Everytime you reach for the remote or controller, have a friend take a shot at your head. And then have them say, "NO, BAD" in a stern voice whilst waggling their finger in disapproval.
Enterprise didn't have the Emergency Medical Hologram, your argument is invalid.
I said most. The Doctor was the one character I actually liked (there's a reason probably my favorite episode of the ones I've seen takes place half a galaxy away and stars just him). Harry and Tom were too bland to really hate, and 7 of 9 could occasionally be interesting despite the stupid costume. The rest can all die in a fire.
That was Neelix. He was the best part of the game Star Trek Voyager: Elite Force, because I could blow him up with my portable photon torpedo launcher.
His girlfriend Kes was alright, if a little bland.
I still think they should make a star trek where it's a different ship/crew in every episode. Sorta like a twilight zone.
I'd like one where the main cast isn't the captain/first officer/senior staff, but a bunch of Junior and Middle Ranking officers, like that episode "Lower Decks".
I still think they should make a star trek where it's a different ship/crew in every episode. Sorta like a twilight zone.
Oh yes that would be awesome. Not only different ship/crew ... but leave the Federation once in a while. Make a completely Klingon/Romulan/whathaveyou episode or mini-arc of episodes. Show life outside Starfleet. Make episodes about a distant listening posts where absolutely nothing happens.
I think the "different crew/different ship" scenario has been done to death ... they should approach this in new ways. Such an episodic show could easily run next to how ever many movies JJ Abrams is gonna do ...
This made me mentally go through the rest of the Voyager crew to make sure I wasn't missing anyone else likeable.
Let's see, you've got Captain Janeway, whose voice could curdle milk, and whose performance, all vocal qualities aside, was full of bizarre little tics and smug smiles that drove me up the wall. I'm not sure whether it was the fault of the actress or the director, but I can only remember buying her as a Starfleet captain once- I believe in the episode Human Error when she was dressing down 7, and that lasted about 30 seconds before snapping back into smarm-mode.
There was the cook Neelix, the most annoying person in the universe. Hint to TV writers: intentionally annoying characters should only be such to the characters on the show, not the viewers as well. See also: Dawn from Buffy. (I never saw enough of Kes to form an opinion, but she seems like generic vague space psychic babe from what I know)
There was Tuvok, least convincing Vulcan ever. I don't think it's that was that he was black, I just never bought the character. He came off as too unintentionally expressive, maybe?
There was B'Elanna Torres, the first valley girl Klingon. Apparently her makeup was originally going to be more pronounced, but the actress complained it was too ugly and they prettified it up. They should have just fired her right then, you never heard that shit from Michael Dorn.
There was Chakotay, whose actor pretty quickly came to hate the show and made sure it showed in his performance.
... Yep, I think I was justified. Torpedo tube airlocking for the lot of them. If the Doctor had remained stuck in the Alpha Quandrant after the episode I mentioned before and it became the "Robert Picardo and Andy Dick have wacky space adventures in a stolen prototype ship" show for the rest of its run, I would have been far happier, and I don't even like Andy Dick.
Yep, Doctor wins the Best Character Trophy in Voyager. I think the runner up would be Seven of Nine, who managed to succeed in spite of how shallow her character concept appears to be at first glance, but kinda got overexposed as time went on. Third (fairly distant) place would be Tuvok, because I enjoyed the "Tuvok investigates a crime" episodes.
As for Harry Kim...I don't know what they were doing with him. Neither did Garrett Wong.
I still think they should make a star trek where it's a different ship/crew in every episode. Sorta like a twilight zone.
Oh yes that would be awesome. Not only different ship/crew ... but leave the Federation once in a while. Make a completely Klingon/Romulan/whathaveyou episode or mini-arc of episodes. Show life outside Starfleet. Make episodes about a distant listening posts where absolutely nothing happens.
I think the "different crew/different ship" scenario has been done to death ... they should approach this in new ways. Such an episodic show could easily run next to how ever many movies JJ Abrams is gonna do ...
I might watch that.
Then again, it would have bad carrythrough.
I mean, you'd need a killer stable of writers to guarantee success, because, well, you don't got any other constants, and you don't have the width of stories you get in, say, Twilight Zone to say "ANYTHING could happen." (Or maybe Doctor Who, but that show is a heck of an anomaly.)
There wouldn't be anyone you could say "Sure, it might be a weak episode, but come on. Avery Brooks is going to sell the hell out of it." or "Enver Gjokaj is amazing. Seriously, this guy... show sucks, but THIS GUY!"
All you got is every episode as a standalone thing. Episode premise, and faith in the guys making it. Nothing else to lean on.
Look at, hmm. Look at Global Frequency. I need to see the pilot some time, but as a comic it's got a wide premise. Organization of 1,000 strangers who are all experts at something, miracle workers in their specialties. You get the call, you're on the frequency and holy shit, you need to be good because you're the last hope for solving the problem. One issue is an alien intelligence memetically taking over the world, another is a killer cyborg, a third is bog standard counterterrorism. New characters, artist, and threat.
Even then, the mission control characters are constant. More importantly, when they tried to sell the show, they had to add more reoccurring cast members.
So, yeah. Would be interested, but it'd need to be good, and there's no way I can see it selling to a studio.
Also Torres may have been a meh character, but I like the one where she's split into her Klingon and Human halves. Yes, the biology of it is almost as dumb as "Warp 10 -> Salamander Babies", but the episode does a good job of making sure you don't dwell on it, and Torres' actress does a good job with both roles.
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I am in agreement with this.
It's not saying much admittedly, since I wanted to actively stab most of the Voyager characters, wheras the Enterprise crew was mostly just bland.
more than Enterprise, anyway
could never really get into that
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I said most. The Doctor was the one character I actually liked (there's a reason probably my favorite episode of the ones I've seen takes place half a galaxy away and stars just him). Harry and Tom were too bland to really hate, and 7 of 9 could occasionally be interesting despite the stupid costume. The rest can all die in a fire.
Ugh.
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His girlfriend Kes was alright, if a little bland.
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I'd like one where the main cast isn't the captain/first officer/senior staff, but a bunch of Junior and Middle Ranking officers, like that episode "Lower Decks".
The early Voyager seasons didn't have many high points, but Kes dumping Neelix was one.
Also this.
Oh yes that would be awesome. Not only different ship/crew ... but leave the Federation once in a while. Make a completely Klingon/Romulan/whathaveyou episode or mini-arc of episodes. Show life outside Starfleet. Make episodes about a distant listening posts where absolutely nothing happens.
I think the "different crew/different ship" scenario has been done to death ... they should approach this in new ways. Such an episodic show could easily run next to how ever many movies JJ Abrams is gonna do ...
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goddamn his voice is like honey on toast
~4:25 for some interesting perspective on why he took the role
Let's see, you've got Captain Janeway, whose voice could curdle milk, and whose performance, all vocal qualities aside, was full of bizarre little tics and smug smiles that drove me up the wall. I'm not sure whether it was the fault of the actress or the director, but I can only remember buying her as a Starfleet captain once- I believe in the episode Human Error when she was dressing down 7, and that lasted about 30 seconds before snapping back into smarm-mode.
There was the cook Neelix, the most annoying person in the universe. Hint to TV writers: intentionally annoying characters should only be such to the characters on the show, not the viewers as well. See also: Dawn from Buffy. (I never saw enough of Kes to form an opinion, but she seems like generic vague space psychic babe from what I know)
There was Tuvok, least convincing Vulcan ever. I don't think it's that was that he was black, I just never bought the character. He came off as too unintentionally expressive, maybe?
There was B'Elanna Torres, the first valley girl Klingon. Apparently her makeup was originally going to be more pronounced, but the actress complained it was too ugly and they prettified it up. They should have just fired her right then, you never heard that shit from Michael Dorn.
There was Chakotay, whose actor pretty quickly came to hate the show and made sure it showed in his performance.
... Yep, I think I was justified. Torpedo tube airlocking for the lot of them. If the Doctor had remained stuck in the Alpha Quandrant after the episode I mentioned before and it became the "Robert Picardo and Andy Dick have wacky space adventures in a stolen prototype ship" show for the rest of its run, I would have been far happier, and I don't even like Andy Dick.
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As for Harry Kim...I don't know what they were doing with him. Neither did Garrett Wong.
Just both of them, working on engineering for some odd reason.
can Janeway juggle being a captain and a mother in the 23rd century??
it's a universal constant
You would be surprised at how fun the episode actually is.
I might watch that.
Then again, it would have bad carrythrough.
I mean, you'd need a killer stable of writers to guarantee success, because, well, you don't got any other constants, and you don't have the width of stories you get in, say, Twilight Zone to say "ANYTHING could happen." (Or maybe Doctor Who, but that show is a heck of an anomaly.)
There wouldn't be anyone you could say "Sure, it might be a weak episode, but come on. Avery Brooks is going to sell the hell out of it." or "Enver Gjokaj is amazing. Seriously, this guy... show sucks, but THIS GUY!"
All you got is every episode as a standalone thing. Episode premise, and faith in the guys making it. Nothing else to lean on.
Look at, hmm. Look at Global Frequency. I need to see the pilot some time, but as a comic it's got a wide premise. Organization of 1,000 strangers who are all experts at something, miracle workers in their specialties. You get the call, you're on the frequency and holy shit, you need to be good because you're the last hope for solving the problem. One issue is an alien intelligence memetically taking over the world, another is a killer cyborg, a third is bog standard counterterrorism. New characters, artist, and threat.
Even then, the mission control characters are constant. More importantly, when they tried to sell the show, they had to add more reoccurring cast members.
So, yeah. Would be interested, but it'd need to be good, and there's no way I can see it selling to a studio.
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