movie behind Iron Man & Dark Knight. All the actors were spot on brilliant, probably the best cast to date. The chick playing Peggy is easily the best female character in a Marvel film, never really trying to be more than what she was, which easily surpasses Pepper and the Black Widow. The 3D scenes (saw it on 2D but you could tell which parts were 3D) kind of felt too out of the blue.
And I think my favorite line was "Go catch him! I can swim!" For some reason that was just a fun scene.
Now, there were two things I really didn't care for in the movie, but they weren't integral to the story. No one smoked! This is something that is kind of a big deal in a 1940's world, especially for soldiers in a bar and off duty. Steve wouldn't smoke, but I'm pretty sure 90% of everyone else would. It just really stood out, when you factor in they show beer like it ain't no thang. Another thing was how they went out of their way to not show Swastikas. The one time they have a guy with a swastika on his arm, the camera always hides the symbol so you only see the red band. I expected Hydra to be the focal point, but they really did go out of their way to distance the Nazis from Hydra. I mean, if they can still talk about killing Nazis and calling them Krauts and other terms, I don't see how that is any different than showing their flag that was used during the time period. It's similar to how in the movie The Patriot all the slaves are shown as happy to be on the farm, and all the British are evil, evil people. They were playing just a little too much with history.
And while Millar, Hitch, Brubaker and Epting get special thanks in the credits, no shout out to Mark Gruenwald, which was a shame.
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Steve and Peggy never go beyond a kiss, and that is all the way at the end trying to get into the bomber where we know Steve isn't coming back from. Thinking about it, all the Marvel films seem to do that, outside of Tony sleeping with Ricky Bobby's wife at the beginning of Iron Man. Here I thought they would have been closer to really hit home the idea that Steve is a man out of time. And I was kind of expecting Bucky to live to sync up with the Ultimate line, but the way he died seemed fine.
I was kind of surprised how few people Steve killed. I know at the beginning he says he doesn't want to kill anyone, but he seemed to only kill 5 people by my count: the two bikers when he pulled the potato grenade, two guys he kicked out of the plane, and the one guy he threw the knife at while trying to remove the atom bombs. I kind of expected more because he is fighting a war, no need to make it that clean (and in that instance, the scene where the Hydra guy gets chopped up by the propeller, that was probably the most gruesome part of the film
it is clear that this Cap was heavily influenced by Brubaker's run and Ultimates more than anything else
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I can see the Millar stuff, but Brubaker seemed to have very little. Bucky was a soldier well before Brubaker got his hands on him, he just made him more covert and sneaky.
All that stuff with the cosmic cube? Waid did it beforehand as well. It's just Gruenwald was the Cap guy for 20 years.
I spent my vacation recently watching the second animated series, and I have to say I kinda wished they would do something completely different, because you can't get any better than the series was. They adapted stories straight out of the comics, they had long running plotlines, mature writing that did everything you could with the source material. Anything else will feel like a retread
April O'Neil -- She's got short red hair, a yellow shirt, black shorts, and sneakers! She's 16 (to be a peer to the Turtles) and learning to be a kunoichi (female ninja) from Splinter himself! Oh, and she's in no way "emo" like previous reports might've suggested. It's a big change, but it was better than bringing back Venus DeMilo for a female peer to the Turtles.
Man, April's going to go down in history as appealing to every known fetish to mankind.
(this also coming from after seeing that ridiculously hot April cosplayer from G4's Comic-Con coverage. Like, damn)
And to add to that....
Donatello (Rob Paulsen) -- He's still the techno geek we know and love! Like a real Ninja, he can use his environment to invent great things! He also has a slight crush on April. He uses the bo and it reveals a hidden yari blade!
Ew.
Double ew, in fact, as I admittedly wanted them to be a couple in the original series. This was way back before the concept physiology informed me of the horrors of such a relationship.
You know, I'm starting to think that Daniel Radcliffe would make a great Wolverine if he were locked in a gym for about ten years. The kid's tiny, and we don't have many short actors.
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My office door faces our retail counter at work and a customer just looked at me like I'm mentally deficient because I laughed real, real loud at that.
Goddamn it. I nearly spit iced tea all over my laptop.
Did I forget a couple?
Yes. The joke is that a huge number of actors are actually really short and really small. He just actually manages to look scrawny in addition to being .
Goddamn it. I nearly spit iced tea all over my laptop.
Did I forget a couple?
Yes. The joke is that a huge number of actors are actually really short and really small. He just actually manages to look scrawny in addition to being .
Also, he's shorter than the girl playing his girlfriend, the girl playing Hermoine, and Jon Stewart, and is shown standing next to all of them in the last movie and his Daily Show appearance.
I don't think we need more actors shorter than Jon Stewart. Besides, Peter Dinklage needs to be in more things.
Meanwhile I can't find Karen Gillan "cute" (attractive, yes) in part because in contrast to Hollywood's predilection for wee folk she's almost as tall as I am.
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Yeah...thats what I don't get.
Incredible Hulk, I understand. Might be a bit confusing for people if there are two Bruce Banners at the same time. But, if this new Incredible Hulk is like the old Incredible Hulk in theme, I'm willing to give it a shot.
AKA Jessica Jones is perfect.
Cloak & Dagger, in New Orleans? That...could work. It'll likely be a pilot that'll just be a one-shot movie deal.
Mockingbird? wtf is Loeb thinking now...? It'd make a lot more sense if Hawkeye was the one getting the series...
I still want to see a Power Pack cartoon.
And I think Luke Cage, Hero for Hire, would be the easiest to adapt to TV. Though at least he'll be appearing in AKA Jessica Jones.
Not sure if I'm glad that Loeb is no longer writing as many comics, or scared that he now has influence over their live-action/cartoon series...
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Marvel has turned the company around like no other.
But Hulk basically being 70's hulk? Sold. Sold like a mother fucker.
And Ms. Marvel being the successful, sexy friend still in the super hero game and Luke Cage could make AKA: Jessica Jones worth watching.
and Kung-Fu billionaire is a bit harder to sell versus "super powered private eye" and "strong bulletproof bodyguard"
Almost every character in that movie was just fantastic.
And there's clearly a market out there for spy and crime procedural stuff. I mean, that's like 90% of the USA Network's original programming, and it's worked out pretty well for them.
At best, we'll get something resembling Veronica Mars, and at worst, something like the old Birds of Prey tv show.
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On "Hulk and The Agents of SMASH"
It's an actual thing! Basically its an animated version of "The Incredible Hulks" down to the fact that...
http://www.halfshellheroes.com/2011/07/nickelodeons-tmnt-2012.html
I spent my vacation recently watching the second animated series, and I have to say I kinda wished they would do something completely different, because you can't get any better than the series was. They adapted stories straight out of the comics, they had long running plotlines, mature writing that did everything you could with the source material. Anything else will feel like a retread
and why are they calling all of the brains Kraang? I will say, I do like the idea of a diverse Foot Clan
Looks like Green Lantern was a bit of a box office aberration, after all.
The pacing felt a little off in the middle, too. Specifically, all the Howling Commando stuff. Due to how compressed everything was, when one of the Commandos die in what should have been a wrenching scene, it came off as a bit anti-climactic. Also, the plan to storm the big Hydra base at the end, was goofy as Hell.
Still, I felt like the actors all nailed their parts. Dominic Cooper's super-smarmy Howard Stark was a ton of fun, Toby Jones made a great sniveling Zola, Tucci's Erskine was fantastic (and I wish would have had more screentime) and Tommy Lee Jones was Tommy Lee Jones'in it up. Hayley Atwell also plays one of the more convincing hardass women in a comic book movie, though she didn't really get any quality action scenes, and Evans really managed to sell the idea that Steve Rogers is still a gangly little nice guy at heart.
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Edit: We Aussies don't have it yet, you lucky bastards.
Edit edit: Couldn't stop myself reading it. Not spoilery, just torturey.
But I probably won't catch the film until it hits DVD anyway.
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Still, the death of that character should be a really big deal in Captain America's story. And I just never got a sense that he and Cap were great friends. I mean, the movie tells you they are, but I don't feel like it shows you. Here's that character's arc:
-He saves a puny Steve Rogers from a beating, takes him out on a double date, and is then called to serve.
-He's captured by Hydra off-screen, motivating Steve to become a real soldier and hero, and is eventually rescued by Cap.
-He agrees to join Cap's Howling Commandos, saying he's not following Captain America, but Steve Rogers. This leads to a montage scene, showing the Howling Commandos wrecking the Red Skull's forces.
-He tries to dance with Peggy Carter, and is shot down, in a callback to the earlier double-date scene.
-Soon after, he leaves on a mission with Steve, where he's blasted out the side of a train by some anonymous Hydra goon, falling to his presumed death.
I understand that they had a lot of stuff to squeeze into two hours, but I just never really got the sense that the two were good buddies, and a few more scenes showing them in action, would have solved that. As is, it felt like they had very little chemistry, and the character existed as something of a cipher. He actually came off as more bland than the other, more eccentric members of the Howling Commandos, just because he had no major, defining characteristics.
Add all that to his oddly ignoble, unimportant death at the hands of a random stormtrooper, and it seemed to really make a major part of Cap's mythology, fall rather flat. I imagine it was done that way
to defy expectations and surprise any comic book fans in the crowd, but it left me a bit cold.
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Ahh I misread how you meant your first post about it. I get what you mean and yeah I think there could have been more development there.
edit: Crud, the link didn't go to the specific time in the vid. Skip to about the 4 minute point.
I really liked it, probably the 3rd best superhero movie behind Iron Man & Dark Knight. All the actors were spot on brilliant, probably the best cast to date. The chick playing Peggy is easily the best female character in a Marvel film, never really trying to be more than what she was, which easily surpasses Pepper and the Black Widow. The 3D scenes (saw it on 2D but you could tell which parts were 3D) kind of felt too out of the blue.
And I think my favorite line was "Go catch him! I can swim!" For some reason that was just a fun scene.
Now, there were two things I really didn't care for in the movie, but they weren't integral to the story. No one smoked! This is something that is kind of a big deal in a 1940's world, especially for soldiers in a bar and off duty. Steve wouldn't smoke, but I'm pretty sure 90% of everyone else would. It just really stood out, when you factor in they show beer like it ain't no thang. Another thing was how they went out of their way to not show Swastikas. The one time they have a guy with a swastika on his arm, the camera always hides the symbol so you only see the red band. I expected Hydra to be the focal point, but they really did go out of their way to distance the Nazis from Hydra. I mean, if they can still talk about killing Nazis and calling them Krauts and other terms, I don't see how that is any different than showing their flag that was used during the time period. It's similar to how in the movie The Patriot all the slaves are shown as happy to be on the farm, and all the British are evil, evil people. They were playing just a little too much with history.
And while Millar, Hitch, Brubaker and Epting get special thanks in the credits, no shout out to Mark Gruenwald, which was a shame.
Some plot specific things below:
I was kind of surprised how few people Steve killed. I know at the beginning he says he doesn't want to kill anyone, but he seemed to only kill 5 people by my count: the two bikers when he pulled the potato grenade, two guys he kicked out of the plane, and the one guy he threw the knife at while trying to remove the atom bombs. I kind of expected more because he is fighting a war, no need to make it that clean (and in that instance, the scene where the Hydra guy gets chopped up by the propeller, that was probably the most gruesome part of the film
All in all, a good movie, 8/10.
it is clear that this Cap was heavily influenced by Brubaker's run and Ultimates more than anything else
All that stuff with the cosmic cube? Waid did it beforehand as well. It's just Gruenwald was the Cap guy for 20 years.
Man, April's going to go down in history as appealing to every known fetish to mankind.
(this also coming from after seeing that ridiculously hot April cosplayer from G4's Comic-Con coverage. Like, damn)
And to add to that....
Ew.
Double ew, in fact, as I admittedly wanted them to be a couple in the original series. This was way back before the concept physiology informed me of the horrors of such a relationship.
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My office door faces our retail counter at work and a customer just looked at me like I'm mentally deficient because I laughed real, real loud at that.
Goddamn it. I nearly spit iced tea all over my laptop.
Did I forget a couple?
Maybe it will be good now?
Yes. The joke is that a huge number of actors are actually really short and really small. He just actually manages to look scrawny in addition to being .
Also, he's shorter than the girl playing his girlfriend, the girl playing Hermoine, and Jon Stewart, and is shown standing next to all of them in the last movie and his Daily Show appearance.
Meanwhile I can't find Karen Gillan "cute" (attractive, yes) in part because in contrast to Hollywood's predilection for wee folk she's almost as tall as I am.
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