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Recommend some PC games

ninjaininjai Registered User regular
edited July 2011 in Help / Advice Forum
So here is a very broad question. I want to play a game, one that is currently released, a blockbuster must play for the PC and I must not have played it before. (Preferably a lengthy RPG)

Here's a list of games that I own/have played for PC (to the best of my knowlege)
+ = favorite
Shooters:
UT 99/2k3/2k4/3
CS 1.6/Source
HL 1
HL2/Chapter 1/2+
Borderlands+
Battlefield (various)
Crysis/2
Call of Duty (various)
Portal/2
Brink
TF 2
Dead Space
L4d
Mirrors Edge

RPG's
MORROWIND+++
Mass Effect/2++
Kotor++
Jade Empire
Baulders Gate 1/2
Neverwinter nights 2
Dragon Age:Origins
Diablo 2
Oblivion
Fallout 3
Torchlight (meh, needed coop)
LoL HoN DoTA

MMO's
WoW+
WAR
EVE++
Conan
Aion
SW Galaxies

RTS:
SC/II+++++++++
Command and COnquer (Various)
Civ IV/V (V+)
Supreme Commander (mmmmmmmeh)
Age of Empires II/III
Age of Mytho
Total War (Various)

Also, I hate Fable so that doesn't count.

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  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    the witcher?

    combat is balls, story is good. the witcher 2 is out and a much better game, but I'm not sure if I can recommend it without having played the first one.

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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    If you like Morrowind more than all those other games then you might enjoy some of the older RPGs that preceded it. Neverwinter Nights 1, other older D&D stuff.

    Blockbuster RPGs don't really come out that often and certainly don't fly under the radar. You've listed out most of the current ones.

    The Witcher is the only one I can think of that might fit the bill.

    Other than that try looking back to the 90s

    You said KOTOR but didn't specify KOTOR 2... bad ending aside, KOTOR 2 is a technically superior product in a lot of ways.

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  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    I just picked up Alpha Protocol and it actually reminds me a lot of the first Mass Effect game play wise. It is kinda buggy though.

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    KotOR II, Alpha Protocol, Planescape: Torment, Fallout, Fallout 2, Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines, Dead Space 2, Deus Ex.

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  • SyrdonSyrdon Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Planescape: Torment and NWN 2: mask of the betrayer. I'd skip the main game and go right to the expansion for NWN 2, they're both quite good.

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  • bobmyknobbobmyknob 3DS Friend Code 4553-9974-2186 Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Fallout New Vegas

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  • ninjaininjai Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    KOTOR II as far as I'm aware is an xbox exclusive. I've never seen it on PC. In any case, I played about 40 hrs of it and the story didn't grab me.

    The witcher is a winner, I want to play 2, but never bothered to pick up the first. Same with deus ex. I gotta get those 2.

    And FO3 is not a game I would play an expansion for, the game wasn't that good in the first place. It was obliviguns. Didn't like oblivion either... Srsly, morrowind, game of the decade, oblivion, overhyped game of the decade. You want an RPG that is actually a shooter play borderlands. NWN 2 I already have the expansions. I didn't like the first dead space, or I would have picked up the sequel already.


    Thanks for the recommendations, but this just goes to show I already know whats out there... great...

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  • 815165815165 Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Quake Live is free and seems like it'd fit in with your list of FPS.

    edit: turns out i didn't read the thread properly, but i'll just leave this here anyway, sorry

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  • ShimShamShimSham Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    You mentioned Origins, but have you tried Dragon Age II? Many don't believe it's as good as Origins, and on the whole I don't. However, it does do several things better than Origins and it's still a very good game in its own right.

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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    KOTOR 2 is definitely on the PC

    I know this because I have it for the PC and played it for the PC and I don't even own an Xbox.

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  • E.CoyoteE.Coyote Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Legacy of Kain and its many sequels?

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  • Nova_CNova_C I have the need The need for speedRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Since you love Morrowind and hate Fallout 3 I'm thinking my taste in games is diametrically opposed to yours, but Titan Quest is a pretty wicked action rpg. It's a Diablo clone clickfest, with a brilliant classing system that is set across several ancient mythological settings. Greece, Egypt, Babylon, etc. Pretty sweet.

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  • kaliyamakaliyama Left to find less-moderated fora Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Deus ex

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Neverwinter Nights, and the two expansion packs, Shadows of Undrentide and Horde of the Underdark are both totally awesome games.

    I would also recommend giving Deus Ex a go, but if you can't get into it don't feel too bad, a lot of the love that people have for it is nostalgic and while it is still fun if you like it, it hasn't aged well for a first playthrough,.

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  • Hahnsoo1Hahnsoo1 Make Ready. We Hunt.Registered User, Moderator, Administrator admin
    edited July 2011
    If you are talking about Fallout New Vegas as an "expansion" for Fallout 3, it's not. It's a standalone game that's also completely incompatible with Fallout 3 (unless you somehow get the buggy mod Requiem for a Wasteland working). It has a lot of great improvements to the engine (for one thing, you can use "true iron sights" on all of the guns, and the shooting is much improved), but more importantly, the team behind Fallout 2 wrote the game. A lot of folks who hated Fallout 3 have jumped ship to New Vegas as the once and future game of Bethesda engine games (at least, until Skyrim comes out).

    Of course, you also listed Dota, HoN, and LoL as RPGs, for some reason.

    If you liked Half-Life, I'd give Singularity a whirl. It's not long, but it's well-done. It starts out with more of a Bioshock vibe, but ends up being more like Half-Life 2. Speaking of which, your list includes neither Bioshock games. Both are worth playing, memes aside. Just toss out anything you've heard about either one and start playing them on their own merits.

    If you are looking for RPGs along the vein of NWN2 or Dragon Age, I highly suggest giving the Drakensang series a spin. Based on Der Schwartze Auge (the Dark Eye, Germany's biggest pen and paper RPG), the games are pretty much a German version of Dungeons and Dragons in the NWN2/Dragon Age style. The 2nd one and its expansion are better, but both games are solid RPGs.

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  • SiskaSiska Shorty Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Well, you seem to have played most everything so I am gonna suggest 2 older games that are my favorite rpgs. Wizardry 8 and Spellforce 1.

    Wizardry 8 is an older game with a pretty open world. Create a party of 6 from a bunch of races, classes, skills and spells. Lots of loot (and endless supply of enemies). Graphics are rather outdated, so look up some screenshots to see if that is something you can stand.

    Spellforce 1 is also a fairly old game. It's more of a strategy/rpg. Think Diablo 2 meets Warcraft 3. Create one hero, level him/her up, learn skills and spells, find loot. But also build and defend outposts, gather resources, build armies.

    Not idea how big of a blockbuster these games are, but they are something I would replace in a heartbeat if I ever lost them. You would have to look at some place like amazon.com for any of these games, Should be fairly cheap. For Spellforce look for a collection that include Spellforce 1&2 + all expansions.

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  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    ninjai wrote: »
    The witcher is a winner, I want to play 2, but never bothered to pick up the first. Same with deus ex. I gotta get those 2.

    I'm not entirely sure if I'm parsing this correctly, but you haven't played any of either these games or their sequels? Witcher 1 isn't really necessary to enjoy 2, but while they play pretty differently, you'll probably not want to go back to the first after playing the 2nd, take that as you will.

    As for Deus ex, 2 isn't worth it. But supposedly there's some hype surrounding the 3rd game, which is coming out in a month

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  • EgoEgo Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Did you ever play the original Half Life? I know some people (get off my lawn!) are put off by the graphics, but it's honestly such a good game. So much better than HL2.

    Other than that, I'd second recommendations of Deus Ex and New Vegas. Deus Ex, as has been mentioned, doesn't exactly age well in a lot of ways. But it's a really stellar game, so if you can get past that (there are mods for visual improvements) it's worth doing. And New Vegas, as has also been mentioned, is a much better game than Fallout 3 and very enjoyable. I too liked Morrowind a lot more than oblivion, (actually I couldn't get into oblivion at all) so maybe it's worth a shot.

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  • RadicalTurnipRadicalTurnip Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    What's that you say? New Vegas is more like Fallout 2? I...may have to try it then.

    You haven't mentioned anything about Strategy games, do you not like them? Command and Conquer, Starcraft, Total War, and their ilk? These are some of my favorites, but if you aren't into strategy games, then my reccomendations are going to be limited.

    KotOR II was definitely for computer, it only came out for xbox months later.

    Have you played the original Halo? Considered an XBox game, but it came out for the computer. The first two "Gothic" games were...okay, but kinda' meh. They may have gotten better in sequels though, and I noticed recently that #4 just came out. What about Dungeon Siege III? Just came out, looked pretty cool. I played a bit of II also, and it was cool, I just found it monotonous.

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  • BlindZenDriverBlindZenDriver Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    How can this thread have gotten so far and no one has mentioned S.T.A.L.K.E.R.?

    There are three games plus a lot of fan made stuff on top and to me it is clearly the best series of games ever. The games demand a lot from the player so they are not really for those starting out with gaming but from the list you give of games played it's clear that should not be a problem and chances are you'll find them very rewarding. (The first game was buggy at release, make sure to get all updates and consider adding one of those complete mod packs as well).

    As perspective here are some other games I like:

    Terminator Future Shock (Yes, I am that old).
    Unreal
    UT (and the newer versions). (I sometimes still dream of fights on Deck16][)
    Q+Q3
    NOLF+NOLF2
    Arena, Daggerfall
    Far Cry 1+2
    Crysis
    FEAR
    Duke Nukem 3D
    Max Payne
    Deus Ex (but not DeusEx2 and so far I fear DeusEx3 will be a let down as well)

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  • BerserkisBerserkis Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Starcraft 2 (if you like rts games)

    Civilization (any numbered one)

    Oldie but goodie - Planescape Torment

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  • ninjaininjai Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    I forgot to list the RTS's I'm a huge gamer, and there are games in every genre that I esteem in my top 10 of all time. I just forget them sometimes

    Also, I HAVE an xbox 360, played the xbox when it was out, ps1/2, 64/snes/nes, DSi/GBA/GBC/GB etc etc... I'm just needing some PC love cuz there aint really been shit lately.

    Yes I have played HL1. You cannot be considered a gamer until you beat HL1 and 2. Until then you're just a casual gamer.

    I've always MEANT to pick up STALKER, just never got around to it. I tend to forget about it, then when I get bored like this, go "Hey, STALKER, I should get that... but X game is coming out soon :( " lol

    Is Dragon Age II good? I mean, like Mass Effect 2 vice Mass Effect good? Or is it Kotor II vice Kotor good. If its the first, I'll pick it up, if its the second, fuck that.

    If KOTORII is on PC, I'll give it another shot. I didn't like it the first time, maybe my SWTOR craving will coax me through it.

    If you're saying FO:NV is not an expansion then I'll pick it up and give it a shot. If its actually a rpg/shooter now that is, and not an RPG with guns. (I hate leaving whether I hit or not up to a die roll.... Like in morrowind blech)

    I couldn't get into the first bioshock, IDK what it was but I just never "got" it. I'll give the second one a whirl at some point, but it isn't really a priority since I didn't care for the first one.

    Halo and Halo 2 came out for PC, but... I played them for hundreds of hours on xbox, that didn't keep me from buying copies anyway, but I never installed them.

    Edit: If DOTA LOL et al are not RPG's then what the fuck are they?

    You kill stuff for money and xp, level up to gain abilities, and optimize gear.

    Sounds SUSPICIOUSLY like an RPG to me bro. Sure the die hard retards might say "NUH UH IT R A TAWER DIFFENSE GAEM! LULZ!?!?#@#>@$&(*$" and they would be right, but those game fall under a subgenre of RPG.

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  • Great ScottGreat Scott King of Wishful Thinking Paragon City, RIRegistered User regular
    I second Planescape: Torment if you like large involved RPGs.

    Also, Fallout NV is *not* Fallout 3 (hardcore mode is a great idea), but it is similar enough that if you don't like "Obliviguns" you probably won't like it. Keep in mind that unlike FO3 FONV has a real (and good) main storyline. That is replayable to get different endings.

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  • ninjaininjai Registered User regular
    I suppose my view of Oblivion is not a popular one? Morrowind is a clearly superior game, though it was released something around 5 years prior.

    I always wondered what was with FO3's story. "Find your dad. Found your dad. End the game." sweet.

  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    The core gameplay isn't that different in New Vegas, though the addition of iron sights helped surprisingly much. The real difference is in the story. Mainly, that it actually had one. But then again, that's what obsidian is known for.

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  • Hahnsoo1Hahnsoo1 Make Ready. We Hunt.Registered User, Moderator, Administrator admin
    If you are good at first person shooters like Call of Duty that rely on Iron Sights for aiming, you'll find that Fallout: New Vegas is much better than Fallout 3 in transferring over those FPS skills. You'll still need to find some decent weapons before you'll start to destroy things with headshots (the starting Varmint Rifle and 9mm pistols are pretty pathetic), and you'll probably want to level up your Guns skill (you get a small damage bonus and if you meet the prerequisite skill level for a particular gun, you won't suffer a weapon sway penalty). But even if you have 100 Guns, if you can't aim and shoot a target, you'll have trouble in non-VATS combat.

    If you think RPGs are "levelz and lootz, equipping gearz", then you really need to state that this is your working definition of an RPG, because there are hobillions of games with that sort of mechanic that no one would classify as part of the RPG genre. They'd say it has "RPG elements", but what that really means is persistent stat tracking that influences gameplay. For example, Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare has leveling and gear, but most folks would put it under the genre of "First Person Shooter" rather than "RPG".

    The hallmarks of an RPG typically include involved dialogue and a story, as well as a de-emphasis on the action elements (typically relegated to mini-games). Most of the core mechanics are determined by random number generators and choices rather than skill (although there are exceptions). In other words, you don't have to be a hardcore gamer to be good at RPGs, which is typically why they are so broadly appealing to casual players.

    Most people would classify DOTA, LoL, and HoN as real-time team-based competitive strategy games rather than RPGs. Player skill determines your ability to win, and there is no story or dialogue that progresses in a meaningful arc. While there is some persistent stat tracking that determines your initial power level in some of these games, for the most part they are balanced for a multiplayer competition, closer to a sports game than an RPG.

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  • chiasaur11chiasaur11 Never doubt a raccoon. Do you think it's trademarked?Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Nobody mentioned X-Com yet?

    Well, might as well mention. On the one hand, it's old and mean as sin. Doesn't play around, the only tutorial is in the manual, and every time you think you understand what you're in for, it's just the prelude to another brutal reaming. Fifty percent fatalities for an average mission until you figure out what you're doing.

    On the other? Cheap (five bucks on steam), and some of the most brilliant game design known to man. Two separate interlinking layers, global research management and nice tight tactical RPG play. Evolving tech tree, base building, air combat, all the fun of being in charge of the world's last best chance.

    Astonishingly deep for the time, too. Unit growth, overwatch is included, juggling the desires of your bosses to maintain funding while minimizing risk (funding is determined based on performance by location rather than lump score), managing storage space, avoiding death by smoke inhalation from the spreading fires of your poorly conceived grenade volley, lot of neat stuff.

    Including fully destructible terrain. If it exists, it can be destroyed with sufficient firepower.

    UFO defense or Apoc would both be worth a look if you can tolerate old school gaming. Skip TFTD, Enforcer, and Interceptor.

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  • ninjaininjai Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Hahnsoo1 wrote:
    Most people would classify DOTA, LoL, and HoN as real-time team-based competitive strategy games rather than RPGs. Player skill determines your ability to win, and there is no story or dialogue that progresses in a meaningful arc. While there is some persistent stat tracking that determines your initial power level in some of these games, for the most part they are balanced for a multiplayer competition, closer to a sports game than an RPG.

    I've never met anyone who would call it that. Maybe "Tower Defense" for obvious reasons... cuz thats what the genre is called, but nearly every game has RPG ELEMENTS, but when those ELEMENTS form the basis for the entire game, then yeah, its an RPG. Dialogue and story don't exactly exist in every RPG. That isn't my working definition of an RPG, but that allows me to categorize LoL as an RPG without repercussion.

    Lets break it down, RPG (role playing game) is a game where you adopt the ROLE of another person. By that definition any video game could be considered an RPG, but lets go just a tiny bit deeper than that. Video games that adopt systems similar to those of the classic DnD would be considered an RPG. Loot. Levels. Abilities. In DnD ANYTHING happens as far as story, or lack there of, and communication or lack there of. I've played many tabletop sessions where story and dialogue had NOTHING to DO with our play, we were in it for pizza and beer, so we would set up a dungeon, LEVEL UP and FIND LOOT.

    People aren't STILL playing DIABLO II for the STORY AND DIALOGUE. They're playing for the loot grind.
    Noone is playing WoW for its epic story arc (maybe world immersion, but I digress)... THEY'RE PLAYING FOR THE RAID LOOT!

    Not to say that an epic story isn't welcome, because goddamit, Morrowind is STILL one of my favorite games of all time... But I've played through multiple times having KILL CAIUS COSADES... meaning... NO... STORY. You kill him the story ends, and you simply have an open world to fuck around in.

    BTdubz, I hate call of duty (as a PC gamer) because they dun fucked up with MW 2.

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  • ninjaininjai Registered User regular
    Also, anyone heard of X3, someone told me it was good.

  • RT800RT800 Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    There's Divinity II - The Dragon Knight Saga.

    Typical sword and sorcery RPG adventure. Levels. Loots. Overarching quest to save the world while helping the locals. Also you can turn into a dragon.

    Reminds me of WoW, only single player.

    There's a demo on Steam.

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  • ninjaininjai Registered User regular
    I could have sworn divinity was an MMO, I will check that out immediately.


    Y'know if I wind up with all these games I'm gonna run out of hard drive space.

    And I think you're missing the point.

    The level/loot thing was just to show that LoL is an RPG, not to show a simplistic understanding of RPG's on my part. ...

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