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In the last 3 years I have had 7 jobs. I was laid off from 1 the store closed. I quit 3, I quit the dollar tree because I hated the idea of having to get up at 6am on thanksgiving, and I quit the other two less then a month after staring because I got a job at a bank. I got fired from the bank because I kept forgetting to ask people to endorse their checks the same way they are made out. I was fired from my job as a door guard because I would move around the store I worked at and talk to people. The last job someone said something about me I don't know what because management would not tell me, I was suspended for three days then got fired by sms. So.. my question is what is wrong with me why can't I keep a job I am 28 shouldn't I be able to hold on to a job?
The #1 reason why most people don't succeed at their job is people skills. Being able to make friends, communicate, work with other people, listen, and provide something useful to the team are all things successful people have.
I am great with people its what I am good at! I have made many friends from all the places I worked I still keep in touch. I am still is school and have managed a 3.94 and I would have a 4.0 if I did not get fired the night before my final. I do talk alot. The other thing is I start working at 16 in Canada and was told I was a good worker. Now I work in South california I am told I am slow. Might it be cultural?
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Donovan PuppyfuckerA dagger in the dark isworth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered Userregular
edited May 2011
Maybe try sales if you're good with people? Car sales, phone sales, electronic goods sales, whatever interests you.
My last job was cellsales. I loved the sale part. I just can't stand the immorality of indirect dealers.
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kaliyamaLeft to find less-moderated foraRegistered Userregular
edited May 2011
The pattern of your speech - iffy spelling, no formatting, long run-on sentences, little punctuation or capitalization - makes me wonder if you're not very articulate in real life, which could have an effect on your career.
Also, I have seen other posters with your speech patterns who fall somewhere on the autism spectrum disorder line. Do you have lots of friends? Do you live at home? Have you been diagnosed at all with behavioral or learning disabilities?
I have been married for 6 years. I would say I have about 10 close friends and about 20 more that I talk to every other month or so. I am an articulate speaker I have won speech tournament.
As for my writing skills, I would say they are my biggist weakness. I moved many times in the first 5 gades and really never had a early grounding in writing. Also my Father was next to illiterate. I was diagnosed with dyslexia when I was a child. Also when I am not working I have a hard time sleeping and lack of sleep does tend to make my typing sloppy in strange ways I will type the wrong word all togeather sometimes. Like my thought gets a head of my hand and I will type a word that I want to go in the next sentence.
In the last 3 years I have had 7 jobs. I was laid off from 1 the store closed. I quit 3, I quit the dollar tree because I hated the idea of having to get up at 6am on thanksgiving, and I quit the other two less then a month after staring because I got a job at a bank. I got fired from the bank because I kept forgetting to ask people to endorse their checks the same way they are made out. I was fired from my job as a door guard because I would move around the store I worked at and talk to people. The last job someone said something about me I don't know what because management would not tell me, I was suspended for three days then got fired by sms. So.. my question is what is wrong with me why can't I keep a job I am 28 shouldn't I be able to hold on to a job?
The bolded parts sound like a work ethic issue, not a disorder. Plenty of people are lazy/don't give a shit about the parts of work they don't like, and those people tend to not keep jobs. And not counting the ones you quit/were laid off from you've only been forcibly removed from 3 jobs, which is kind of a lot but not some sort of crisis that must have a dramatic explanation.
I really do care about my jobs. I am never late I try to understand the jobs on all levels. It makes me crazy that I show up on time, dress for the job, intending on working on the things that I have been warned about, but ass soon as someone starts talking to me I forget about my post, the endorsement ect.. If thats a work ethic issue how do I fix it?
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ceresWhen the last moon is cast over the last star of morningAnd the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, ModeratorMod Emeritus
edited May 2011
You need to make the duties of your post, whatever those may be, a priority. Failing to make sure a check is endorsed is a fairly grievous error at a bank; to do so repeatedly should and will absolutely cost you your job. You absolutely need to make sure that you aren't neglecting your actual job just because you want to talk to someone. It doesn't mean you shouldn't be friendly, but you were hired to do a job and if it's that important to you to keep it you need to keep that in mind at all times.
I mean, you could have ADD or something, but we can't diagnose that and honestly this sounds to me like a discipline issue. Dressing nicely and caring won't make you good at your job; you actually need to focus. You cannot expect to keep a job otherwise.
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Well....like ceres said, it kinda sounds like you got fired simply because you weren't doing what your jobs entailed you to do. I mean if you're a door guard you have to stand there and guard the door, not socialize. And if people don't endorse their checks/do it wrong, it's your job as a bank teller to tell them to fix it. Otherwise the check isn't valid.
Being laid off is a stroke of bad luck and usually has nothing to do with you.
Quitting because you hated coming in on a certain day is a personal option.
I really do care about my jobs. I am never late I try to understand the jobs on all levels. It makes me crazy that I show up on time, dress for the job, intending on working on the things that I have been warned about, but ass soon as someone starts talking to me I forget about my post, the endorsement ect.. If thats a work ethic issue how do I fix it?
If you aren't able to focus on your job and focus on talking to people at the same time, you need to make one of them your priority and ignore the other. I think you know which one you need to ignore.
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ceresWhen the last moon is cast over the last star of morningAnd the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, ModeratorMod Emeritus
Quitting because you hated coming in on a certain day is a personal option.
This is important. This is discipline. If you want a day like Thanksgiving off, it's up to you to square that with your boss far enough in advance that s/he can find someone else. If you do that and s/he can't find anyone else, then you have to go if you want the job. If you don't want the job, that's your choice that you made as an adult. A lot of the things you're neglecting are part of being a responsible adult. If you had a job and decided you didn't want it, then that's why you don't have a job.
I realize that you're 28 and aren't a child anymore... but do you? It's harsh, but if you think you might have ADD or some other medical reason why you can't hold down a job, then you need to get that looked at ASAP, because right now you sound like kind of an irresponsible teenager. If you want employment and don't think you might have some sort of mental impairment, then you need to work on being a lot more responsible with your choices.
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kaliyamaLeft to find less-moderated foraRegistered Userregular
I have been married for 6 years. I would say I have about 10 close friends and about 20 more that I talk to every other month or so. I am an articulate speaker I have won speech tournament.
As for my writing skills, I would say they are my biggist weakness. I moved many times in the first 5 gades and really never had a early grounding in writing. Also my Father was next to illiterate. I was diagnosed with dyslexia when I was a child. Also when I am not working I have a hard time sleeping and lack of sleep does tend to make my typing sloppy in strange ways I will type the wrong word all togeather sometimes. Like my thought gets a head of my hand and I will type a word that I want to go in the next sentence.
Yeah, I think there's something going on. I would investigate your local resources for getting a behavioral or mental health assessment.
I really want to thank you all. just putting it out there and getting feed back, has help clarify things in my mind.
I have suspected I have had add for years, but I have not had the balls to look into it. so thank you all I will take this all to heart. And I quit for alot of reasons that was just the tipping point.
How interested are you in the success of the company? Are you socializing instead of listening when people are trying to train you? How well do you get along with authority figures? Sure you can be social and loved by almost everyone there, but if the boss hates you, then you're much more likely to get fired. It sounds like it *may* be ADD/ADHD, but I'm not sold on that option yet.
Do you try to help the company as much as possible, or do you try to do the minimum amount of work that will get you payed? Do you absolutely hate working 40 hours a week?
Because yeah, my guess isn't ADD, it's just that in some way (as Ceres said) you maybe haven't learned good work-related skills yet.
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SixCaches Tweets in the mainframe cyberhexRegistered Userregular
edited May 2011
Sounds more like you care more about socializing than actually doing your work. Not being late is good, but actually doing you're job while you're there is also important.
You might want to look for a job that is less public-facing than those you've previously held, or at least one that minimizes your contact with people, as that seems to be a serious distraction for you.
Q: You're obviously a good student with a GPA like that; how do you handle lectures/classes/seminars? Do you constantly socialize there too, or sit quietly and pay attention to the speaker?
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If you were a door guard, why did you follow someone around the store to talk? That's really bugging me.
It also seems you've got a lot of unskilled jobs under your belt there. Which could be a detriment as you look unreliable and lack no motivation. Consider learning a trade, or going back to school. The obvious advantage of doing those things other than getting skills or a degree is that it shows motivation and a drive to do what needs to be done. A huge plus in the working world. I don't think you'd be happy working minimum wage jobs for the rest of your life, right?
Edit: Ahh you're still in school, scratch that last part.
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Sounds more like you care more about socializing than actually doing your work. Not being late is good, but actually doing you're job while you're there is also important.
"Not being late" is not 'good'. It's minimum expected behavior. We shouldn't be giving the OP a pat on the back for some stuff he's supposed to do!
Showing up on time, dressing appropriately, and learning the job are not things to be proud of - they are the basic things you're supposed to do all the time. For people with no cognitive or physical challenges, they are not things to be proud of. They are just the basic things expected of every working adult.
I will +1 ceres here - th3thirdman, talk to a doctor and see if you have some actual issues with focus and attention. If not, take the advice and reorient your priorities.
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SixCaches Tweets in the mainframe cyberhexRegistered Userregular
Sounds more like you care more about socializing than actually doing your work. Not being late is good, but actually doing you're job while you're there is also important.
"Not being late" is not 'good'. It's minimum expected behavior. We shouldn't be giving the OP a pat on the back for some stuff he's supposed to do!
I meant it more in the sense of "it's all well and good," but I agree, it's part of your expected behavior.
You need to pay attention, and try hard to do your job to the best of your abilities, You need to remind yourself how important is to have a job, and work towards keeping it. Being lazy won't take you anywhere.
Also, try talking less and concentrate in your work, you are not being hired to make friends or to do lectures.
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Thats the thing I never shut up. A good thing when selling. A bad thing when working freight. I know you wll tell me to just shut up, but that only lasts to the first funny thought I have.
Another vote for ADD. My best friend growing up was brilliant, but never shut the fuck up and couldn't focus on one thing at a time (principally because she'd leave what she was doing to come tell you something far less important than what she was supposed to be doing), so she had a lot of trouble in school and work.
ADD isn't an excuse for chronically being unable to hold a job. Have you considered the possibility that you are extremely lazy, disrespectful, and/or incompetent and need to get your f*cking life in order? I say that in the nicest way possible, because it's what everything you've said seems to lead up to.
I did had a phone meeting on monday just asking how I liked the new employee on tuesday I got a txt saying I was fired. I found out after the fact that some one said I threatend them I NEVER would do that.
Thats the thing I never shut up. A good thing when selling. A bad thing when working freight. I know you wll tell me to just shut up, but that only lasts to the first funny thought I have.
Okay, I'll bite. Just shut your mouth and stop talking.
I know it's hard. I was always the class clown in school. I was always the witty and funny kid that everyone loved to be around.
But here's a secret: most people don't like the sound of your voice as much as you do. I don't know your religious beliefs, but most people can agree that the book of Proverbs has...some good proverbs in it. So here you go:
"Even fools are thought wise when they keep silent; with their mouths shut, they seem intelligent." (Prov. 17:28)
and just a few verses later
"Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions." (Prov 18:2)
How I learned to shut up? I saw people that were very similar to me, and I saw how people avoided them and didn't want to be around them because they couldn't get in a word edgewise. I realized it was very selfish to talk all the time, and that I would be a better friend if I would shut up once in a while and let them talk. Although I think myself brilliant, every single one of my ideas is still not better than every single one of theirs.
Well, I can tell you for a fact that everyone here avoids "the talker." And it may seriously be a detriment to your work ethic, and how your peers view you. Problem is, if your peers view you as something, chances are your boss views you worse.
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Also it's possible that something you said completely innocently or in jest came off the wrong way.
Like, "Ha ha, you're great, I think I might follow you home."
You said you were suspended from that job before you were fired. Why were you suspended?
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ceresWhen the last moon is cast over the last star of morningAnd the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, ModeratorMod Emeritus
edited May 2011
I've noticed that sometimes people who just TALK often seem to just open their mouths and let words fall out, and half the time don't even know or remember what those words are.
All we can do is identify the behaviors you mention. The really important thing here that we CAN tell you is that you behave incredibly irresponsibly in seemingly any job you are given, and you say whatever comes into your head as soon as it gets there. As long as you do these things you will not be able to keep a job. It's pretty much up to you from here to work to fix it and/or go to a doctor who may be able to give you medication or advice.
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th3thirdman, you say you have a hard time sleeping. Maybe you should talk to your doctor about anti-depressants or something. Lack of sleep can cause a lot of bad things to your personality and ability to learn/understand certain tasks.
I had an issue where I couldn't sleep for a few months. I got a low-dose anti-depressant and I can literally sleep like a champ almost every night. It does wonders on everything you do.
There are 6 types of ADD/ADHD. If you have a tendency to not stop moving about, whether it be sitting down for dinner or just staying put in general, like you have some sort of twitch that you can't stop, that's ground for ADHD. If you're able to sit still but your mind is all over the place, that's regular ADD and is harder to spot.
ADHD has all the same symptoms of ADD only with the added outward hyperactivity in how you move. ADD is just an internal thing in the mind, but sometimes that can be much worse.
I found out recently I had Overfocused/rigid-thinking ADHD back in March; I had always been taking something for it since the 6th grade, but I had no idea there was more than one type. After trying many options, I discovered I needed to pair an anti-depressant with my adderal in order to become like everyone else, and man the difference has been life changing.
For the first time in my life I was able to think clearly for a change, not constantly be caught in a negative loop though cycle because of my overactive frontal lobes, and could actually start using common fucking sense. In short, slowing my brain down actually makes me quicker on my feet and better in pretty much every aspect of life. It's incredible.
The only sure-fire way to determine if you have ADD/ADHD is to get a SPECT scan to detect your brain activity. If you have the money i'd say go for it, it could be life changing.
There are 6 types of ADD/ADHD. If you have a tendency to not stop moving about, whether it be sitting down for dinner or just staying put in general, like you have some sort of twitch that you can't stop, that's ground for ADHD. If you're able to sit still but your mind is all over the place, that's regular ADD and is harder to spot.
ADHD has all the same symptoms of ADD only with the added outward hyperactivity in how you move. ADD is just an internal thing in the mind, but sometimes that can be much worse.
I found out recently I had Overfocused/rigid-thinking ADHD back in March; I had always been taking something for it since the 6th grade, but I had no idea there was more than one type. After trying many options, I discovered I needed to pair an anti-depressant with my adderal in order to become like everyone else, and man the difference has been life changing.
For the first time in my life I was able to think clearly for a change, not constantly be caught in a negative loop though cycle because of my overactive frontal lobes, and could actually start using common fucking sense. In short, slowing my brain down actually makes me quicker on my feet and better in pretty much every aspect of life. It's incredible.
The only sure-fire way to determine if you have ADD/ADHD is to get a SPECT scan to detect your brain activity. If you have the money i'd say go for it, it could be life changing.
IANAD, but none of this is backed by current medical research or data. It may be the front-running medical advance ADD patients are waiting for, but it isn't verified or recommended by the medical community yet.
There seems to be some unwarranted hostility towards the OP. Even if he is just simply immature in his employment situations, that doesn't make him a terrible person or something. He's just progressing at a different rate than others. He obviously has the awareness and the will to change, so why react with hostility?
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Also, I have seen other posters with your speech patterns who fall somewhere on the autism spectrum disorder line. Do you have lots of friends? Do you live at home? Have you been diagnosed at all with behavioral or learning disabilities?
As for my writing skills, I would say they are my biggist weakness. I moved many times in the first 5 gades and really never had a early grounding in writing. Also my Father was next to illiterate. I was diagnosed with dyslexia when I was a child. Also when I am not working I have a hard time sleeping and lack of sleep does tend to make my typing sloppy in strange ways I will type the wrong word all togeather sometimes. Like my thought gets a head of my hand and I will type a word that I want to go in the next sentence.
The bolded parts sound like a work ethic issue, not a disorder. Plenty of people are lazy/don't give a shit about the parts of work they don't like, and those people tend to not keep jobs. And not counting the ones you quit/were laid off from you've only been forcibly removed from 3 jobs, which is kind of a lot but not some sort of crisis that must have a dramatic explanation.
I mean, you could have ADD or something, but we can't diagnose that and honestly this sounds to me like a discipline issue. Dressing nicely and caring won't make you good at your job; you actually need to focus. You cannot expect to keep a job otherwise.
Being laid off is a stroke of bad luck and usually has nothing to do with you.
Quitting because you hated coming in on a certain day is a personal option.
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If you aren't able to focus on your job and focus on talking to people at the same time, you need to make one of them your priority and ignore the other. I think you know which one you need to ignore.
This is important. This is discipline. If you want a day like Thanksgiving off, it's up to you to square that with your boss far enough in advance that s/he can find someone else. If you do that and s/he can't find anyone else, then you have to go if you want the job. If you don't want the job, that's your choice that you made as an adult. A lot of the things you're neglecting are part of being a responsible adult. If you had a job and decided you didn't want it, then that's why you don't have a job.
I realize that you're 28 and aren't a child anymore... but do you? It's harsh, but if you think you might have ADD or some other medical reason why you can't hold down a job, then you need to get that looked at ASAP, because right now you sound like kind of an irresponsible teenager. If you want employment and don't think you might have some sort of mental impairment, then you need to work on being a lot more responsible with your choices.
Yeah, I think there's something going on. I would investigate your local resources for getting a behavioral or mental health assessment.
I have suspected I have had add for years, but I have not had the balls to look into it. so thank you all I will take this all to heart. And I quit for alot of reasons that was just the tipping point.
Do you try to help the company as much as possible, or do you try to do the minimum amount of work that will get you payed? Do you absolutely hate working 40 hours a week?
Because yeah, my guess isn't ADD, it's just that in some way (as Ceres said) you maybe haven't learned good work-related skills yet.
Q: You're obviously a good student with a GPA like that; how do you handle lectures/classes/seminars? Do you constantly socialize there too, or sit quietly and pay attention to the speaker?
It also seems you've got a lot of unskilled jobs under your belt there. Which could be a detriment as you look unreliable and lack no motivation. Consider learning a trade, or going back to school. The obvious advantage of doing those things other than getting skills or a degree is that it shows motivation and a drive to do what needs to be done. A huge plus in the working world. I don't think you'd be happy working minimum wage jobs for the rest of your life, right?
Edit: Ahh you're still in school, scratch that last part.
"Not being late" is not 'good'. It's minimum expected behavior. We shouldn't be giving the OP a pat on the back for some stuff he's supposed to do!
Showing up on time, dressing appropriately, and learning the job are not things to be proud of - they are the basic things you're supposed to do all the time. For people with no cognitive or physical challenges, they are not things to be proud of. They are just the basic things expected of every working adult.
I will +1 ceres here - th3thirdman, talk to a doctor and see if you have some actual issues with focus and attention. If not, take the advice and reorient your priorities.
I meant it more in the sense of "it's all well and good," but I agree, it's part of your expected behavior.
Also, try talking less and concentrate in your work, you are not being hired to make friends or to do lectures.
not shutting up even when you're told to might be a strong sign of ADD though, yep
You also said that you got fired from your last job.
Okay, I'll bite. Just shut your mouth and stop talking.
I know it's hard. I was always the class clown in school. I was always the witty and funny kid that everyone loved to be around.
But here's a secret: most people don't like the sound of your voice as much as you do. I don't know your religious beliefs, but most people can agree that the book of Proverbs has...some good proverbs in it. So here you go:
"Even fools are thought wise when they keep silent; with their mouths shut, they seem intelligent." (Prov. 17:28)
and just a few verses later
"Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions." (Prov 18:2)
How I learned to shut up? I saw people that were very similar to me, and I saw how people avoided them and didn't want to be around them because they couldn't get in a word edgewise. I realized it was very selfish to talk all the time, and that I would be a better friend if I would shut up once in a while and let them talk. Although I think myself brilliant, every single one of my ideas is still not better than every single one of theirs.
Like, "Ha ha, you're great, I think I might follow you home."
You said you were suspended from that job before you were fired. Why were you suspended?
All we can do is identify the behaviors you mention. The really important thing here that we CAN tell you is that you behave incredibly irresponsibly in seemingly any job you are given, and you say whatever comes into your head as soon as it gets there. As long as you do these things you will not be able to keep a job. It's pretty much up to you from here to work to fix it and/or go to a doctor who may be able to give you medication or advice.
I had an issue where I couldn't sleep for a few months. I got a low-dose anti-depressant and I can literally sleep like a champ almost every night. It does wonders on everything you do.
ADHD has all the same symptoms of ADD only with the added outward hyperactivity in how you move. ADD is just an internal thing in the mind, but sometimes that can be much worse.
I found out recently I had Overfocused/rigid-thinking ADHD back in March; I had always been taking something for it since the 6th grade, but I had no idea there was more than one type. After trying many options, I discovered I needed to pair an anti-depressant with my adderal in order to become like everyone else, and man the difference has been life changing.
For the first time in my life I was able to think clearly for a change, not constantly be caught in a negative loop though cycle because of my overactive frontal lobes, and could actually start using common fucking sense. In short, slowing my brain down actually makes me quicker on my feet and better in pretty much every aspect of life. It's incredible.
The only sure-fire way to determine if you have ADD/ADHD is to get a SPECT scan to detect your brain activity. If you have the money i'd say go for it, it could be life changing.
IANAD, but none of this is backed by current medical research or data. It may be the front-running medical advance ADD patients are waiting for, but it isn't verified or recommended by the medical community yet.