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DrezDrez Registered User regular
edited August 2011 in Debate and/or Discourse
So, an argument just broke out between a few of us in the movie etiquette thread and I thought we should just hash all this out right now.

First off, you have your national/international fast food chains. I'm talking from an East Coast/New England (northeastern) American perspective. My choices are generally Burger King, McDonald's and Wendy's. There's also a Checkers here. NYC itself has a few extra options, like Five Guys and White Castle. It doesn't have an In-N-Out Burger, which I consider the crème de la crème of patty-based fast foods.

Personally I'd rate the ones I have easy access to as follows: Five Guys > Wendy's ~= Checkers > Burger King > McDonald's > being hit in the face with a shovel covered in Ebola virus > White Castle.

If I were adding In-N-Out Burger to the mix, I would place that WAY above the others. I'm rather upset that there are none on the east coast.

There are some people here who think Five Guys is better than In-N-Out Burger and I think that is utter silly goosery. First off, while price doesn't really affect taste, Five Guys is expensive. A burger is $6.99 with nothing else. Just the burger and condiments (admittedly prepared any way you like, which is a service I enjoy). A double-pattied burger is $8.99. I can go to Applebees and get a cheaper burger. Probably not one as good, but still. I think $9 is reaching beyond normal fast food pricing. Then you add on fries and a drink and you're looking at a $15 meal.

In-N-Out is the perfect blend of meat, bread, and cheese, and it is relatively inexpensive. Like McDonald's pricing for what tastes like an orgasm.

That's my stance, anyway.

Then you get beyond meats into chicken and whatnot.

For instance, Popeye's versus KFC. KFC isn't bad, but it's also not good. Popeye's is much better. I'm not too familiar with other chicken-related fast food places, but in the East, these are the big two I am familiar with. Popeye's makes the perfect butter-drenched biscuits which just taste amazing and also fatty but you are distracted by the amazingness of it.

Then you get into non-chicken, non-burger type fast food. For instance, Taco Bell. Taco Bell, like White Castle, is gross. I only go there when I'm drunk. Taco Bell is like the one night stand of fast food places. You'd never go there sober, and then you wake up in the morning to a few empty wrappers lying in your bed thinking "oh god, what have I done?" But it's the most common "mexican fast food" place here, I guess. Chipotle is much better. I also like Qdoba and I think the general consensus is that Qdoba > Chipotle, but Chipotle is more common and I swear their burritos are like 2 pounds each.

I guess that's all I have to say for now.

What's a Sonic, btw?

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  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    Carl's Jr./Hardee's all the way.

  • So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    Chipotle
    Taco Del Mar
    Jimmy John's
    In N Out
    these are the superior ones, everything else is bad!

  • thatassemblyguythatassemblyguy Janitor of Technical Debt .Registered User regular
    Two of the big reasons why I like In-N-Out is that they don't franchise, and they have a commitment to quality ingredients.

    Five Guys is good, but like you said, the price makes it an every once and a while kind of deal. I do enjoy, however, that they offer jalapeños as a condiment for my double bacon-cheese burger.

  • thatassemblyguythatassemblyguy Janitor of Technical Debt .Registered User regular
    So It Goes wrote:
    Chipotle
    Taco Del Mar
    Jimmy John's
    In N Out
    these are the superior ones, everything else is bad!

    Meh, had Jimmy John's free sample sandwhich once. I was unimpressed. In my opinion, a creative 3-year-old could have produced a better sandwich with sand from a sand box.

  • So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    as far as fast food sandwiches, they are the bestest

  • DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    You forgot Shake Shack.

  • South hostSouth host I obey without question Registered User regular
    So It Goes wrote:
    Chipotle
    Taco Del Mar
    Jimmy John's
    In N Out
    these are the superior ones, everything else is bad!

    Meh, had Jimmy John's free sample sandwhich once. I was unimpressed. In my opinion, a creative 3-year-old could have produced a better sandwich with sand from a sand box.

    Jimmy John's main advantage is that in many areas, they are the only place that is open past 9 pm that serves something other than hamburgers/tacos.

    Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.
  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited August 2011
    Deebaser wrote:
    You forgot Shake Shack.

    Yeah...never actually ate there, wasn't sure if it was really fast food or what.

    I really need to eat at one, don't I?

    Are there any in LES or near Times Square? I think there's one in the 50s and near 9th ave or something?

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  • stevemarks44stevemarks44 Registered User regular
    I dont know where you're getting that Five Guys price, Drez.

    Where I went to school it was 4.99ish for a burger, which is the normal burger size (plus any combo of toppings and condiments, including bacon)

    In LA it is about $5.39.

  • DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    Taco Bell Chicken Burrito and Fresco Steak Soft Taco

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    I have never understood the love for Jimmy John's. Such awful fucking sandwiches. I personally think Subway is an improvement over them.

  • So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    Taco Bell is the worst

    like I eat it sometimes but my body revolts and I always regret it

  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited August 2011
    I dont know where you're getting that Five Guys price, Drez.

    Where I went to school it was 4.99ish for a burger, which is the normal burger size (plus any combo of toppings and condiments, including bacon)

    In LA it is about $5.39.

    From eating at them in NYC. :(

    edit: I mean that's what the prices are here.

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  • thatassemblyguythatassemblyguy Janitor of Technical Debt .Registered User regular
    South host wrote:
    So It Goes wrote:
    Chipotle
    Taco Del Mar
    Jimmy John's
    In N Out
    these are the superior ones, everything else is bad!

    Meh, had Jimmy John's free sample sandwhich once. I was unimpressed. In my opinion, a creative 3-year-old could have produced a better sandwich with sand from a sand box.

    Jimmy John's main advantage is that in many areas, they are the only place that is open past 9 pm that serves something other than hamburgers/tacos.

    Hmm, sounds like there is an opportunity here to provide a better service. I like that the area where I'm located, has multiple food types represented in a late-night fashion, so no matter what kind of hungry-drunk you are; there's something for you to eat (cue in, "that's what she said" jokes).

  • MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    Some of these are CO things so not a national set. Also our Chipotles are awesome, but the original restaurant is like a block from my grad school. So they are probably just a step above for being here first.

    Five Guys
    Chipotle
    Good Times
    Chick-fil-a(Just on the tasty chicken)

    And that is basically all the fast food I will eat now.

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  • thatassemblyguythatassemblyguy Janitor of Technical Debt .Registered User regular
    I dont know where you're getting that Five Guys price, Drez.

    Where I went to school it was 4.99ish for a burger, which is the normal burger size (plus any combo of toppings and condiments, including bacon)

    In LA it is about $5.39.

    Where I'm at, a double-patty with a regular fry costs ~$11. Prices may vary by franchise or region, but this is speculation on my part, not researched fact.

  • DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    So It Goes wrote:
    Taco Bell is the worst

    like I eat it sometimes but my body revolts and I always regret it

    It's all in what you get. There are seriously some quick and cost efficient gems there. It's basically like mine sweeper on expert mode.

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  • So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    So It Goes wrote:
    Taco Bell is the worst

    like I eat it sometimes but my body revolts and I always regret it

    It's all in what you get. There are seriously some quick and cost efficient gems there. It's basically like mine sweeper on expert mode.

    no

    it is all terrible

  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited August 2011
    So It Goes wrote:
    Taco Bell is the worst

    like I eat it sometimes but my body revolts and I always regret it

    It's all in what you get. There are seriously some quick and cost efficient gems there. It's basically like mine sweeper on expert mode.

    I don't know about that. I think they cook everything in a vat of disease. I have never eaten White Castle Taco Bell and not felt sick the next day.

    edit: Brain fart.

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  • DoctorArchDoctorArch Curmudgeon Registered User regular
    edited August 2011
    Dick's in the Seattle area is a good fill-in for an In-N-Out.

    And I went by my first White Castle when I was visiting Cincinnati with my fiance about a year ago. I asked her if I could go there, having never gone before, she said "No, you don't want to do that, trust me" and that was that.

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited August 2011
    DoctorArch wrote:
    Dick's in the Seattle area is a good fill-in for an In-N-Out.

    And I went by my first White Castle when I was visiting Cincinnati with my fiance about a year ago. I asked her if I could go there, having never gone before, she said "No, you don't want to do that, trust me" and that was that.

    Your fiance is wise.

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  • thatassemblyguythatassemblyguy Janitor of Technical Debt .Registered User regular
    So It Goes wrote:
    So It Goes wrote:
    Taco Bell is the worst

    like I eat it sometimes but my body revolts and I always regret it

    It's all in what you get. There are seriously some quick and cost efficient gems there. It's basically like mine sweeper on expert mode.

    no

    it is all terrible

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03VWAQ7z5nI

  • thatassemblyguythatassemblyguy Janitor of Technical Debt .Registered User regular
    DoctorArch wrote:
    Dick's in the Seattle area is a good fill-in for an In-N-Out.

    And I went by my first White Castle when I was visiting Cincinnati with my fiancée about a year ago. I asked her if I could go there, having never gone before, she said "No, you don't want to do that, trust me" and that was that.

    It was more for her benefit... Those tiny caramelized onions create some of the most foul-smelling-sewage gas that a human can pass.

  • DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    Drez wrote:
    Deebaser wrote:
    You forgot Shake Shack.

    Yeah...never actually ate there, wasn't sure if it was really fast food or what.

    I really need to eat at one, don't I?

    Are there any in LES or near Times Square? I think there's one in the 50s and near 9th ave or something?

    There's even one in BPC now. Take the ferry tomorrow and get a shack single with a chocolate milkshake.

    You can thank me later.

  • stevemarks44stevemarks44 Registered User regular
    My favorite thing about eating in LA is that cheap, well made and fresh Mexican food is always abundant.

  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    Deebaser wrote:
    Drez wrote:
    Deebaser wrote:
    You forgot Shake Shack.

    Yeah...never actually ate there, wasn't sure if it was really fast food or what.

    I really need to eat at one, don't I?

    Are there any in LES or near Times Square? I think there's one in the 50s and near 9th ave or something?

    There's even one in BPC now. Take the ferry tomorrow and get a shack single with a chocolate milkshake.

    You can thank me later.

    Taking the ferry would require me to spend time on a boat with other Staten Islanders.

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  • DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    Yeah, but on Staten Island you are literally surrounded by them. At least on the ferry you've got decent percentage of cheap-ass euro-tourists.

  • zerg rushzerg rush Registered User regular
    Drez wrote:
    There are some people here who think Five Guys is better than In-N-Out Burger and I think that is utter silly goosery. First off, while price doesn't really affect taste, Five Guys is expensive. A burger is $6.99 with nothing else. Just the burger and condiments (admittedly prepared any way you like, which is a service I enjoy). A double-pattied burger is $8.99. I can go to Applebees and get a cheaper burger. Probably not one as good, but still. I think $9 is reaching beyond normal fast food pricing. Then you add on fries and a drink and you're looking at a $15 meal.

    ...

    For instance, Popeye's versus KFC. KFC isn't bad, but it's also not good. Popeye's is much better. I'm not too familiar with other chicken-related fast food places, but in the East, these are the big two I am familiar with. Popeye's makes the perfect butter-drenched biscuits which just taste amazing and also fatty but you are distracted by the amazingness of it.

    Once you're into those price ranges, you might as well go to a restaurant. Islands Burgers is better than In-N-Out, and you can call-ahead for carry out, but they're restaurant prices. Once you clear 10 dollars a meal, you open yourself to all sorts of competition from local stores.

    Case in point: KFC. We have an amazing restaurant that does pick-up near my house that sells 4pc Wing, Breast, Thigh, and Drumstick for 7.50. That comes with home made cornbread and two heaping portions of sides. Aside from the fact that it's so delicious to die for, and the chicken pieces are roughly twice as large as at KFC (and made fresh), it's cheaper. KFC charges 6.50 for the same cuts of chicken, with no sides and no cornbread. Upping it to a combo meal takes you to the 10 dollar range. Also, if you decide you want to sit inside, you're treated to a local place people actually want to hang out at, musicians on the weekends, and respectful high class clientele. Versus, you know, KFC where they have to put the fluorescent lights on ultra-brite to keep away the meth heads.

  • DoctorArchDoctorArch Curmudgeon Registered User regular
    My favorite thing about eating in LA is that cheap, well made and fresh Mexican food is always abundant.

    Ironically enough, this is also the case in Eastern Washington due to the large migrant population. Fucking fantastic Mexican food.

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited August 2011
    Deebaser wrote:
    Yeah, but on Staten Island you are literally surrounded by them. At least on the ferry you've got decent percentage of cheap-ass euro-tourists.

    I like euros with cheap ass.

    edit: Wait, I read your post wrong.

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  • South hostSouth host I obey without question Registered User regular
    South host wrote:
    So It Goes wrote:
    Chipotle
    Taco Del Mar
    Jimmy John's
    In N Out
    these are the superior ones, everything else is bad!

    Meh, had Jimmy John's free sample sandwhich once. I was unimpressed. In my opinion, a creative 3-year-old could have produced a better sandwich with sand from a sand box.

    Jimmy John's main advantage is that in many areas, they are the only place that is open past 9 pm that serves something other than hamburgers/tacos.

    Hmm, sounds like there is an opportunity here to provide a better service. I like that the area where I'm located, has multiple food types represented in a late-night fashion, so no matter what kind of hungry-drunk you are; there's something for you to eat (cue in, "that's what she said" jokes).

    I think NC just sucks for late night stuff. Where I went to college, even the bars shut down at 2 or 3 am on weekends. And the only places open 24 hours were a pharmacy, a grocery store, Cookout, and Taco Bell. Hell, even Wendy's closed at 1 am.

    Where I am now, the only places open 24 hours are a Wal-Mart, McDonald's, and...I think that's it.

    Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.
  • thatassemblyguythatassemblyguy Janitor of Technical Debt .Registered User regular
    South host wrote:
    South host wrote:
    So It Goes wrote:
    Chipotle
    Taco Del Mar
    Jimmy John's
    In N Out
    these are the superior ones, everything else is bad!

    Meh, had Jimmy John's free sample sandwhich once. I was unimpressed. In my opinion, a creative 3-year-old could have produced a better sandwich with sand from a sand box.

    Jimmy John's main advantage is that in many areas, they are the only place that is open past 9 pm that serves something other than hamburgers/tacos.

    Hmm, sounds like there is an opportunity here to provide a better service. I like that the area where I'm located, has multiple food types represented in a late-night fashion, so no matter what kind of hungry-drunk you are; there's something for you to eat (cue in, "that's what she said" jokes).

    I think NC just sucks for late night stuff. Where I went to college, even the bars shut down at 2 or 3 am on weekends. And the only places open 24 hours were a pharmacy, a grocery store, Cookout, and Taco Bell. Hell, even Wendy's closed at 1 am.

    Where I am now, the only places open 24 hours are a Wal-Mart, McDonald's, and...I think that's it.

    That's... unfortunate. On the other hand, McD's isn't terrible food for when you're drunk-hungry. However, if you're a third-shift worker and want something decent, that sounds like balls.

  • gundam470gundam470 Drunk Gorilla CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    Taco Bell's beefy crunch burrito was the bestest thing. I can't believe they discontinued it.

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  • CorvusCorvus . VancouverRegistered User regular
    We don't have a bunch of these chains up here in Canada, or at least not in Vancouver. There's the standards McDonalds, Burger King, Wendy's, A&W for burger places. Of those, I'd put Wendy's at the top if their buns weren't crappy.

    There seems to be an upsurge in a little more expensive, not so fast, burger places tood. We've got some Fatburger locations here which is pretty good, as well as Vera's Burger Shack which is awesome, but certainly not fast.

    But really, if I'm in a mall, I'm probably eating Vietnamese from Vina.

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  • thatassemblyguythatassemblyguy Janitor of Technical Debt .Registered User regular
    Corvus wrote:
    But really, if I'm in a mall, I'm probably eating Vietnamese from Vina.

    Pho King. Yes.. it's a played out joke, but earnestly there used to be a restaurant in our area with the name. Decent pho.

  • EgoEgo Registered User regular
    edited August 2011
    Taco Bell's beefy crunch burrito was the bestest thing. I can't believe they discontinued it.

    I find there's usually at least one item I can find in a fast food place that I enjoy eating. Generally that'll be the only thing I order.

    Taco bell: crunchwrap supreme
    Taco time: soft super taco (which in my day was called a super soft taco.)
    McDonalds: chicken nuggets (till they discontinued the hot mustard sauce in Canada,) egg mcmuffins or fries.
    Burger King: whopper (with extra mayo and ketchup, because the thing is not nearly as sloppy and delicious as it was ten years ago.)
    Wendy's:spicy chicken sandwich or the chili. Used to also include the junior bacon cheeseburgers but they downgraded those, too.
    A&W: Bacon and Egger, mozza burger.

    There are no particularly special fast food places anywhere near me. I remember being excited on a trip to the states to finally try Jack in the Box (which is totally disgusting, by the way. I assume their 'two taco meal' is the worst thing on the entire menu.) I do hold a special place in my heart for the deliciously greasy burgers at burger baron, along with their french fries (which are underseasoned, but that's a pretty easy thing to fix with french fries) and deep fried mushrooms.

    edit: ooh, I forgot: Edo of Japan. That may very well be the best fast food thing ever, though I wish they had drive-through windows.

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  • oldmankenoldmanken Registered User regular
    In N Out.

    Having heard about it for so long, and having just moved to SoCal, it is exactly as awesome as I had heard. So damn good.

  • CantelopeCantelope Registered User regular
    This topic is a good example of why some people should not be allowed to feed themselves. I welcome our new robot overlords who will make dining choices for us so that we will not wallow in our own ignorance on the subject of food quality.

  • dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    Corvus wrote:
    We don't have a bunch of these chains up here in Canada, or at least not in Vancouver. There's the standards McDonalds, Burger King, Wendy's, A&W for burger places. Of those, I'd put Wendy's at the top if their buns weren't crappy.

    There seems to be an upsurge in a little more expensive, not so fast, burger places tood. We've got some Fatburger locations here which is pretty good, as well as Vera's Burger Shack which is awesome, but certainly not fast.

    But really, if I'm in a mall, I'm probably eating Vietnamese from Vina.

    you have tim hortons

    AAAAA!!! PLAAAYGUUU!!!!
  • oldmankenoldmanken Registered User regular
    Since I see them all over the place around here, anybody have an opinion on El Pollo Loco? Haven't tried it yet, and am wondering if I should bother.

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