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Jack Tretton's Offer?

DtotheGDtotheG Registered User regular
edited February 2007 in Games and Technology
Is it still on? I was at CompUSA today where they had 2 PS3s in stock.

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  • capable heartcapable heart Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    I don't think his offer was the kind of thing that anyone would ever expect to get paid for.

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  • randombattlerandombattle Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    It's about as solid as giant enemy crabs being in ancient japan.

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  • WillethWilleth Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    The interview took place in January, and right afterwards Dan Hsu rang round a load of stores for stock info and shot it off to Sony. No reply as of yet. They talked about it in last week's EGM Live* podcast.

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  • The Muffin ManThe Muffin Man Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    PA did a comic on it.

    Chances are he'll claim he was misquoted or something.

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  • sir_pinch-a-loafsir_pinch-a-loaf #YODORegistered User regular
    edited February 2007
    If I had a decent camera with me and any belief that Jack would pay out, I saw approx. 32 in one day. Costco had 3 pallets of 8, with 1 missing. By my calculations, I should be about $38,000 richer.

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  • plufimplufim Dr Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    The offer was pretty obviously only for the guy at EGM, not us.

    If Jack wanted to save face, he'd pay up to EGM, and, to turn this debacle into awesome, donate the sum of penny arcade's claim to child's play.

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  • ben0207ben0207 Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    randombattle wrote: »
    It's about as solid as giant enemy crabs being in ancient japan.

    That never happened?



    OH GOD MY HISTORY PAPER IS RUINED!

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  • Robo BeatRobo Beat Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    ben0207 wrote: »
    That never happened?



    OH GOD MY HISTORY PAPER IS RUINED!

    Well, that's what you get for trusting Sony.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    I didn't expect anything less from Sony; total bullshit.

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Zombiemambo wrote: »
    I didn't expect anything less from Sony; total bullshit.

    dot dot dot

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  • LBD_NytetraynLBD_Nytetrayn TorontoRegistered User regular
    edited February 2007
    PoisonMushroom.Org wrote: »
    Looks like "easy money" from Sony isn't so easy, after all.

    In the LiveJournal of someone who wishes to remain anonymous (yes, "does not forgive," we get all that), it was revealed that an e-mail was jokingly sent to Sony regarding recent statements:

    Message from Consumer:
    To whom it may concern:

    In a recent interview with EGM (Electronic Gaming Monthly) Magazine (found in the March 2007 issue),
    SCEA President and CEO Jack Tretton stated that he would, and I quote:
    "If you can find a PS3 anywhere in North America that's been on shelves for more than five minutes,
    I'll give you 1200 bucks for it."

    Well, at one store alone, a Fry's Electronics located in Phoenix, Arizona, I have taken a picture of
    a collection of PLAYSTATION 3 systems for sale. 47 of them to be exact.

    I would like to know how I can get in touch with Mr. Tretton so that he can pay me a bounty of
    USD$56,400 for the 47 PS3 systems I've found.

    Thank you.

    Sincerely,

    Surprisingly, Sony was kind enough to respond, and set the record straight:

    Thank you for writing us.

    We apologize for any confusion and thank you for your inquiry.

    We are able to confirm that the comment in question was directed at the editor of Electronic Gaming
    Monthly (EGM) and was merely said to demonstrate that the PLAYSTATION(R)3 computer entertainment
    systems were selling out during the November launch time. It was not a challenge to the general
    consumer.

    Additionally, we value your input and appreciate you bringing this to our attention. Please rest
    assured that we will convey your feedback to Sony Computer Entertainment America's ("SCEA")
    appropriate management. Again, we apologize for any confusion.

    If you have further questions regarding this message, please refer to your email case
    number:    (edited out for... I don't know, security. Yeah, let's say that.)

    Byron
    Multimedia CSR
    Sony Computer Entertainment America
    Consumer Services Department

    So unless your name is Dan Hsu, you probably aren't getting squat, no matter how many PS3s you find.

    Sorry, Gabe and Tycho and America at large.

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  • VoodooVVoodooV Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    There were 60 sitting on the floor at my local BB at one point

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  • DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited February 2007
    We should build a city out of PS3s to stop the stockpile and so there are more homes for people to play Wiis in.

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  • VeeveeVeevee WisconsinRegistered User regular
    edited February 2007
    LBD_Nytetrayn, I'm gong to miss poisonmushroom.org. I forgot about it, but during the PA break, its where I got all my news from. Hope everything turns out fine and you can start updating again.

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  • DtotheGDtotheG Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    I found 2 at a Target today...

    Looks like hinky ain't gon' get paid...

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  • Smacky The FrogSmacky The Frog Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    It's odd. Tretton usually knows what he's talking about, and if you read the REST of that interview you'll see that he does generally care about the consumer. It was like he was just out of touch on that particular fact.

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  • tulkastulkas Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Smacky The Frog wrote: »
    It's odd. Tretton usually knows what he's talking about, and if you read the REST of that interview you'll see that he does generally care about the consumer. It was like he was just out of touch on that particular fact.
    I felt that the entire interview smacked of arrogance.

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  • Smacky The FrogSmacky The Frog Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    tulkas wrote: »
    I felt that the entire interview smacked of arrogance.

    I don't really get it. To take a quick quote:

    "To ultimately be successful, you have to believe that every consumer matters. Not just the consumers in this territory, but consumers worldwide. And not just the hardcore consumer, not just the casual consumer...everybody matters."

    Also in the interview he admits that there were major mistakes made with the UMD format. The usual corporate banter is there, but I saw nothing overly arrogant.

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  • BiggNifeBiggNife Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Smacky The Frog wrote: »
    I don't really get it. To take a quick quote:

    "To ultimately be successful, you have to believe that every consumer matters. Not just the consumers in this territory, but consumers worldwide. And not just the hardcore consumer, not just the casual consumer...everybody matters."

    Also in the interview he admits that there were major mistakes made with the UMD format. The usual corporate banter is there, but I saw nothing overly arrogant.
    It just felt like generic PR stuff to me. I like that he admitted that they made mistakes with UMD, and in another part of the mag he says the PSP viral marketing website was a bad idea. But otherwise, just sounds like the same song and dance that Peter Moore and Reggie do.

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  • ToadTheMushroomToadTheMushroom Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Yeah but Peter Moore is not a fucking tool.

    And Reggie is a god among men,

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  • crash5scrash5s Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    BiggNife wrote: »
    It just felt like generic PR stuff to me. I like that he admitted that they made mistakes with UMD, and in another part of the mag he says the PSP viral marketing website was a bad idea. But otherwise, just sounds like the same song and dance that Peter Moore and Reggie do.

    There are PR moves, and then there are stupid arrogant statements.

    I like the CEO of voodooPC's stance on this.

    http://www.rahulsood.com/2007/02/badd-case-1.html

    To sum it up he says Sony has a case of BADD, Blind Arrogance, Developmental, Disorder

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  • deadonthestreetdeadonthestreet Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    ToadTheMushroom wrote: »
    Yeah but Peter Moore is not a fucking tool.
    Sure he is.

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  • Gaming-ModuleGaming-Module Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Smacky The Frog wrote: »
    It's odd. Tretton usually knows what he's talking about, and if you read the REST of that interview you'll see that he does generally care about the consumer. It was like he was just out of touch on that particular fact.

    I'm partially a student of public relations, and I can say with certainty that if I would have pre-screened his responses to that interview, I would have given him my professional opinion to scrap talking to Hsu or seriously work on his material.

    There was nothing good said throughout. You don't tell people that society has problems or that you have to "educate" anybody. You don't tell lies that are easily refutable and you certainly don't fucking let a reporter take pictures of you looking like a smug prick.

    I don't know what is going to happen to Sony's console operations over the next year or so, but I can say that it will have been Sony's fault entirely, one way or the other.

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  • Smacky The FrogSmacky The Frog Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Gaming-Module wrote: »
    I'm partially a student of public relations, and I can say with certainty that if I would have pre-screened his responses to that interview, I would have given him my professional opinion to scrap talking to Hsu or seriously work on his material.

    There was nothing good said throughout. You don't tell people that society has problems or that you have to "educate" anybody. You don't tell lies that are easily refutable and you certainly don't fucking let a reporter take pictures of you looking like a smug prick.

    I don't know what is going to happen to Sony's console operations over the next year or so, but I can say that it will have been Sony's fault entirely, one way or the other.

    Can you take some quotes from the interview and tell me exactly what you're talking about?

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  • LBD_NytetraynLBD_Nytetrayn TorontoRegistered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Veevee wrote: »
    LBD_Nytetrayn, I'm gong to miss poisonmushroom.org. I forgot about it, but during the PA break, its where I got all my news from. Hope everything turns out fine and you can start updating again.

    Hey, thanks, that means a lot. :) Hopefully I can be back in form there sooner than later, I really miss doing it.

    But if I don't find a way to make some money, there may not be a PMO at all. :\

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  • Gaming-ModuleGaming-Module Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Smacky The Frog wrote: »
    Can you take some quotes from the interview and tell me exactly what you're talking about?

    "The problem we have ... is society in general."

    Can of worms usually read "do not open."

    "We got a lot of press at E3 two years before PS3 launched."

    The question was, "How are you measuring this success?"

    Why even bring up E3 at all? He could have said any number of things, like Resistance being a top selling game or he could have cited market data, anything.

    "If you can find a PS3 anywhere in North America that's been on shelves for more than five minutes, I'll give you 1,200 bucks for it."

    This one needs no further comment.

    "Not only did people camp out for them, they resold them at a $2,500 profit overnight - yeah, I'm pretty dissapointed with our launch."

    Smug.

    "Time magazine ... I did an interview with Time magazine - the guy did his first interview ever on the games industry, touched his first machine two days before that, so I would argue that Time magazine may not be as plugged in to the consumer or the gamer..."

    Taking on Time magazine is one thing, but Tretton is referencing the journalist that interviewed him for a seperate article. The article EGM is talking about is a different piece that analyzes the PS3 post-launch.

    After this point things start to look up, as they are getting into the topics of online and software support, one of which is an unknown right now and the other is definately a strong suit.

    "We have to educate people..."

    Nitpick, but I would have gone with "inform."

    Oh well. That's about all I'm doing for now.

    Upon rereading it, he did do well in spots, but the above quotes and the overall tone could have used some work.

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  • YodaTunaYodaTuna Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    The interview was crap. It was full of corporate speak. He acknowledged some of the failures of the UMDs but then he turned around and blamed it on the movie companies, not Sony. He also said Resistance was the best game ever.

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  • DtotheGDtotheG Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    So should I bother sending Sony my pic of the 2 PS3s in exchange for $2400?

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  • Smacky The FrogSmacky The Frog Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    DtotheG wrote: »
    So should I bother sending Sony my pic of the 2 PS3s in exchange for $2400?

    ...

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  • LBD_NytetraynLBD_Nytetrayn TorontoRegistered User regular
    edited February 2007
    DtotheG wrote: »
    So should I bother sending Sony my pic of the 2 PS3s in exchange for $2400?

    Yes. Yes you should.

    You should also make threats. Lots of 'em, and violent, too.

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