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Make a Let's Play? Felony. AMV? Felony. Post a Cutscene? Felony.
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http://www.climbthenet.com/senate-bill-s-978-makes-most-of-youtube-a-felony/1717
Why Nemo, clearly you are being a silly goose and exaggerating!
No, I'm not. If this passes it will become a felony to post a Let's Play, an AMV, or a cover of a song. This is so ridiculously fucked up it's insane.
But Nemo, surely this will die in Committee!
No, it won't. Just look at the powers backing it: http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-s978/show
This is clearly the fault of Dems/Repubs/Gre-
No, it's not. Both sides of the aisle support this since both sides want sweet, sweet cash cum from media cocks.
So what do we do about it?
Call your senators and your representatives. E-mail them. Snail mail them. I know that sounds insipid, but do it anyway. Enough voters screaming makes any politician cave like a fucking house of cards. We absolutley cannot let this pass.
Why Nemo, clearly you are being a silly goose and exaggerating!
No, I'm not. If this passes it will become a felony to post a Let's Play, an AMV, or a cover of a song. This is so ridiculously fucked up it's insane.
But Nemo, surely this will die in Committee!
No, it won't. Just look at the powers backing it: http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-s978/show
This is clearly the fault of Dems/Repubs/Gre-
No, it's not. Both sides of the aisle support this since both sides want sweet, sweet cash cum from media cocks.
So what do we do about it?
Call your senators and your representatives. E-mail them. Snail mail them. I know that sounds insipid, but do it anyway. Enough voters screaming makes any politician cave like a fucking house of cards. We absolutley cannot let this pass.
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To say the least, haha.
This thread title could probably go with less joking about prison, by the way.
Kind of important to note.
Don't forget the infringer loses 5 years of their life.
America is hard at work imprisoning the entire population. Fuck this country into the earth, I want out.
also fair use is not modified by this change
They will be going after people streaming tv shows and movies. They'll make an example out of a few people, I'm sure, but this seems to me to be something that is largely reactionary to the prevalence of streaming media.
5 years is the max you can get, there is no mandatory minimum
It's late at night and my brain can't process legal-language. Translate?
It's still ridiculous.
The reason things like fair use exist and the reason copyrights expire is that culture benefits from the reuse of these once-copyrighted products. Also, past culture contributes to contemporary artistic innovation.
Anyway, copyrights SHOULD expire, and they should expire a LOT quicker than they currently do. And while I understand that being able to fire up a Youtube video to listen to a song might cut into a label's profit margins from people that might have otherwise purchased a CD or an MP3 of that song, I'm not going to cry a river for their losses.
it was already 5 years max before...were you as upset then
I mean I get it, I just don't want people to get confused that they are upping the max sentence, they aren't
Your Honor, The People intend to show, with expert testimony, that "Kingdom Hearts - Sora and Kairi LOVE_Coldplay Yellow.flv" willfully infringes on the copyright of the song Yellow and the video game Kingdom Hearts.
so that would cover streaming, it seems
I didn't know before. So now I'm even more mad.
fair use dogggg
though I admit I am not up on current fair use rulings
That last sentence really bothers me when concerning the copyright and piracy argument.
The way you decide whether or not someone deserves your money is by withholding your money and boycotting their product. I'm not saying I've never downloaded or streamed anything, but to justify downloading/streaming because you don't feel like company x deserves to make any more money is kind of silly. It is not an unreasonable reaction for a business to be upset that they are losing out on money.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LanCLS_hIo4
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however I do not think it will do what OP claims it will do
I think it is aimed at the sites that stream NFL games and stuff
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So the main thing here is public performances of copyright work. They amend the definition as well:
So it really seems to be going after justin.tv kind of people.
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no, it doesn't
for reasons I have pointed out by reading the actual laws
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00002319----000-.html
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s112-978
Except that the way it will actually work will be as a tool to provide authorities with more power.
Traffic law works similarly in theory, and in reality it is used to harass brown people and extract revenue for the state instead of making roads safe.
No, it's not an unreasonable reaction. But their concern is less important than what would happen to our culture if, say, fair use went away. According to SIG that's not what's happening here, but let's say it was? Let's say it was Fair Use versus a few more dollars in Media Conglomerate X's pockets. I'm siding with Fair Use. I'm siding with culture. And no, I'm not going to shed tears for Media Conglomerate X.
But fair use isn't going away. Obviously that hypothetical would provoke a different reaction from me.
But for now I'm pretty sure Sailor Moon Nickelback youtube vids are going to be less under attack than the dude who streams the World Series or UFC PPVs from a website, or leaks footage of an unreleased movie on youtube.
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Using elements from those things though, that's all good and fun. Or should be. I've seen YouTube videos pulled, no shit, for having like 10 seconds of Lethal Weapon footage or audio in them. That's not right, and the idea that actions like those can escalate to putting someone in prison makes me long for a better America.
I was never suggesting that it's "right" to just pirate shit indiscriminately - my comments were in the context that this law was trying to somehow battle against fair use, which it doesn't seem to be.