Naw, don't really dig it. Its touted as an ARPG, but there really isnt any RPG in there. Its more of just an action game which is totally fine, but I don't feel it does that particularly well.
Ah well
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Unfortunately, I can see the complaints in the reviews have merit, the combat is pretty uninteresting.
The narrator is like 75% of the appeal of this game. I just don't think it's for you if you hate the core gimmick.
That is just the biggest load of bull. Narration is 75% of the appeal? Where are you getting that from? Show your work.
The appeal of the game is that it's an isometric action/adventure. The narration may ALSO appeal to you personally but that's open to personal opinion. I think it sucks hard so I turn it off. Game is still fun, combat's a little dull.
Disliking a gimmick, and I stress the fact it's a GIMMICK, does not shut some imaginary door. I also think that the character design is a little blah. OH NOES STOP PLAYING THAT GAME I think monkeys are a little played out NO MORE DONKEY KONG FOR YOU THEN
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You just seem to be working very hard to dislike a game for the very reason that everybody else is enjoying it.
Naw, don't really dig it. Its touted as an ARPG, but there really isnt any RPG in there. Its more of just an action game which is totally fine, but I don't feel it does that particularly well.
Ah well
There's lots of RPG customisation stuff in the hub area (which may not be included in the trial? I'm not sure.).
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You just seem to be working very hard to dislike a game for the very reason that everybody else is enjoying it.
And? Are you saying there's no way you'd play the game if there wasn't a narrator in it? Sound like the game isn't for you then if all your playing it for is narration. You can get that in March of the Penguins, FYI. (We'll ignore the fact I already said the game is fun.)
I will never understand this mindset that if you aren't playing a game for the same reason someone else is people start pulling out "The game isn't for you" line. Jesus I got the same thing in Dungeon Siege 3 because I didn't like how flippy one of the characters was and is Sims3 because I don't really care to redecorate my houses.
IN ANY CASE
For those of you further on, are there any environmental obstacles or bosses you need specific weapons for or is it pretty much use whatever you like best till the end of the game? I remember a hands on earlier complaining that the weapons mean very little in the overall game.
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Mojo_JojoWe are only now beginning to understand the full power and ramifications of sexual intercourseRegistered Userregular
I actually missed you saying the game was fun in your angry ranting. Sorry about that, I misunderstood your complaints.
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Also, people hating the narrator. Not simply disliking, but hating him? WELP. There goes your enjoyment of the story.
Jesus Christ. Ya know what? I can turn on subtitles and I get the whole story. I just don't have to hear the Captain of the Trailer Park telling it to me.
The trial was very meh. I thought this had city building elements? All I got to do was walk up to a circle and place one of two options. Is that really it?
Well I binged for about 4 or 5 hours last night. Definitely love the game. I'm pretty happy with a lot of the design decisions they made. These guys really knew what they were doing. Things I like so far are the upgrade systems, the god shrine for variable difficulty, the weapons that are varied enough to feel different. Putting arsenals on the levels so you can adjust your loadout mid-level. The story, narrator and characters I'm enjoying. Most of all, I'm quite impressed by the actual gameplay. I was afraid it would start to feel too samey after a bit, but it stays very interesting.
The trial was very meh. I thought this had city building elements? All I got to do was walk up to a circle and place one of two options. Is that really it?
It's more like Legend of Mana or FFT:A in it's building aspects than Dark Cloud.
The trial was very meh. I thought this had city building elements? All I got to do was walk up to a circle and place one of two options. Is that really it?
It's more like Legend of Mana or FFT:A in it's building aspects than Dark Cloud.
That's a shame. I would have absolutely slapped them with money if it were the latter. Oh well.
beat the freaking pants of this game last night, and holy hell END SPOILERS
the two choices you make at the end are weird, especially the one where you decide to leave or take zulf. i ended up taking him, and then choosing to use the evacuation rather than reset the world. instead of getting the achievement for ;the end', i got the secret achievement which was 'the beginning'. makes me think maybe i made the right choice?
EDIT: i just realized since zulf was in my end cinematic, i'm guessing there's technically 4 different endings you can get on the first play through. maybe more after new game+...
anyways, i threw it into new game+ and was wondering, does it reset my vigils? anyone else know?
i'm actually surprised people dislike this game. it's got a lot of charm, cool back story, and just amazing art design. hits the right points for me, and all the weapons and upgrades keep it fresh. it's fun to mix and match weapons and see which work best.
This game makes me want to pull out and replay The Illusion of Gaia and Secret of Evermore. I was in the middle of playing Fallout: New Vegas when I was informed that it was done downloading. I got off NV and started playing Bastion. I looked at the clock and it was 12:30 when I got off of it. But I finished the repeater proving ground before I called it a night. An excellent game.
Of the ones I tried the war machete was the most difficult, it just seemed to rely on throwing the machete so much that hitting the 90 or 60 sec window was nearly impossible.
the key to the machete one is to stand in the center and kill all the squirts before they can spread out, then the generators, followed by the turrets.
I played some of the newgame+ and here is what carries over as far as I know:
Your level and xp
Your money
Your weapons, weapon upgrades, upgrade material and secret skills
All spirits you unlocked during the last game
Here are the changes/other stuff as far as I know:
All idols are unlocked from the start, even if you didn't unlock/buy them in the last game
The bastion can be built in any order, you can choose from all 6 buildings at the beginning
The proving grounds are reset. This allows you to redo them and get the rewards again. This makes it much easier to get the weapon upgrade materials if you are lacking some of them.
I haven't unlocked the memorial or lost and found yet so I don't know if there are addition quests or addition things that can be bought.
It's fairly amusing that a game this small is attracting backlash. Rather than dislike it for what it isn't (a traditional ARPG, a city-builder, whatever), why not just appreciate it for what it is? Bastion is an extremely clever bit of design with a surprising depth of options for the tight, well-polished gameplay. It's also a showcase of good game writing, the value of art direction, and just how much can be done with a $15 Arcade title. Haters gonna hate, I guess, but hating on Bastion for not being what you want it to be is utterly missing the point.
As for the narration, I can only imagine that anyone complaining about the various 'redneck' qualities of the voice acting isn't paying very much attention to the overall tone of Bastion. If you look past the art style even a tiny bit you will find a game with a strong Western (as in cowboys, frontiers, and pioneering) aesthetic and a wonderfully matched voice. Have you ever actually been to a trailer park? Anywhere in rural America? They don't sound like that. If it helps, close your eyes and picture Sam Elliot.
anyways, i threw it into new game+ and was wondering, does it reset my vigils? anyone else know?
It doesn't. New Game Plus is actually the only way to get 100% since it unlocks two new vigils that you have to get.
I finished the game yesterday. The combat, leveling, and the difficulty idol mechanic are my favorite things about this game. What turned me off is the narrow level design, it's like an action-rpg on rails most of the time. And the tiles-drop-from-sky effect is aesthetically nice but it makes the little exploration afforded to you really tedious, they should have scaled it down considerably maybe to just the cinematic moments. Also, the late stage enemies are obnoxious as fuck. Not difficult obnoxious, but just obnoxious.
And I liked the narrator's voice just fine, but the stuff he was saying at the end of the game was just nonsense. It was like listening to a nerd friend go over the entire plot of his favorite fantasy book series. I kept thinking "yeah yeah sure, now shut the fuck up".
I work with rednecks. I hear these fuckers talk aaaallllll day long. Believe me, the Narrator is NOT ANYTHING CLOSE to a redneck. I think it's more noir than western, but I can totally see that, too.
Also, the game is still very cool. I kind of want the soundtrack.
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Been waiting for this since PAX East so I bought the hell out of it yesterday morning. Payed a few levels so far and I'm having a lot of fun. The narrator is pretty cool, and the combat is fun and fast paced.
The repeater proving ground was really fun! I thought the one for the bow would be pretty easy, but I need to get used to that timing.
If you have trouble with the Bow one, wait until you get the DoT upgrade and come back. The dots affect the targets so they should be destroyed in one shot without needing to time out the power shot.
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Wow, I'm actually kind of shocked that not everyone enjoys the narrator. I felt that the style that the story was told added to the game.
I beat the game last night, will definitely new game plus it and go for the different options at the end. I very much enjoyed the entire experience.
the only review I've read so far where they referred to the narrator as not a good thing (not even a bad thing), was by the same guy who gave Assassins Creed 2 a 4.5/10.
So... yeah I think some of the hate here is a bit of an anomaly.
Still, if you find you cannot enjoy the smooth, wise, world-weary tone of the narrator, then I would recommend turning the subtitles on. They do a really good job of teasing the story here and there.
The whole choice thing was excellent, and I didn't see it coming at all.
One thing that seemed odd to me was that I saved the guy at the end, carried him the exit and then...nothing. No one made any mention of it, which I thought was a little off.
I work with rednecks. I hear these fuckers talk aaaallllll day long. Believe me, the Narrator is NOT ANYTHING CLOSE to a redneck. I think it's more noir than western, but I can totally see that, too.
Also, the game is still very cool. I kind of want the soundtrack.
I would love a soundtrack
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God damn it Pistol Range. I physically can not press the button any more rapidly. The best I can do is 729.
Also, the game is still very cool. I kind of want the soundtrack.
I would love a soundtrack
Considering both the studio twitter and the composer's twitter has been bombarded with soundtrack related questions, to which the response seems to be "We're looking into it." and "A possibility." I'm hopeful.
Now excuse me while I go and sit in the Bastion with the Gramophone playing Build That Wall or whatever you want to call the vocal track for the 15th time.
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God damn it Pistol Range. I physically can not press the button any more rapidly. The best I can do is 729.
An easy way to do the pistol range, in spoilers just in case.
equip the werewhiskey spirit and roll off the edge by the skyway platform until it activates. This will destroy the targets a lot quicker and save you a lot of time.
God, I really want to play this, but I'm leaving tonight for the weekend. Hrrrmmmm. Maybe I'll start the demo downloading and get like 20 minutes in before I split.
Played almost 2 hours. This thing has got style in spades. A very cool game. The narrator is an excellent touch. A rare game where I'm actually decent at counter-blocking, which is pretty fun. I'll definitely spend some more time with it.
so i just bought the fuck out of this
i couldn't even resist long enough to come check the forums to see if it was as awesome as it looks
happy to see this thread
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Naw, don't really dig it. Its touted as an ARPG, but there really isnt any RPG in there. Its more of just an action game which is totally fine, but I don't feel it does that particularly well.
Ah well
That is just the biggest load of bull. Narration is 75% of the appeal? Where are you getting that from? Show your work.
The appeal of the game is that it's an isometric action/adventure. The narration may ALSO appeal to you personally but that's open to personal opinion. I think it sucks hard so I turn it off. Game is still fun, combat's a little dull.
Disliking a gimmick, and I stress the fact it's a GIMMICK, does not shut some imaginary door. I also think that the character design is a little blah. OH NOES STOP PLAYING THAT GAME I think monkeys are a little played out NO MORE DONKEY KONG FOR YOU THEN
There's lots of RPG customisation stuff in the hub area (which may not be included in the trial? I'm not sure.).
Also, people hating the narrator. Not simply disliking, but hating him? WELP. There goes your enjoyment of the story.
And? Are you saying there's no way you'd play the game if there wasn't a narrator in it? Sound like the game isn't for you then if all your playing it for is narration. You can get that in March of the Penguins, FYI. (We'll ignore the fact I already said the game is fun.)
I will never understand this mindset that if you aren't playing a game for the same reason someone else is people start pulling out "The game isn't for you" line. Jesus I got the same thing in Dungeon Siege 3 because I didn't like how flippy one of the characters was and is Sims3 because I don't really care to redecorate my houses.
IN ANY CASE
For those of you further on, are there any environmental obstacles or bosses you need specific weapons for or is it pretty much use whatever you like best till the end of the game? I remember a hands on earlier complaining that the weapons mean very little in the overall game.
Jesus Christ. Ya know what? I can turn on subtitles and I get the whole story. I just don't have to hear the Captain of the Trailer Park telling it to me.
It's more like Legend of Mana or FFT:A in it's building aspects than Dark Cloud.
That's a shame. I would have absolutely slapped them with money if it were the latter. Oh well.
EDIT: i just realized since zulf was in my end cinematic, i'm guessing there's technically 4 different endings you can get on the first play through. maybe more after new game+...
i'm actually surprised people dislike this game. it's got a lot of charm, cool back story, and just amazing art design. hits the right points for me, and all the weapons and upgrades keep it fresh. it's fun to mix and match weapons and see which work best.
Here are the changes/other stuff as far as I know:
I haven't unlocked the memorial or lost and found yet so I don't know if there are addition quests or addition things that can be bought.
As for the narration, I can only imagine that anyone complaining about the various 'redneck' qualities of the voice acting isn't paying very much attention to the overall tone of Bastion. If you look past the art style even a tiny bit you will find a game with a strong Western (as in cowboys, frontiers, and pioneering) aesthetic and a wonderfully matched voice. Have you ever actually been to a trailer park? Anywhere in rural America? They don't sound like that. If it helps, close your eyes and picture Sam Elliot.
I finished the game yesterday. The combat, leveling, and the difficulty idol mechanic are my favorite things about this game. What turned me off is the narrow level design, it's like an action-rpg on rails most of the time. And the tiles-drop-from-sky effect is aesthetically nice but it makes the little exploration afforded to you really tedious, they should have scaled it down considerably maybe to just the cinematic moments. Also, the late stage enemies are obnoxious as fuck. Not difficult obnoxious, but just obnoxious.
And I liked the narrator's voice just fine, but the stuff he was saying at the end of the game was just nonsense. It was like listening to a nerd friend go over the entire plot of his favorite fantasy book series. I kept thinking "yeah yeah sure, now shut the fuck up".
Also, the game is still very cool. I kind of want the soundtrack.
If you have trouble with the Bow one, wait until you get the DoT upgrade and come back. The dots affect the targets so they should be destroyed in one shot without needing to time out the power shot.
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I beat the game last night, will definitely new game plus it and go for the different options at the end. I very much enjoyed the entire experience.
War Machete is awfully punishing for doing it the wrong way. Good thing you can restart!
the only review I've read so far where they referred to the narrator as not a good thing (not even a bad thing), was by the same guy who gave Assassins Creed 2 a 4.5/10.
So... yeah I think some of the hate here is a bit of an anomaly.
Still, if you find you cannot enjoy the smooth, wise, world-weary tone of the narrator, then I would recommend turning the subtitles on. They do a really good job of teasing the story here and there.
One thing that seemed odd to me was that I saved the guy at the end, carried him the exit and then...nothing. No one made any mention of it, which I thought was a little off.
Overall a brilliant game.
I would love a soundtrack
This stuff is hard!
Considering both the studio twitter and the composer's twitter has been bombarded with soundtrack related questions, to which the response seems to be "We're looking into it." and "A possibility." I'm hopeful.
Now excuse me while I go and sit in the Bastion with the Gramophone playing Build That Wall or whatever you want to call the vocal track for the 15th time.
I had to place the controller on the table and use my index finger to even get close.
Fantastic game and despite the sombre tone it was just the pick me up I needed right now.
An easy way to do the pistol range, in spoilers just in case.
i couldn't even resist long enough to come check the forums to see if it was as awesome as it looks
happy to see this thread