Generally, Rosewill PSU are treated as if they're infected with Ebola. But I remember reading that some of their high-end stuff is better than most of their crap lineup. I can't really find a whole lost of testing information on it, but hopefully @Alecthar might be able to dig something up on it. If it's not a low build quality piece of crap (as alot of cheap Rosewill PSUs are), and they're spec sticking isn't lying, that would be plenty to power your system.
If it's similarly built to the 950W version, this review seems to think it a rather unspectacular but decent PSU.
And that HDD is perfectly serviceable. Unless you need more storage space, I'd be tempted to just reuse it.
You could put the money from the PSU and HDD towards your GPU or CPU.
I voted to toss the Antec Eco Neo 520 on the list. My current is only 20 A per 12 V supply (has 4) and the cards recommend a minimum of 24 A. For the HDD, I'll just buy a new one to keep my old machine in working order.
Plus, my CPU was just purchased. Intel i5-2500K for $149.99+Tax ($160). I could throw a Hyper212 on that PL and have the same cost as the i5-2400 on Newegg. I think what I'll do is purchase all the stuff on the list that is currently under September discounts (Mobo, RAM, HDD and PSU) and wait until Monday to see if the Video Card (or another similar 560) goes on sale.
My last upgrade was 3 years ago. My intent for this build is to last me another 3 or so. I think I've settled on an i5. Now it's just a matter of the 2400 vs 2500K. It comes down to ~$70 more for an extra maybe 1 GHz down the road? ($30 now, plus ~$27 for Hyper 212+ and $12 for some new thermal grease, unless the Hyper 212+ comes with a grease pad)
This is probably why I only upgrade every 3-4 years; shit gives me grey hair.
The Hyper212+ comes with thermal paste.
Unless it was my case that came with the paste?
I'm pretty sure it was the cooler.
It does come with it's own thermal paste. It's pretty decent but I ended up picking up some AS5 anyways.
Generally, Rosewill PSU are treated as if they're infected with Ebola. But I remember reading that some of their high-end stuff is better than most of their crap lineup. I can't really find a whole lost of testing information on it, but hopefully @Alecthar might be able to dig something up on it. If it's not a low build quality piece of crap (as alot of cheap Rosewill PSUs are), and they're spec sticking isn't lying, that would be plenty to power your system.
If it's similarly built to the 950W version, this review seems to think it a rather unspectacular but decent PSU.
And that HDD is perfectly serviceable. Unless you need more storage space, I'd be tempted to just reuse it.
You could put the money from the PSU and HDD towards your GPU or CPU.
I voted to toss the Antec Eco Neo 520 on the list. My current is only 20 A per 12 V supply (has 4) and the cards recommend a minimum of 24 A. For the HDD, I'll just buy a new one to keep my old machine in working order.
Plus, my CPU was just purchased. Intel i5-2500K for $149.99+Tax ($160). I could throw a Hyper212 on that PL and have the same cost as the i5-2400 on Newegg. I think what I'll do is purchase all the stuff on the list that is currently under September discounts (Mobo, RAM, HDD and PSU) and wait until Monday to see if the Video Card (or another similar 560) goes on sale.
Sounds good. But just so you know, I'm pretty sure the GPU specs are recommending a total of 24A on the 12V rails. Not 24A on a single rail.
Generally, Rosewill PSU are treated as if they're infected with Ebola. But I remember reading that some of their high-end stuff is better than most of their crap lineup. I can't really find a whole lost of testing information on it, but hopefully @Alecthar might be able to dig something up on it. If it's not a low build quality piece of crap (as alot of cheap Rosewill PSUs are), and they're spec sticking isn't lying, that would be plenty to power your system.
If it's similarly built to the 950W version, this review seems to think it a rather unspectacular but decent PSU.
And that HDD is perfectly serviceable. Unless you need more storage space, I'd be tempted to just reuse it.
You could put the money from the PSU and HDD towards your GPU or CPU.
I voted to toss the Antec Eco Neo 520 on the list. My current is only 20 A per 12 V supply (has 4) and the cards recommend a minimum of 24 A. For the HDD, I'll just buy a new one to keep my old machine in working order.
Plus, my CPU was just purchased. Intel i5-2500K for $149.99+Tax ($160). I could throw a Hyper212 on that PL and have the same cost as the i5-2400 on Newegg. I think what I'll do is purchase all the stuff on the list that is currently under September discounts (Mobo, RAM, HDD and PSU) and wait until Monday to see if the Video Card (or another similar 560) goes on sale.
Sounds good. But just so you know, I'm pretty sure the GPU specs are recommending a total of 24A on the 12V rails. Not 24A on a single rail.
It uses multiple rails? I know there are two connectors; does that imply two separate rails?
I have this power supply from my old computer. I was curious if you guys think that is enough juice to run an i5-2500K, GTX 570, HD,SSD,..etc.
I think it should be fine but I want to be sure.
so if I have 4cx80mm fan spots on the front of my case can I instead use 1x120mm( or would it be 160mm?) instead? Which would be best for dealing with heat?
Hey, guys, quick question regarding my upgrade, if anyone's willing to help.
I've got a new video card coming in tomorrow, and I suddenly thought to myself, "Hey, it would be kind of a waste to just throw out that old one." So, I figure I'd use it as a dedicated PhysX card. Just need to know if my power supply can handle it. The new card is an Nvidia GTX 560, old one is an 8800GT (both factory overclocked as far as they can go, from what I can tell). I've got a 550w OCZ PSU, powering a Core2 Duo E8400 @ 3.0GHz and two sticks of RAM (4GB). Oh, also three big fans in the case, if that matters. Could also use a quick runthrough of the installation process; I've never had two cards in one machine before. Do I just stick the new one in there, download the drivers, and configure them with the Nvidia control panel? Also, how badly is my processor bottlenecking my system? Can't really afford to upgrade that right now, but I'd like to know if upgrading the video card will at least give a significant boost in performance. Thanks, guys!
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Yesterday I bought an i5 2500k off of Amazon I checked Microcenter yesterday and it was like $180. I am sad.
That sucks. But, even at $180, it's still a good deal. Newegg is still $220.
Just ordered my RAM, Mobo and HDD. Decided I'll give my old PSU a shot in the new build (says 4 12V rails limited to 20 A, but a combined 50 A on the 12 V rail. Since the 560 GTX uses 2 of the connectors, I imagine it will be fine and saves me $55.). I'll wait until next week to see if any GPU deals pop up.
right....no. hahahahaha. I don't know what i was thinking. it's 2x2. Has anybody here ever put one big fan instead of 4 80mm's? What size did you use and how much better was the cooling? Or was it not better?
There is a high chance that I will be going to Microcenter today.
$150? That's insane.
They have done a killer job of keeping these Sandy Bridge procs cheeeeeap. They often offer another 30-50 bucks off if you buy a mobo along with the processor.
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There is a high chance that I will be going to Microcenter today.
$150? That's insane.
They have done a killer job of keeping these Sandy Bridge procs cheeeeeap. They often offer another 30-50 bucks off if you buy a mobo along with the processor.
I checked while there. Only CPU/Mobo deal they had was for the i7.
Copied from my other thread. Seems more appropriate here:
Anyways, it's been about 3.5 years since my current computer was built. Surprisingly it still runs pretty well, but it's time to build a new one...Skyrim is just around the corner.
So within the next month or so, I plan on spending around $1000-$12000 on a new box. I already have peripherals, monitor, OS, etc etc. This money will soley be for the Case, PSU, CPU, video card, ram, HDD, etc etc.
I unfortunately have not kept up with technology trends the past couple years, so I feel woefully lacking in knowledge. Here's where you guys come in. Mind helping me spend my money?
I do know I'd like a solid state drive for the windows partition and possibly one or two main games. Is it worth it?
Who currently makes the best video card...ATI or NVidia? I currently have an ATI 9870 1gb (I think...I'm not at home right now). It was probably the best card out there when I bought it (except for the higher end version that was essentially 2 of the same card combined).
I'm pretty open to suggestions. My main concern is building something that lasts again for a couple of years at least with minimal issues. I spent a long time researching last time, and found that as far as stability was concerned, it was my best build ever. Hopefully I can repeat that again.
When it comes to performance, I would hope at that price things would run pretty dang smoothly at high settings.
Edit: I'd prefer this thing isn't too loud either. I understand the video card can make some noise, and that's ok. But I don't plan on putting some aftermarket fan on it or the CPU Heatsink. I'll probably use a few larger fans on the case to help reduce noise as well.
So someone told me that I should be able to run Furmark for Atleast 30 minutes. Hahaha.
I just tried it and... Well, Posting this from My phone so things didn't ho too well. Ran the default burn in test, at whatever the resolution its already set to and it managed to switch off my display within 2 minutes. But temperature was at 76C so I don't understand why it would do that?
Factory over clocked gtx460 Btw. Its the SSC Backplate edition.
right....no. hahahahaha. I don't know what i was thinking. it's 2x2. Has anybody here ever put one big fan instead of 4 80mm's? What size did you use and how much better was the cooling? Or was it not better?
What case is it exactly?
One bigger fan would be better because it will be quiet. 80mm fans are screamers.
There is a high chance that I will be going to Microcenter today.
$150? That's insane.
They have done a killer job of keeping these Sandy Bridge procs cheeeeeap. They often offer another 30-50 bucks off if you buy a mobo along with the processor.
I checked while there. Only CPU/Mobo deal they had was for the i7.
Anyone have a suggestions for thermal grease while I'm over there? Or should I just grab something off Newegg?
Anyone have a suggestions for thermal grease while I'm over there? Or should I just grab something off Newegg?
Not an expert, but in the past I've always used Arctic Silver 5. It's been pretty solid. The smallest tube was like $12 or $13 on Newegg and I saw it at my Microcenter for $10. I'd say take a quick look at Newegg and if it's cheaper at Microcenter, snag it there. Personally, I'm just going stock with my 2500K.
Well I'm going to be installing it under a stock cooler which is on an i3-2100 right now, and I'll probably pick up a new cooler for it soon. I've heard good things about Arctic Silver in the past, so I'll grab that.
So, my 9800GT might be dead (it could be a driver issue but I'm sort of doubting it). I don't really care about upgrading to any extent, so what would be a decent equivalent card that would be fairly inexpensive right now?
There is a high chance that I will be going to Microcenter today.
$150? That's insane.
They have done a killer job of keeping these Sandy Bridge procs cheeeeeap. They often offer another 30-50 bucks off if you buy a mobo along with the processor.
I checked while there. Only CPU/Mobo deal they had was for the i7.
Anyone have a suggestions for thermal grease while I'm over there? Or should I just grab something off Newegg?
I picked up some Arctic Cooling MX-4 which is supposed to be really good. Ive yet to use it though, mainly because apparently the H70 comes with Shin Etsu which is also supposed to be really good. Every day I debate about switching pastes. I doubt I'd see a difference, but the Shin Etsu looks pretty thick...
So on the SSD front, are there still issues with the sandforce controllers (2280x2281)?
I've been pondering dropping in a 120GB and from what I've read so far I should choose intel 510, then the M4 that crucial uses, then lastly any of the sandforce options.
I could use some advice on the SSD front, as well.
I'm currently using a 300gb WD Raptor with a 60gb SSD cache via Intel rapid storage, but the HD is whining like a bitch and I think it is going to die soon. Instead of getting another HDD, I figure I might as well just get an SSD unless it is still worthwhile to wait another iteration or two.
The PSU was quality when I got it. Even has a useless fan control on the back. 500w.
It's all unplugged and I don't know what works and what doesn't but I'm curious what 8xAGP GPU I might be able to pick up and use this for if a friend comes over to at least be able to play CS:S or Portal 2. I mean I used to have a 6600GT that could play those (though I don't know where it is).
Thanks again guys for the heads up on the i5-2500K.
So, what should I be looking at as a new heatsink if I'm going to overclock? I was looking at this XIGMATEK.
@Weretaco
As far as SSDs go, I don't know a ton, but my brother is running an Intel 510 and it is pretty impressive. Probably your best bet is to go trawling through some of the better hardware sites and see what real data is out there in terms of reliability. I don't think the speed difference is that huge across the price range (given that you'll be comparing it to an HDD).
hahaha, yea the move to PCIx was timed well enough for me when I moved to OS X because it meant I would have to upgrade my whole system and not just my card 0.o
But yea, did anything come after that as AGP cards go? What was king before PCIx fully took over? I saw a 2GB 4650 I think, but it couldn't even play Far Cry 2 on 1024...which I thought was absurd because my 8600m can play it higher than that 0.o
So on the SSD front, are there still issues with the sandforce controllers (2280x2281)?
I've been pondering dropping in a 120GB and from what I've read so far I should choose intel 510, then the M4 that crucial uses, then lastly any of the sandforce options.
i've got a 120gig OCZ agility 3, uses the sandforce 2281 controller. It definitely had crash issues when I first installed it but after I got it updated to the latest firmware it's been rock solid, and I've heard the same from a friend with the same drive
I'm pretty sure any of the sandforce drives are great drives so long as you actually get the up to date firmware.
Hey, guys, does anyone know anything about using a dedicated GPU for PhysX? My computer didn't blow up when I put both cards in there, so I'm assuming my PSU can handle it, but I'm not noticing any performance increase when using PhysX enabled games. Shouldn't some of the burden be taken off of my CPU? It's still running both cores at 100%. I even tried taking the old card out and running a couple of games at full capabilities, and they run exactly the same. Pretty sure everything's set up properly in the Nvidia control panel. Got a GTX 560 (main) and an 8800GT (for PhysX), an E8400 Core2 Duo at 3.0GHz, 4 gigs of RAM, running off a 550w PSU. Testing in Mirror's Edge and Arkham Asylum. Also, there's some annoying stuttering when I'm playing CoD Black Ops. Everything's running at a full 60fps+, then it gets jittery or hangs for a second or two, and goes back to normal. Can I assume that's due to my CPU bottlenecking my system? Thanks.
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Did you set the physx controller in the Nvidia control panel? set it to the gpu you want as a physx card. Never leave it on auto, my games were terrible.
Yes! that's gotta be the culprit slowing my PC down and causing it to hang, not freeze just hang like its working hard.
Heatsink on southbridge is moving and is right under the gpu. I reckon its overheating and causing it all to slowdown. With strange second or so freezes in games every so often. I don't think Theres a fix for it so a new full ATX mobo is on the cards..... For next month. Hopefully it all holds together till then.
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I voted to toss the Antec Eco Neo 520 on the list. My current is only 20 A per 12 V supply (has 4) and the cards recommend a minimum of 24 A. For the HDD, I'll just buy a new one to keep my old machine in working order.
Plus, my CPU was just purchased. Intel i5-2500K for $149.99+Tax ($160). I could throw a Hyper212 on that PL and have the same cost as the i5-2400 on Newegg. I think what I'll do is purchase all the stuff on the list that is currently under September discounts (Mobo, RAM, HDD and PSU) and wait until Monday to see if the Video Card (or another similar 560) goes on sale.
It does come with it's own thermal paste. It's pretty decent but I ended up picking up some AS5 anyways.
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Sounds good. But just so you know, I'm pretty sure the GPU specs are recommending a total of 24A on the 12V rails. Not 24A on a single rail.
It uses multiple rails? I know there are two connectors; does that imply two separate rails?
I think it should be fine but I want to be sure.
if it's a 2x2 grid you could most likely rig something up to mount a 120, or even a 140.
Otherwise you are pretty much stuck with 80s.
Your case has 16 80mm fans? o_O
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Core i5 2500K LGA 1155 for $249.99 $149.99.
Yeah, I went and bought mine earlier.
I've got a new video card coming in tomorrow, and I suddenly thought to myself, "Hey, it would be kind of a waste to just throw out that old one." So, I figure I'd use it as a dedicated PhysX card. Just need to know if my power supply can handle it. The new card is an Nvidia GTX 560, old one is an 8800GT (both factory overclocked as far as they can go, from what I can tell). I've got a 550w OCZ PSU, powering a Core2 Duo E8400 @ 3.0GHz and two sticks of RAM (4GB). Oh, also three big fans in the case, if that matters. Could also use a quick runthrough of the installation process; I've never had two cards in one machine before. Do I just stick the new one in there, download the drivers, and configure them with the Nvidia control panel? Also, how badly is my processor bottlenecking my system? Can't really afford to upgrade that right now, but I'd like to know if upgrading the video card will at least give a significant boost in performance. Thanks, guys!
Ah shit, I missed that. I dunno if I wanna drive to Dallas just for this. :?
Yesterday I bought an i5 2500k off of Amazon
That sucks. But, even at $180, it's still a good deal. Newegg is still $220.
Just ordered my RAM, Mobo and HDD. Decided I'll give my old PSU a shot in the new build (says 4 12V rails limited to 20 A, but a combined 50 A on the 12 V rail. Since the 560 GTX uses 2 of the connectors, I imagine it will be fine and saves me $55.). I'll wait until next week to see if any GPU deals pop up.
$150? That's insane.
right....no. hahahahaha. I don't know what i was thinking. it's 2x2. Has anybody here ever put one big fan instead of 4 80mm's? What size did you use and how much better was the cooling? Or was it not better?
They have done a killer job of keeping these Sandy Bridge procs cheeeeeap. They often offer another 30-50 bucks off if you buy a mobo along with the processor.
I checked while there. Only CPU/Mobo deal they had was for the i7.
Anyways, it's been about 3.5 years since my current computer was built. Surprisingly it still runs pretty well, but it's time to build a new one...Skyrim is just around the corner.
So within the next month or so, I plan on spending around $1000-$12000 on a new box. I already have peripherals, monitor, OS, etc etc. This money will soley be for the Case, PSU, CPU, video card, ram, HDD, etc etc.
I unfortunately have not kept up with technology trends the past couple years, so I feel woefully lacking in knowledge. Here's where you guys come in. Mind helping me spend my money?
I do know I'd like a solid state drive for the windows partition and possibly one or two main games. Is it worth it?
Who currently makes the best video card...ATI or NVidia? I currently have an ATI 9870 1gb (I think...I'm not at home right now). It was probably the best card out there when I bought it (except for the higher end version that was essentially 2 of the same card combined).
I'm pretty open to suggestions. My main concern is building something that lasts again for a couple of years at least with minimal issues. I spent a long time researching last time, and found that as far as stability was concerned, it was my best build ever. Hopefully I can repeat that again.
When it comes to performance, I would hope at that price things would run pretty dang smoothly at high settings.
Edit: I'd prefer this thing isn't too loud either. I understand the video card can make some noise, and that's ok. But I don't plan on putting some aftermarket fan on it or the CPU Heatsink. I'll probably use a few larger fans on the case to help reduce noise as well.
I just tried it and... Well, Posting this from My phone so things didn't ho too well. Ran the default burn in test, at whatever the resolution its already set to and it managed to switch off my display within 2 minutes. But temperature was at 76C so I don't understand why it would do that?
Factory over clocked gtx460 Btw. Its the SSC Backplate edition.
What case is it exactly?
One bigger fan would be better because it will be quiet. 80mm fans are screamers.
Anyone have a suggestions for thermal grease while I'm over there? Or should I just grab something off Newegg?
Not an expert, but in the past I've always used Arctic Silver 5. It's been pretty solid. The smallest tube was like $12 or $13 on Newegg and I saw it at my Microcenter for $10. I'd say take a quick look at Newegg and if it's cheaper at Microcenter, snag it there. Personally, I'm just going stock with my 2500K.
I picked up some Arctic Cooling MX-4 which is supposed to be really good. Ive yet to use it though, mainly because apparently the H70 comes with Shin Etsu which is also supposed to be really good. Every day I debate about switching pastes. I doubt I'd see a difference, but the Shin Etsu looks pretty thick...
I've been pondering dropping in a 120GB and from what I've read so far I should choose intel 510, then the M4 that crucial uses, then lastly any of the sandforce options.
I'm currently using a 300gb WD Raptor with a 60gb SSD cache via Intel rapid storage, but the HD is whining like a bitch and I think it is going to die soon. Instead of getting another HDD, I figure I might as well just get an SSD unless it is still worthwhile to wait another iteration or two.
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The PSU was quality when I got it. Even has a useless fan control on the back. 500w.
It's all unplugged and I don't know what works and what doesn't but I'm curious what 8xAGP GPU I might be able to pick up and use this for if a friend comes over to at least be able to play CS:S or Portal 2. I mean I used to have a 6600GT that could play those (though I don't know where it is).
What nostalgia!
So, what should I be looking at as a new heatsink if I'm going to overclock? I was looking at this XIGMATEK.
@Weretaco
As far as SSDs go, I don't know a ton, but my brother is running an Intel 510 and it is pretty impressive. Probably your best bet is to go trawling through some of the better hardware sites and see what real data is out there in terms of reliability. I don't think the speed difference is that huge across the price range (given that you'll be comparing it to an HDD).
hahaha, yea the move to PCIx was timed well enough for me when I moved to OS X because it meant I would have to upgrade my whole system and not just my card 0.o
But yea, did anything come after that as AGP cards go? What was king before PCIx fully took over? I saw a 2GB 4650 I think, but it couldn't even play Far Cry 2 on 1024...which I thought was absurd because my 8600m can play it higher than that 0.o
i've got a 120gig OCZ agility 3, uses the sandforce 2281 controller. It definitely had crash issues when I first installed it but after I got it updated to the latest firmware it's been rock solid, and I've heard the same from a friend with the same drive
I'm pretty sure any of the sandforce drives are great drives so long as you actually get the up to date firmware.
Heatsink on southbridge is moving and is right under the gpu. I reckon its overheating and causing it all to slowdown. With strange second or so freezes in games every so often. I don't think Theres a fix for it so a new full ATX mobo is on the cards..... For next month. Hopefully it all holds together till then.