I'm not sure why I'm being painted as a "flailing mafia?" The mafia would have no reason to flail right now, seeing as how they're in a great spot. Cythraul for bandwagoning on me and on stever yesterday, at least until I have time to check vote counts.
Uh, you've changed opinion a lot and changed vote now too. I'm gonna call it flailing.
And stever set off my mafia radar, I was right about it last game and wrong about it this game. Oops, sorry stever! Stop being suspicious! :P
I'll have to agree with this
Here and here he seemed a little desperate to get the vote off spoit, jumping on anyone with more than a vote. Newbie mafia wanting to save a fellow mafia maybe? Also, (assuming he is new) an inactivity-based vote on zandy? Almost seems like he did that on advice of more experienced players
Whelp,with all these mini wagons floatn around, I'm no sure who's leading things. Gonna go with Tecurian for the moment. Dolphins are too cute to murder, and i'm not piling on a wagon started by duna/Zan one word votes.
immortal squish. I was already suspicious of you since you have voted for multiple known dead villagers. But to attack someone after making a helpful statement seems odd.
Also, dolphins? Jackisreal? He's not even near the lead. Is this an omission in defense to one of your collaborators?
This whole post seems odd to me. I've been so busy packing for a wedding out of town this weekend. I didn't miss any reveals, right?
It's pretty much too late to move the vote off SLyM at this point, I just want to make sure everyone keeps in mind that this bandwagon started with this post and this post.
Not exactly compelling evidence, but for now deciding on a solid number 2 and getting away from this logjam with a ton of people with 2 or 3 votes should be the priority.
In answer to Spoit's ACCUSATION: When I proposed keeping track of our point allocations, I was hoping that with a sufficient information score that we'd be able to see the levels of each category with each narration. Now that I know that we see the categories ranked on a (-10 to 10?) scale instead of the raw points in each, that plan isn't very worthwhile.
As I understand it, we're putting SLyM and tmoiy in first and second place? How many votes does each currently have?
I'm extremely suspicious of Spoit. If he wanted to accuse me based on my push for public allocation tracking, that would be one thing. I understand how that could seem suspicious.
But he also claimed that both Egos and Vagrant_Winds had expressed suspicions about me before their deaths. However, there is no record in the thread that either player did so. Spoit either has a terrible memory or is a liar.
Looks like I'll die today, so I'll reveal and share what little I know.
I am A Skilled Idealist. I am a normal villager, except that each day I get six points to allocate instead of five.
On day 1, I did information +2,entropy -2,defense +2.
On day 2, I did information +1,vote +2,host +1,defense +2. However, I later received a message suggesting that I was blocked somehow, and my changes had no effect.
Tonight, I will be trying to raise entropy,defense, and support.
So I am worried not about winning the vote, but about being vigged today from an itchy vig's trigger finger. After the last two games, I think that suspicion is pretty fair. So I'm going to go ahead and say that I am the same role as steever was (people-person), and that I am a village aligned special. By steever having the same description, I assume there are more of us. If so, I ask for a guard, please. I have a kill out that I will call after vote close, to prove myself.
If I can't prove it, vote me or vig me tomorrow, but unless the target gets guarded it will show up, I promise.
Also, please do the double guard/roleblock guard as roleblocks seem to be common in this game
is Jason Todd even the next highest up? I feel like this may be creating even more confusion. I dont think Langly is mafia as this ploy wouldnt make much sense but lets at least be smart about replacing him as 3rd on the list.
ANYWAY, WHILE IT MAY BE A SILLY POINT NOW THAT POINT TOTALS WERE MENTIONED IN THE NARRATION...FOR NOW...AT THE TIME, ESPECIALLY DAY ONE, THIS WOULD ALLOW THE MAFIA TO MORE INTELLIGENTLY MOLD THEIR POINT ALLOCATIONS ON THE UNPOPULAR CATEGORIES, IF THEY HAVE ANY WAY OF INFLUENCING POINT TOTALS WHICH IS LIKELY BECAUSE I'D EXPECT MORE THAN 10 POINTS IN INFORMATION AFTER DAY ONE SINCE IT WOULD BE SILLY FOR ANY VILLAGER TO SUBTRACT POINTS FROM IT.
Just as a note spoit, the numbers in the narration is the Level of each category, not raw points. Like in the Training category mentioned, 1 point was level 1, 3 additional points (4 total) was level 2, and 5 additional (9 total) was level 3. It takes more points to hit the higher levels. Which means we pumped a ton of raw points into information over the first 2 days.
I AM NOT SO SURE ABOUT THAT. THE TRAINING CATEGORY WHICH THE NARRATION TAUNTED US WITH SPECIFIED ADDITIONAL "THINGIES" AS "RANKS" NOT "LEVELS." AND AT THE RISK OF SOUNDING HYPOCRITICAL, THE -2 ENTROPY LINES UP WITH TMOIY'S CLAIMED POINT ALLOCATION
I'm extremely suspicious of Spoit. If he wanted to accuse me based on my push for public allocation tracking, that would be one thing. I understand how that could seem suspicious.
But he also claimed that both Egos and Vagrant_Winds had expressed suspicions about me before their deaths. However, there is no record in the thread that either player did so. Spoit either has a terrible memory or is a liar.
THERE IS THIS THING CALLED SOFT NETWORKING, OR DID YOU THINK THAT EGOS STUCK HIS NECK OUT FOR ME ENTIRELY ON A WHIM. VWINDS ALSO HAD TALKED ABOUT YOUR PAST HISTORY IN IRC ON SUNDAY. IN THE PUBLIC CHANNEL. I DON'T HAVE A LIST WHO ELSE WAS ACTIVE ON THE CHANNEL AT THAT TIME, BUT LANGLY HAD TALKED A BIT BEFORE THEN AND HAD NOT LOGGED OUT, SO HIS LOGS MAY HAVE RECORD OF THE CONVERSATION. AND, OF COURSE, EGOS, BUT THAT IS HARDLY A HELP
With the vote as powerful as it is now, isn't it possible that it's been moved up in the order? Like, before kills?
I guess, but we can't know till it happens.
WELL, I MEAN YOU COULD SEE IF THE HOSTS ARE WILLING TO GIVE A CLARIFICATION ON IT, BUT GIVEN THAT THEY APPEAR TO BE LIMITED IN THE NUMBER OF ACTUALLY USEFUL CLARIFICATIONS THEY GIVE A DAY, THAT MAY BE A WASTE OF A CLARIFICATION. AND EVEN THOUGH IT LEAVES US OPEN TO SHENANIGANS AND MAFIA MANIPULATION OF A SECOND KILL, MAINTAINING A THIRD ALSO LEAVES MORE OF A VOTING RECORD TO ANALYZE. AND REALLY, IN A GAME OF THIS SIZE, THEY USUALLY HAVE TWO KILLS A DAY ANYWAY
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I'll have to agree with this
Here and here he seemed a little desperate to get the vote off spoit, jumping on anyone with more than a vote. Newbie mafia wanting to save a fellow mafia maybe? Also, (assuming he is new) an inactivity-based vote on zandy? Almost seems like he did that on advice of more experienced players
Tmoiy
Yes. Give me a chance, yo. Why everybody gotta be all up in the Dolphin's grill all the time
immortal squish. I was already suspicious of you since you have voted for multiple known dead villagers. But to attack someone after making a helpful statement seems odd.
Also, dolphins? Jackisreal? He's not even near the lead. Is this an omission in defense to one of your collaborators?
This whole post seems odd to me. I've been so busy packing for a wedding out of town this weekend. I didn't miss any reveals, right?
Not exactly compelling evidence, but for now deciding on a solid number 2 and getting away from this logjam with a ton of people with 2 or 3 votes should be the priority.
SLyM
As I understand it, we're putting SLyM and tmoiy in first and second place? How many votes does each currently have?
At least we've moved away from that large group with 2 votes each.
But he also claimed that both Egos and Vagrant_Winds had expressed suspicions about me before their deaths. However, there is no record in the thread that either player did so. Spoit either has a terrible memory or is a liar.
I am A Skilled Idealist. I am a normal villager, except that each day I get six points to allocate instead of five.
On day 1, I did information +2, entropy -2, defense +2.
On day 2, I did information +1, vote +2, host +1, defense +2. However, I later received a message suggesting that I was blocked somehow, and my changes had no effect.
Tonight, I will be trying to raise entropy, defense, and support.
Good luck, village!
So I am worried not about winning the vote, but about being vigged today from an itchy vig's trigger finger. After the last two games, I think that suspicion is pretty fair. So I'm going to go ahead and say that I am the same role as steever was (people-person), and that I am a village aligned special. By steever having the same description, I assume there are more of us. If so, I ask for a guard, please. I have a kill out that I will call after vote close, to prove myself.
If I can't prove it, vote me or vig me tomorrow, but unless the target gets guarded it will show up, I promise.
Also, please do the double guard/roleblock guard as roleblocks seem to be common in this game
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Sorry, I'm not thinking clearly atm.
Our best move is to put someone else in 3rd place, Langly's post doesn't make much sense to me if he's mafia
But Langly reached 3 votes first, and so is technically still in 3rd place.
I AM NOT SO SURE ABOUT THAT. THE TRAINING CATEGORY WHICH THE NARRATION TAUNTED US WITH SPECIFIED ADDITIONAL "THINGIES" AS "RANKS" NOT "LEVELS." AND AT THE RISK OF SOUNDING HYPOCRITICAL, THE -2 ENTROPY LINES UP WITH TMOIY'S CLAIMED POINT ALLOCATION
I guess, but we can't know till it happens.
THERE IS THIS THING CALLED SOFT NETWORKING, OR DID YOU THINK THAT EGOS STUCK HIS NECK OUT FOR ME ENTIRELY ON A WHIM. VWINDS ALSO HAD TALKED ABOUT YOUR PAST HISTORY IN IRC ON SUNDAY. IN THE PUBLIC CHANNEL. I DON'T HAVE A LIST WHO ELSE WAS ACTIVE ON THE CHANNEL AT THAT TIME, BUT LANGLY HAD TALKED A BIT BEFORE THEN AND HAD NOT LOGGED OUT, SO HIS LOGS MAY HAVE RECORD OF THE CONVERSATION. AND, OF COURSE, EGOS, BUT THAT IS HARDLY A HELP
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WELL, I MEAN YOU COULD SEE IF THE HOSTS ARE WILLING TO GIVE A CLARIFICATION ON IT, BUT GIVEN THAT THEY APPEAR TO BE LIMITED IN THE NUMBER OF ACTUALLY USEFUL CLARIFICATIONS THEY GIVE A DAY, THAT MAY BE A WASTE OF A CLARIFICATION. AND EVEN THOUGH IT LEAVES US OPEN TO SHENANIGANS AND MAFIA MANIPULATION OF A SECOND KILL, MAINTAINING A THIRD ALSO LEAVES MORE OF A VOTING RECORD TO ANALYZE. AND REALLY, IN A GAME OF THIS SIZE, THEY USUALLY HAVE TWO KILLS A DAY ANYWAY