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  • TheLawinatorTheLawinator Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Monkeyfeet wrote: »
    TankHammer wrote: »
    Monkeyfeet wrote: »
    I wouldn't give a fuck if someone married their dog. I don't see how it impacts my life in any way

    Sexual abuse of children and animals doesn't normally affect you directly, but it's still bad.

    Which is why animals and children cannot give consent.

    Which is why same-sex marriages will not slippery-slope into bestiality and pedophilia!


    I could see it potentially leading to polygamy somewhere in the future, but that's all consenting adults and if they're happy or at least pretending to be happy like many marriages, I don't see how that isn't also just as valid.

    Woah who said anything about sexual abuse. I'm just saying if they got married I wouldn't care.

    That opens a whole other can of worms, the assumption that marriages are innately sexual.

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  • TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Monkeyfeet wrote: »
    TankHammer wrote: »
    Monkeyfeet wrote: »
    I wouldn't give a fuck if someone married their dog. I don't see how it impacts my life in any way

    Sexual abuse of children and animals doesn't normally affect you directly, but it's still bad.

    Which is why animals and children cannot give consent.

    Which is why same-sex marriages will not slippery-slope into bestiality and pedophilia!


    I could see it potentially leading to polygamy somewhere in the future, but that's all consenting adults and if they're happy or at least pretending to be happy like many marriages, I don't see how that isn't also just as valid.

    Woah who said anything about sexual abuse. I'm just saying if they got married I wouldn't care.

    Marriage ain't official until it's consummated so either sign this annulment or fuck that dog so we can lock you up. Morality police ain't got all day!

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  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    TankHammer wrote: »
    Monkeyfeet wrote: »
    I wouldn't give a fuck if someone married their dog. I don't see how it impacts my life in any way

    Sexual abuse of children and animals doesn't normally affect you directly, but it's still bad.

    Which is why animals and children cannot give consent.

    Which is why same-sex marriages will not slippery-slope into bestiality and pedophilia!


    I could see it potentially leading to polygamy somewhere in the future, but that's all consenting adults and if they're happy or at least pretending to be happy like many marriages, I don't see how that isn't also just as valid.

    You don't need a slippery-slope analogy to illustrate problems polygamy can lead to. Keeping marriage between two people is in society's best interest.

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  • MysstMysst King Monkey of Hedonism IslandRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    is it?

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  • KochikensKochikens Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    TankHammer wrote: »
    Was Tesla asexual or did he elect to abstain from sex?

    Because if Tesla supports it, I support it. Otherwise I'll need to meet a real-life asexual person before I can form a generalization about it.

    sorry I don't know much about Tesla

    but

    here, wikipedia says it better (I'd search other sites but I'm at work and don't want to end up in porn land)
    Asexuality, in its broadest sense, is the lack of sexual attraction and the lack of interest in and desire for sex. Asexuality is distinct from abstention from sexual activity and from celibacy, which are behavioral; the latter is usually for a religious reason. A sexual orientation, unlike a behavior, is believed to be "enduring". Some asexuals do have sex, despite lacking a desire for it.

    aka if tesla never ever fucked anyone or showed any desire to and it wasn't because of religious reasons, if he didn't fuck anyone because he just didn't give a shit, then yeah, he was probably asexual. Please see: Morrissey
    Morrissey, Throughout much of his career, he maintained in interviews that he was asexual and celibate. Johnny Marr stated in a 1984 interview that "Morrissey doesn't participate in sex at the moment and hasn't done so for a while, he's had a lot of girlfriends in the past and quite a few men friends." In 1986, Morrissey claimed that he was "dramatically, supernaturally, non-sexual." In a 1994 interview, he claimed that "sex is actually never in my life," and as such, he argued that "I have no sexuality."

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  • TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Butters wrote: »
    TankHammer wrote: »
    Monkeyfeet wrote: »
    I wouldn't give a fuck if someone married their dog. I don't see how it impacts my life in any way

    Sexual abuse of children and animals doesn't normally affect you directly, but it's still bad.

    Which is why animals and children cannot give consent.

    Which is why same-sex marriages will not slippery-slope into bestiality and pedophilia!


    I could see it potentially leading to polygamy somewhere in the future, but that's all consenting adults and if they're happy or at least pretending to be happy like many marriages, I don't see how that isn't also just as valid.

    You don't need a slippery-slope analogy to illustrate problems polygamy can lead to. Keeping marriage between two people is in society's best interest.

    Yeah, but I struggle to define when the law should step in and prevent something or when we should let people figure out for themselves that it was a bad idea. I mean, they're consenting adults. They aren't hurting anyone else. The only part I could actually see needing government intervention is when children are involved.

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  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Mysst wrote: »
    is it?

    Communities that practice or have practiced polygamy have shown histories of spousal abuse and alienation of some of the unmarried.
    TankHammer wrote: »
    Yeah, but I struggle to define when the law should step in and prevent something or when we should let people figure out for themselves that it was a bad idea. I mean, they're consenting adults. They aren't hurting anyone else.

    Not saying they can't have gang bangs just saying they shouldn't marry. Marriage carries a lot of legal ramifications with it and not just if there's children. If you think divorces and squabbles over inheritance are messy as it is what do you think it would be like in the case of one guy with 3 wives, each with their own kids, and half of them don't like each other?

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  • EdcrabEdcrab Actually a hack Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Asexuals are up to 1% of the population, right? I knew a guy who identified as asexual once, not that that was something you learn instantly in casual conversation

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Butters wrote: »
    Mysst wrote: »
    is it?

    Communities that practice or have practiced polygamy have shown histories of spousal abuse and alienation of some of the unmarried.

    That said, that might be correlation, not cause. After all, go back a century and spousal abuse/alienation of the un-married is pretty much universal in most places.

    I think polygamy is one of these things where it can be symptomatic of both a relatively primitive but also a relatively advanced culture. Something that you get rid of to prevent abuse but then re-allow because there is consensus that people should have the freedom to engage in polygamy if they want, and there isn't a threat of people being coerced into it.

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  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Polygamy is directly related to alienation it's not just correlative. When a few Mormon elders start hoarding all the wives for themselves it forces younger males to leave the community if they wish to start a family of their own.

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  • DouglasDouglas PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    my workplace is subtly homophobic

    i'm not gay, but it still bothers me

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  • TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Butters wrote: »
    TankHammer wrote: »
    Yeah, but I struggle to define when the law should step in and prevent something or when we should let people figure out for themselves that it was a bad idea. I mean, they're consenting adults. They aren't hurting anyone else.

    Not saying they can't have gang bangs just saying they shouldn't marry. Marriage carries a lot of legal ramifications with it and not just if there's children. If you think divorces and squabbles over inheritance are messy as it is what do you think it would be like in the case of one guy with 3 wives, each with their own kids, and half of them don't like each other?

    Yeah, I can go with what you're saying here. Legal ramifications are exactly the kind of framing something like the banning of a polygamy needs to back it up.

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  • KochikensKochikens Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Edcrab wrote: »
    Asexuals are up to 1% of the population, right? I knew a guy who identified as asexual once, not that that was something you learn instantly in casual conversation

    yup

    It's not really a big deal
    you just don't really care for having sex
    but everyone is different

    I know a lot of asexuals. I know asexual genderqueers and queers and asexual ftms and asexual heteroromantic cisgendered people. I know some who have had sex and do have sex and some who jerk off and some who don't and some who draw a prolific amount of pornography
    how you choose to express their gender or sexual identity is up to you. If you express your gender in a way that feels right to you, yay. There is no way to be a personal gender. It can change over time. It's up to you to decide who you are yaaaayyY~~~

    its just a big fun mix bag of identities outside of hey I'm straight or gay or a man or a woman
    there are boys who paint their nails who are still boys and there are boys with vaginas who are still boys and there are girls with penises and girls who play sports yaaaay queers and non gender binary individuals do whatever feels best

    i'm just rambling now
    because I'm waiting for them to fix the cooling here at work and getting orange all over my hands
    if anyone has any questions PM me because there has been a lot of bad representation on this forum concerning certain topics and I'm going to get to working and washing my hands now

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  • TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I have never eaten from a Chick-Fil-A and while I now live in the American South where they are plentiful I still will not eat their allegedly-tasty sandwiches because they are a homophobic company.

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  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited May 2011
    TankHammer wrote: »
    I have never eaten from a Chick-Fil-A and while I now live in the American South where they are plentiful I still will not eat their allegedly-tasty sandwiches because they are a homophobic company.

    :^:

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  • DuxDux A host to DarknessRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Kochikens wrote: »
    I find it fascinating(aka horrifying) that despite becoming more accepting of things like homosexuality the majority of people are still unaware of or mocking of people who fall outside of the gender expression or sexuality binary. A friend of mine just finished up a gender and sexuality class in University and they touched on asexuals on the last day of class and it was pretty much met with laughter and scorn and mockery.
    This is new to me and I find it odd and sad, partly because, well, it's so closed-minded and partly because I'm asexual myself. Not that it would be much of a problem generally, seeing that it's not something that comes up often, if ever, but still.

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  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    TankHammer wrote: »
    I have never eaten from a Chick-Fil-A and while I now live in the American South where they are plentiful I still will not eat their allegedly-tasty sandwiches because they are a homophobic company.

    Their chicken is pretty good but you can do better especially in the South.

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  • LiiyaLiiya Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    my workplace is subtly homophobic

    i'm not gay, but it still bothers me

    Mine too, you'd think with many of the best florists being gay men that people in the industry would be more okay with it.

    But nope. Though I imagine it could be far worse.

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  • facetiousfacetious a wit so dry it shits sandRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    You know who was super gay?

    Alexander Hamilton.

    Have you read his letters to John Laurens?

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  • TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Butters wrote: »
    TankHammer wrote: »
    I have never eaten from a Chick-Fil-A and while I now live in the American South where they are plentiful I still will not eat their allegedly-tasty sandwiches because they are a homophobic company.

    Their chicken is pretty good but you can do better especially in the South.

    Yeah, I thank the universe that I still have Popeye's. I mean, he's a sailor. No way he hasn't banged a deckhand or 3 on one of those long, lonely nights.

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  • LednehLedneh shinesquawk Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Isn't chick-fil-a a bit like In 'n' Out? Legendary in areas that don't have it, kinda meh in areas that do?


    More topic-relevantly, I never considered that asexuality was really a thing you could identify with or even readily define. I mean hell, I enjoy sexytimes as much as the next horny dude, but I decided a long time ago that sex wasn't worth the sum effort as an end in itself (fun), but IS worth the effort as a means to an end (making babies)

    And since I want absolutely nothing to do with children ever ever god I hate the little fuckers, well, I dunno I guess that makes me 'asexual'?


    (edit) also, Popeye's rules, and before anyone else says otherwise, Raising Cane's chicken is fucking awful

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  • Cargo CultureCargo Culture Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    facetious wrote: »
    You know who was super gay?

    Alexander Hamilton.

    Have you read his letters to John Laurens?
    Cold in my professions, warm in my friendships, I wish, my Dear Laurens, it might be in my power, by action rather than words to convince you that I love you. I shall only tell you that 'til you bade us Adieu, I hardly knew the value you had taught my heart to set upon you. Indeed, my friend, it was not well done. You know the opinion I entertain of mankind, and how much it is my desire to preserve myself free from particular attachments, and to keep my happiness independent of the caprice of others. You should not have taken advantage of my sensibility to steal into my affections without my consent. But as you have done it,and as we are generally indulgent to those we love, I shall not scruple to pardon the fraud you have committed, on condition that for my sake, if not for your own, you will always continue to merit the partiality, which you have artfully instilled into me.

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  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited May 2011
    How is In 'n Out "meh" in the areas it actually serves?

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  • Big Red TieBig Red Tie beautiful clydesdale style feet too hot to trotRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    in n out is pretty great

    like, there aren't any in Hawaii

    but I still enjoy some in n out when i am in the mainland

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  • LednehLedneh shinesquawk Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I guess it's anecdotal, all I know is everywhere I've gone and talked to people round the west (and in my own opinion) their food is nothing special at all

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  • crwthcrwth THAT'S IT Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    in n out is terrific in any area

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  • Rogue LemonRogue Lemon AVATAR BOX TOO TIGHT, 50 YEARS DUNGEON!Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Having access to In-N-Out is one of the good things about living on the West coast. Also, our ocean is better. Suck it, Atlantic.

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  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Chic-Fil-A is roughly 7.5 times the size of In-N-Out so I think their similarities end at hyphens.

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  • LednehLedneh shinesquawk Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    your face is terrific in any area














    wait

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  • Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    people flipping out over fast food

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  • MysstMysst King Monkey of Hedonism IslandRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    in n out just opened up a place here and people waited in line for fucking hours to get at it

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  • crwthcrwth THAT'S IT Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    shank flippin out about me bangin' him in his sleep

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  • AnialosAnialos Collies are love, Collies are life! Shadowbrook ColliesRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    people flipping burgers over fast food

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  • Rogue LemonRogue Lemon AVATAR BOX TOO TIGHT, 50 YEARS DUNGEON!Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    people flipping out over fast food

    America is RIGHT up there in the thread title, sir. The only thing that gets us more revved up than fast food is inexplicably Christian fast food.

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  • The GeekThe Geek Oh-Two Crew, Omeganaut Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited May 2011
    Druhim wrote: »
    TankHammer wrote: »
    I have never eaten from a Chick-Fil-A and while I now live in the American South where they are plentiful I still will not eat their allegedly-tasty sandwiches because they are a homophobic company.

    :^:

    If I had known about this when I was down there in March, I would not have gone there.

    I'll make sure that I am avoiding it when I go back down next week.

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  • Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    crwth wrote: »
    shank flippin out about me bangin' him in his sleep

    noooo is ok

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  • Viscount IslandsViscount Islands [INSERT SoKo HERE] ...it was the summer of my lifeRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Ledneh wrote: »
    More topic-relevantly, I never considered that asexuality was really a thing you could identify with or even readily define. I mean hell, I enjoy sexytimes as much as the next horny dude, but I decided a long time ago that sex wasn't worth the sum effort as an end in itself (fun), but IS worth the effort as a means to an end (making babies)

    And since I want absolutely nothing to do with children ever ever god I hate the little fuckers, well, I dunno I guess that makes me 'asexual'?

    No, that just makes you a loser.

    Badum-tsch

    But really no I don't think that means you're asexual.

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  • TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    While I always try to remain respectful to people, when I hear a virgin claim that he is asexual and has no desire for sex, I cannot help but hypothesize that this is his coping mechanism because he, much like the 16-year-old me before I changed high schools, assumes he is never going to have sex anyway.

    I would never voice this in-person but it's a thought I have. Like I said, I've never gotten to know a self-identifying asexual.

    Maybe they truly have no desire for sexual closeness or maybe all the sex they've had (if they've had any) has been total rubbish. Maybe they've been heavily influenced by an overbearing morality system that emphasizes that sexual thoughts and actions are evil and dirty. Maybe they have a poor body-image and are protecting themselves from rejection by denying themselves the opportunity.

    This is all just my brain having a hard time processing asexuality into something I can empathize with.

    Sex is just such a diverse tapestry of potential experiences that being disinterested in it in any form strikes me as needing more explanation.

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  • The GeekThe Geek Oh-Two Crew, Omeganaut Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited May 2011
    TankHammer wrote: »
    Butters wrote: »
    TankHammer wrote: »
    I have never eaten from a Chick-Fil-A and while I now live in the American South where they are plentiful I still will not eat their allegedly-tasty sandwiches because they are a homophobic company.

    Their chicken is pretty good but you can do better especially in the South.

    Yeah, I thank the universe that I still have Popeye's. I mean, he's a sailor. No way he hasn't banged a deckhand or 3 on one of those long, lonely nights.

    I enjoyed Zaxby's quite a bit.

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  • Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I like sex a lot as a component of a relationship

    asexuality is one thing, and that is, of course, totally understandable, but if you are straight dude and you can't see how many options there are aside from "sex as procreation" and "sex as a pleasurable end in itself," I don't even

    my orgasm is like one-fiftieth the pleasure I derive from great sex

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