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Locke & Key

CJGCJG Registered User regular
edited May 2011 in Graphic Violence
I got the Locke and Key Free Comic book back on FCBD. I liked the art, the idea and the story in the comic. Normally that would be all I'd need to jump all over a comic. I was a little concerned by the bit in the cover that says the real comic is a lot more violent. I've read other reviews that point this out as well, so it makes me think that this is outside the norm.

What kind of violence are they talking about? Does anyone have any examples of what happens in the comics?

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited May 2011
    There is some really graphic violence in it. People getting killed via knives, hatchets, guns, etc

    That said, it is probably my favorite series going on right now. So far there are four 6-issue series (with the next one starting in June)

    Welcome to Lovecraft
    Head Games
    Crown of Shadows
    Keys to the Kingdom

    But if violence is a big concern for you then yeah, don't read it.

    Edit: here are three of the more violent pages from the first issue
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    Also, I should say that the violence isn't frequent like that. While it's displayed in a graphic manner, that's more to give it the "OH SHIT" feeling because it doesn't happen every issue.

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited May 2011
    but let's turn this from a question thread into a real thread

    Buy Locke & Key, everybody

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  • CorporateLogoCorporateLogo The toilet knows how I feelRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    The Keith thread

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    Do not have a cow, mortal.

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  • BedlamBedlam Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Is the fourth trade finally out, then?

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited May 2011
    July 5th for the hardcover, according to Amazon. The last issue of the fourth series just came out this month

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  • akajaybayakajaybay Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Locke & Key is great. Been reading it in trades and the wait for Keys to the Kingdom has been tough.
    I've been collecting the replica keys Skelton Studios has been putting out as well. I just need to figure out how to display them. Thinking a flat hotel key rack kind of deal, but havent settled on one yet.

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited May 2011
    I didn't find out about the replica keys until like two months ago

    I don't have the money for them (and some aren't available) :(

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  • akajaybayakajaybay Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I was glad they released a variant of the Ghost Key. I was at the SDCC they gave them out at when Joe Hill was there, but unfortunately for me I hadn't read/heard about the series at that point. Sounds like he'll be there again this year but I won't be this time.

    Somewhat of a tangent, but I recommend his novel Heart Shaped Box alot as well.

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  • GankGank Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Definitely buy Locke and Key. It's in my top twenty pieces of fiction ever. I'm still crushed Fox didn't pick up the TV series.

    And sweet Jesus, I didn't find out about the buyable keys til right now! Looks like I'm not allowed to have any money...

    Gank on
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  • GankGank Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    So the first issue of "Locke & Key: Clockworks" is finally out and it's awesome. It's also the second to last volume in the series, with "Locke & Key: Omega" rounding it out.

    The TV pilot was screened at comic-con and was at best, loved to pieces and at worst, felt a touch lacking. (Warning: Spoilers).

    If you are still, for some ungodly reason, um-ing and ah-ing over this series because you're sick of comics over using hyper-violence, gore, etc? Well...
    Joe Hill wrote:
    A lot of people think horror is throwing entrails at the reader, and somehow that’s scary. What’s scary is when you love someone and they’re in danger. That’s how horror works.

    As Keith pointed out above, the gore/violence is used sparingly and to great effect.

    The rest of the interview with Joe Hill and artist Gabriel Rodriguez is here and definitely worth a read, but has some CRAZY spoilers about half way through.

    Oh yeah, this guy won the 2011 Eisner Award for Best Writer for this series. I am not surprised by this.

    Buy. This. Series.

    For your health.

    Gank on
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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    fuuck I want all the keys

  • GankGank Registered User regular
    Surely they'll release a collection once the series is done.

    And just as surely will I purchase it.

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  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    So, yesterday I was at my local library, spotted the first three volumes of Locke and Key on the shelf, and thought I'd give it a shot. I'd heard it was good, but no one would ever really say why. Or what it was about, for that matter. I was actually under the impression that it was some kind of crime comic.

    Add to that the fact that it's published by IDW, who have primarily done cheap cross-media cash-ins, and that it's written by a novelist, and it seemed at first glance to be one of those terrible comics that are only made as a pitch for a TV show or film.

    But like I said, I'd heard it was good.

    And holy shit, it's good. I sat down to read the first volume, and wound up tearing through all three in one sitting.

    First? Great premise. In the aftermath of a tragedy, a family picks up and moves into an old family estate, known as Keyhouse. There, they discover a variety of keys which, when placed into the correct key-receptacle, unlocks some kind of magic. Put the death key in the death-door and walk through it? You die, and become a ghost. Put the anywhere key in any door, and it opens a portal to wherever you want to go. And so on. Add to that a malevolent supernatural figure, a young serial killer, a severely damaged family, and a bunch of old secrets that want to stay buried, and you've got a great time.

    It seriously feels like something on the level of Y the Last Man, or Bone. A vast, sprawling story, made of many disparate parts, which will all come together perfectly by the end. It's awesome to see stuff seeded early, that you know will be coming back around before the story's done and over with.

    Second, this book has an amazing creative team in Joe Hill and Gabriel Rodriguez. Hill's dialogue is sharp as Hell, and unbelievably natural. It honestly reads a lot like Brian Vaughan's, with people talking the way people talk. Each TPB is perfectly paced, giving you a terrific little chunk of story, that leaves you wanting more by the end. The characters are believable, consistent, and sympathetic in their actions, even when they're doing stuff you don't like.

    And Rodriguez's art? Unbelievable. If you took the exaggerated, haunting work of Carmine Di Giandomenico, and stitched it together with that of Steve Dillon, you'd have something approximating the look of this book. Every character is incredibly expressive in their body and facial language, and the storytelling is done clearly and cleanly as you could want, not getting bogged down in heavy blacks and murky coloring like so many horror books.

    Third? Go buy the damn book. I was completely hooked by the end of the first TPB.

  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    That's what I've been telling people for like a year!

    I do try to avoid describing it, though, because I went in knowing absolutely nothing about it other than, like you said, "I heard it was good" and was completely blown away by it

  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    Also, I need to say again that shit gets real in volume 4

    The last issue was just crazy

  • DelduwathDelduwath Registered User regular
    I picked up the first trade some months ago, and was equally blown away. I haven't gotten to the other trades yet, so I don't know if the theme of the story changes, but for the first trade, I'd summarize it like this: Imagine a childhood fantasy world, like Narnia, except that where Narnia went right, this one went wrong. Eventually, the kids grew up, moved away, and forgot about their fantasy world. Now, their children are back in that same house, discovering that same fantasy world. Unknown to them, whatever went wrong with that world a generation ago is still there, and it's only festered all the more with time.

    Although the first trade was unquestionably good, I'm hesitant to pick up the subsequent ones. I know this might seem silly, but, basically, I like happy endings. The first trade was just so emotionally draining, so heavy, like a stone sitting in my stomach. The characters suffer, and it's clear that they're going to suffer more. I really want to know what happens to them, but I don't want to watch them go through misery. I empathize with them too much.

  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    You gotta keep reading

  • GankGank Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Keith wrote:
    That's what I've been telling people for like a year!

    I do try to avoid describing it, though, because I went in knowing absolutely nothing about it other than, like you said, "I heard it was good" and was completely blown away by it

    Hey, I listened immediately and never looked back. And Keith's right, last issue was indeed off the hiz-ook, shit is coming to a head. I'll be crushed when it eventually ends.

    Describing it just takes away from anything you encounter in it. It is phenomenal.

    Edit: You absolutely must keep reading.

    Gank on
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  • DelduwathDelduwath Registered User regular
    When I'm staying up until 3am, bawling my eyes out, I expect you to be there to provide a shoulder to cry on, Keith and Gank.

  • GankGank Registered User regular
    It's alright, all the awesome will soak up your tears.

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  • akajaybayakajaybay Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Yeah I grabbed the first trade at a sale my local comic book store was having to round out a buy 3 trades thing and needed a third.
    And I'd "heard it was good" most likely from someone on here. After reading it I immediately went for the 2nd trade, and then begain waiting for the 3rd.
    They do some really great things with the medium, page reveals, dialogue that dovetails into a thematic scene change, really good expressive art that I honestly didnt care much for when I initially thumbed through it but it's perfect for it.

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  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    Delduwath wrote:
    When I'm staying up until 3am, bawling my eyes out, I expect you to be there to provide a shoulder to cry on, Keith and Gank.
    I actually thought the first volume was by far the darkest. In the next two, you get more stuff featuring the kids' social lives, which brings some levity.

  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    Yeah, the first volume is a big downer, but I always love anything that makes me feel emotionally attached, even if they're "bad" emotions

  • SatanIsMyMotorSatanIsMyMotor Fuck Warren Ellis Registered User regular
    I'll throw my hat into the "this shit be bangin'" lot. It is a really good book. I think the Narnia reference above is very apt. It's like if Stephen King (when he's good) rewrote a twisted version of Narnia with a dash of Lovecraft. Really excellent book.

  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    It's like if Stephen King (when he's good) rewrote a twisted version of Narnia with a dash of Lovecraft. Really excellent book.

    Funny thing about that

  • SatanIsMyMotorSatanIsMyMotor Fuck Warren Ellis Registered User regular
    Keith wrote:
    It's like if Stephen King (when he's good) rewrote a twisted version of Narnia with a dash of Lovecraft. Really excellent book.

    Funny thing about that

    Actually, yeah. I just remembered who Joe Hill is a pen name for :P

  • WildcatWildcat Registered User regular
    Hah! I didn't know that.

  • SatanIsMyMotorSatanIsMyMotor Fuck Warren Ellis Registered User regular
    Having just finished the third trade it was honestly one of the best comics I've read all year. That was a SUPERBLY put together arc. It had excellent adventure notes, some genuinely freaky horror, some heavy stakes, and the part with the big key at the end was one of the best "Fuck yes!" moments I've ever read in a comic.

    I can honestly only think of a couple of moments that caused the "Fuck yes!" feeling in me (you know, the one that almost brings a tear to your eye). The Locke and Key moment was one and (despite how much people hate it) the UXM issue where Prof X is being tortured inside Onslaught and Cyclops does the badass "Take him" thing followed by Thor wrecking some shit are the two.

    People need to read this book.

  • GankGank Registered User regular
    edited August 2011
    It is literally impossible not to be impressed by this book.

    People need to read this book.

    Edit: And yeah, the big key was great. The whole crown of shadows arc was just perfect. Dodge man, Dodge.

    Gank on
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  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    wait does this series have a finite end?

    I am interested, but if it does have a finite end, I will do what I do with lots of things like that

    wait til it is all out in trade and buy them all at once

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  • GankGank Registered User regular
    It's only got one more 6 issue arc after Clockworks, which is going on right now.

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  • melting_dollmelting_doll Registered User regular
    I very much encourage the reading of Joe Hill. He came to a signing at my work (comic shop) and he was amazing! He's super nice and insisted on signing all of our remaining copies of our Locke & Key books for people to buy later that couldn't make it that day.

    Although it's a little sad to hear Locke & Key will reach its end soon, I think it's a smart decision. It almost seems like it would drag out a bit too much otherwise, and I've really enjoyed the pacing so far.

    Also, if you read and enjoy Locke & Key, definitely read Joe Hill's new title The Cape, too.

  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    I'm enjoying The Cape so far (it's not written by Joe Hill, though, just based off a short story by him), although the main character seems like he's straight out of a Mark Millar book

  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    Here's my immediate reaction, upon finishing volume four.

    "Oh, FUCK YOU."
    Seriously, if this somehow all ends with Lucas/Dodge/Zack evading punishment, or otherwise doing that horror movie thing where it looks like he's beaten, only to reveal at the very end that he's not, I'm going to be so annoyed.

    But, kind of in a good way. Like, I'm totally invested in seeing this guy get his comeuppance, and if he somehow doesn't, it's going to be immensely frustrating.

    I was pretty bummed that Mukutu didn't really get to square off with Lucas, since his history as a fencer was foreshadowed a couple volumes back.

    I will say, the one thing that consistently bugs me about this book, is how blasé the kids are about having magic keys, even when there's a dark force clearly hunting them. Like, when Tyler sees Lucas has the music box, he says something like, "Oh, we were wondering where that went."

    Dude.

    Maybe you should keep track of your primary weapons in a war against a supernatural evil. Buy a safe or something.

  • SatanIsMyMotorSatanIsMyMotor Fuck Warren Ellis Registered User regular
    Yeah, I agree that they are fairly non-chalant about what goes on. The February issue in Volume 4 really highlights that when it just has the various days of the week and shows the craziness they go through.

    Honestly, it's kind of part of the charm to me though.

  • GustavGustav Friend of Goats Somewhere in the OzarksRegistered User regular
    Munch wrote:
    Here's my immediate reaction, upon finishing volume four.

    "Oh, FUCK YOU."
    Seriously, if this somehow all ends with Lucas/Dodge/Zack evading punishment, or otherwise doing that horror movie thing where it looks like he's beaten, only to reveal at the very end that he's not, I'm going to be so annoyed.

    But, kind of in a good way. Like, I'm totally invested in seeing this guy get his comeuppance, and if he somehow doesn't, it's going to be immensely frustrating.

    I was pretty bummed that Mukutu didn't really get to square off with Lucas, since his history as a fencer was foreshadowed a couple volumes back.

    I will say, the one thing that consistently bugs me about this book, is how blasé the kids are about having magic keys, even when there's a dark force clearly hunting them. Like, when Tyler sees Lucas has the music box, he says something like, "Oh, we were wondering where that went."

    Dude.

    Maybe you should keep track of your primary weapons in a war against a supernatural evil. Buy a safe or something.

    Seriously just finished Volume Four yesterday. This series is the hardest to trade wait.
    This volume was really good and all, but it felt really different. Like the other volumes were more interconnected, built on each other. This felt more like a series of one-shots. All really good, but the pacing was much more off. And while the last chapter of it was intense, it lacked the oomph that it might have had if we had more exploration of the other keys.

    The issue that covered all the various weekends and time in just a couple panels each really felt like the fake clips episode of Community. Which I like the concept, it shows the Locke family normalizing to the insanity in cool way. I just wish the keys that they find over that montage weren't so integral to later issues of it. Which I think gave me the same problem with the music box stuff.

    Plus I dunno, the panels of Bode all super strength rang too ridiculous for me. I realize that the previous volume had giant Ty in a giant monster brawl which is just as silly, but I loved it. I guess it's the build up that makes it for me.

    Of course it's still just about my favorite ongoing and this is all nit-picky. I loved all of the issues in volume four. I just wished I loved it as an entire volume as much as the previous books.

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  • ForkesForkes Registered User regular
    I bought the first one years ago. Instantly fell in love with it.

    I generally only buy the trades, I hate single issues, but godamn, it takes about a year for him to put out 6 issues.

    I really like the actual book design for the hard cover trades, but I'm kind of disappointed about the 4th. White, and with no ribbon? This is the only title I will buy in hard cover, based solely on how cool the design of the hard cover is, and now I'm regretting it a little.

    But I highly suggest everyone read this book. The writing and art work together in such a way that you would think they have been working together for ages.

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    It takes a year because it's bi-monthly

  • Sars_BoySars_Boy Rest, You Are The Lightning. Registered User regular
    i still need to get volumes 3 & 4, i'll probably wait till im back in seattle so ill have 1 and 2 for reference

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