Awesome, other people to share my thoughts with about "The Confession". My God, this was well written. Brian Michael Bendis really captured the emotion coming off of both Tony Start and Steve Rogers. Alex Maleev is an incredible artist.
Yeah, this definitely made up for all the crappy writing we saw before.
Confession was hella mawkish. If I hear Tony give that spiel one more fucking time, I am going to rip books in half. After the five millionth expository moment on the reasons behind Civil War, we fucking get it.
More like Civil War: Spinning Wheels & Treading Water.
Confession was hella mawkish. If I hear Tony give that spiel one more fucking time, I am going to rip books in half. After the five millionth expository moment on the reasons behind Civil War, we fucking get it.
More like Civil War: Spinning Wheels & Treading Water.
Confession was hella mawkish. If I hear Tony give that spiel one more fucking time, I am going to rip books in half. After the five millionth expository moment on the reasons behind Civil War, we fucking get it.
More like Civil War: Spinning Wheels & Treading Water.
Shut your piehole. I love him.
I liked Tony better when he was drunk on peppermint schnapps rather than drunk with power.
Can someone spoil it for me? My shop was out today.
Forewarning. This is a doozy. I don't half-ass (though I don't do it justice).
Tony's Confession: Tony enters the helicarrier, sits down, and is talking to someone. He explains that ahem...during an trip back in time to fight against Dr. Doom he basically saw that there was going to be a scale fight amongst superfolk. He explained that people left and right shirked off this prediction (The Illuminati being one such group), he basically kept it to himself. (It is also revealed that the man who gave Tony the advance draft of the legislation is Nick Fury) He knew his way would end in Cap hating him and the two having a friendship that couldn't be mended. But his way would prevent the possible deaths of thousands the war could've had if he hadn't acted on it. He took a position, like he thought Cap would. He knew he'd have to lie in bed with folks he loathed, and had hated the idea of registration, but it was a necessary evil. He is crying into a mirror sheen on his helmet during all of this, and finally says it all wasn't worth it. Across from him is the dead body of Captain America along with his shield.
Cap's...ahem...definative speech (prior to death):
Cap is loaded into a jail by young soldiers, one of whom salutes him. After a 22 yr old guard has an exchange with 85 yr old Cap, in comes Tony. He says he begged Cap to stop. Cap says Tony is ill. He may be out of touch, but Cap says his new powers have seriously gotta be making him ill. Tony tells him if he understood his powers, Cap would've won. Cap then says that him being in a cell doesn't mean Tony's won in the slightest. Cap goes on to say he held on to his principles and fought while Tony sold them and comprimised his. This is Cap's first knowledge that Tony became Director of SHIELD. He screams how the hell Tony elected himself as the superhero moral compass and if all of this was really worth it.
Tony tells him that he's a sore loser. As Tony walks out, Cap says you bet.
Christ, I know it's a lot of run-on and it may seem a little incoherent but please buy this issue. I'm really not doing it justice. Basically, all that matters is when Cap says (aside from Tony's part. I now don't hate him for his actions. I was pro-reg anyhow) this:
"Do you actually think the fact that you can program a computer makes you more of a human being than me? That I'm out of touch because I don't know what you know? I know what freedom is. I know what it's like to fight for it and what it costs to have it. You know comprimise."
Confession was hella mawkish. If I hear Tony give that spiel one more fucking time, I am going to rip books in half. After the five millionth expository moment on the reasons behind Civil War, we fucking get it.
More like Civil War: Spinning Wheels & Treading Water.
Shut your piehole. I love him.
I liked Tony better when he was drunk on peppermint schnapps rather than drunk with power.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! You used the word "like" when referring to a Marvel character. You're such a poser.
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When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
O wholeheartedly agree about Confession. I absolutely loved Tony Starks section. It finally portrays him in a better light than the one I saw through all of Civial War. The second part kinda confused me though, as to me anyways it ended up making him look like a dick, especially that last line of his.
O wholeheartedly agree about Confession. I absolutely loved Tony Starks section. It finally portrays him in a better light than the one I saw through all of Civial War. The second part kinda confused me though, as to me anyways it ended up making him look like a dick, especially that last line of his.
Well, I think at the time he was still mad at Captain America... I mean, just because he knew how this would go down doesn't mean there weren't hurt feelings on both sides. Clearly, that rift closed after Caps death.
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When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
O wholeheartedly agree about Confession. I absolutely loved Tony Starks section. It finally portrays him in a better light than the one I saw through all of Civial War. The second part kinda confused me though, as to me anyways it ended up making him look like a dick, especially that last line of his.
Well, I think at the time he was still mad at Captain America... I mean, just because he knew how this would go down doesn't mean there weren't hurt feelings on both sides. Clearly, that rift closed after Caps death.
Yeah, it's way easier to admit that you're a piece of shit when standing over the body of the dear friend you betrayed and caused to be killed than it is when facing that same living friend and having him point out to you what a piece of shit you've become.
O wholeheartedly agree about Confession. I absolutely loved Tony Starks section. It finally portrays him in a better light than the one I saw through all of Civial War. The second part kinda confused me though, as to me anyways it ended up making him look like a dick, especially that last line of his.
Well, I think at the time he was still mad at Captain America... I mean, just because he knew how this would go down doesn't mean there weren't hurt feelings on both sides. Clearly, that rift closed after Caps death.
Yeah, it's way easier to admit that you're a piece of shit when standing over the body of the dear friend you betrayed and caused to be killed than it is when facing that same living friend and having him point out to you what a piece of shit you've become.
Precisely. I mean, Punisher probably isn't mad at Stiltman anymore, right?
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When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
Also, remember, the Maple Leaf flag wasn't created until the 60s. And that Union Jack is part of the original WWII Canadian recruitment poster. Back then, 90% of the population here was probably British immigrants or descendants too. There was a lot of "no one fucks with the motherland" sentiment.
Though, a little googling turns up a better Canadian WWII poster to put BRB in:
OH don't get me wrong, I'm happy to be part of the Commonwealth. I'm living in the UK right now, actually.
It's just that first of all Omega Flight is supposed to be Canada's Superteam, and we've got all of one Canadian on Omega Flight. Hell, we've got USAgent? Fuck that.
Then they use the Union Jack on the recruitment posters, all WWI/WWII historical accuracy aside.
Maybe as an apology to Canada for having a U.S. citizen wipe out their super hero team?
Or, perhaps this is the first step to a broader global program? If SHIELD is the one running the 50-state initative, and SHILD operates under the mantle of the UN...
or maybe it's just a stupid, disrespectful idea, made more palatable by the presence of Beta Ray Bill...
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When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
In the eyes of the USA Canada is just another state. And since we are not offically American we get shafted with the shitty "Omega Flight" team.
If Marvel was smart they'd stick Wolverine on Omega Flight rather than the New Avengers. Cause you know, he's pretty much the only Canadian character Marvel has that anyone is familiar with.
Or has his Canadian citizenship been removed via some lame ass retcon in his never ending/changing "Origins" deal?
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Yeah, did they ever explain why Omega Flight is more or less part of the 50-state initiative?
Not yet.
There may be two, technically three, Canadians on Omega. Talisman is for sure, Sasquatch (unknown if hes on the team or what), and apparently the human form of Beta Ray Bill was a Canadian serving in the US armed forces. Still though, wearing a dead Canadian's corpse doesn't really make you a Canadian.
I'm not thrilled with the line up. Wouldn't US Agent want to be in the states, especially after Cap getting killed? And there are Canadian heroes and former members of Alpha Flight that aren't doing anything right now, such as Northstar and Aurora, Madison Jeferies, Diamond Lil, etc.
Theres a better image quality (and extra page) preview of OF #1 over at AlphaFlight.net btw. Link The forums there are probably the best place to find information on the series, Oeming, Kolins, and the colourist for the series, Reber, have all posted there.
In X-Men Annual #1 the X-Men took Northstar and Aurora to the S.H.I.E.L.D. heli-carrier in an attempt to fix the mental damage inflicted on the twins. Using their V.R. equipment the X-Men allowed the twins to relive their lives at an accelerated pace. The process was interupted near the end of the session by Exodus, creating a telepathic connection between the twins. Using each other's emotional support they apparently managed to face their inner personal turmoils. This allowed both brother and sister to gain a higher level of control of their powers, which they used to save Rogue from the Acolyte (and one-time X-woman) known as Frenzy. They are presently in the company of the X-Men.
In X-Men Annual #1 the X-Men took Northstar and Aurora to the S.H.I.E.L.D. heli-carrier in an attempt to fix the mental damage inflicted on the twins. Using their V.R. equipment the X-Men allowed the twins to relive their lives at an accelerated pace. The process was interupted near the end of the session by Exodus, creating a telepathic connection between the twins. Using each other's emotional support they apparently managed to face their inner personal turmoils. This allowed both brother and sister to gain a higher level of control of their powers, which they used to save Rogue from the Acolyte (and one-time X-woman) known as Frenzy. They are presently in the company of the X-Men.
In X-Men Annual #1 the X-Men took Northstar and Aurora to the S.H.I.E.L.D. heli-carrier in an attempt to fix the mental damage inflicted on the twins. Using their V.R. equipment the X-Men allowed the twins to relive their lives at an accelerated pace. The process was interupted near the end of the session by Exodus, creating a telepathic connection between the twins. Using each other's emotional support they apparently managed to face their inner personal turmoils. This allowed both brother and sister to gain a higher level of control of their powers, which they used to save Rogue from the Acolyte (and one-time X-woman) known as Frenzy. They are presently in the company of the X-Men.
Well that's good to hear.
Yeah... considering New X-Men was the only comic to give Northstar any kind of send off. That was one death that needed to be corrected.
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'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
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Yeah, this definitely made up for all the crappy writing we saw before.
More like Civil War: Spinning Wheels & Treading Water.
Shut your piehole. I love him.
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I liked Tony better when he was drunk on peppermint schnapps rather than drunk with power.
Forewarning. This is a doozy. I don't half-ass (though I don't do it justice).
Cap's...ahem...definative speech (prior to death):
Cap is loaded into a jail by young soldiers, one of whom salutes him. After a 22 yr old guard has an exchange with 85 yr old Cap, in comes Tony. He says he begged Cap to stop. Cap says Tony is ill. He may be out of touch, but Cap says his new powers have seriously gotta be making him ill. Tony tells him if he understood his powers, Cap would've won. Cap then says that him being in a cell doesn't mean Tony's won in the slightest. Cap goes on to say he held on to his principles and fought while Tony sold them and comprimised his. This is Cap's first knowledge that Tony became Director of SHIELD. He screams how the hell Tony elected himself as the superhero moral compass and if all of this was really worth it.
Tony tells him that he's a sore loser. As Tony walks out, Cap says you bet.
Christ, I know it's a lot of run-on and it may seem a little incoherent but please buy this issue. I'm really not doing it justice. Basically, all that matters is when Cap says (aside from Tony's part. I now don't hate him for his actions. I was pro-reg anyhow) this:
"Do you actually think the fact that you can program a computer makes you more of a human being than me? That I'm out of touch because I don't know what you know? I know what freedom is. I know what it's like to fight for it and what it costs to have it. You know comprimise."
Much obliged.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! You used the word "like" when referring to a Marvel character. You're such a poser.
Well, I think at the time he was still mad at Captain America... I mean, just because he knew how this would go down doesn't mean there weren't hurt feelings on both sides. Clearly, that rift closed after Caps death.
Yeah, it's way easier to admit that you're a piece of shit when standing over the body of the dear friend you betrayed and caused to be killed than it is when facing that same living friend and having him point out to you what a piece of shit you've become.
Precisely. I mean, Punisher probably isn't mad at Stiltman anymore, right?
Nobody can stay mad at Stiltman. ever.
"You're a dick, you murdered people"
"Look....Stilts!"
"oh Stiltman...I can't quit you."
Then a tad bit creeped out.
You mean Beta Ray Bill?
Also, remember, the Maple Leaf flag wasn't created until the 60s. And that Union Jack is part of the original WWII Canadian recruitment poster. Back then, 90% of the population here was probably British immigrants or descendants too. There was a lot of "no one fucks with the motherland" sentiment.
Though, a little googling turns up a better Canadian WWII poster to put BRB in:
OH don't get me wrong, I'm happy to be part of the Commonwealth. I'm living in the UK right now, actually.
It's just that first of all Omega Flight is supposed to be Canada's Superteam, and we've got all of one Canadian on Omega Flight. Hell, we've got USAgent? Fuck that.
Then they use the Union Jack on the recruitment posters, all WWI/WWII historical accuracy aside.
Just bitter. I loved Alpha Flight..
Or, perhaps this is the first step to a broader global program? If SHIELD is the one running the 50-state initative, and SHILD operates under the mantle of the UN...
or maybe it's just a stupid, disrespectful idea, made more palatable by the presence of Beta Ray Bill...
If Marvel was smart they'd stick Wolverine on Omega Flight rather than the New Avengers. Cause you know, he's pretty much the only Canadian character Marvel has that anyone is familiar with.
Or has his Canadian citizenship been removed via some lame ass retcon in his never ending/changing "Origins" deal?
Not yet.
There may be two, technically three, Canadians on Omega. Talisman is for sure, Sasquatch (unknown if hes on the team or what), and apparently the human form of Beta Ray Bill was a Canadian serving in the US armed forces. Still though, wearing a dead Canadian's corpse doesn't really make you a Canadian.
I'm not thrilled with the line up. Wouldn't US Agent want to be in the states, especially after Cap getting killed? And there are Canadian heroes and former members of Alpha Flight that aren't doing anything right now, such as Northstar and Aurora, Madison Jeferies, Diamond Lil, etc.
Theres a better image quality (and extra page) preview of OF #1 over at AlphaFlight.net btw.
Link The forums there are probably the best place to find information on the series, Oeming, Kolins, and the colourist for the series, Reber, have all posted there.
Well, more like enforced exile in the case of Arachne. US Agent, IIRC, is spefically sent to Omega Flight by Stark in the Choosing Sides book.
They got better, finally.
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Well that's good to hear.
Yeah... considering New X-Men was the only comic to give Northstar any kind of send off. That was one death that needed to be corrected.
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Wasn't it Reed Richards who handed the Collective over to Sasquatch?