I'm more dreading the eventual "DKR was way better than Avengers" and vice versa arguments. I mean it is fair to compare the two but they are completely different movies tonally. And yes I can safely assume that without watching either of them.
Could be a repeat of last year (X-Men) and Spider-man will come out of nowhere and be the best.
Yeah I have to say that my opinion of First Class worsens every time I watch it. Captain America is still my favorite of 2011.
I was going to post something similar. First Class is still very enjoyable, but it's a whole lot of style over substance. It feels a little bit campier every time I watch it, and not in a good way. Thor is my no. 1 from last year :-)
Yeah, I was watching First Class the other day and more and more things bug me about it.
I was a lot more critical about Thor and Cap when they came out, and I'm still critical about hte issues I have with them, but my opinion of them hasn't dropped.
First Class was still great though: especially the Magneto hunting Nazi's part.
I think First Class was really helped by super low expectations and some great acting.
Great acting by the main characters; the actresses who played Mystique and Emma Frost were awful. Bacon seems to impress me less and less with each viewing too.
Eww Captain America was horrible. By my comment I meant First Class was the bestest. I mentioned this earlier in the thread but it looked like the characters in Captain America were just pasted into the movie. Thor managed to make another world look more realistic then scene in hallway #1 in Captain America.
All opinions of course and it's not like X-Men was without technical problems. As with all the X films a lot of the mutant powers are sketchy in their execution at best.
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Captain America seemed a bit rushed and skimpy, and seemed to rush to get as much fan service included as possible. Frankly, I think a Captain America in the modern world is going to be hard to pull off; I would much rather the sequel return to the World War 2 backdrop.
First Class impressed me by how much the creators seemed to enjoy the source material. Its like Fox said "Fuck it, we're just making this movie to keep it away from Disney", all the while the director was given a heck of a lot of free reign considering Fox's track record.
Though it is too bad that the Marvel properties aren't under one roof. How cool would it be to see an X-Men vs Avengers movie?
Marvel is having a hard enough time pushing out sequels to all their movies alongside putting out new movies in the properties they DO have. I'd hate to see how overworked they'd get if they had to worry about Fantastic Four, X-Men and Spider-Man movies too.
Marvel is having a hard enough time pushing out sequels to all their movies alongside putting out new movies in the properties they DO have. I'd hate to see how overworked they'd get if they had to worry about Fantastic Four, X-Men and Spider-Man movies too.
Hire more people?
Spider-Man is a walking moneybag, I'm sure it'd be worth it
We used to think an Avengers movie was impossible
How much more of a stretch would it be to get Spidey and Wolverine in on it?
I think First Class was really helped by super low expectations and some great acting.
Great acting by the main characters; the actresses who played Mystique and Emma Frost were awful. Bacon seems to impress me less and less with each viewing too.
Marvel is having a hard enough time pushing out sequels to all their movies alongside putting out new movies in the properties they DO have. I'd hate to see how overworked they'd get if they had to worry about Fantastic Four, X-Men and Spider-Man movies too.
Hire more people?
Spider-Man is a walking moneybag, I'm sure it'd be worth it
We used to think an Avengers movie was impossible
How much more of a stretch would it be to get Spidey and Wolverine in on it?
Grant me this one wish, Disney
Ain't no way in hell Fox/Sony are letting X-Men/Spider-Man go. Daredevil and Ghost Rider should be easy acquisitions, and Fantastic Four too if the upcoming reboot keeps stalling, but X-Men and Spider-Man seem to still be going strong.
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I think First Class was really helped by super low expectations and some great acting.
Great acting by the main characters; the actresses who played Mystique and Emma Frost were awful. Bacon seems to impress me less and less with each viewing too.
You take that back about Jennifer Lawrence.
I will fight you.
Stand down, Centi. You can't win this one.
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I think First Class was really helped by super low expectations and some great acting.
Great acting by the main characters; the actresses who played Mystique and Emma Frost were awful. Bacon seems to impress me less and less with each viewing too.
You take that back about Jennifer Lawrence.
I will fight you.
When I think about Mystique, co-dependent angsty teenage doormat is exactly the LAST thing that comes to mind. She was terrible.
January Jones nailed Emma pretty well, even if the script relegated her to henchwoman #1 instead of the actively scheming White Queen we know.
When I think about Mystique, co-dependent angsty teenage doormat is exactly the LAST thing that comes to mind. She was terrible.
Well, at that point she's not really Mystique, anymore than groovy poon-hound Charles, is Professor X.
I will say, I thought her character arc basically made no sense.
Somewhere around the point where she gets mad at Xavier, her surrogate brother of at least a decade or two, for not wanting to look at her when she's naked, and the film framing it as though she's right, I thought to myself, "This is pretty dumb."
Really, I think everyone came out of that movie wishing for more of Fassbender just doing cool Magneto shit, and less of everything else.
When I think about Mystique, co-dependent angsty teenage doormat is exactly the LAST thing that comes to mind. She was terrible.
Well, at that point she's not really Mystique, anymore than groovy poon-hound Charles, is Professor X.
I will say, I thought her character arc basically made no sense.
Somewhere around the point where she gets mad at Xavier, her surrogate brother of at least a decade or two, for not wanting to look at her when she's naked, and the film framing it as though she's right, I thought to myself, "This is pretty dumb."
Really, I think everyone came out of that movie wishing for more of Fassbender just doing cool Magneto shit, and less of everything else.
Well First Class 2 is focusing on Magneto and has pretty much the whole production team as well as Fassbender returning
I got to see a preview of The Iron Man Part III on Friday morning and I had to wait this long to write what I thought about it. Partly because my mom was using the computer to fight with someone who kept posting pictures of lactating Asian chicks on her Etsy page’s comment thread, and also because the first two times I tried writing about Iron Man Part III all I did was type FUCK over and over again. The second time, I bolded it.
It gets better from there.
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When I think about Mystique, co-dependent angsty teenage doormat is exactly the LAST thing that comes to mind. She was terrible.
Well, at that point she's not really Mystique, anymore than groovy poon-hound Charles, is Professor X.
I will say, I thought her character arc basically made no sense.
Somewhere around the point where she gets mad at Xavier, her surrogate brother of at least a decade or two, for not wanting to look at her when she's naked, and the film framing it as though she's right, I thought to myself, "This is pretty dumb."
Really, I think everyone came out of that movie wishing for more of Fassbender just doing cool Magneto shit, and less of everything else.
I know some of you are being super pious about it, so I will put my SPOILER-FREE mini-review behind spoiler tags. Needless to say, the movie is pretty great, so I'm only going to list my two minor issues.
My biggest gripe was that the little bits at the very beginning that get you up to speed on what the characters have been doing are really bad/cliched. Particularly so for poor Hawkeye and Black Widow, who haven't at all been established as characters yet but still get the same in medias res introductions and kind of flounder for the first part of the movie because of it.
But those scenes take up maybe 20 minutes at the most, and the rest of the movie is out-and-out fantastic. And it just gets better the longer it goes on.
And if I could levy another tiny complaint, it's that there are quite a few Whedon-y joke dialogue bits, and while some of them are pretty damn funny, a lot of others land with a thud just because they're being pumped out so rapidly.
Eww Captain America was horrible. By my comment I meant First Class was the bestest. I mentioned this earlier in the thread but it looked like the characters in Captain America were just pasted into the movie. Thor managed to make another world look more realistic then scene in hallway #1 in Captain America.
All opinions of course and it's not like X-Men was without technical problems. As with all the X films a lot of the mutant powers are sketchy in their execution at best.
I think your issue with Cap might be completely yours. There was no such issue for me and I've never heard anybody say anything similar.
Hadji, is it true there are 2 after-credits scenes?
If so god dammit tell me the last one I can't find any account of it anywhere.
The mid-credits one I have found and it is awesome.
I honestly bolted after the mid-credits scene. There probably was another one. The theater manager specifically told us to stay around after the credits. But I have to be up in 6 hours for work, and we had to spend 3 hours waiting at the theater (which didn't even come close to filling up even though there were 2 or 3 times as many passes in circulation as there were seats), so we were pretty eager to bolt.
If there was another, the only real dangly bits of plot involved the world security council, led by Powers Boothe.
I'll likely be seeing it once or twice more when it comes out next week, and I think it's officially released in the UK on Friday, so we should know soon.
why has everyone who has seen the movie left before the credits are over
WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT
Because it's a 3 hour movie that I waited in line 3 hours to see, and an hour drive from my house, and I had already been awake for like 15 or 16 hours at that point.
I'm not going to sit through another 20 minutes of credits to see if Powers Boothe and Sam Jackson talk in riddles for 30 seconds.
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It's 3 hours long? Nice.
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Eww Captain America was horrible. By my comment I meant First Class was the bestest. I mentioned this earlier in the thread but it looked like the characters in Captain America were just pasted into the movie. Thor managed to make another world look more realistic then scene in hallway #1 in Captain America.
All opinions of course and it's not like X-Men was without technical problems. As with all the X films a lot of the mutant powers are sketchy in their execution at best.
I think your issue with Cap might be completely yours. There was no such issue for me and I've never heard anybody say anything similar.
Fair enough I guess. Everything just looked so terrible in that movie to me. Definitely the worst of the three last year.
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It's only 2 1/2 hours[/pedant] and there was only the mid-credits scene, no post. Note though that there was a rumor spreading out of the premiere about filming one last scene (after the premiere) which I doubt would have been ready at this point. Take that as you will.
It's only 2 1/2 hours[/pedant] and there was only the mid-credits scene, no post. Note though that there was a rumor spreading out of the premiere about filming one last scene (after the premiere) which I doubt would have been ready at this point. Take that as you will.
I'm thinking that rumored last scene is something for the dvd/blu-ray version.
I'm not too happy about the human rights record of China. Plus, if the film is being made for marketing in China, then I feel like the film is going to be very much sanitized with respect to being viewed in China.
Also, if any super hero epitomizes capitalist, democratic-oriented America, I think Iron Man does. Yes, even more than Captain America.
Then again, it would be anti-freedom to say someone can't invest in a film because of their views.
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I was going to post something similar. First Class is still very enjoyable, but it's a whole lot of style over substance. It feels a little bit campier every time I watch it, and not in a good way. Thor is my no. 1 from last year :-)
I was a lot more critical about Thor and Cap when they came out, and I'm still critical about hte issues I have with them, but my opinion of them hasn't dropped.
First Class was still great though: especially the Magneto hunting Nazi's part.
In great detail :winky:
Great acting by the main characters; the actresses who played Mystique and Emma Frost were awful. Bacon seems to impress me less and less with each viewing too.
All opinions of course and it's not like X-Men was without technical problems. As with all the X films a lot of the mutant powers are sketchy in their execution at best.
First Class impressed me by how much the creators seemed to enjoy the source material. Its like Fox said "Fuck it, we're just making this movie to keep it away from Disney", all the while the director was given a heck of a lot of free reign considering Fox's track record.
Though it is too bad that the Marvel properties aren't under one roof. How cool would it be to see an X-Men vs Avengers movie?
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Hire more people?
Spider-Man is a walking moneybag, I'm sure it'd be worth it
We used to think an Avengers movie was impossible
How much more of a stretch would it be to get Spidey and Wolverine in on it?
Grant me this one wish, Disney
You take that back about Jennifer Lawrence.
I will fight you.
Ain't no way in hell Fox/Sony are letting X-Men/Spider-Man go. Daredevil and Ghost Rider should be easy acquisitions, and Fantastic Four too if the upcoming reboot keeps stalling, but X-Men and Spider-Man seem to still be going strong.
Stand down, Centi. You can't win this one.
When I think about Mystique, co-dependent angsty teenage doormat is exactly the LAST thing that comes to mind. She was terrible.
January Jones nailed Emma pretty well, even if the script relegated her to henchwoman #1 instead of the actively scheming White Queen we know.
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The only reason I don't have business cards with that written on them is just a matter of piss-poor planning.
Well, at that point she's not really Mystique, anymore than groovy poon-hound Charles, is Professor X.
I will say, I thought her character arc basically made no sense.
Somewhere around the point where she gets mad at Xavier, her surrogate brother of at least a decade or two, for not wanting to look at her when she's naked, and the film framing it as though she's right, I thought to myself, "This is pretty dumb."
Really, I think everyone came out of that movie wishing for more of Fassbender just doing cool Magneto shit, and less of everything else.
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Oh. Oh man. Saw a link to this amazing review of Avengers on Twitter.
It gets better from there.
Pretty much. Fuck Fassbender was good.
I know some of you are being super pious about it, so I will put my SPOILER-FREE mini-review behind spoiler tags. Needless to say, the movie is pretty great, so I'm only going to list my two minor issues.
But those scenes take up maybe 20 minutes at the most, and the rest of the movie is out-and-out fantastic. And it just gets better the longer it goes on.
And if I could levy another tiny complaint, it's that there are quite a few Whedon-y joke dialogue bits, and while some of them are pretty damn funny, a lot of others land with a thud just because they're being pumped out so rapidly.
If so god dammit tell me the last one I can't find any account of it anywhere.
The mid-credits one I have found and it is awesome.
I think your issue with Cap might be completely yours. There was no such issue for me and I've never heard anybody say anything similar.
I honestly bolted after the mid-credits scene. There probably was another one. The theater manager specifically told us to stay around after the credits. But I have to be up in 6 hours for work, and we had to spend 3 hours waiting at the theater (which didn't even come close to filling up even though there were 2 or 3 times as many passes in circulation as there were seats), so we were pretty eager to bolt.
If there was another, the only real dangly bits of plot involved the world security council, led by Powers Boothe.
I'll likely be seeing it once or twice more when it comes out next week, and I think it's officially released in the UK on Friday, so we should know soon.
why has everyone who has seen the movie left before the credits are over
WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT
I AM GOING TO BE INDIGNANTLY ANGRY OVER A MOVIE THAT HASN'T EVEN OFFICIALLY COME OUT YET AND NO ONE CAN STOP ME
Because it's a 3 hour movie that I waited in line 3 hours to see, and an hour drive from my house, and I had already been awake for like 15 or 16 hours at that point.
I'm not going to sit through another 20 minutes of credits to see if Powers Boothe and Sam Jackson talk in riddles for 30 seconds.
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Fair enough I guess. Everything just looked so terrible in that movie to me. Definitely the worst of the three last year.
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I'm thinking that rumored last scene is something for the dvd/blu-ray version.
I'm not too happy about the human rights record of China. Plus, if the film is being made for marketing in China, then I feel like the film is going to be very much sanitized with respect to being viewed in China.
Also, if any super hero epitomizes capitalist, democratic-oriented America, I think Iron Man does. Yes, even more than Captain America.
Then again, it would be anti-freedom to say someone can't invest in a film because of their views.
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