I still hope that boosting vote enough would make it go before other actions rather than afterward. Not having to deal with this trickling nonsense would be great. Just getting more kills isn't that helpful.
So apparently my points got blocked last night. Did anyone else get a similar message? If the mafia was responsible, maybe my declared point allocations were not to their liking?
...Dammit kime, I have so many more questions. Balefuego, where are you getting that host clarification from?
I may not have agreed with Ego's reasoning, but at least it had good rational backing it up.
On the other hand, when we know the vote trickles and we need to be careful with it throwing out votes for non-reasons like "misunderstanding a vague mechanic" is not only counter-productive, it could be downright harmful.
I think we need to lower entropy, as by my reading it makes it easier for us to add and subtract points. As the majority, we still control those point values. While it would technically make everyone more powerful, it makes the village able to swing attributes easier.
of course I could be reading that description totally incorrectly.
Didn't we already decide that we want to raise entropy, thus increasing the universes randomness and lessening it's resistance, so we can change it more easily?
I may not have agreed with Ego's reasoning, but at least it had good rational backing it up.
On the other hand, when we know the vote trickles and we need to be careful with it throwing out votes for non-reasons like "misunderstanding a vague mechanic" is not only counter-productive, it could be downright harmful.
I think we need to lower entropy, as by my reading it makes it easier for us to add and subtract points. As the majority, we still control those point values. While it would technically make everyone more powerful, it makes the village able to swing attributes easier.
of course I could be reading that description totally incorrectly.
Didn't we already decide that we want to raise entropy, thus increasing the universes randomness and lessening it's resistance, so we can change it more easily?
Well I was just interpreting the description of the power listed today
Adjusts the Resistance of the universe. Entropy is currently at Level -2.
Which I took to mean that a negative score would actually lessen resistance, but I could be wrong.
Ugh. Info was one of the ones I felt safe allocation points to. Vote will become better and better for us later on, but it is still probably more useful for the mafia than us.
I guess
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My friend is working on a roguelike game you can play if you want to. (It has free demo)
I'd guess that if we decrease entropy we will be making the rules less malleable. So, for example, a -2 is likely to make the universe harder to change. I think it is actually that more entropy = less resistance.
I'd guess that if we decrease entropy we will be making the rules less malleable. So, for example, a -2 is likely to make the universe harder to change. I think it is actually that more entropy = less resistance.
I think. Maybe.
Don't quote me.
This feels more correct to me than the alternative.
This game is nutzoid. "You have unlocked a category." "Category locked!" You guys...
Does the fact that one of the murder methods was Black mean somebody leveled up into a Serial Killer? Does that imply more people might continue to level up into Serial Killer?
I agree that Vote might be about as powerful as we need it. If it gets powered into 3-kill vote the Mafia will manipulate the shit out of it and we'll be basically giving them another kill. I'm cool with leveling up Host, though it would be nice to know which Host it is leveling.
that would be balls out crazy. having multiple serial killers with multiple kills each trying to kill every person doesn't even make sense.
If there is a serial killer, there is just one, or like, a pair with a kill between them.
This game is nutzoid. "You have unlocked a category." "Category locked!" You guys...
Does the fact that one of the murder methods was Black mean somebody leveled up into a Serial Killer? Does that imply more people might continue to level up into Serial Killer?
I agree that Vote might be about as powerful as we need it. If it gets powered into 3-kill vote the Mafia will manipulate the shit out of it and we'll be basically giving them another kill. I'm cool with leveling up Host, though it would be nice to know which Host it is leveling.
that would be balls out crazy.
As if we would expect anything less from this phalla.
I'm worried this will be seen as a grudge vote, but because I might miss the vote close tomorrow I want to put it in.
Jackisreal I am getting that same vibe from you. It feels like some of the things you have said have just been thrown in to convince us you are a villager and yet I cannot shake the feeling. I guess mostly...
Wow, so little activity today. I really hope there's a network working hard out there, as we are probably screwed otherwise. I think I'll place my vote on someone who was on the stever wagon... let's go with CaptainPlanet82 for flip-flopping onto it.
Not sure what to do with the categories today. I guess boost everything, except possibly entropy. Who knows what is up with entropy.
Slim chance, but... Could we get a more detailed description of what the categories do? Is there any other mechanical information we are entitled to?
WEREN'T YOU THE ONE WHO PUT THE FREAKING -2 POINTS INTO ENTROPY IN THE FIRST PLACE? AND NOW IT WAS APPARENTLY WITHOUT MUCH THOUGHT INTO WHAT THAT ACTUALLY WOULD DO?!?!?!!!
Obviously I had no idea. I was guessing that high entropy would just cause random shit to happen, which is clearly not what we want. Of course, new empirical evidence now suggests that reducing entropy was a bad move. :?
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38thDoelets never be stupid againwait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered Userregular
Please post at least twice a day, and vote for one player in Bold Red ... Inactives will be replaced or killed.
It should be mentioned that the force which pursues those not contributing has been boosted. Please make sure you contribute at least twice to the discussion and once to the vote to ensure survival.
THOUGH HOW YOU COULD POSSIBLY SPIN A 2ND VOTE KILL THAT COULD BE EASILY MANIPULATED BY A MASONED GROUP, LIKE SAY THE FREAKING MAFIA, IS MORE BENEFICIAL FOR THE VILLAGE...
WEREN'T YOU THE ONE WHO PUT THE FREAKING -2 POINTS INTO ENTROPY IN THE FIRST PLACE? AND NOW IT WAS APPARENTLY WITHOUT MUCH THOUGHT INTO WHAT THAT ACTUALLY WOULD DO?!?!?!!!
BECAUSE OF THIS INCREDIBLY SILLY VOTE CLOSE TIME THAT MAKES IT INCONVENIENT TO CHECK THE STATUS, EVEN WITHOUT ACCOUNTING FOR THE FACT THAT IT IS IN THE MIDDLE OF WHEN THE SERVERS START TO BE TOO BUSY, I WILL HAVE TO PLACE A PLACEHOLDER VOTE.
AND EVEN MORE ANNOYINGLY, BECAUSE THE VILLAGE IS RUNNING AROUND LIKE A BUNCH OF AVIANS WITHOUT A HEAD, THERE IS NOT EVEN MUCH OF A POINT TO MAKE A VOTECOUNT FOR ALL THE SINGLE VOTES FLYING AROUND. LIKE AN AVIAN. THAT WAS A JOKE. HAHA.
IN THE SPIRIT OF BEHAVING LIKE A CRANIALLY IMPAIRED FOWL, I SHALL PLACE A VOTE ON JASON TODD. FOR NOW.
DURING DAY ONE, WHILE DISCUSSING GRUDGE TARGETS, VWINDS HAD MENTIONED PREVIOUS BAD BLOOD BETWEEN HIM AND THE AFOREMENTIONED FOURMER WITH TWO FIRST NAMES. FURTHERMORE, BEFORE BECOMING LIFE-IMPAIRED EGOS HAD ALSO MENTIONED THIS HEMOGLOBIN OF HOSTILE INTENT.
ALSO, THERE WAS MENTION THAT HE WAS THE ONE WHO WANTED PEOPLE TO PUBLICLY ANNOUNCE THE EXACT NUMBER OF THE POINTS THAT WERE SPENT, RATHER THAN JUST THE CATEGORIES. THIS TACTIC MAY OR MAY NOT BEAR RESEMBLANCE TO A CERTAIN OTHER GAMBIT THAT WAS USED BY THE MAFIA IN PHA/LLA, WHERE UNDER THE AUSPICES OF HELPING TRACK DOWN SUSPICIOUS PEOPLE, THE MAFIA CONVINCED SOME VILLAGERS TO PUBLIC ALLY POST LOGS OF THEIR LOCATIONS, INCLUDING OTHER PEOPLE IN THEIR NODES, WHICH ALLOWED THE MAFIA TO HUNT DOWN AND TAG, AND EVENTUALLY, KILL TARGETS OF HIGH OPPORTUNITY. FOR WHICH AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE FOR LETTING THEM TAG YOU ARDOR.
ANYWAY, WHILE IT MAY BE A SILLY POINT NOW THAT POINT TOTALS WERE MENTIONED IN THE NARRATION...FOR NOW...AT THE TIME, ESPECIALLY DAY ONE, THIS WOULD ALLOW THE MAFIA TO MORE INTELLIGENTLY MOLD THEIR POINT ALLOCATIONS ON THE UNPOPULAR CATEGORIES, IF THEY HAVE ANY WAY OF INFLUENCING POINT TOTALS WHICH IS LIKELY BECAUSE I'D EXPECT MORE THAN 10 POINTS IN INFORMATION AFTER DAY ONE SINCE IT WOULD BE SILLY FOR ANY VILLAGER TO SUBTRACT POINTS FROM IT.
Also why so angry spoit, bold print does not suit you.
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He's a shy overambitious dog-catcher on the wrong side of the law. She's an orphaned psychic mercenary with the power to bend men's minds. They fight crime!
THERE CERTAINLY WOULDN'T BE A SILLY POWER LIKE A CERTAIN OVERLY PEDANTIC MAFIA HAD IN THE GAGA MINI. BECAUSE SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD NOT BE THE LEAST BIT ANNOYING. THAT WAS SARCASM. HAHA.
AND IF THERE WERE SOMEONE WITH THIS HYPOTHETICAL POWER THEY WOULD HYPOTHETICALY BE OLD ENOUGH TO KNOW ABOUT FIARYN BUT ALSO HAVE BEEN ACTIVE RECENTLY ENOUGH TO KNOW THE GLORY OF MURDERBOT
Not much to go on today, I hope we get some seer action soon.
I'll go with jackisreal, he still seems suspicious to me.
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38thDoelets never be stupid againwait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered Userregular
edited July 2011
I am now able to help someone with their power.
I have been trying to remember a story I once heard. I forgot the key detail. If you can help me out with this, I will help you better control your power. I hope that you'll think about using this increase in power to convince the others to give up their power.
"In medieval times a wealthy king with a single heir died suddenly. The prince had been sent on a quest to distant lands and had not been seen for many years. Several men of the appropriate age and a similar appearance showed up claiming to be the prince, hoping to gain the kingβs fortune and kingdom. The kingdom could not figure out who was the correct heir.
Finally, the kingβs old advisor proposed a test to the hopefuls. Everyone who agreed to the test was dismissed as an impostor. The man who refused the test was found to be the prince. Why would the prince not want to take the test?
The first person to PM me with the correct answer will be rewarded.
ANYWAY, WHILE IT MAY BE A SILLY POINT NOW THAT POINT TOTALS WERE MENTIONED IN THE NARRATION...FOR NOW...AT THE TIME, ESPECIALLY DAY ONE, THIS WOULD ALLOW THE MAFIA TO MORE INTELLIGENTLY MOLD THEIR POINT ALLOCATIONS ON THE UNPOPULAR CATEGORIES, IF THEY HAVE ANY WAY OF INFLUENCING POINT TOTALS WHICH IS LIKELY BECAUSE I'D EXPECT MORE THAN 10 POINTS IN INFORMATION AFTER DAY ONE SINCE IT WOULD BE SILLY FOR ANY VILLAGER TO SUBTRACT POINTS FROM IT.
Just as a note spoit, the numbers in the narration is the Level of each category, not raw points. Like in the Training category mentioned, 1 point was level 1, 3 additional points (4 total) was level 2, and 5 additional (9 total) was level 3. It takes more points to hit the higher levels. Which means we pumped a ton of raw points into information over the first 2 days.
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So apparently my points got blocked last night. Did anyone else get a similar message? If the mafia was responsible, maybe my declared point allocations were not to their liking?
...Dammit kime, I have so many more questions. Balefuego, where are you getting that host clarification from?
that reads to me to mean that the level affects both of them. When the rank is strong, both are strong.
Re-reading this, I actually am getting a mafioso vibe from Wandering Hero.
I may not have agreed with Ego's reasoning, but at least it had good rational backing it up.
On the other hand, when we know the vote trickles and we need to be careful with it throwing out votes for non-reasons like "misunderstanding a vague mechanic" is not only counter-productive, it could be downright harmful.
Also,
Didn't we already decide that we want to raise entropy, thus increasing the universes randomness and lessening it's resistance, so we can change it more easily?
Well I was just interpreting the description of the power listed today
Which I took to mean that a negative score would actually lessen resistance, but I could be wrong.
Confusion will be my epitaph
that is what I was thinking.
I guess
Langly
I think. Maybe.
Don't quote me.
This feels more correct to me than the alternative.
well then let me be the first to volunteer you to reap the benefits of your work
Tecurian
that would be balls out crazy. having multiple serial killers with multiple kills each trying to kill every person doesn't even make sense.
If there is a serial killer, there is just one, or like, a pair with a kill between them.
I love democracy and killing.
As if we would expect anything less from this phalla.
Jackisreal I am getting that same vibe from you. It feels like some of the things you have said have just been thrown in to convince us you are a villager and yet I cannot shake the feeling. I guess mostly...
I am not convinced.
Not sure what to do with the categories today. I guess boost everything, except possibly entropy. Who knows what is up with entropy.
Slim chance, but... Could we get a more detailed description of what the categories do? Is there any other mechanical information we are entitled to?
Is the positive direction generally more beneficial for the village, regardless of category?
Clarification denied.
It should be mentioned that the force which pursues those not contributing has been boosted. Please make sure you contribute at least twice to the discussion and once to the vote to ensure survival.
ironic.
AND EVEN MORE ANNOYINGLY, BECAUSE THE VILLAGE IS RUNNING AROUND LIKE A BUNCH OF AVIANS WITHOUT A HEAD, THERE IS NOT EVEN MUCH OF A POINT TO MAKE A VOTECOUNT FOR ALL THE SINGLE VOTES FLYING AROUND. LIKE AN AVIAN. THAT WAS A JOKE. HAHA.
IN THE SPIRIT OF BEHAVING LIKE A CRANIALLY IMPAIRED FOWL, I SHALL PLACE A VOTE ON JASON TODD. FOR NOW.
DURING DAY ONE, WHILE DISCUSSING GRUDGE TARGETS, VWINDS HAD MENTIONED PREVIOUS BAD BLOOD BETWEEN HIM AND THE AFOREMENTIONED FOURMER WITH TWO FIRST NAMES. FURTHERMORE, BEFORE BECOMING LIFE-IMPAIRED EGOS HAD ALSO MENTIONED THIS HEMOGLOBIN OF HOSTILE INTENT.
ALSO, THERE WAS MENTION THAT HE WAS THE ONE WHO WANTED PEOPLE TO PUBLICLY ANNOUNCE THE EXACT NUMBER OF THE POINTS THAT WERE SPENT, RATHER THAN JUST THE CATEGORIES. THIS TACTIC MAY OR MAY NOT BEAR RESEMBLANCE TO A CERTAIN OTHER GAMBIT THAT WAS USED BY THE MAFIA IN PHA/LLA, WHERE UNDER THE AUSPICES OF HELPING TRACK DOWN SUSPICIOUS PEOPLE, THE MAFIA CONVINCED SOME VILLAGERS TO PUBLIC ALLY POST LOGS OF THEIR LOCATIONS, INCLUDING OTHER PEOPLE IN THEIR NODES, WHICH ALLOWED THE MAFIA TO HUNT DOWN AND TAG, AND EVENTUALLY, KILL TARGETS OF HIGH OPPORTUNITY. FOR WHICH AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE FOR LETTING THEM TAG YOU ARDOR.
ANYWAY, WHILE IT MAY BE A SILLY POINT NOW THAT POINT TOTALS WERE MENTIONED IN THE NARRATION...FOR NOW...AT THE TIME, ESPECIALLY DAY ONE, THIS WOULD ALLOW THE MAFIA TO MORE INTELLIGENTLY MOLD THEIR POINT ALLOCATIONS ON THE UNPOPULAR CATEGORIES, IF THEY HAVE ANY WAY OF INFLUENCING POINT TOTALS WHICH IS LIKELY BECAUSE I'D EXPECT MORE THAN 10 POINTS IN INFORMATION AFTER DAY ONE SINCE IT WOULD BE SILLY FOR ANY VILLAGER TO SUBTRACT POINTS FROM IT.
Also why so angry spoit, bold print does not suit you.
AND IF THERE WERE SOMEONE WITH THIS HYPOTHETICAL POWER THEY WOULD HYPOTHETICALY BE OLD ENOUGH TO KNOW ABOUT FIARYN BUT ALSO HAVE BEEN ACTIVE RECENTLY ENOUGH TO KNOW THE GLORY OF MURDERBOT
LETS GO WITH CAPS LOCK MAN
I'll go with jackisreal, he still seems suspicious to me.
I am now able to help someone with their power.
I have been trying to remember a story I once heard. I forgot the key detail. If you can help me out with this, I will help you better control your power. I hope that you'll think about using this increase in power to convince the others to give up their power.
"In medieval times a wealthy king with a single heir died suddenly. The prince had been sent on a quest to distant lands and had not been seen for many years. Several men of the appropriate age and a similar appearance showed up claiming to be the prince, hoping to gain the kingβs fortune and kingdom. The kingdom could not figure out who was the correct heir.
Finally, the kingβs old advisor proposed a test to the hopefuls. Everyone who agreed to the test was dismissed as an impostor. The man who refused the test was found to be the prince. Why would the prince not want to take the test?
The first person to PM me with the correct answer will be rewarded.
Just as a note spoit, the numbers in the narration is the Level of each category, not raw points. Like in the Training category mentioned, 1 point was level 1, 3 additional points (4 total) was level 2, and 5 additional (9 total) was level 3. It takes more points to hit the higher levels. Which means we pumped a ton of raw points into information over the first 2 days.