Its usually towards the end of a consoles lifespan that the games become rare and expensive, when titles like obscure JRPG's or AAA titles that don't sell due to the market moving onto the next console. Most of these titles are flooded out quickly in very limited release runs to get quick late sales.
The best thing also is to wait for titles that have very little chance of release digitally which isn't easy. But explains why the AES version of Twinkle Star Spirtes has nearly tripled in value compared to other AES titles.
Other than those matters listed in the Exclusions from Arbitration clause (small claims), you and the Sony Entity that you have a Dispute with agree to seek resolution of the Dispute only through arbitration of that Dispute in accordance with the terms of this Section 15, and not litigate any Dispute in court. Arbitration means that the Dispute will be resolved by a neutral arbitrator instead of in a court by a judge or jury.
Maybe kids at school can write up a no bully clause?
Proof again that the meme: Japanese only buy portable games and hate dirty foreigner games. Is based on a actual appraisal of the Japanese market place
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Philippe about the tactical deployment of german Kradschützen during the battle of Kursk:
"I think I can comment on this because I used to live above the Baby Doll Lounge, a topless bar that was once frequented by bikers in lower Manhattan."
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Proof again that the meme: Japanese only buy portable games and hate dirty foreigner games. Is based on a actual appraisal of the Japanese market place
It isn't an equal situation either. The "West" is not nearly as alien to or unfamiliar with Japanese developers and game traits as vice versa. Sure, there are tons of Japanese games that don't make the transition and would never be profitable to port due to differences in culture, game content preferences and the like, but this obstacle nothing compared to the devotion to Japanese developers, games and game content that is found in Japan. I have a friend that simply refuses the ENTIRE third-person perspective when it comes to gaming. His stubbornness is comparable to that of Japanese gamers when faced with "western" mechanics and impressions.
A lot can be explained by how and when games are played in the respective markets. Arcade-style gaming has sadly waned in the west in favor of "cinematic", high-production and streamlined games, while in Japan arcade values and mechanics are king.
Philippe about the tactical deployment of german Kradschützen during the battle of Kursk:
"I think I can comment on this because I used to live above the Baby Doll Lounge, a topless bar that was once frequented by bikers in lower Manhattan."
To be fair, before Max Payne was bald he had short dark hair, so really he just transitioned from one overused character cliche to another.
Wait, short dark hair is a cliche? On its own, or in very specific character archetypes (personality wise)? Be careful how you answer because I'm so ready to call bullshit. :P
Hair is a cliche, dude. Everybody's got it.
As far as my Payne and Lynch assertion (yeah, that's sounding tired already), it's not just because it's a bald guy in a vest, but stylistically it kind of looks, to me at least, like they're borrowing some touches. But then mostly, it's looking like someone at this Rockstar branch is a big fan of Man On Fire. It might be a great game, and I'll play it if so, but my impression is that it doesn't have the Max Payne tone that I love.
edit: hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrp I am entirely too late to be making that joke. You know what's cliche? Jokes about hair being a cliche.
Other than those matters listed in the Exclusions from Arbitration clause (small claims), you and the Sony Entity that you have a Dispute with agree to seek resolution of the Dispute only through arbitration of that Dispute in accordance with the terms of this Section 15, and not litigate any Dispute in court. Arbitration means that the Dispute will be resolved by a neutral arbitrator instead of in a court by a judge or jury.
Maybe kids at school can write up a no bully clause?
Gee, nobody saw this coming! Hoocoodanode! Thanks, Supreme Court!
Speaking of data counteracting stuff:
|System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year | YTD | Last YTD | LTD |
| PS3 | 64.786 | 33.831 | 19.907 | 917.300 | 1.017.094 | 7.004.790 |
| 3DS | 49.076 | 54.744 | | 1.776.605 | | 1.776.605 |
| PSP # | 25.404 | 30.199 | 31.570 | 1.451.576 | 1.452.949 | 18.101.788 |
| WII | 10.743 | 11.606 | 15.031 | 478.925 | 1.015.473 | 11.758.560 |
| NDS # | 4.890 | 5.710 | 39.749 | 575.635 | 1.637.347 | 32.726.335 |
| PS2 | 1.386 | 1.394 | 1.363 | 55.954 | 60.012 | 21.752.046 |
| 360 | 1.219 | 1.228 | 2.915 | 79.564 | 153.564 | 1.500.061 |
| ALL | 157.504 | 138.712 | 110.535 | 5.335.559 | 5.336.439 | 94.620.185 |
| DSiLL | 2.882 | 3.177 | 19.076 | 297.409 | 857.360 | 2.244.992 |
| DSi | 1.957 | 2.453 | 16.345 | 258.178 | 618.777 | 5.801.902 |
| DSL | 51 | 80 | 4.328 | 20.048 | 161.210 | 18.093.970 |
| PSPGo | 13 | 7 | 809 | 15.504 | 46.090 | 175.928 |
| PSP | 25.391 | 30.192 | 30.761 | 1.436.072 | 1.406.859 | 17.925.860 |
Going by this, the portables have indeed sold more than the HD systems over the last couple years. And so far this year, portables have sold a combined 3.09 million, with consoles selling a combined 2.25 million. There's a reason people say handhelds sell better in Japan.
That's the thing about Japanese sales charts... they fluctuate so much from week to week you can't trust a single week's sales to judge how well something's selling. Hell, the 360 has occasionally had good weeks when a big game hits, but overall it's selling like crap.
Other than those matters listed in the Exclusions from Arbitration clause (small claims), you and the Sony Entity that you have a Dispute with agree to seek resolution of the Dispute only through arbitration of that Dispute in accordance with the terms of this Section 15, and not litigate any Dispute in court. Arbitration means that the Dispute will be resolved by a neutral arbitrator instead of in a court by a judge or jury.
Maybe kids at school can write up a no bully clause?
Gee, nobody saw this coming! Hoocoodanode! Thanks, Supreme Court!
This kind of sucks if you use PSN, but I guess the rest of us have dodged a bullet. Just be mindful with your credit card information.
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Speaking of data counteracting stuff:
|System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year | YTD | Last YTD | LTD |
| PS3 | 64.786 | 33.831 | 19.907 | 917.300 | 1.017.094 | 7.004.790 |
| 3DS | 49.076 | 54.744 | | 1.776.605 | | 1.776.605 |
| PSP # | 25.404 | 30.199 | 31.570 | 1.451.576 | 1.452.949 | 18.101.788 |
| WII | 10.743 | 11.606 | 15.031 | 478.925 | 1.015.473 | 11.758.560 |
| NDS # | 4.890 | 5.710 | 39.749 | 575.635 | 1.637.347 | 32.726.335 |
| PS2 | 1.386 | 1.394 | 1.363 | 55.954 | 60.012 | 21.752.046 |
| 360 | 1.219 | 1.228 | 2.915 | 79.564 | 153.564 | 1.500.061 |
| ALL | 157.504 | 138.712 | 110.535 | 5.335.559 | 5.336.439 | 94.620.185 |
| DSiLL | 2.882 | 3.177 | 19.076 | 297.409 | 857.360 | 2.244.992 |
| DSi | 1.957 | 2.453 | 16.345 | 258.178 | 618.777 | 5.801.902 |
| DSL | 51 | 80 | 4.328 | 20.048 | 161.210 | 18.093.970 |
| PSPGo | 13 | 7 | 809 | 15.504 | 46.090 | 175.928 |
| PSP | 25.391 | 30.192 | 30.761 | 1.436.072 | 1.406.859 | 17.925.860 |
Going by this, the portables have indeed sold more than the HD systems over the last couple years. And so far this year, portables have sold a combined 3.09 million, with consoles selling a combined 2.25 million. There's a reason people say handhelds sell better in Japan.
That's the thing about Japanese sales charts... they fluctuate so much from week to week you can't trust a single week's sales to judge how well something's selling. Hell, the 360 has occasionally had good weeks when a big game hits, but overall it's selling like crap.
Dead Island, the new first-person zombie-RPG slaughterfest that IGN gave an 8.0 is apparently doing well commercially. In fact, it's doing very well.
This evening, the game's publisher, Deep Silver, sent out a press release informing everyone that the company has shipped over a million copies of the game to retailers in its very first week in North America alone. Two million copies of the game are expected to be shipped worldwide by week's end, according to Deep Silver.
At any rate. The new PSN terms of service pretty much effectively ban class action suits, which I'm guessing is a reaction to the Supreme Court effectively banning class action suits, unless lawyers can prove that a company has a specific, written policy in place specifically causing harm to a large number of people. So unless you're going up against Nazico or KKK LLC, there's really no way to do most class action suits anymore.
Other than those matters listed in the Exclusions from Arbitration clause (small claims), you and the Sony Entity that you have a Dispute with agree to seek resolution of the Dispute only through arbitration of that Dispute in accordance with the terms of this Section 15, and not litigate any Dispute in court. Arbitration means that the Dispute will be resolved by a neutral arbitrator instead of in a court by a judge or jury.
Maybe kids at school can write up a no bully clause?
You know if there ever was a reason for me not to own a Vita or a PS3 it would be this crap. Aside from the fact that they think plaintext was the best way to store personal information. Now they tell you that should they mess up again you can't sue them.
Awesome. Man, Sony was so awesome once long ago.
Mostly just huntin' monsters.
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Other than those matters listed in the Exclusions from Arbitration clause (small claims), you and the Sony Entity that you have a Dispute with agree to seek resolution of the Dispute only through arbitration of that Dispute in accordance with the terms of this Section 15, and not litigate any Dispute in court. Arbitration means that the Dispute will be resolved by a neutral arbitrator instead of in a court by a judge or jury.
Maybe kids at school can write up a no bully clause?
You know if there ever was a reason for me not to own a Vita or a PS3 it would be this crap. Aside from the fact that they think plaintext was the best way to store personal information. Now they tell you that should they mess up again you can't sue them.
Awesome. Man, Sony was so awesome once long ago.
Actually, that's a pretty standard disclaimer in many legal agreements.
Dead Island, the new first-person zombie-RPG slaughterfest that IGN gave an 8.0 is apparently doing well commercially. In fact, it's doing very well.
This evening, the game's publisher, Deep Silver, sent out a press release informing everyone that the company has shipped over a million copies of the game to retailers in its very first week in North America alone. Two million copies of the game are expected to be shipped worldwide by week's end, according to Deep Silver.
At any rate. The new PSN terms of service pretty much effectively ban class action suits, which I'm guessing is a reaction to the Supreme Court effectively banning class action suits, unless lawyers can prove that a company has a specific, written policy in place specifically causing harm to a large number of people. So unless you're going up against Nazico or KKK LLC, there's really no way to do most class action suits anymore.
I love when companies mention shipped figures like it's some huge success. Yay for stores buying your game!
Other than those matters listed in the Exclusions from Arbitration clause (small claims), you and the Sony Entity that you have a Dispute with agree to seek resolution of the Dispute only through arbitration of that Dispute in accordance with the terms of this Section 15, and not litigate any Dispute in court. Arbitration means that the Dispute will be resolved by a neutral arbitrator instead of in a court by a judge or jury.
Maybe kids at school can write up a no bully clause?
You know if there ever was a reason for me not to own a Vita or a PS3 it would be this crap. Aside from the fact that they think plaintext was the best way to store personal information. Now they tell you that should they mess up again you can't sue them.
Awesome. Man, Sony was so awesome once long ago.
Actually, that's a pretty standard disclaimer in many legal agreements.
Thinking about it, your right. I think this bothers me less than the actual incident. I'm finding it still hard to get over the concept of keeping plaintext versions of peoples personal information around. Maybe I'll get over it one day but it really is the main reason I am staying away from Sony right now as opposed to any fanboyisim or any of that crap.
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This first bit is from Square Enix CEO and Computer Entertainment Supplier's Association chairman Yoichi Wada:
Wada went on to say that in the past 20 years, the gaming industry has established a set of rules and regulations, but that in the future, these will need to be re-drafted to accommodate for a new generation of gamers who have not grown up with this existing framework. Wada then moved on to talk about the gameplay experience, showing a graph that measured the correlation between communication, processing power, input, and output. Around the year 2000, Wada said, the emphasis shifted from processing power to other factors. The industry now has to accommodate customer needs and processing power is no longer the sole driver.
Wada said the real shift came with the release of Nintendo's original DS console, which put the emphasis on input and paved the way for touch pads, voice control, and finally, motion control. Wada also expressed his view that there is a correlation between events happening in the gaming industry and events happening in the outside world. For example, touch panels are now featured on general-purpose machines, not just gaming machines. This emphasis on input continued until around 2010, when customers stopped investing time in trying to make the perfect gaming environment and embraced the multitude of different gaming platforms. Wada said the shift then moved towards communication, where it lies now.
Wada then said he believes the competition is no longer between dedicated gaming machines, but rather a competition between general-purpose machines, which means game developers need to focus on what kind of gaming experience they want to provide. In the end, however, it will come back to the dedicated gaming devices. Wada noted that the industry will eventually move from 3D displays to holograms, and then possibly to virtual worlds, but it will take time to reach that point. When this happens, we will see the new technology evolve in game arcades first, as has been the case in the past.
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There has has also been a shift in what consumer finds valuable in gaming experiences. Wada explained that the industry has moved on from provided data to user-generated data and from personal data to community data. People are willing to pay for something that cannot be easily copied or reproduced. Customers are only finding value in user-generated data, personal data, and community data.
And now, Sony Computer Entertainment worldwide studio president Shuhei Yoshida and senior vice president Yoshio Matsumoto, in the same article for some reason. They talk about a bunch of new features in Vita, and then dropped a bombshell: PlayStation Suite still exists!
The last item talked about in the presentation was the PlayStation Suite, a cross-platform software framework that aims to make games available on multiple Sony devices including Android OS mobile phones, Sony tablets, and the Sony Xperia Play.
Yoshida revealed the PlayStation Suite software development kit (officially titled PlayStation Suite SDK) will become available to developers this coming November and will be launched in nine countries including Japan, United States, Canada, United Kingdom, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, and Australia, with more countries to follow.
Through the service, developers can create content for PlayStation Certified devices, as well as for the Vita. Yoshida also revealed Sony plans to provide a variety of content for PlayStation Certified devices from the end of October through the PlayStation Store, starting with original PlayStation games.
Okay. The Experia Play has been out for months. Sony's crazy PlayStation tablet thing comes out this Friday. And they're not going to release the dev kit until November?! And no new games until the end of October?
Other than those matters listed in the Exclusions from Arbitration clause (small claims), you and the Sony Entity that you have a Dispute with agree to seek resolution of the Dispute only through arbitration of that Dispute in accordance with the terms of this Section 15, and not litigate any Dispute in court. Arbitration means that the Dispute will be resolved by a neutral arbitrator instead of in a court by a judge or jury.
Maybe kids at school can write up a no bully clause?
You know if there ever was a reason for me not to own a Vita or a PS3 it would be this crap. Aside from the fact that they think plaintext was the best way to store personal information. Now they tell you that should they mess up again you can't sue them.
Awesome. Man, Sony was so awesome once long ago.
Actually, that's a pretty standard disclaimer in many legal agreements.
And there is an opt-out, by the way. So if you really care, it's not a problem.
IF YOU DO NOT WISH TO BE BOUND BY THE BINDING ARBITRATION AND CLASS ACTION WAIVER IN THIS SECTION 15, YOU MUST NOTIFY SNEI IN WRITING WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THE DATE THAT YOU ACCEPT THIS AGREEMENT. YOUR WRITTEN NOTIFICATION MUST BE MAILED TO 6080 CENTER DRIVE, 10TH FLOOR, LOS ANGELES, CA 90045, ATTN: LEGAL DEPARTMENT/ARBITRATION AND MUST INCLUDE: (1) YOUR NAME, (2) YOUR ADDRESS, (3) YOUR PSN ACCOUNT NUMBER, IF YOU HAVE ONE, AND (4) A CLEAR STATEMENT THAT YOU DO NOT WISH TO RESOLVE DISPUTES WITH ANY SONY ENTITY THROUGH ARBITRATION
IF YOU DO NOT WISH TO BE BOUND BY THE BINDING ARBITRATION AND CLASS ACTION WAIVER IN THIS SECTION 15, YOU MUST NOTIFY SNEI IN WRITING WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THE DATE THAT YOU ACCEPT THIS AGREEMENT. YOUR WRITTEN NOTIFICATION MUST BE MAILED TO 6080 CENTER DRIVE, 10TH FLOOR, LOS ANGELES, CA 90045, ATTN: LEGAL DEPARTMENT/ARBITRATION AND MUST INCLUDE: (1) YOUR NAME, (2) YOUR ADDRESS, (3) YOUR PSN ACCOUNT NUMBER, IF YOU HAVE ONE, AND (4) A CLEAR STATEMENT THAT YOU DO NOT WISH TO RESOLVE DISPUTES WITH ANY SONY ENTITY THROUGH ARBITRATION
Fair enough. I retract my outrage on this point and scold myself for not fully reading before I said anything.
Doesn't change my primary problems with Sony at this point but they did the right thing by offering an Opt-Out.
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So Windows phones aren't selling very well, but that apparently doesn't have Steve Ballmer worried:
Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer said on Wednesday that although he is pleased with reaction from partners and developers to Windows Phone, the products have not been flying off store shelves as well as he hoped.
“We haven’t sold quite as many as I would have liked in the first year,” Ballmer said, speaking at the company’s financial analyst meeting.
However, he insisted the company is making progress and has more up its sleeves including improved browsing as well as bringing new features like DirectX graphics to the phone.
“I’m not saying I love where we are but I am very optimistic on where we can be,” Ballmer said. “We’ve just got to kick this thing to the next level.”
What Microsoft has managed to do in its year on the market, Ballmer said, is create “a very strong third ecosystem” to offer an alternative to Android and the iPhone.
Most importantly, Ballmer said, the company has landed, with Nokia, a hardware partner that is fully committed to Windows Phone.
“With Nokia we have a dedicated hardware partner that is all-in on Windows Phones,” Ballmer said. “They are not doing something on Android or [any other operating system].”
Nokia has said it hopes to introduce its first Windows Phones somewhere in the world this year, but has yet to announce any details on where or just when the phones will arrive.
Microsoft recently wrapped up work on Mango, the first major update to Windows Phone 7. That software is making its way to new and existing phones. Fujitsu has launched a phone in Japan while AT&T said it will start selling three new Mango-based Windows Phones from HTC and Samsung later this year.
On the plus side, getting Nokia to only make Windows phones from now on will ensure they have an entry point in the market. On the down side, this seems to be a market where people care more about the platform first and the actual phone maker second.
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EA has responded to allegations that the full-price Tiger Woods 12 game on PC is incomparable with its namesake on console.
On PC, Tiger Woods 12 lacks several of the single-player modes present on console. What's more, the console multiplayer mode has been replaced on PC by a limited three-month subscription to Tiger Woods Online.
In a statement given to Eurogamer, EA described Tiger Woods 12 on PC as "a unique experience"; one that "combines some of the best single-player game modes of the console version with the accessibility and multiplayer offerings of Tiger Woods PGA Tour Online."
"We address each customer service inquiry on a case-by-case basis and customer satisfaction is our top priority," the statement added, referring to the refunds procedure.
Since Tiger Woods 12 was released, EA's forum has been flooded with PC gamers frustrated with their version of the golf game.
So Windows phones aren't selling very well, but that apparently doesn't have Steve Ballmer worried:
Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer said on Wednesday that although he is pleased with reaction from partners and developers to Windows Phone, the products have not been flying off store shelves as well as he hoped.
“We haven’t sold quite as many as I would have liked in the first year,” Ballmer said, speaking at the company’s financial analyst meeting.
However, he insisted the company is making progress and has more up its sleeves including improved browsing as well as bringing new features like DirectX graphics to the phone.
“I’m not saying I love where we are but I am very optimistic on where we can be,” Ballmer said. “We’ve just got to kick this thing to the next level.”
What Microsoft has managed to do in its year on the market, Ballmer said, is create “a very strong third ecosystem” to offer an alternative to Android and the iPhone.
Most importantly, Ballmer said, the company has landed, with Nokia, a hardware partner that is fully committed to Windows Phone.
“With Nokia we have a dedicated hardware partner that is all-in on Windows Phones,” Ballmer said. “They are not doing something on Android or [any other operating system].”
Nokia has said it hopes to introduce its first Windows Phones somewhere in the world this year, but has yet to announce any details on where or just when the phones will arrive.
Microsoft recently wrapped up work on Mango, the first major update to Windows Phone 7. That software is making its way to new and existing phones. Fujitsu has launched a phone in Japan while AT&T said it will start selling three new Mango-based Windows Phones from HTC and Samsung later this year.
On the plus side, getting Nokia to only make Windows phones from now on will ensure they have an entry point in the market. On the down side, this seems to be a market where people care more about the platform first and the actual phone maker second.
I've been waiting for Nokia to get their asses off the ground and making smart phones. I know they had one a year or so ago that failed miserably, but that was it.
And I know a bunch of people who have Windows phones, and they've said nothing bad about them. That also seems to be the general consensus on the internet as well.
The moment that Sprint offers a Nokia with Windows, I'm all over that like something really clever goes here.
Nokia has always made great phone hardware, it's just their OS's where always shitty so them going with Windows has the potential to be awesome.
I'm currently on a prepaid Android phone, but eventually I'm going to get a 'real' smartphone, and if the Nokia Windows phones are as good as everyone hopes they are it'll be one of those.
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Brainiac 8Don't call me Shirley...Registered Userregular
We need some news that doesn't involve boring smart phones.
I test out cell phones as part of my job, and I really dig the overhauled Windows phones. Not only is the experience not a copycat of what everyone else is doing, but it works well. It's fun, and while it's still missing a few features what's there is so well-implemented it's hard to gripe too much.
The only downside is that since sales are absolute crap there's a big worry that developers will turn up their nose and the app store won't be able to catch up. That's probably why Microsoft announced they won't be taking a cut from app store sales.
At any rate. Slate has a great article on 3D movies and points out that ticket sales just keep getting worse and worse:
In this case, the red line represents the point at which a 3D movie makes exactly the same amount in 3D as it does 2D showings.
Long story short, the article argues there's four main causes to this: theater chains got greedy and jacked up the ticket prices, studios released too many 3D movies and implemented the effects shoddily, customers are over pickaxes flying out of the screen but aren't impressed by subtle effects either, and the general quality of 3D movies (as movies, not as 3D experiences) is getting crappier.
This probably helps explain why having 3D didn't really work for Nintendo and isn't really doing Sony any favors.
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Where does Avatar, with the giant blue cat-people, fit on that?
I'm just curious, as there was that whole hubbub about it being made in 3D for 3D and then ported back to 2D.
The only 3D film I'm remotely interested in seeing is that Scorsese one coming soon that isn't just pickaxes flying out if the screen or tunnel chases. I think it's some black and white noir film that he's filming totally in 3D and supposed to have some nuance to it.
When Avatar opened in 2009, it earned about $15,800 for every theater that showed the film flat, and about $26,800 for every one that showed it in 3-D.
So the ratio was quite well, but skewed by the fact that people flocked to 2D showings as well. Possibly because there wasn't enough 3D for that movie's demand.
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L Ron HowardThe duckMinnesotaRegistered Userregular
edited September 2011
Ah, I missed that in the middle of the article. I read it, but rather hastily. Sorry about that.
I test out cell phones as part of my job, and I really dig the overhauled Windows phones. Not only is the experience not a copycat of what everyone else is doing, but it works well. It's fun, and while it's still missing a few features what's there is so well-implemented it's hard to gripe too much.
The only downside is that since sales are absolute crap there's a big worry that developers will turn up their nose and the app store won't be able to catch up. That's probably why Microsoft announced they won't be taking a cut from app store sales.
At any rate. Slate has a great article on 3D movies and points out that ticket sales just keep getting worse and worse:
In this case, the red line represents the point at which a 3D movie makes exactly the same amount in 3D as it does 2D showings.
Long story short, the article argues there's four main causes to this: theater chains got greedy and jacked up the ticket prices, studios released too many 3D movies and implemented the effects shoddily, customers are over pickaxes flying out of the screen but aren't impressed by subtle effects either, and the general quality of 3D movies (as movies, not as 3D experiences) is getting crappier.
This probably helps explain why having 3D didn't really work for Nintendo and isn't really doing Sony any favors.
I'd also argue that it has to do with the general notion that even on a flat image, our brain will adjust to view it as three dimensional even when it is not. We can still see the depth in a flat image and your mind places things in the visual space as they would appear if they weren't 2D. 3D is obviously more immediate and in your face, but as mentioned, aside from the occasional gimmick there really isn't anything to "modern" 3D that is above and beyond what was "exciting" on Disney World rides in the 1980's.
And as far as the 3DS goes, while I did find it to be pretty neat I know there's no way I could play for any long duration with the 3D on (I don't own one, just using the one at Best Buy with whatever random game they happen to have in when I visit). For whatever reason, while I can fully see the 3D my eyes feel like they are constantly trying to adjust to what they're looking at and never stop. Like my eyes are perpetually cross eyed trying to look at one of those flat 3D illusion photos that were so popular in the 90's. Using active shutter 3D glasses on TV's I've checked out isn't quite as intense of an adjusting effect, but maybe it's too many years of staring at CRT monitors under fluorescent lighting, but my eyes cannot not see the shutters constantly flashing and it is the closest thing I have found to making a pill that instantly gives me a migrane.
I for one will not shed a tear when this whole 3D fad just passes on, as I honestly think it will in the next year or two (for more reasons than just this), but I do feel bad for Nintendo for putting so much stock into the idea and basing a whole portable around it. I'm glad they have an option to just turn off the 3D and I hope more developers start making games with no 3D in mind, because as far as I can tell, the system itself is perfectly fine and capable.
EDIT: I will say though, given the explanation of what the "break even" line is on that graph; it's kind of misleading as "making as much as the 2D counterpart" isn't necessarily breaking even. Breaking Even would be the point at which the 3D sales made enough over and above the 2D version to compensate for the cost of making the movie 3D vs 2D". Making the line match the 2D sales is kind of arbitrary and doesn't tell us anything really. I mean, there's a lot of factors there not limited to number of theaters and showings per movie that can actually be in 3D vs 2D, which is more standard.
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Basically, the article says that the reason why we don't like 3D is because it's a fad that's been/being rammed down our throats and we don't really like it. Combined with stuff like making horrible things into 3D simply for the sake of having them made in 3D to cash in on the cow, and we've got what I think most of us have known all along - that 3D is a stupid fad to try to get more money out of us.
At this point, is it crazy to think Nintendo is looking at making their own phone? I know it sounds crazy when I say it out loud, but damn it makes sense before vocalizing it.
And I would buy the Nintendo phone, without hesitation.
At this point, is it crazy to think Nintendo is looking at making their own phone? I know it sounds crazy when I say it out loud, but damn it makes sense before vocalizing it.
And I would buy the Nintendo phone, without hesitation.
I can't see it happening, as Nintendo has professed a deep love for its console roots and has shown no desire to pursue strategies than are needed for a successful smartphone. Things like a unified ecosystem, openness to app developers of all sizes, etc. Microsoft can't even scratch the market and Windows Phone 7 isn't bad at all.
I think we need to stop talking about cell phones so much and start talking about Capcom's earnings... which are doing well thanks to cell phones.
Capcom has updated its public expectations for revenues and earnings in the first half of the fiscal year, citing stronger than expected performance for its Japanese arcades and mobile titles like Smurfs' Village.
The company now expects revenues for the half year ending September 30 to be 28 billion yen ($365 million), up nearly 8 percent from previous estimates of 26 billion yen ($339 million). Projected net profits of 800 million yen ($10 million) for the period are 300 percent higher than previous projections of 200 million yen ($2.6 million).
Even with the increased guidance, performance for the fiscal half-year is still expected to be down from the same period in 2010, which saw revenues of 40.7 billion yen ($53 million) and net profits of 1.78 billion yen ($23 million).
In explaining the updated numbers, Capcom specifically cited strong performance for casual mobile title Smurfs' Village, which is a constant presence on Apple's top-grossing iOS game lists, and MMO Monster Hunter Frontier Online, which topped Japanese sales charts after its 2010 release on the Xbox 360.
The company also said its arcade operations have recovered well following March's Great East Japan Earthquake, with all locations now reopened and predicted electricity shortages being less severe than expected.
Capcom was reluctant to make any changes to its earnings forecasts for the full fiscal year, owing to what it called an "economic outlook [that] is becoming increasingly uncertain and market conditions [that] are changing rapidly."
At this point, is it crazy to think Nintendo is looking at making their own phone? I know it sounds crazy when I say it out loud, but damn it makes sense before vocalizing it.
And I would buy the Nintendo phone, without hesitation.
I can't see it being the case.
Nintendo very seldom moves out of it's comfort zone, even in video games they tend to be rather rigid and unflexable. Making a phone is just not something they would do, or if they did it would almost come off like a first generation cell phone with how they do things. It wouldn't have all the bells and whistles. So yeah.
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At this point, is it crazy to think Nintendo is looking at making their own phone? I know it sounds crazy when I say it out loud, but damn it makes sense before vocalizing it.
And I would buy the Nintendo phone, without hesitation.
Because I really wan't to exchange friend codes before I can call someone. :P
At this point, is it crazy to think Nintendo is looking at making their own phone? I know it sounds crazy when I say it out loud, but damn it makes sense before vocalizing it.
And I would buy the Nintendo phone, without hesitation.
Because I really wan't to exchange friend codes before I can call someone. :P
Wait, is this like a double entendre joke or something?
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The best thing also is to wait for titles that have very little chance of release digitally which isn't easy. But explains why the AES version of Twinkle Star Spirtes has nearly tripled in value compared to other AES titles.
http://kotaku.com/5840517/new-playstation-network-terms-of-service-include-a-no-suing-sony-clause
Maybe kids at school can write up a no bully clause?
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Proof again that the meme: Japanese only buy portable games and hate dirty foreigner games. Is based on a actual appraisal of the Japanese market place
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It isn't an equal situation either. The "West" is not nearly as alien to or unfamiliar with Japanese developers and game traits as vice versa. Sure, there are tons of Japanese games that don't make the transition and would never be profitable to port due to differences in culture, game content preferences and the like, but this obstacle nothing compared to the devotion to Japanese developers, games and game content that is found in Japan. I have a friend that simply refuses the ENTIRE third-person perspective when it comes to gaming. His stubbornness is comparable to that of Japanese gamers when faced with "western" mechanics and impressions.
A lot can be explained by how and when games are played in the respective markets. Arcade-style gaming has sadly waned in the west in favor of "cinematic", high-production and streamlined games, while in Japan arcade values and mechanics are king.
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Hair is a cliche, dude. Everybody's got it.
As far as my Payne and Lynch assertion (yeah, that's sounding tired already), it's not just because it's a bald guy in a vest, but stylistically it kind of looks, to me at least, like they're borrowing some touches. But then mostly, it's looking like someone at this Rockstar branch is a big fan of Man On Fire. It might be a great game, and I'll play it if so, but my impression is that it doesn't have the Max Payne tone that I love.
edit: hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrp I am entirely too late to be making that joke. You know what's cliche? Jokes about hair being a cliche.
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Speaking of data counteracting stuff:
|System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year | YTD | Last YTD | LTD |
| PS3 | 64.786 | 33.831 | 19.907 | 917.300 | 1.017.094 | 7.004.790 |
| 3DS | 49.076 | 54.744 | | 1.776.605 | | 1.776.605 |
| PSP # | 25.404 | 30.199 | 31.570 | 1.451.576 | 1.452.949 | 18.101.788 |
| WII | 10.743 | 11.606 | 15.031 | 478.925 | 1.015.473 | 11.758.560 |
| NDS # | 4.890 | 5.710 | 39.749 | 575.635 | 1.637.347 | 32.726.335 |
| PS2 | 1.386 | 1.394 | 1.363 | 55.954 | 60.012 | 21.752.046 |
| 360 | 1.219 | 1.228 | 2.915 | 79.564 | 153.564 | 1.500.061 |
| ALL | 157.504 | 138.712 | 110.535 | 5.335.559 | 5.336.439 | 94.620.185 |
| DSiLL | 2.882 | 3.177 | 19.076 | 297.409 | 857.360 | 2.244.992 |
| DSi | 1.957 | 2.453 | 16.345 | 258.178 | 618.777 | 5.801.902 |
| DSL | 51 | 80 | 4.328 | 20.048 | 161.210 | 18.093.970 |
| PSPGo | 13 | 7 | 809 | 15.504 | 46.090 | 175.928 |
| PSP | 25.391 | 30.192 | 30.761 | 1.436.072 | 1.406.859 | 17.925.860 |
Going by this, the portables have indeed sold more than the HD systems over the last couple years. And so far this year, portables have sold a combined 3.09 million, with consoles selling a combined 2.25 million. There's a reason people say handhelds sell better in Japan.
That's the thing about Japanese sales charts... they fluctuate so much from week to week you can't trust a single week's sales to judge how well something's selling. Hell, the 360 has occasionally had good weeks when a big game hits, but overall it's selling like crap.
This kind of sucks if you use PSN, but I guess the rest of us have dodged a bullet. Just be mindful with your credit card information.
Silly Cloud and your facts. 8->
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http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/119/1194620p1.html
Hooray for misleading "shipped" figures!
At any rate. The new PSN terms of service pretty much effectively ban class action suits, which I'm guessing is a reaction to the Supreme Court effectively banning class action suits, unless lawyers can prove that a company has a specific, written policy in place specifically causing harm to a large number of people. So unless you're going up against Nazico or KKK LLC, there's really no way to do most class action suits anymore.
You know if there ever was a reason for me not to own a Vita or a PS3 it would be this crap. Aside from the fact that they think plaintext was the best way to store personal information. Now they tell you that should they mess up again you can't sue them.
Awesome. Man, Sony was so awesome once long ago.
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Actually, that's a pretty standard disclaimer in many legal agreements.
I love when companies mention shipped figures like it's some huge success. Yay for stores buying your game!
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Thinking about it, your right. I think this bothers me less than the actual incident. I'm finding it still hard to get over the concept of keeping plaintext versions of peoples personal information around. Maybe I'll get over it one day but it really is the main reason I am staying away from Sony right now as opposed to any fanboyisim or any of that crap.
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http://www.gamespot.com/events/tgs-2011/story.html?sid=6334606&tag=newstop;title;2
This first bit is from Square Enix CEO and Computer Entertainment Supplier's Association chairman Yoichi Wada:
And now, Sony Computer Entertainment worldwide studio president Shuhei Yoshida and senior vice president Yoshio Matsumoto, in the same article for some reason. They talk about a bunch of new features in Vita, and then dropped a bombshell: PlayStation Suite still exists!
Okay. The Experia Play has been out for months. Sony's crazy PlayStation tablet thing comes out this Friday. And they're not going to release the dev kit until November?! And no new games until the end of October?
....no Sony, that's not how the market works.
And there is an opt-out, by the way. So if you really care, it's not a problem.
http://www.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com/SEN-legal-docs/TERMS_OF_SERVICE_AGREEMENT-EN.pdf
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Fair enough. I retract my outrage on this point and scold myself for not fully reading before I said anything.
Doesn't change my primary problems with Sony at this point but they did the right thing by offering an Opt-Out.
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http://allthingsd.com/20110914/ballmer-on-windows-phone-we-havent-sold-quite-as-many-as-i-would-have-liked/
On the plus side, getting Nokia to only make Windows phones from now on will ensure they have an entry point in the market. On the down side, this seems to be a market where people care more about the platform first and the actual phone maker second.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-09-15-ea-responds-to-tiger-woods-pc-outcry
"A unique experience". Can't argue with that.
EVERYBODY WANTS TO SIT IN THE BIG CHAIR, MEG!
I've been waiting for Nokia to get their asses off the ground and making smart phones. I know they had one a year or so ago that failed miserably, but that was it.
And I know a bunch of people who have Windows phones, and they've said nothing bad about them. That also seems to be the general consensus on the internet as well.
The moment that Sprint offers a Nokia with Windows, I'm all over that like something really clever goes here.
I'm currently on a prepaid Android phone, but eventually I'm going to get a 'real' smartphone, and if the Nokia Windows phones are as good as everyone hopes they are it'll be one of those.
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The only downside is that since sales are absolute crap there's a big worry that developers will turn up their nose and the app store won't be able to catch up. That's probably why Microsoft announced they won't be taking a cut from app store sales.
At any rate. Slate has a great article on 3D movies and points out that ticket sales just keep getting worse and worse:
In this case, the red line represents the point at which a 3D movie makes exactly the same amount in 3D as it does 2D showings.
Long story short, the article argues there's four main causes to this: theater chains got greedy and jacked up the ticket prices, studios released too many 3D movies and implemented the effects shoddily, customers are over pickaxes flying out of the screen but aren't impressed by subtle effects either, and the general quality of 3D movies (as movies, not as 3D experiences) is getting crappier.
http://www.slate.com/id/2303814/
This probably helps explain why having 3D didn't really work for Nintendo and isn't really doing Sony any favors.
I'm just curious, as there was that whole hubbub about it being made in 3D for 3D and then ported back to 2D.
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So the ratio was quite well, but skewed by the fact that people flocked to 2D showings as well. Possibly because there wasn't enough 3D for that movie's demand.
I'd also argue that it has to do with the general notion that even on a flat image, our brain will adjust to view it as three dimensional even when it is not. We can still see the depth in a flat image and your mind places things in the visual space as they would appear if they weren't 2D. 3D is obviously more immediate and in your face, but as mentioned, aside from the occasional gimmick there really isn't anything to "modern" 3D that is above and beyond what was "exciting" on Disney World rides in the 1980's.
And as far as the 3DS goes, while I did find it to be pretty neat I know there's no way I could play for any long duration with the 3D on (I don't own one, just using the one at Best Buy with whatever random game they happen to have in when I visit). For whatever reason, while I can fully see the 3D my eyes feel like they are constantly trying to adjust to what they're looking at and never stop. Like my eyes are perpetually cross eyed trying to look at one of those flat 3D illusion photos that were so popular in the 90's. Using active shutter 3D glasses on TV's I've checked out isn't quite as intense of an adjusting effect, but maybe it's too many years of staring at CRT monitors under fluorescent lighting, but my eyes cannot not see the shutters constantly flashing and it is the closest thing I have found to making a pill that instantly gives me a migrane.
I for one will not shed a tear when this whole 3D fad just passes on, as I honestly think it will in the next year or two (for more reasons than just this), but I do feel bad for Nintendo for putting so much stock into the idea and basing a whole portable around it. I'm glad they have an option to just turn off the 3D and I hope more developers start making games with no 3D in mind, because as far as I can tell, the system itself is perfectly fine and capable.
EDIT: I will say though, given the explanation of what the "break even" line is on that graph; it's kind of misleading as "making as much as the 2D counterpart" isn't necessarily breaking even. Breaking Even would be the point at which the 3D sales made enough over and above the 2D version to compensate for the cost of making the movie 3D vs 2D". Making the line match the 2D sales is kind of arbitrary and doesn't tell us anything really. I mean, there's a lot of factors there not limited to number of theaters and showings per movie that can actually be in 3D vs 2D, which is more standard.
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And I would buy the Nintendo phone, without hesitation.
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I can't see it happening, as Nintendo has professed a deep love for its console roots and has shown no desire to pursue strategies than are needed for a successful smartphone. Things like a unified ecosystem, openness to app developers of all sizes, etc. Microsoft can't even scratch the market and Windows Phone 7 isn't bad at all.
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http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/37257/Capcom_Increases_Earnings_Estimates_On_Mobile_Arcade_Performance.php
I can't see it being the case.
Nintendo very seldom moves out of it's comfort zone, even in video games they tend to be rather rigid and unflexable. Making a phone is just not something they would do, or if they did it would almost come off like a first generation cell phone with how they do things. It wouldn't have all the bells and whistles. So yeah.
Because I really wan't to exchange friend codes before I can call someone. :P
Wait, is this like a double entendre joke or something?