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I have an interesting conundrum. I have four (4) new job offers simultaneously and am currently employed full time. The company I am currently employed at is swamped - I'm far too busy for my salary and things are only getting worse. I've been trying to find new work - and now I have, all at the same time.
My concern is not for my employer. He has made an incredible sum of money on my back and, out of my own generosity I'm going to give him 4-weeks notice so I can clean up some of the last items I'm working on. My one (1) coworker is completely caught in the lurch. He's a great guy and we are friends both at and away from work. I was contemplating writing a letter to him in an attempt to express how I feel and that I hopefully will not be screwing him over - to explain that what I do is for myself and my family and isn't a reflection of how I feel about working with him.
Do you think this is a good idea or is it something that I should just have him over for dinner and discuss?
Don't write the letter. Just talk to the guy. People leave all the time, and it's your employer's fault for not considering that overworking and underpaying employees will cause an issue like this.
Frankly, I wouldn't, personally, even give more than two weeks notice. Offer to come in and help, at a consultant fee (more than your effective hourly) after that if you really care as EEP suggested.
As for the friend, if he/she isn't a tool, then they'll only have best wishes for you. We like to see our friends get ahead.
This. Especially with you giving four weeks' notice.
In fact, you might want to reconsider the four weeks' notice, unless you're very sure they won't just tell you to leave now. How long can you afford to go without a paycheck?
Take the guy out to lunch or for a beer or something and talk it over with him, but don't put shit down on paper.
Yea, don't write it. It's not the kind of sentiment that you would want to have on paper.
And as Thanatos mentioned, your employer does not have any obligation to keep you around for that period. if they choose to, they can let you go as soon as you put in your two weeks notice; it's more of a formality not a policy. If they're really as busy as you say, they may keep you around... but then again there's always temp agencies.
edit: now that I think about it, what is your employer's policy on resignation? in some cases there is policy to follow.
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That's very awesome you've got needed skills.
However, never think of yourself as irreplaceable. No matter how many system or processes you're the King/Queen of, a company can and will replace you.
So, don't write the letter, as other's have said, and I'd give two weeks notice -- if you're sure one of those other offers are solid -- and expect to be dumped when you give notice. Or, find out when the new place wants you to start; maybe even start there before giving notice if possible.
edit: If your co-worker is solid, maybe try to set him up with an interview at the places you turned down, assuming skills are compatible.
Am I in the 70s? Why am I saying 'solid' all the time?
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And are you sure these new jobs know you're not going to be available for a month? I've lost a job offer after an interview specifically because I said I wanted to give 2 weeks and the other person they were considering could start immediately, so I'm very wary about that kind of stuff now. Solid.
As for the friend, if he/she isn't a tool, then they'll only have best wishes for you. We like to see our friends get ahead.
This. Especially with you giving four weeks' notice.
In fact, you might want to reconsider the four weeks' notice, unless you're very sure they won't just tell you to leave now. How long can you afford to go without a paycheck?
Seriously. Lots of places will accept your resignation effective immediately when you offer notice, just because it's risky to have you around capable of stealing things/information.
I was just in your shoes few weeks ago. I talked to the coworkers ahead of time before I gave my two weeks. Just take the dude out for beer and tell him the situation so he can prepare and ask from you what he may need. As for giving 4 weeks. Ask yourself this does your company give you 4 weeks if they don't need you? Most companies when they fire you not due to your performance give 2 weeks pay on termination if that.
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WRT giving notice- do you have a start date set up with your new employer? Do not, under any circumstances, give notice until you have a start date, in writing, from whatever job you end up taking.
And I wouldn't give more than 2 weeks notice. I'd always be nervous about having such a long gap between giving notice and starting a new job. No job is actually a sure thing until you're sitting at your new desk. Even 2 weeks is a courtesy, not a rule. The correct answer to the question of "When can you start?" is "When do you want me to start?"
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Thanks for the tips gentlemen. The deed is done, I've signed one contract and given my letter. My coworker is coming to dinner tonight...
For the curious - I gave 4 weeks notice. I had letters for both 2 and 4 weeks notice, and discussed things civil-like with my boss, and after some discussion I gave him the 4 weeks letter. Yay for apartment hunting in a new city!
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Take the guy out to lunch or for a beer or something and talk it over with him, but don't put shit down on paper.
If you want to extend yourself for extra $, offer to assist on projects as a private contractor.
As for the friend, if he/she isn't a tool, then they'll only have best wishes for you. We like to see our friends get ahead.
This is good advice. More than likely, your friend has been looking for different employment as well.
Frankly, I wouldn't, personally, even give more than two weeks notice. Offer to come in and help, at a consultant fee (more than your effective hourly) after that if you really care as EEP suggested.
In fact, you might want to reconsider the four weeks' notice, unless you're very sure they won't just tell you to leave now. How long can you afford to go without a paycheck?
Yea, don't write it. It's not the kind of sentiment that you would want to have on paper.
And as Thanatos mentioned, your employer does not have any obligation to keep you around for that period. if they choose to, they can let you go as soon as you put in your two weeks notice; it's more of a formality not a policy. If they're really as busy as you say, they may keep you around... but then again there's always temp agencies.
edit: now that I think about it, what is your employer's policy on resignation? in some cases there is policy to follow.
However, never think of yourself as irreplaceable. No matter how many system or processes you're the King/Queen of, a company can and will replace you.
So, don't write the letter, as other's have said, and I'd give two weeks notice -- if you're sure one of those other offers are solid -- and expect to be dumped when you give notice. Or, find out when the new place wants you to start; maybe even start there before giving notice if possible.
edit: If your co-worker is solid, maybe try to set him up with an interview at the places you turned down, assuming skills are compatible.
Am I in the 70s? Why am I saying 'solid' all the time?
Seriously. Lots of places will accept your resignation effective immediately when you offer notice, just because it's risky to have you around capable of stealing things/information.
― Dr. Seuss, Oh, the Places You'll Go!
And I wouldn't give more than 2 weeks notice. I'd always be nervous about having such a long gap between giving notice and starting a new job. No job is actually a sure thing until you're sitting at your new desk. Even 2 weeks is a courtesy, not a rule. The correct answer to the question of "When can you start?" is "When do you want me to start?"
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For the curious - I gave 4 weeks notice. I had letters for both 2 and 4 weeks notice, and discussed things civil-like with my boss, and after some discussion I gave him the 4 weeks letter. Yay for apartment hunting in a new city!
You may lock this - cheers!
Out of curiousness, what notice did you end up giving? The most important is that you're comfortable, and it certainly seems that way!