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  • Brainiac 8Brainiac 8 Don't call me Shirley... Registered User regular
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    Angry Kirby overload! :D

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    Remember Home was developed in an era where some people thought Second Life was the next big thing in social gaming/life. Talk shows fielded questions from Second Life, Political rallies were held.

    Meanwhile MS gets rare to do what rare seemingly does best, poorly impersonate Nintendo and then does what MS does best and monetized the hell out of it.

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  • mrt144mrt144 King of the Numbernames Registered User regular
    mrt144 wrote:
    Did anyone post about PS3 and Direct TV and NFL FOOTBALL! Or are all of you abloo bloo bloo about sports being up in your vidja game thread?

    For the first time in the history of the ps3, I read this and considered buying it.

    Then I read that the service will be 340 bones. http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/08/17/directv-and-playstation-bring-nfl-sunday-ticket-to-ps3/
    We are excited to announce that PlayStation has partnered with DIRECTV to bring its popular sports subscription service, NFL SUNDAY TICKET, to the PlayStation 3 game console. PlayStation owners across the country will now have the opportunity to watch every out-of-market Sunday game on their PS3.

    How do you get in the game? At the start of the season, viewers who do not currently have access to DIRECTV will be able to subscribe to NFL SUNDAY TICKET at the season price of $339.95. Existing DIRECTV customers who already have NFL SUNDAY TICKET and NFL SUNDAY TICKET To-Go through DIRECTV can access the service on their PS3 for no additional charge.
    NFL SUNDAY TICKET is a DIRECTV-exclusive sports package that offers:
    Up to 14 NFL games every Sunday
    Full HD for every football game
    DIRECTV’s Red Zone Channel
    We know that PlayStation fans are huge sports enthusiasts, so adding NFL SUNDAY TICKET is the perfect complement to the PS3’s rapidly growing lineup of sports entertainment, including MLB.TV and NHL GameCenter. We’ll have more info, including a video tutorial and sign up information on the blog shortly. I hope you’re as excited for the football season as we are.

    Same price as normal sunday ticket without the drag of paying for Direct TV. I'd say it is totally worth it to avoid paying 40+ bucks at the bar each week and getting my pick of games.

  • AllforceAllforce Registered User regular
    Yeah this is not some new "Playstation 3 Customer Gouging", it's just the normal NFL Sunday Ticket Customer Gouging.

    Shit they used to charge 299.99 a year and then ANOTHER 99.99 if you wanted the games in HD just a few seasons ago.

  • Skull2185Skull2185 Registered User regular
    Holy cockshit! $340 for Sunday ticket?!

    For the briefest of moments I almost wanted to buy a PS3 to use as an NFL machine... fuck that noise...

    Everyone has a price. Throw enough gold around and someone will risk disintegration.
  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    The ability of the various sporting associations to exploit their fans makes Bobby Kotick look like a rank amateur.

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  • mrt144mrt144 King of the Numbernames Registered User regular
    What would you be willing to pay? 200? 150?

  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    For comparison:

    MLS Direct Kick is $100
    MLB Extra Innings $210
    NBA League Pass $180 (they also have a lesser package at $100)

  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    Everyone else is raiding their dusty boxes of old IPs, so why not EA?
    It has certainly been a long time since gamers saw a Theme Park game, even longer since the last Wing Commander title. It would appear that EA might be doing more than simply retaining the rights to those franchises, as EA Labels boss Frank Gibeau has hinted at some possible revivals for several IPs.

    "We do have a couple of old franchises that we're looking at right now… reimagining them and bringing them back," Gibeau said to CVG. "We've got 25 years of good IPs and I've worked on a few of them in my career like Road Rash and the Strike series. So I have a strong affinity for a lot of the things we've done in the past."

    The big hurdle is coming up with something meaningful. EA has to find a reason to bring those titles back, and while those games were popular in a bygone era, new technology is forcing the publisher to really find a way to make titles like Populous seem fresh.

    "Like basically what we did with Medal of Honor when we brought it back; we looked at going after more modern themes… the war that's happening now as opposed to a historical war," he explained. "That was the reason we brought Medal of Honor back."

    "But when we look at Road Rash, the Strike series or some of these other franchises we really challenge ourselves," he observed. "We can't just put them on new tech with the same gameplay from 10 years ago, we've got to have something new. That's the typical challenge that we have."

    Perhaps to help vindicate the idea is earlier confirmation by EA that Syndicate is more than likely getting a revival through Starbreeze Studios, who was responsible for The Darkness. Both companies filed trademarks on the franchise after announcing their partnership.

    http://www.industrygamers.com/news/ea-strongly-considering-revival-of-classic-franchises/

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  • Warlock82Warlock82 Never pet a burning dog Registered User regular
    Wasn't there a really, really shitty Wing Commander game on XBLA?

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  • lionheart_mlionheart_m Registered User regular
    Oh no, not the Strike series.

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  • IncindiumIncindium Registered User regular
    edited August 2011
    Nintendo 3DS Joystick Addon and possible revamp?
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/23/us-nintendo-idUSTRE77M1QA20110823

    Not quite sure what adding a joystick would do for the 3ds?

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  • RehabRehab Registered User regular
    What Frank Gibeau means to say is that they saw how Activision was selling a fuckton of units with each new Call of Duty and Modern Warfare release and that was the reason they brought Medal of Honor back. I'm surprised that they would want to actually go out of their way to remind people that they tried to revive that series though. Its "revival" was about as animated and lively as a corpse with some puppet strings tied to its limbs.

    If they brought back Road Rash, and didn't screw it up, that would be badass though.

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    Incindium wrote:
    Nintendo 3DS Joystick Addon and possible revamp?
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/23/us-nintendo-idUSTRE77M1QA20110823

    Not quite sure what adding a joystick would do for the 3ds?

    Split the market?

    It's been posted here before, but I can't really see it happening considering Nintendo's past experiences with market-splitting peripherals (the N64 memory pack, the fact that practically nobody incorporates the classic controller, etc.).

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  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    cloudeagle wrote:
    Incindium wrote:
    Nintendo 3DS Joystick Addon and possible revamp?
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/23/us-nintendo-idUSTRE77M1QA20110823

    Not quite sure what adding a joystick would do for the 3ds?

    Split the market?

    It's been posted here before, but I can't really see it happening considering Nintendo's past experiences with market-splitting peripherals (the N64 memory pack, the fact that practically nobody incorporates the classic controller, etc.).

    Motion plus, balance board, etc

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  • Hahnsoo1Hahnsoo1 Make Ready. We Hunt.Registered User regular
    I doubt a second stick is there to attract casuals to the platform, Spoit.

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    mrt144 wrote:
    Did anyone post about PS3 and Direct TV and NFL FOOTBALL! Or are all of you abloo bloo bloo about sports being up in your vidja game thread?

    For the first time in the history of the ps3, I read this and considered buying it.

    Then I read that the service will be 340 bones. http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/08/17/directv-and-playstation-bring-nfl-sunday-ticket-to-ps3/
    We are excited to announce that PlayStation has partnered with DIRECTV to bring its popular sports subscription service, NFL SUNDAY TICKET, to the PlayStation 3 game console. PlayStation owners across the country will now have the opportunity to watch every out-of-market Sunday game on their PS3.

    How do you get in the game? At the start of the season, viewers who do not currently have access to DIRECTV will be able to subscribe to NFL SUNDAY TICKET at the season price of $339.95. Existing DIRECTV customers who already have NFL SUNDAY TICKET and NFL SUNDAY TICKET To-Go through DIRECTV can access the service on their PS3 for no additional charge.
    NFL SUNDAY TICKET is a DIRECTV-exclusive sports package that offers:
    Up to 14 NFL games every Sunday
    Full HD for every football game
    DIRECTV’s Red Zone Channel
    We know that PlayStation fans are huge sports enthusiasts, so adding NFL SUNDAY TICKET is the perfect complement to the PS3’s rapidly growing lineup of sports entertainment, including MLB.TV and NHL GameCenter. We’ll have more info, including a video tutorial and sign up information on the blog shortly. I hope you’re as excited for the football season as we are.

    FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

    Goddamn it that really makes me have a competitive feeling against Live. Yes, the NFL is that important to me. It was the one equation missing from MS' E3 2010 keynote that would've had me hook, line, and sinker. And now Sony has it.

  • AegeriAegeri Tiny wee bacteriums Plateau of LengRegistered User regular
    He's still got a pretty valid point there, Nintendo are hardly afraid to throw new peripherals into the market if they feel like it (and frequently do).

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    SyphonBlue wrote:
    Good news, everyone!

    Playstation Home is undergoing renovation!
    Big things are happening in PlayStation Home this fall. Sony has announced that an entirely new Home experience is currently in the works, one which it hopes will better cater to the needs of its users and offer a better experience overall. Home will relaunch with a new Hub and destinations based on desired gaming experience.

    The new Hub "integrates games, quests, community events and user-generated content, while providing players with additional navigation, shopping, socialization and entertainment options." Essentially, it's the launch pad to anything else in Home. Within the Hub, players can go over to the Activity Board to check on quests or create their own events and share them with their friends. Users can also check out the Activity Board to quickly jump to games and content.

    Outside of the Hub, there are four main areas: Action District, Sportswalk, Adventure District and Pier Park. As you can imagine, each caters to the needs of a certain gamer -- the Action and Adventure Districts both cater to hardcore and action-adventure fans, respectively, while Sportswalk is for sports nuts. Pier Park is an interactive theme park, replete with rides and games and such.

    Feel free to continue ignoring it!

    Edit: Oh godammit

    You know what the best part is? They've shoveled so much money into that pit, and now all that money is going to shit. I was almost about to say that maybe they'll shape it into a relevant service, but then I read the general details at the bottom of that and realized they're just out of their mind.

  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    http://www.next-gen.biz/news/nintendo-confirms-3ds-trade-show
    In what appears a smart move given that its share price ended the day's trading up 8.1 per cent based on rumours that it was holding a pre-Tokyo Game Show trade event focused solely on 3DS, Nintendo has confirmed precisely that. Set for September 13, it will be open to analysts, investors and press, but not consumers.

  • Warlock82Warlock82 Never pet a burning dog Registered User regular
    Aegeri wrote:
    He's still got a pretty valid point there, Nintendo are hardly afraid to throw new peripherals into the market if they feel like it (and frequently do).

    IMO though, the difference is that those peripherals were meant to augment "new experiences" (and M+ was more or less a "we're sorry the Wiimote didn't really deliver what we kind of promised"). Nintendo is not afraid to put peripherals out if they think it would work really well with a game (even if it's only one damn game).

    But here, I mean, it's a 2nd analog stick. This isn't really innovative - it's almost admitting they fucked up. Which, did they really? I don't see what a 2nd analog stick gets them. Not that it wouldn't be nice, but there aren't really games that absolutely don't work without it. And the touch pad/gyros kind of compensate for camera stuff. So, this is just me, but I don't understand why Nintendo would suddenly be scrambling to make this frankenstein of an attachment because of some perceived threat from Vita (which is still like a year away).

    I just call BS on this whole rumor, and it kind of annoys me how much credibility news sites are giving to it.

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    Couscous wrote:
    http://www.next-gen.biz/news/nintendo-confirms-3ds-trade-show
    In what appears a smart move given that its share price ended the day's trading up 8.1 per cent based on rumours that it was holding a pre-Tokyo Game Show trade event focused solely on 3DS, Nintendo has confirmed precisely that. Set for September 13, it will be open to analysts, investors and press, but not consumers.

    For some reason the "but not consumers" bit feels very vindictive. We don't have to be there, we can learn shit through the eyes and ears of the press.

    At any rate, this is a good move. Then again, TGS has been increasingly less relevant over the years so what could we possibly find out to rekindle our interest in the damn thing?
    The answer is a new Etrian Odyssey.

  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    Aegeri wrote:
    He's still got a pretty valid point there, Nintendo are hardly afraid to throw new peripherals into the market if they feel like it (and frequently do).
    I was actually agreeing that with the earlier point about the fragmentation not mattering since 3rd parties never pick up on them. Or even most first party games for that matter

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  • mrt144mrt144 King of the Numbernames Registered User regular
    edited August 2011
    DP Brosephs4life2.

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  • PrincepeachPrincepeach Registered User regular
    Warlock82 wrote:
    Aegeri wrote:
    He's still got a pretty valid point there, Nintendo are hardly afraid to throw new peripherals into the market if they feel like it (and frequently do).

    IMO though, the difference is that those peripherals were meant to augment "new experiences" (and M+ was more or less a "we're sorry the Wiimote didn't really deliver what we kind of promised"). Nintendo is not afraid to put peripherals out if they think it would work really well with a game (even if it's only one damn game).

    But here, I mean, it's a 2nd analog stick. This isn't really innovative - it's almost admitting they fucked up. Which, did they really? I don't see what a 2nd analog stick gets them. Not that it wouldn't be nice, but there aren't really games that absolutely don't work without it. And the touch pad/gyros kind of compensate for camera stuff. So, this is just me, but I don't understand why Nintendo would suddenly be scrambling to make this frankenstein of an attachment because of some perceived threat from Vita (which is still like a year away).

    I just call BS on this whole rumor, and it kind of annoys me how much credibility news sites are giving to it.

    I don't know about credibility, but a second stick is much more than a nice bonus when you're dealing with fully 3D games. I enjoyed MGS: Peace Walker pretty good, but I never got comfortable with the controls, ever. The PS3 up-port feels almost necessary.

    Playing MGS:PW on a PS3 controller one minute and then checking out the 3DS port of MGS3 at this year's E3 really punctuates this idea, and not in a way that flatters the Nintendo handheld.

  • plufimplufim Dr Registered User regular
    edited August 2011
    The difference between the balance board and this alleged extra stick is that new 3DS's would come out with the second stick built in, if the rumor is to be believed. So existing 3DS owners would very much be split from new games. It's not like every Wii game after wii fit required the balance board, same goes for motion plus (sadly, as I had really hoped it would take off).

    Plus, the whole idea is just ludicrous. Where would it even attach? How would it do so without ruining the clamshell design of the system?

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  • Hahnsoo1Hahnsoo1 Make Ready. We Hunt.Registered User regular
    plufim wrote:
    The difference between the balance board and this alleged extra stick is that new 3DS's would come out with the second stick built in, if the rumor is to be believed. So existing 3DS owners would very much be split from new games. It's not like every Wii game after wii fit required the balance board, same goes for motion plus (sadly, as I had really hoped it would take off).

    Plus, the whole idea is just ludicrous. Where would it even attach? How would it do so without ruining the clamshell design of the system?
    It would just pop out, like the Butterfly Keyboard! Or the HP Omnibook 300! :D

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  • RakaiRakai Registered User regular
    Meanwhile at Sony: http://www.computerandvideogames.com/316662/sony-motion-controls-prevented-a-3d-vita/
    But he did go on to hint - and not for the first time from Sony - that a future model of the Vita may include a 3D option. "We wanted to offer a really, really high-resolution OLED screen, and the best way to do that was in 2D," he said, adding, "...at least for the first one."

    The thing isn't even out and they're already hinting at a redesign.

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  • DritzDritz CanadaRegistered User regular
    I thought we'd already dismissed that rumor to talk about what an RPG is (Role-Playing Game by the way)? I very much doubt there is any credibility to it at all. The general tech and increasingly the game industry seems to get off on these guessing games (anything to do with Apple is especially entertaining). Who would have thought professional guesser would be a full time occupation for people.

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  • BigJoeMBigJoeM Registered User regular
    I hope Sony doesn't redesign the Vita i think Nintendo would have been much better served leaving 3D alone even though 3D gaming has been a goal of the company for years.

    Sony should stick with what they have they are actually doing things right this time IMO no need to screw it up now.

  • RainbowDespairRainbowDespair Registered User regular
    edited August 2011
    Given how horrendous the controls on Kid Icarus 3DS are in the ground sections (based on my time with the demo), not including a second analog stick was a huge mistake on Nintendo's part. The system's focus is 3D and then they go and fail to include the industry standard method for controlling cameras in 3D. What were they thinking?

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  • ZiggymonZiggymon Registered User regular
    Rakai wrote:
    Meanwhile at Sony: http://www.computerandvideogames.com/316662/sony-motion-controls-prevented-a-3d-vita/
    But he did go on to hint - and not for the first time from Sony - that a future model of the Vita may include a 3D option. "We wanted to offer a really, really high-resolution OLED screen, and the best way to do that was in 2D," he said, adding, "...at least for the first one."

    The thing isn't even out and they're already hinting at a redesign.

    Thats just talk for, "If 3D takes off we will include it."

    The only other way Sony would use it is if the developers were all requesting it and right now Sony is too focused on getting its glasses based 3D into homes.

  • SurikoSuriko AustraliaRegistered User regular
    cloudeagle wrote:
    Everyone else is raiding their dusty boxes of old IPs, so why not EA?
    It has certainly been a long time since gamers saw a Theme Park game, even longer since the last Wing Commander title. It would appear that EA might be doing more than simply retaining the rights to those franchises, as EA Labels boss Frank Gibeau has hinted at some possible revivals for several IPs.

    "We do have a couple of old franchises that we're looking at right now… reimagining them and bringing them back," Gibeau said to CVG. "We've got 25 years of good IPs and I've worked on a few of them in my career like Road Rash and the Strike series. So I have a strong affinity for a lot of the things we've done in the past."

    The big hurdle is coming up with something meaningful. EA has to find a reason to bring those titles back, and while those games were popular in a bygone era, new technology is forcing the publisher to really find a way to make titles like Populous seem fresh.

    "Like basically what we did with Medal of Honor when we brought it back; we looked at going after more modern themes… the war that's happening now as opposed to a historical war," he explained. "That was the reason we brought Medal of Honor back."

    "But when we look at Road Rash, the Strike series or some of these other franchises we really challenge ourselves," he observed. "We can't just put them on new tech with the same gameplay from 10 years ago, we've got to have something new. That's the typical challenge that we have."

    Perhaps to help vindicate the idea is earlier confirmation by EA that Syndicate is more than likely getting a revival through Starbreeze Studios, who was responsible for The Darkness. Both companies filed trademarks on the franchise after announcing their partnership.

    http://www.industrygamers.com/news/ea-strongly-considering-revival-of-classic-franchises/

    Time for shitty sequel bingo!

    Reviving dead franchise: Check
    "Reimagining": Check
    "Going after more modern themes": Check
    Franchises not being worked on by original studios: Check

    Given the quality of MoH, I hate to think what the result of all this is going to be if they're voluntarily bringing it up as an example of what they think the best direction is.

  • NocrenNocren Lt Futz, Back in Action North CarolinaRegistered User regular
    What was bad about the new MoH? I bought it during the Steam sale and enjoyed the single player, mainly because it was exactly what it said it was, modern day Medal of Honor.

    For the record, I played Most of the MoH games and none of the CoD games except MW1/2

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  • AegeriAegeri Tiny wee bacteriums Plateau of LengRegistered User regular
    I am dreading what they might do to Wing Commander.

    I am oddly comfortable with the idea of a FPS Syndicate, so long as it captures the upgrade system, global scale corporate war and other aspects of the original game. Being able to make a custom dood with punk haircut and trenchcoat would be a bonus. I don't think the game will lose much going from an isometric action game involving shooting shit, to a first person action game involving... shooting shit.

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  • NocrenNocren Lt Futz, Back in Action North CarolinaRegistered User regular
    Don't dread too much, they already fucked that chicken.

    I think it actually got pulled from XBL because of low sales.

    The manual was aces though.
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  • AegeriAegeri Tiny wee bacteriums Plateau of LengRegistered User regular
    I didn't even realize they made another Wing Commander? Handy review link (preferably one of the more hilarious ones)?

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  • Hahnsoo1Hahnsoo1 Make Ready. We Hunt.Registered User regular
    Aegeri wrote:
    I am dreading what they might do to Wing Commander.

    I am oddly comfortable with the idea of a FPS Syndicate, so long as it captures the upgrade system, global scale corporate war and other aspects of the original game. Being able to make a custom dood with punk haircut and trenchcoat would be a bonus. I don't think the game will lose much going from an isometric action game involving shooting shit, to a first person action game involving... shooting shit.
    As long as they give you a Persuadertron, and a bunch of pedestrians to mind-control, I'd be happy.

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  • ArtereisArtereis Registered User regular
    I'm smelling a Facebook Dungeon Keeper tower defense game.

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