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Leaving Friday afternoon July 2nd when I get off work. The route is gonna be like this.
Going to Montana to visit a friend. Not 100% how long we're gonna stay there. Have to be in Vancouver by the 8th for a concert. Going to Seattle before that because I have to be back at work by the 11th (maybe the 12th, thinking about requesting an extra day). Planning on getting up earlyish after that and going to Portland, OR for the afternoon/evening. At this point if I get the extra day off we'll wake up in the morning and go to Crater Lake, get a hotel in Crescent City, and visit Redwood National Park before heading home. If I don't we'll probably just drive straight back and MAYBE stop in Redwood National Park for a couple hours.
Now help me think of things to do/eat/see in Seattle, Vancouver, and Portland. I could have 2 or more days in Seattle/Vancouver depending on how we decide to split things up. Portland I don't really have enough time to visit so only tell me about the most awesome things there. I know next to nothing about these places. Will parking be a problem in any of them? I guess I'm supposed to visit Pike's Place Market in Seattle? I thought that was just the new crappy coffee from Starbucks, had no idea it was a place.
We both definitely like eating things, and looking at nature since we don't usually see a ton of it. Let me know if I'm missing anything really special with the way I have the route plotted now. I basically just went to Google Maps, plugged some places in, and adjusted for the maximum amount of driving through forests.
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Crater Lake is more than a bit of a drive, it's a goddamned day trip, and you're going to need to turn around and head back home almost immediately after getting there.
Crater Lake is more than a bit of a drive, it's a goddamned day trip, and you're going to need to turn around and head back home almost immediately after getting there.
Which is why I would take the extra day.
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I looked at how long it might take, it's a about a 6 hr drive ( portland to crater lake). You might need 2 days for that.
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If your set on crater lake, You might consider silver falls on the way. it's magnificent.
I'd highly recommend, if you have the time for a nature-related sidetrip on the Vancouver -> Seattle leg, to stop by Deception Pass. I've lived my whole life in western Washington, and it's probably the coolest area I've seen
I'd also suggest modifying that eastward slog on I-90 - if there's a more boring drive in the country I don't know what it is. There are some alternatives, but they'll all take longer.
I'd highly recommend, if you have the time for a nature-related sidetrip on the Vancouver -> Seattle leg, to stop by Deception Pass. I've lived my whole life in western Washington, and it's probably the coolest area I've seen
Deception Pass is awesome. Whidbey Island and the surrounding area is some of the best camping in Washington.
Crater Lake is also awesome, but definitely out of the way. I went with family for a few days (stayed at the cabins) when I was 17, and to be quite honest there's not a whole lot to do there, other than take pictures and go on the boat tour (which is great).
But by god, that view!
And holy shit man. Visit Pike's Place Market in Seattle. Then come up to Vancouver and visit Granville Island. If you have time, spend a few hours in Stanley Park - either walk around the seawall, explore the trails or check out the Vancouver Aquarium.
I'd also suggest modifying that eastward slog on I-90 - if there's a more boring drive in the country I don't know what it is. There are some alternatives, but they'll all take longer.
Yeah do US Highway 2 past Spokane, hit up the Dry Falls near Coulee City and pack a picnic meal to eat there, it is super rad. From there you can stay on 2 or if you want to get some more vistas, go SW through Ephrata and roll through the Columbia River Gorge, pretty rad. Then you are kind of stuck with I-90 the rest of the way to Seattle. Modified route.
You could also take I-82 up to the Columbia River and follow that back to I-5. Or just hang with I-82 until Yakima and then take White Pass - this will take you dead on to Mt. Ranier too which would be a nice place to hit. It'll be fourth of July so you won't be camping there, but even just the day areas are more than worth taking in even if you just drive up to Paradise. It will be a lot longer drive, though.
Checking the map again, the route from Spokane to Ellensburg (which is just above Yakima, and more or less the halfway point between Spokane and Seattle) is ugly as sin and boring as hell. However, seeing as how driving through Mt. Rainier National Park would be breathtaking, that pretty much requires you to drive through Yakima.
Big-I did raise some good points though, because along that Spokane to Ellensburg route you can see Dry Falls, and if you take a small detour, Grand Coulee Dam. In fact, you should probably skip I-90 entirely from Spokane to Seattle and travel through Route 2, which, with a small detour, would take you by Grand Coulee Dam and Lake Chelan, and take you right through some beautiful mountains, forests, and Leavenworth. You can take a detour on the way down from Seattle through Mt. Rainier National Park if you still want to see that.
Yeah, you wouldn't want to take 90 - Ellensburg - Yakima - Ranier. That's just brutal.
Really I guess I'd only do Rainier in that leg if you can get a place to stay in the park that night. That's a LONG ass drive with the detour to Rainier no matter how you do it if you're headed all the way to Seattle.
I really like the stretch of I-90 that goes through the Columbia River Gorge. But I don't know if 15 minutes of cool is worth the rest of I-90. You could hit the Gorge and then take Highway 12 the rest of the way but that adds an extra hour or two.
edit: Though, this guy's going to be driving through fucking Nevada. I-90 isn't going to be the most boring drive of the trip.
Also, Yakima is a hole. The three good things about Yakima is Miner's (fantastic burger joint), amazing Mexican food, and the Yakima Valley Wineries which are in the Yakima Valley, ironically, outside of Yakima so it barely even counts as being part of Yakima.
Also, Yakima is a hole. The three good things about Yakima is Miner's (fantastic burger joint), amazing Mexican food, and the Yakima Valley Wineries which are in the Yakima Valley, ironically, outside of Yakima so it barely even counts as being part of Yakima.
As someone who was born in Yakima, left Yakima, and came back specifically because it's a dirt-cheap hole with an undereducated workforce (live the in the one awesome part of town - because it's dirt cheap), this man speaks the truth. Yakima is not a destination; it's something you drive by to get to your destination.
Rainier is a destination worth driving past Yakima for.
If you like nature, you can go to the national bison range while you're in Montana. It's about 1 hour away from Missoula, which is about 40 min away from Victor. But the drive inside of it takes about 2 hours if you see a lot, if you don't see a lot however, you can breeze right through it.
It costs I think $5 per carload of people to get in (you pay at the visitors center). Some things you might see there: Bison, elk, black bear, mountain lions, big horn sheep, white tail deer, mule deer, pronghorn, coyote, bald eagles, golden eagles, red tailed hawks, and tons of other birds. Usually you will see bison, pronghorn, and both types of deer, and hawks. If you have them, bring binoculars.
A closer alternative to victor is Lee Metcalf Wildlife Refuge, which is just outside Stevensville, which is about 20min from victor. It's quite a bit shorter drive inside there, and takes maybe 10 -20 min to drive through. It's got a few nature trails that are very leisurely, and you can sometimes owls and bald eagles on these trails. At Lee Metcalf you will primarily see water birds: Various ducks, osprey, herons, geese, sometimes swans, loons, and mergansers, and white tail deer.
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Also, Yakima is a hole. The three good things about Yakima is Miner's (fantastic burger joint), amazing Mexican food, and the Yakima Valley Wineries which are in the Yakima Valley, ironically, outside of Yakima so it barely even counts as being part of Yakima.
As someone who was born in Yakima, left Yakima, and came back specifically because it's a dirt-cheap hole with an undereducated workforce (live the in the one awesome part of town - because it's dirt cheap), this man speaks the truth. Yakima is not a destination; it's something you drive by to get to your destination.
Rainier is a destination worth driving past Yakima for.
Yakima represent! Born and raised there myself, and I got the hell out of dodge as soon as I could. May I ask, what do you consider to be the one awesome part of town?
well, I live up in Alger, and if you like any combination of trees, a lake, a tavern, a gun store, and a race track, then this is the place for you! Because that's all we have. Oh, and there's a convenience store and a gas station but those aren't really "destinations" per se.
I happen to think it's the best place in the world, but that's just me. It's quiet, it's green, I can't see my neighbors, and it's not far from several different towns so it's very convenient. You'll drive by it on I-90 on your way to BC so consider stopping for some gas and maybe driving around the woods. There's a small mountain you can drive up not far from the gas station (which is right next to the freeway), and you can almost see the whole puget sound from up there, it's beautiful. Particularly at sunset. Sometimes hang-gliders jump off it, which is cool to see.
Mt. St. Helens is pretty cool, and not terribly out of the way. Go to the northside for a quick vista of the smoking ruins of the mountain, and if you wanted to spend a day there, the southside has a fun but brutal hike up to the crater rim. And there's some nice lakes in the valley below that weren't annhilated in the eruption.
The portland people have given the highlights of that place, some good stuff there. Also check out some of our fine local breweries and their brewpubs, if you're into that. Bridgeport and Widmer are the big ones, but there are also a lot of much smaller ones, New Old Lompoc, hair of the dog, HUB, lucky lab... lots more that I can't remember offhand.
Also, Yakima is a hole. The three good things about Yakima is Miner's (fantastic burger joint), amazing Mexican food, and the Yakima Valley Wineries which are in the Yakima Valley, ironically, outside of Yakima so it barely even counts as being part of Yakima.
As someone who was born in Yakima, left Yakima, and came back specifically because it's a dirt-cheap hole with an undereducated workforce (live the in the one awesome part of town - because it's dirt cheap), this man speaks the truth. Yakima is not a destination; it's something you drive by to get to your destination.
Rainier is a destination worth driving past Yakima for.
Yakima represent! Born and raised there myself, and I got the hell out of dodge as soon as I could. May I ask, what do you consider to be the one awesome part of town?
This neighborhood. We're really only here because of how cheap it is (also a good place to start a career, since there's virtually no competition for entry level stuff), but it's a nice old neighborhood surrounding by 60-70 miles of either nothing or nearly third world living in any given direction.
I'd highly recommend, if you have the time for a nature-related sidetrip on the Vancouver -> Seattle leg, to stop by Deception Pass. I've lived my whole life in western Washington, and it's probably the coolest area I've seen
This and the Ice Caves for Washington.
If you can plan it around hitting San Francisco around dinner time on your trip that's when a lot of cool stuff is happening there too.
I also hear Vancouver has some great surfing, if that's something you're into
I don't think Vancouver has the waves for surfing. Windsurfing yes! We have the wind and the chop.
One more thing for the OP: are you coming through Peace Arch to get into Canada? Because this is pretty much the worst week you could possibly pick for trying to get through the border. Canada Day and July 4th. Ugh. I have NEXUS and I still wouldn't dare attempt peace arch unless I had an hour or two to kill.
edit: I guess if you leave crossing till the 7th or the 8th it wont be so bad. Just be careful because it will be relatively busy everywhere regardless.?
I don't think Vancouver has the waves for surfing. Windsurfing yes! We have the wind and the chop.
Really? I was told there was a place with excellent surfing. Can't remember where exactly near Vancouver though
Definitely not. We do have the currents but it's not nearly powerful enough for surfing. But as this website says, under just the right conditions, you might be able to do it around Third Beach off Stanley Park, if it's especially windy. Which makes sense, since the currents curve around the Wreck Beach and the UBC peninsula and hit English Bay. So it's possible I suppose but definitely rare.
We don't really get large waves, or at least like the type you'd find on the open ocean around the Pacific Rim. Too much interference. Lots of fast moving chop during PNW windstorms but not especially large waves. That's why windsurfers are a common sight in English Bay, and especially Squamish Inlet. Surfing pretty much has to be on the west coast of Vancouver Island (Tofino and Long Beach being one of the best places in North America) or Olympic Peninsula of Washington State (think La Push and you've got the idea).
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We both definitely like eating things, and looking at nature since we don't usually see a ton of it. Let me know if I'm missing anything really special with the way I have the route plotted now. I basically just went to Google Maps, plugged some places in, and adjusted for the maximum amount of driving through forests.
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Worth the time to see one of the best remaining arcades out there. While your in that area- Voodoo doughnuts( http://voodoodoughnut.com/menu.php )and possibly ( http://www.montageportland.com/ )
If you get in during the afternoon, a stop at the portland international test rose garden is fantastic.
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Which is why I would take the extra day.
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If your set on crater lake, You might consider silver falls on the way. it's magnificent.
http://www.oregonstateparks.org/park_211.php
Some really impressive falls.
Weird, Google Maps says that it's only 4 1/2.
Deception Pass is awesome. Whidbey Island and the surrounding area is some of the best camping in Washington.
Crater Lake is also awesome, but definitely out of the way. I went with family for a few days (stayed at the cabins) when I was 17, and to be quite honest there's not a whole lot to do there, other than take pictures and go on the boat tour (which is great).
But by god, that view!
And holy shit man. Visit Pike's Place Market in Seattle. Then come up to Vancouver and visit Granville Island. If you have time, spend a few hours in Stanley Park - either walk around the seawall, explore the trails or check out the Vancouver Aquarium.
Yeah do US Highway 2 past Spokane, hit up the Dry Falls near Coulee City and pack a picnic meal to eat there, it is super rad. From there you can stay on 2 or if you want to get some more vistas, go SW through Ephrata and roll through the Columbia River Gorge, pretty rad. Then you are kind of stuck with I-90 the rest of the way to Seattle. Modified route.
Also, Pike's Place Market in Seattle is full of tourists but I've always enjoyed it.
Big-I did raise some good points though, because along that Spokane to Ellensburg route you can see Dry Falls, and if you take a small detour, Grand Coulee Dam. In fact, you should probably skip I-90 entirely from Spokane to Seattle and travel through Route 2, which, with a small detour, would take you by Grand Coulee Dam and Lake Chelan, and take you right through some beautiful mountains, forests, and Leavenworth. You can take a detour on the way down from Seattle through Mt. Rainier National Park if you still want to see that.
Really I guess I'd only do Rainier in that leg if you can get a place to stay in the park that night. That's a LONG ass drive with the detour to Rainier no matter how you do it if you're headed all the way to Seattle.
edit: Though, this guy's going to be driving through fucking Nevada. I-90 isn't going to be the most boring drive of the trip.
Rainier is a destination worth driving past Yakima for.
It costs I think $5 per carload of people to get in (you pay at the visitors center). Some things you might see there: Bison, elk, black bear, mountain lions, big horn sheep, white tail deer, mule deer, pronghorn, coyote, bald eagles, golden eagles, red tailed hawks, and tons of other birds. Usually you will see bison, pronghorn, and both types of deer, and hawks. If you have them, bring binoculars.
A closer alternative to victor is Lee Metcalf Wildlife Refuge, which is just outside Stevensville, which is about 20min from victor. It's quite a bit shorter drive inside there, and takes maybe 10 -20 min to drive through. It's got a few nature trails that are very leisurely, and you can sometimes owls and bald eagles on these trails. At Lee Metcalf you will primarily see water birds: Various ducks, osprey, herons, geese, sometimes swans, loons, and mergansers, and white tail deer.
Yakima represent! Born and raised there myself, and I got the hell out of dodge as soon as I could. May I ask, what do you consider to be the one awesome part of town?
I happen to think it's the best place in the world, but that's just me. It's quiet, it's green, I can't see my neighbors, and it's not far from several different towns so it's very convenient. You'll drive by it on I-90 on your way to BC so consider stopping for some gas and maybe driving around the woods. There's a small mountain you can drive up not far from the gas station (which is right next to the freeway), and you can almost see the whole puget sound from up there, it's beautiful. Particularly at sunset. Sometimes hang-gliders jump off it, which is cool to see.
It's a nice little mountain town. Get lunch at Tacos Jalisco. Best Mexican food I've ever had.
Truckee also happens to be my hometown, so I'm a little biased, but if you like charming small towns, it's worth a stop, I promise.
Heh, been there done that. Grew up in Grass Valley.
The portland people have given the highlights of that place, some good stuff there. Also check out some of our fine local breweries and their brewpubs, if you're into that. Bridgeport and Widmer are the big ones, but there are also a lot of much smaller ones, New Old Lompoc, hair of the dog, HUB, lucky lab... lots more that I can't remember offhand.
This and the Ice Caves for Washington.
If you can plan it around hitting San Francisco around dinner time on your trip that's when a lot of cool stuff is happening there too.
I also hear Vancouver has some great surfing, if that's something you're into
One more thing for the OP: are you coming through Peace Arch to get into Canada? Because this is pretty much the worst week you could possibly pick for trying to get through the border. Canada Day and July 4th. Ugh. I have NEXUS and I still wouldn't dare attempt peace arch unless I had an hour or two to kill.
edit: I guess if you leave crossing till the 7th or the 8th it wont be so bad. Just be careful because it will be relatively busy everywhere regardless.?
Really? I was told there was a place with excellent surfing. Can't remember where exactly near Vancouver though
Definitely not. We do have the currents but it's not nearly powerful enough for surfing. But as this website says, under just the right conditions, you might be able to do it around Third Beach off Stanley Park, if it's especially windy. Which makes sense, since the currents curve around the Wreck Beach and the UBC peninsula and hit English Bay. So it's possible I suppose but definitely rare.
This is backed up here too: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110412170417AAncGii
We don't really get large waves, or at least like the type you'd find on the open ocean around the Pacific Rim. Too much interference. Lots of fast moving chop during PNW windstorms but not especially large waves. That's why windsurfers are a common sight in English Bay, and especially Squamish Inlet. Surfing pretty much has to be on the west coast of Vancouver Island (Tofino and Long Beach being one of the best places in North America) or Olympic Peninsula of Washington State (think La Push and you've got the idea).