Alright, I am watching "Emancipation" right now on Netflix and this "Mongols think Sam is the hottest piece of white ass ever" plot is just laughable, and not in a good way.
That is quite possibly the worst episode in the series. I just watched it as well.
Also, why the hell is Shang Tsung's daughter white.
More commentary on "Emancipation": given everything else you've seen about this culture, why does it surprise anybody in the least that the way the "spirits decide" is through combat to the death? Wouldn't you just basically assume? And shouldn't you clarify points like this before you agree to the whole thing?
Holy shit this. It's like O'Neill has never watched a TV show about anything ever. I wouldn't mind so much except that most of the time, the team is very good at recognizing tropes and assuming correct things.
"Fight with a rival Mongol chieftain? Oh I'm sure this is just some friendly judo, first to hit the mat loses, right?
The hard truth is that, in retrospect, they totally should've gone with Colonel Kennedy's plan in The Enemy Within and kept Kawalsky in a cell for a year or two.
It wouldn't be that long before a Goa'uld extraction became a somewhat casual thing.
I know, right? I never understood why
no one else who had a Goa'uld removed had the Goa'ul personality take over like Kawalsky did.
Edit: And Maybourne is my favorite antagonist in the whole series, I think. He's just such an asshole.
Well they didn't really get the snake out of Kowalsky.
that was just the skin it shed to fool them, while it just went deeper into his brain/spine.
And Emancipation is far from the worst episode of the series. One False Step anybody?
Emancipation was just there to prove that Sam, who up till then had only really done sciency smart stuff and talked a bunch of shit at that first briefing, could walk the walk. They had to show she could genuinely kick ass right away.
First they came for the Muslims, and we said NOT TODAY, MOTHERFUCKERS
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ArtreusI'm a wizardAnd that looks fucked upRegistered Userregular
ArtreusI'm a wizardAnd that looks fucked upRegistered Userregular
Oh man I also like the episode Upgrades. I'm watching it right now.
O'Neil knocks Teal'c out while they are boxing. He says "I'm really sorry" when they get to the medical bay. Teal'c says "You are not" .... "He's right about that"
On to "The Broca Divide" now. Is it me or was it really, really tacky to have the big, African-American Marine be the first one to get "touched" and start losing his shit? Also, not such a great episode for Sam as she gets all jungle-horny, coming right off spending most of the previous episode in Mongol harem girl garb.
On a brighter note, I believe this is Dr. Frasier's first appearance?
On to "The Broca Divide" now. Is it me or was it really, really tacky to have the big, African-American Marine be the first one to get "touched" and start losing his shit?
Also, not such a great episode for Sam as she gets all jungle-horny, coming right off spending most of the previous episode in Mongol harem girl garb.
On to "The Broca Divide" now. Is it me or was it really, really tacky to have the big, African-American Marine be the first one to get "touched" and start losing his shit?
Also, not such a great episode for Sam as she gets all jungle-horny, coming right off spending most of the previous episode in Mongol harem girl garb.
I don't know what you mean.
That guy was in the Air Force.
No, he's very clearly a Marine, they refer to him (Lt. Johnson) as such.
On to "The Broca Divide" now. Is it me or was it really, really tacky to have the big, African-American Marine be the first one to get "touched" and start losing his shit?
Also, not such a great episode for Sam as she gets all jungle-horny, coming right off spending most of the previous episode in Mongol harem girl garb.
I don't know what you mean.
That guy was in the Air Force.
No, he's very clearly a Marine, they refer to him (Lt. Johnson) as such.
Nit-pick: if the "curse" affects the Touched through dormant, primitive parts of the brain, how does that explain the changes in physical appearance? Why does everybody start to look all caveman-y and then change back to normal when they get the antidote?
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Nit-pick: if the "curse" affects the Touched through dormant, primitive parts of the brain, how does that explain the changes in physical appearance? Why does everybody start to look all caveman-y and then change back to normal when they get the antidote?
magnets!
First they came for the Muslims, and we said NOT TODAY, MOTHERFUCKERS
Nit-pick: if the "curse" affects the Touched through dormant, primitive parts of the brain, how does that explain the changes in physical appearance? Why does everybody start to look all caveman-y and then change back to normal when they get the antidote?
The implication is that... it activates the parts of your DNA that want to make you like a caveman? Even though DNA is never even mentioned once and even then it wouldn't make any sense?
Yeah, let's go with magnets.
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On to "First Commandment." Guys, I'm sorry, talking about this planet having higher UV radiation and the trees or whatever and Daniel wearing shades doesn't make it look any different from the backwoods of British Columbia where you filmed every off-world excursion before and would film every one after.
Also, what's with Daniel saying this Stargate is "literally out in the middle of nowhere"? Again, it's in the middle of a forest identical to the ones you traipse through most episodes and how do you know how far it is from anything else anyway if this is the first time you've been through?
Anyway, would I be correct in thinking the concept of this episode is basically "SG-1 does Joseph Conrad's Heart of Darkness"? Would that be a fair summarization?
Gaslight on
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ArtreusI'm a wizardAnd that looks fucked upRegistered Userregular
Fortunately I've never had any problem with all of the planets looking the same.
Fortunately I've never had any problem with all of the planets looking the same.
I think they are pretty.
I don't particularly mind it myself, usually, I think of it as part of the charm and you're right that if you can only film in one location there are worse locations than B.C., but when they try to convince us it looks different through dialogue when it clearly does not it just makes me laugh.
Further hilarity (at least to me): in the first scene, where this conversation with the first reference to the planet's sun takes place, only Daniel is wearing shades. In the next scene, he's just wearing his regular glasses and Jack and Sam put on shades. They continue to wear them or not wear them during every daylight scene seemingly at random for the rest of the episode, except there's never a time when all three have them on, and Teal'c never wears any at all because he is too much of a badass to need them apparently.
For being an anthropologist, biblical studies are clearly not Daniel's area of expertise. He refers to Abraham as "a figure believed to be the father of man." Uh, no, you're thinking of Adam, Abraham is just the father of the Jews through Isaac and Arabs through Ishmael.
I'd love to know what the plan for keeping the natives in righteous fear of the "gods" once the supply of ammunition that came through the gate ran out was.
Gaslight on
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His brief stint on Burn Notice was pretty good. Don't know if I can remember seeing him in anything since though.
Yeah, Victor was great.
A quick check on IMDB shows that he was apparantly Hawkman in Smallville and has had one off appearances in Supernatural and Sanctuary, to name a few roles.
All the human adversaries in the series (excluding Universe because in that one they're the main characters) are always so slimy and obviously evil. You can tell within one second they're bad guys. The only one that really becomes likable is Maybourne, mostly because he comes back so often and always one-ups his own douchebagginess in an increasingly adorable way.
Simmons also, but mostly because John DeLancie is so fun to watch acting.
Well Maybourne is a total ass early on
But yeah later down the line he becomes really cool. It's funny because Jack hates him so much, and when they get trapped on that planet together they actually start to get along
I always felt kinda sorry for MAJ/LTC Samuels. He wasn't truly a bad guy, he was just kind of an asshole. Most of the time his criticisms were valid, he just always came off as an asshole. Even when, no, especially when he claimed he was rooting for SG-1.
Man I'm listening to some old Stargate podcasts and they're talking about Atlantis' cancellation and how it's all good because they're gonna make an Atlantis movie and Universe and the MMO and there's a third SG-1 movie coming out.
Yeah, about that.
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I was wondering about that, did the other movies just not get off the ground?
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That is quite possibly the worst episode in the series. I just watched it as well.
Also, why the hell is Shang Tsung's daughter white.
Holy shit this. It's like O'Neill has never watched a TV show about anything ever. I wouldn't mind so much except that most of the time, the team is very good at recognizing tropes and assuming correct things.
"Fight with a rival Mongol chieftain? Oh I'm sure this is just some friendly judo, first to hit the mat loses, right?
WHAT"
Well they didn't really get the snake out of Kowalsky.
And Emancipation is far from the worst episode of the series. One False Step anybody?
Emancipation was just there to prove that Sam, who up till then had only really done sciency smart stuff and talked a bunch of shit at that first briefing, could walk the walk. They had to show she could genuinely kick ass right away.
Which one was that. I want to see it again.
Yes. The look on Hammond's face when Jack
was fantastic.
On a brighter note, I believe this is Dr. Frasier's first appearance?
"You have the strength of ten men."
"Oh, so nothing's changed."
everyone cool's favorite episode
I don't know what you mean.
No, he's very clearly a Marine, they refer to him (Lt. Johnson) as such.
But Wormhole X-Treme! and 200 are really up there IMO, they are goddamned hilarious.
Oh.
magnets!
The implication is that... it activates the parts of your DNA that want to make you like a caveman? Even though DNA is never even mentioned once and even then it wouldn't make any sense?
Yeah, let's go with magnets.
It's actually several planets that are affected.
Also, what's with Daniel saying this Stargate is "literally out in the middle of nowhere"? Again, it's in the middle of a forest identical to the ones you traipse through most episodes and how do you know how far it is from anything else anyway if this is the first time you've been through?
Anyway, would I be correct in thinking the concept of this episode is basically "SG-1 does Joseph Conrad's Heart of Darkness"? Would that be a fair summarization?
I think they are pretty.
I don't particularly mind it myself, usually, I think of it as part of the charm and you're right that if you can only film in one location there are worse locations than B.C., but when they try to convince us it looks different through dialogue when it clearly does not it just makes me laugh.
Further hilarity (at least to me): in the first scene, where this conversation with the first reference to the planet's sun takes place, only Daniel is wearing shades. In the next scene, he's just wearing his regular glasses and Jack and Sam put on shades. They continue to wear them or not wear them during every daylight scene seemingly at random for the rest of the episode, except there's never a time when all three have them on, and Teal'c never wears any at all because he is too much of a badass to need them apparently.
For being an anthropologist, biblical studies are clearly not Daniel's area of expertise. He refers to Abraham as "a figure believed to be the father of man." Uh, no, you're thinking of Adam, Abraham is just the father of the Jews through Isaac and Arabs through Ishmael.
I'd love to know what the plan for keeping the natives in righteous fear of the "gods" once the supply of ammunition that came through the gate ran out was.
Yeah, Victor was great.
A quick check on IMDB shows that he was apparantly Hawkman in Smallville and has had one off appearances in Supernatural and Sanctuary, to name a few roles.
This is one of a number of reasons why Michael Shanks/Daniel Jackson used to be one of my heroes.
Rammy almost made Andromeda watchable all by herself. Allmost.
Yes! I keep forgetting this!
He was also Machello, I believe.
It also explains why she was absent for a good amount of time (pregnancy) since at the time I was worried that they had written her character out.
Well Maybourne is a total ass early on
But yeah later down the line he becomes really cool. It's funny because Jack hates him so much, and when they get trapped on that planet together they actually start to get along
Also when he sets himself up as a King
Love that episode so much
I remember a docu thing on one of the DVD's where Chris Judge busts into his trailer, cameras running, and jumps on Michael Shanks when he is sleeping
It's pretty hilarious
He basically never did something that wasn't trying to stop the Stargate and/or SG-1 from existing.
SG-1 always went off to do crazy, one in a million shit
And we, the viewers, know they will win, but in the setting people don't
So it makes sense that they wouldn't rest the future of Earth on a band of plucky adventurers because General Hammond believes in them, maaaaan.
Yeah, about that.