Someone should mod it so you can take an entire crew of the same person.
"Mordin, get in the tube. Meanwhile, Mordin will take two other Mordins and lead a diversion team, while Mordin, Mordin and I will follow along the tube."
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You know Miranda's in a bad place when even Tal wants her to bite the bullet, right in one of those rubber bags she's sewn on various parts of her suit.
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CambiataCommander ShepardThe likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered Userregular
Taking a grenade launcher to the face? Hell of a way to go. Though perhaps they're not really true to the spirit of "Bad Shepard," just merely "Particularly awesome Shepard".
right now I am doing The Long Walk with Miranda holding the bubble, I am an Adept rolling with a loyal Jack and Samara
you'd think one of us would help out, but secretly we're all hoping Miranda will die
Man, I need to figure out how to get Miranda to die on my next play through.
Disloyal, taken to the boss fight or left to hold the line with everyone else loyal.
Oooh, thanks, I'll try that next time.
Holding the line with everyone else loyal won't kill her, because the average defense will be high enough that there will be no casualties. My first blind run I had three disloyals, and even they all survived. You have to rig it so the score is enough to kill someone and that the other three (pretty sure it's three, from memory: Mordin, Jack, Kasumi) people in the list before her are either in your party or not recruited (assuming you want only Miranda dead).
So in other words, just take her to the boss fight disloyal.
right now I am doing The Long Walk with Miranda holding the bubble, I am an Adept rolling with a loyal Jack and Samara
you'd think one of us would help out, but secretly we're all hoping Miranda will die
Man, I need to figure out how to get Miranda to die on my next play through.
Disloyal, taken to the boss fight or left to hold the line with everyone else loyal.
Oooh, thanks, I'll try that next time.
Holding the line with everyone else loyal won't kill her, because the average defense will be high enough that there will be no casualties. My first blind run I had three disloyals, and even they all survived. You have to rig it so the score is enough to kill someone and that the other three (pretty sure it's three, from memory: Mordin, Jack, Kasumi) people in the list before her are either in your party or not recruited (assuming you want only Miranda dead).
So in other words, just take her to the boss fight disloyal.
Talis on that list too. But, being loyal boosts their hold the line score to above her loyal score. Just send Mornin back and take Grunt/Garrus/Legion with you and she should die. For extra security send Mornin as the escort.
It's funny, ever since people figured out the last mission could be finessed (If you want to put it that way.) we've had nothing but failshep and kill Miranda videos. Not to mention a particularly sad ending Tali AMV. What is wrong with people? Just because it's an option doesn't mean you have to do it.
I save everyone, even on Renegade runs. Bad Shepard is bad.
FailShep is compelling because she's the challenge that WinShep should have been. In a world where the protagonist cannot lose, how are you going to destroy every possible hope of stopping the reapers?
FailShep is compelling because she's the challenge that WinShep should have been. In a world where the protagonist cannot lose, how are you going to destroy every possible hope of stopping the reapers?
The answer is, of course, to have sex with a really pretentious Asari.
All I could think about was how little clipping went on there. I'm horrible!
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So I'm replaying ME 1 again, and I noticed something in the dialog that I never noticed before: Cerberus has a captive Rachni Queen. Don't know how I missed that before. Now I understand how there can be Rachni husks in the third game.
So I'm replaying ME 1 again, and I noticed something in the dialog that I never noticed before: Cerberus has a captive Rachni Queen. Don't know how I missed that before. Now I understand how there can be Rachni husks in the third game.
So I'm replaying ME 1 again, and I noticed something in the dialog that I never noticed before: Cerberus has a captive Rachni Queen. Don't know how I missed that before. Now I understand how there can be Rachni husks in the third game.
I don't remember Cerberus having a rachni queen. They were definitely cloning them, and some were pretty much 'wild' for escaping from Cerberus (the spores or whatever on the contaminated space ship that led to that big underground group with the rachni brood warriors), so there can be rachni out there regardless.
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You have to do a fair few UNC missions to find that out.
Cerberus was using Rachni warriors and such, which they developed via cloning if I remember right. I dont recall anything about a Queen.
The dialog that reveals it is written in such a way that you have to really pay attention to get it. It's when you're going to the listening stations killing the Rachni. I always assumed those were 'wild' Rachni. In the logs you listen to, the Cerberus agent rarely uses the term 'Rachni' which partly explains why I never caught the bit about them having a queen. They talk about the 'units' (Rachni) and how unlike the ones on Noveria, these aren't simply wild beasts because Cerberus has a 'control unit' (Rachni queen). You could argue that they're talking about something else, but the Rachni queen that you speak to on Noveria specifically states that without a mother, Rachni don't gain sentience.
You have to do a fair few UNC missions to find that out.
Cerberus was using Rachni warriors and such, which they developed via cloning if I remember right. I dont recall anything about a Queen.
The dialog that reveals it is written in such a way that you have to really pay attention to get it. It's when you're going to the listening stations killing the Rachni. I always assumed those were 'wild' Rachni. In the logs you listen to, the Cerberus agent rarely uses the term 'Rachni' which partly explains why I never caught the bit about them having a queen. They talk about the 'units' (Rachni) and how unlike the ones on Noveria, these aren't simply wild beasts because Cerberus has a 'control unit' (Rachni queen). You could argue that they're talking about something else, but the Rachni queen that you speak to on Noveria specifically states that without a mother, Rachni don't gain sentience.
I dunno, if they had a queen, why would they need to clone them? I mean, Binary Helix meant to clone from the egg they took, but it turned out to be a queen so they nixed that plan. The control thing may just mean some mind control -- you'd still need to be able to control the queen if you had one. That language does makes it sound like they have one.
There being another queen would make the Noveria decision seem almost pointless, though.
Oh, Cerberus has a queen. You find out that the rachni they were experimenting on to try to get an army figured out how to put themselves on supply frigates and send them out to random destinations. Normal rachni aren't smart enough for that.
Oh, Cerberus has a queen. You find out that the rachni they were experimenting on to try to get an army figured out how to put themselves on supply frigates and send them out to random destinations. Normal rachni aren't smart enough for that.
Oh, Cerberus has a queen. You find out that the rachni they were experimenting on to try to get an army figured out how to put themselves on supply frigates and send them out to random destinations. Normal rachni aren't smart enough for that.
Actually, I'm going to rescind an earlier implication. Last I checked, the Rachni Queen said that Rachni don't develop into sane beings when deprived of her influence.
Insane or not, that does not a preclude a sort of predatory cleverness.
I think this one is too ambiguous to say conclusively one way or another.
Oh, Cerberus has a queen. You find out that the rachni they were experimenting on to try to get an army figured out how to put themselves on supply frigates and send them out to random destinations. Normal rachni aren't smart enough for that.
Actually, I'm going to rescind an earlier implication. Last I checked, the Rachni Queen said that Rachni don't develop into sane beings when deprived of her influence.
Insane or not, that does not a preclude a sort of predatory cleverness.
I think this one is too ambiguous to say conclusively one way or another.
There's also the line: "We were treating them like animals, when we should have been treating them like POWs"
Edit: also note that they didn't just stow away on the supply ships, they actively deployed them in order to escape.
Oh, Cerberus has a queen. You find out that the rachni they were experimenting on to try to get an army figured out how to put themselves on supply frigates and send them out to random destinations. Normal rachni aren't smart enough for that.
Actually, I'm going to rescind an earlier implication. Last I checked, the Rachni Queen said that Rachni don't develop into sane beings when deprived of her influence.
Insane or not, that does not a preclude a sort of predatory cleverness.
I think this one is too ambiguous to say conclusively one way or another.
There's also the line: "We were treating them like animals, when we should have been treating them like POWs"
Edit: also note that they didn't just stow away on the supply ships, they actively deployed them in order to escape.
Didn't rachni only need a queen during development in order to not turn out insane? If Cerberus's rachni were from Noveria, which I think they were, then they would have been exposed to a queen already.
I'm going to assume no extra queen unless ME3 shows otherwise.
Cerberus created cloned rachni on Binthu as part of their super-soldier research. More rachni are encountered at Alliance listening posts on Nepmos and Altahe. After clearing the rachni out, Shepard discovers they were specimens shipped from Noveria by Cerberus, and tracks them back to a depot in the Gorgon system. The depot is overrun with rachni and there are no survivors. After killing the rachni, Shepard finds the logs of the station's commanding officer named Flores who was involved in the project. She angrily claims they treated the rachni like animals when they should have treated them like POWs and leaves a recommendation that Cerberus pursue other projects; the rachni are too smart.
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you'd think one of us would help out, but secretly we're all hoping Miranda will die
wait
is thane even an option?
or jacob?
i mean goddamn THE GAME ITSELF tries to telegraph how wrong miranda is
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wow, that's interesting. O_o
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Man, I need to figure out how to get Miranda to die on my next play through.
"Mordin, get in the tube. Meanwhile, Mordin will take two other Mordins and lead a diversion team, while Mordin, Mordin and I will follow along the tube."
Disloyal, taken to the boss fight or left to hold the line with everyone else loyal.
Why I fear the ocean.
Spoiler Warning managed it, though Thane, Jacob, and Grunt also died.
Oooh, thanks, I'll try that next time.
And, of course this, even with the HUD and everything else.
Ouch.
Taking a grenade launcher to the face? Hell of a way to go. Though perhaps they're not really true to the spirit of "Bad Shepard," just merely "Particularly awesome Shepard".
Holding the line with everyone else loyal won't kill her, because the average defense will be high enough that there will be no casualties. My first blind run I had three disloyals, and even they all survived. You have to rig it so the score is enough to kill someone and that the other three (pretty sure it's three, from memory: Mordin, Jack, Kasumi) people in the list before her are either in your party or not recruited (assuming you want only Miranda dead).
So in other words, just take her to the boss fight disloyal.
Talis on that list too. But, being loyal boosts their hold the line score to above her loyal score. Just send Mornin back and take Grunt/Garrus/Legion with you and she should die. For extra security send Mornin as the escort.
Edit: Wait, the line score would still be too high unless you took a squad from Grunt/Garrus/Zaeed, though, yeah?
Not quite sold on the choice of music, but the video editing is top notch. :whistle:
I save everyone, even on Renegade runs. Bad Shepard is bad.
:winky:
The answer is, of course, to have sex with a really pretentious Asari.
I settle for nothing but the best
(I kind of hope we see another Ardat-Yakshi in ME3. That, or Mordin takes a working lunch and figures out some kind of a cure or something.)
The Hell, you say?
When is this said? I don't remember that at all.
Cerberus was using Rachni warriors and such, which they developed via cloning if I remember right. I dont recall anything about a Queen.
The dialog that reveals it is written in such a way that you have to really pay attention to get it. It's when you're going to the listening stations killing the Rachni. I always assumed those were 'wild' Rachni. In the logs you listen to, the Cerberus agent rarely uses the term 'Rachni' which partly explains why I never caught the bit about them having a queen. They talk about the 'units' (Rachni) and how unlike the ones on Noveria, these aren't simply wild beasts because Cerberus has a 'control unit' (Rachni queen). You could argue that they're talking about something else, but the Rachni queen that you speak to on Noveria specifically states that without a mother, Rachni don't gain sentience.
A control unit does not imply sentience.
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There being another queen would make the Noveria decision seem almost pointless, though.
Exactly.
Actually, I'm going to rescind an earlier implication. Last I checked, the Rachni Queen said that Rachni don't develop into sane beings when deprived of her influence.
Insane or not, that does not a preclude a sort of predatory cleverness.
I think this one is too ambiguous to say conclusively one way or another.
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There's also the line: "We were treating them like animals, when we should have been treating them like POWs"
Edit: also note that they didn't just stow away on the supply ships, they actively deployed them in order to escape.
Okay.
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I'm going to assume no extra queen unless ME3 shows otherwise.