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My wife and I were given a 6-setting set of Noritake China in the Goldkin pattern not too long ago to sell. The backstamp doesn't have a number on it, but I have found the exact set on a china replacement piece website. The only thing is that I don't know if this set truly is 78+ years old (as it was discontinued in 1933) because I had seen articles about faking the backstamp and Chinese knockoffs of Japanese china. Here are some pictures of the set/pattern/backstamp if anyone can help me determine if they're genuine. Thanks!
Random googling claims that you should be able to see your own finger in reflection if you look at it straight. I dunno about the veracity of that claim though.
It's supposed to be bone china right?
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edit: I'd bet that they are real, they look right for all the sets, the real question is what set are they?
The sets that are newer than 1933 have design numbers as well as the handles for the lidded pieces being drastically different. The backstamps for the newer sets have the 4 digit pattern number, so if these are indeed real like I think they are, they've got to be the oldest pattern.
If you click on the 1950's link you will see that the 50's version is out, as they replaced the M with an N in the backmark.
I can't seem to find a mark for the third version they talk about on replacements.com
If you look at the 1930s link the mark does indeed look like the one there. I do wish it was somewhat more zoomed out as it only shows the mark and not all the "goldkin" part and the patent applied for part, which worries me. I'd submit it to them for review.
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and I wonder about my neighbors even though I don't have them
but they're listening to every word I say
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Donovan PuppyfuckerA dagger in the dark isworth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered Userregular
edited July 2011
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It's supposed to be bone china right?
but they're listening to every word I say
http://www.noritakechina.com/older_discontinued_patterns.htm
This website they suggest has 3 entries for goldkin.
http://www.replacements.com/china/N15.htm
2 of the sets are much newer than 1933.
edit: here http://www.replacements.com/webquote/N__GOLDK.htm
here http://www.replacements.com/webquote/N__GOLDKI.htm
and here http://www.replacements.com/webquote/N__GOLDKIN.htm
edit: I'd bet that they are real, they look right for all the sets, the real question is what set are they?
but they're listening to every word I say
This site has a submit for assessment link for backstamps.
but they're listening to every word I say
The sets that are newer than 1933 have design numbers as well as the handles for the lidded pieces being drastically different. The backstamps for the newer sets have the 4 digit pattern number, so if these are indeed real like I think they are, they've got to be the oldest pattern.
If you click on the 1950's link you will see that the 50's version is out, as they replaced the M with an N in the backmark.
I can't seem to find a mark for the third version they talk about on replacements.com
If you look at the 1930s link the mark does indeed look like the one there. I do wish it was somewhat more zoomed out as it only shows the mark and not all the "goldkin" part and the patent applied for part, which worries me. I'd submit it to them for review.
but they're listening to every word I say