The whole "need to lose first" thing actually makes a ton of sense to me.
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I don't get any ladder anxiety because I'm in bronze league and frankly I can't get any worse.
The biggest nervousness I get is right before starting my first game of the day, though. I wonder if people get nervous about this: the fact that once you start your first match, you're going to stop hours later rather than minutes.
Rambling thoughts ahead:
Queuing as random is very rewarding at this level because it lets me learn more about the playstyles of each race.
I still haven't settled down as to what race I want to stick with. Newbie guides haven't helped me pick a race, so I guess playing each of them will have to do. So far I feel more comfortable as Terran, but Protoss are great fun if only because of how annoying you can be and Zerg is interesting in how weird it plays.
If anyone can give a better rundown about each race than what little summary the Blizzard community guides give?
I don't get ladder anxiety but I sure get bored faster when I lose. Even if I win I have a hard time being passionate about playing sc2. I'll watch hours of matches but trying to get me to play more than one game every week or so is like pulling teeth. I want to want to play this game a lot but I don't have the drive.
Well you were streaming LoL before right? It just works the same for me, put it in Windowed (Fullscreen) mode then run Xsplit as per usual. What kind of computer do you have? Streaming is demanding for your processor, memory, and video card. You can probably figure out a way to get it to work but if your computer is old you might be talking about low settings in SC2, low resolution/quality streaming.
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Well you were streaming LoL before right? It just works the same for me, put it in Windowed (Fullscreen) mode then run Xsplit as per usual. What kind of computer do you have? Streaming is demanding for your processor, memory, and video card. You can probably figure out a way to get it to work but if your computer is old you might be talking about low settings in SC2, low resolution/quality streaming.
Yeah I couldn't get either program to work, xsplit or livebroadcaster or whatever. I have a Phenom II X4 940 OCed to 3.8 so that should be good enough.
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I don't get any ladder anxiety because I'm in bronze league and frankly I can't get any worse.
The biggest nervousness I get is right before starting my first game of the day, though. I wonder if people get nervous about this: the fact that once you start your first match, you're going to stop hours later rather than minutes.
Rambling thoughts ahead:
Queuing as random is very rewarding at this level because it lets me learn more about the playstyles of each race.
I still haven't settled down as to what race I want to stick with. Newbie guides haven't helped me pick a race, so I guess playing each of them will have to do. So far I feel more comfortable as Terran, but Protoss are great fun if only because of how annoying you can be and Zerg is interesting in how weird it plays.
If anyone can give a better rundown about each race than what little summary the Blizzard community guides give?
(also Zerg macro is hard)
the difference between the races is not something that you're going to encounter much of until the higher levels
at lower levels where you are, the player that wins will be the one who makes the most mans and kills the most enemy mans, and you do that by always making workers and always making overlords/supply depots/pylons, then by having enough production
that said
Zerg is a very reactive race. Their ability to mass up larvae and instantly tech switch to a huge new army of units is both a strength and a weakness. It is a strength because it allows them to be flexible, but a weakness because if you happen to make a huge batch of drones right before an attack, you can find yourself lacking an army. Zerg is definitely the most demanding of your ability to correctly read what an opponent is doing based on limited info.
Terran is a very multitasking-favoured race. Their strength lies in small squads of units, rather than huge armies of death (though they do that very well). Dropping in multiple places at once, doing some damage, then picking up and flying away is a signature aspect of playing Terran, and as a race, their units benefit the most from careful micromanagement. A well-micro'd Terran army will be 2-3x as effective as an un-micro'd one.
Protoss is different again, and my personal favourite. Their style is very defensive. Your multitasking is set against your opponents as they attempt to harass you, and generally your aim is to build up a force capable of controlling the map while fending off various harass attempts.
Note that this is not to say that Protoss can't harass. Or that Zerg can't build up an army of death, or that Terran can't play defensively. But that is what is pretty much the current playstyle of all the races as you will see most players play it.
I'm pretty sure I'm going, and I'm thinking of getting a hotel room. If anyone else is going we can room share? I only bite when I lose ladder (read: a lot).
I'm pretty sure I'm going, and I'm thinking of getting a hotel room. If anyone else is going we can room share? I only bite when I lose ladder (read: a lot).
Start Date: 2011-08-26
End Date: 2011-08-28
I am actually trying to go to this too. But I might be going with a cavalcade of friends. And I am trying to get them to pay for the hotel room since Raleigh will coincide with my birthday. It is not working successfully.
I'm pretty sure I'm going, and I'm thinking of getting a hotel room. If anyone else is going we can room share? I only bite when I lose ladder (read: a lot).
Start Date: 2011-08-26
End Date: 2011-08-28
I am actually trying to go to this too. But I might be going with a cavalcade of friends. And I am trying to get them to pay for the hotel room since Raleigh will coincide with my birthday. It is not working successfully.
I've shared a room with 10 other people before at anime cons. ^_^
This is the hotel adjacent to the convention center:
Raleigh Marriott City Center
500 Fayetteville Street
Raleigh, NC 27601
Rate: $135 single/double/triple/quad
Reservation deadline: August 2, 2011
Reservation phone number: 888-236-2427 (mention code "MLG" to receive discount)
Distance to venue: adjacent to Convention Center
then the hotel across the street is $125 / day
anyway, boom
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Is there a way to deal with early roach pressure in ZvZ other than "build more roaches than he does/micro better"?
If you went slings, you can use them for map control. He won't move out early with roaches since your lings can either run by or just snipe his few roaches en route. You can then transition to roaches and your lings will still give you that advantage to snipe reinforcements if necessary.
late early game / early mid game, if he's on one base still, you'll need a bigger army by then
My TLOpen game. I felt like I made a lot of mistakes. What really lost me that game though was not noticing my robo was dead, so I didn't get colossi. When I pushed into his base that was really stupid of me, I didn't realize i was so far behind but I was thinking that I killed his army so handily that I could do it again. My forcefields were bad, positioning was bad and he took advantage of that with close reinforcements.
My TLOpen game. I felt like I made a lot of mistakes. What really lost me that game though was not noticing my robo was dead, so I didn't get colossi. When I pushed into his base that was really stupid of me, I didn't realize i was so far behind but I was thinking that I killed his army so handily that I could do it again. My forcefields were bad, positioning was bad and he took advantage of that with close reinforcements.
Also I need to build some probes, they are good.
Getting hit by drop pressure and having stuff like that happen (getting my Robo sniped) made me start to really, really value building placement, especially in PvT. I notice yours is kind of scattered throughout your main; personally, I like to have a big chunk of buildings stacked together on the ramp side of my Nexus, that way I can react faster to drops. Although I sometimes screw up building placement still.
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My TLOpen game. I felt like I made a lot of mistakes. What really lost me that game though was not noticing my robo was dead, so I didn't get colossi. When I pushed into his base that was really stupid of me, I didn't realize i was so far behind but I was thinking that I killed his army so handily that I could do it again. My forcefields were bad, positioning was bad and he took advantage of that with close reinforcements.
Also I need to build some probes, they are good.
Getting hit by drop pressure and having stuff like that happen (getting my Robo sniped) made me start to really, really value building placement, especially in PvT. I notice yours is kind of scattered throughout your main; personally, I like to have a big chunk of buildings stacked together on the ramp side of my Nexus, that way I can react faster to drops. Although I sometimes screw up building placement still.
I make buildings too fast I think, I mean it is good but I don't really put much thought into their placement. I just drop them pretty fast.
Anyone have any good replays of ZvP? I feel so reactive and helpless against them. Last couple games I got slaughtered by air (phoenix and voidray) before I had enough to stop it. Second game I held them off with queens/spores, but he was able to expand and crash in with Colossi (those cheap bastards).
I'd settle for advice too, but finding good replays has been tough. Every time I find a good pro ZvP replay, the zerg loses Is it fate?
Anyone have any good replays of ZvP? I feel so reactive and helpless against them. Last couple games I got slaughtered by air (phoenix and voidray) before I had enough to stop it. Second game I held them off with queens/spores, but he was able to expand and crash in with Colossi (those cheap bastards).
I'd settle for advice too, but finding good replays has been tough. Every time I find a good pro ZvP replay, the zerg loses Is it fate?
Look for any ZvP played by Losira. He played quite a few at MLG and is widely considered the best in the world at the matchup.
Honestly though I think the biggest problem is my laughably overrated profile. I used to be a pretty good diamond Terran player, but I left SC2 for like 5 months. Now I play one match, get crushed, and they put me back in diamond... and this time I'm zerg. Not a recipe for success. I suppose I just have to endure constant beatings until my morale improves (aka, I drop to Plat/Gold).
Honestly though I think the biggest problem is my laughably overrated profile. I used to be a pretty good diamond Terran player, but I left SC2 for like 5 months. Now I play one match, get crushed, and they put me back in diamond... and this time I'm zerg. Not a recipe for success. I suppose I just have to endure constant beatings until my morale improves (aka, I drop to Plat/Gold).
Thanks for the tip though, I'll look for Losira.
Also, if you want to see a different style of ZvP Morrow is going to play Minigun in the EG masters cup with Idra doing commentary. It could be enlightening.
Also, if you want to see a different style of ZvP Morrow is going to play Minigun in the EG masters cup with Idra doing commentary. It could be enlightening.
I do love that morrow plays with a unique style, and he's been pretty successful with it in the matchup. Idra also gives away a lot of juicy tidbits of knowledge when he commentates so I try to tune in when he's breaking things down.
honestly the most insightful protoss commentary we could get without language barriers (it would be boners if mc's english was just a little bit better) is one of the eurostars
Has anyone else recently had to have a painful readjustment after time off? Just wondering what number of losses I'm looking at before I am demoted. It's seemed pretty reluctant to change leagues in the past.
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edited July 2011
People suck.
I made a failed cannon rush, which is kind of all in. When it failed I cannoned myself in, rushed for void rays and won. This was my fourth protoss game.
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The biggest nervousness I get is right before starting my first game of the day, though. I wonder if people get nervous about this: the fact that once you start your first match, you're going to stop hours later rather than minutes.
Rambling thoughts ahead:
Queuing as random is very rewarding at this level because it lets me learn more about the playstyles of each race.
I still haven't settled down as to what race I want to stick with. Newbie guides haven't helped me pick a race, so I guess playing each of them will have to do. So far I feel more comfortable as Terran, but Protoss are great fun if only because of how annoying you can be and Zerg is interesting in how weird it plays.
If anyone can give a better rundown about each race than what little summary the Blizzard community guides give?
(also Zerg macro is hard)
Aces Wild is a pretty stellar game.
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the way i deal with it is to man the fuck up and hit that button
Well you were streaming LoL before right? It just works the same for me, put it in Windowed (Fullscreen) mode then run Xsplit as per usual. What kind of computer do you have? Streaming is demanding for your processor, memory, and video card. You can probably figure out a way to get it to work but if your computer is old you might be talking about low settings in SC2, low resolution/quality streaming.
Yeah I couldn't get either program to work, xsplit or livebroadcaster or whatever. I have a Phenom II X4 940 OCed to 3.8 so that should be good enough.
the difference between the races is not something that you're going to encounter much of until the higher levels
at lower levels where you are, the player that wins will be the one who makes the most mans and kills the most enemy mans, and you do that by always making workers and always making overlords/supply depots/pylons, then by having enough production
that said
Zerg is a very reactive race. Their ability to mass up larvae and instantly tech switch to a huge new army of units is both a strength and a weakness. It is a strength because it allows them to be flexible, but a weakness because if you happen to make a huge batch of drones right before an attack, you can find yourself lacking an army. Zerg is definitely the most demanding of your ability to correctly read what an opponent is doing based on limited info.
Terran is a very multitasking-favoured race. Their strength lies in small squads of units, rather than huge armies of death (though they do that very well). Dropping in multiple places at once, doing some damage, then picking up and flying away is a signature aspect of playing Terran, and as a race, their units benefit the most from careful micromanagement. A well-micro'd Terran army will be 2-3x as effective as an un-micro'd one.
Protoss is different again, and my personal favourite. Their style is very defensive. Your multitasking is set against your opponents as they attempt to harass you, and generally your aim is to build up a force capable of controlling the map while fending off various harass attempts.
Note that this is not to say that Protoss can't harass. Or that Zerg can't build up an army of death, or that Terran can't play defensively. But that is what is pretty much the current playstyle of all the races as you will see most players play it.
I'm pretty sure I'm going, and I'm thinking of getting a hotel room. If anyone else is going we can room share? I only bite when I lose ladder (read: a lot).
Start Date: 2011-08-26
End Date: 2011-08-28
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You can also use Xsplit on Justin.TV by the way, it works basically the same.
Cool, I will try to tune in if it's not at the same time as my stream
I am actually trying to go to this too. But I might be going with a cavalcade of friends. And I am trying to get them to pay for the hotel room since Raleigh will coincide with my birthday. It is not working successfully.
Two things of note:
SC2:CE is $50 from Best Buy
I spent 2 full minutes laughing at this
I've shared a room with 10 other people before at anime cons. ^_^
This is the hotel adjacent to the convention center:
Raleigh Marriott City Center
500 Fayetteville Street
Raleigh, NC 27601
Rate: $135 single/double/triple/quad
Reservation deadline: August 2, 2011
Reservation phone number: 888-236-2427 (mention code "MLG" to receive discount)
Distance to venue: adjacent to Convention Center
then the hotel across the street is $125 / day
anyway, boom
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I got the same when I faced a vvv zerg hahaha
If you went slings, you can use them for map control. He won't move out early with roaches since your lings can either run by or just snipe his few roaches en route. You can then transition to roaches and your lings will still give you that advantage to snipe reinforcements if necessary.
late early game / early mid game, if he's on one base still, you'll need a bigger army by then
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Edit: Also, worth signing up as a player?
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My TLOpen game. I felt like I made a lot of mistakes. What really lost me that game though was not noticing my robo was dead, so I didn't get colossi. When I pushed into his base that was really stupid of me, I didn't realize i was so far behind but I was thinking that I killed his army so handily that I could do it again. My forcefields were bad, positioning was bad and he took advantage of that with close reinforcements.
Also I need to build some probes, they are good.
Getting hit by drop pressure and having stuff like that happen (getting my Robo sniped) made me start to really, really value building placement, especially in PvT. I notice yours is kind of scattered throughout your main; personally, I like to have a big chunk of buildings stacked together on the ramp side of my Nexus, that way I can react faster to drops. Although I sometimes screw up building placement still.
Awesome game. Awesome BM.
I make buildings too fast I think, I mean it is good but I don't really put much thought into their placement. I just drop them pretty fast.
Can't play any more today, someone stream....NOW
It annoys me when players go for stupid rushes and then leave without a GG when the rush fails.
The EG masters cup semis are on though if you want to watch something.
I'd settle for advice too, but finding good replays has been tough. Every time I find a good pro ZvP replay, the zerg loses
Look for any ZvP played by Losira. He played quite a few at MLG and is widely considered the best in the world at the matchup.
u can watch his vods. All should be available on his channel .. and yeah, yay collosus!
And, hydras are pretty worthless for how much they cost.
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Thanks for the tip though, I'll look for Losira.
Also, if you want to see a different style of ZvP Morrow is going to play Minigun in the EG masters cup with Idra doing commentary. It could be enlightening.
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/OneMoreGame
Watching now.
this should be very enlightening.
I'm expecting it to be rather onesided in morrows favor though
I made a failed cannon rush, which is kind of all in. When it failed I cannoned myself in, rushed for void rays and won. This was my fourth protoss game.