Also, Mechanical, you can't turn around and do everything again. You don't unlock a complete reset in the Prestige Shop - it's a complete stat reset. You'll stay at your current level, but your Combat Record essentially gets wiped out. So if you had a low K/D because you spent the first few months trying to figure out the maps, and get used to the new weapons, and you know you can do better, you can just erase that shit and start fresh.
That's the way I've always understood it, anyway.
They're being a little too vague about this one, because there's implications that go both ways on this.
I still don't get what was wrong with World at War MP. They even caved and took tanks away from a good chunk of the playlists, so I guess you're left bitching about the MP40 or something?
Though the DLC lobby breaks were annoying as hell. Granted, you didn't really stick around long enough for that to be an issue.
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0Replace4DisplaceThe best girls are ships and guns.Registered Userregular
edited October 2011
[email protected] has some piss poor fucking balance. If you aren't using an SMG, you're doing it wrong.
The DLC shit was retarded, too. Kicking me out of a lobby is not a good way to make me want to buy your DLC.
I liked the aesthetic and size of the maps, and the weapons were cool, but the game played like shit. Knives would miss for no reason, MP40s were just silly, it has some of the worst hit detection of the entire series...
The World at War multiplayer was beyond terrible from a weapon balancing standpoint, but I would still point to poor map design as the largest issue. Maybe it's not as much of an issue in Deathmatch-type games, but Objective modes have their positions placed in really, really terrible locations. And when I say terrible, I mean your ass hangs out for all the world to see, and there's nothing you can do about it.
The spawns were pretty bad, too. The issue was that you would die and respawn at the exact same location over and over and over again. It wasn't that way in Call of Duty 4, and it hasn't been the same since. I don't know what the issue was, but when you spawn at a position once or twice and get immediately cut down, the game needs to understand that something's wrong there, and move you some place different.
And, yeah: MP40 drum mags / Juggernaut isn't exactly a little problem, either.
I will say, however, that the single player campaign in World at War was excellent. Really top-notch. Progressing through it on Veteran was a bitch (because Treyarch was still near-infinite respawns and grenade spam tactic for the AI), but the story and the characters are pretty well done. Even if you don't play the multiplayer (and I don't suggest you do, really, because it's shit), the single player is worth the price of admission.
One thing/the only thing I hate about the Zombies modes thus far is that there's no end-game. The whole "Keep going til you die" thing really annoys me, as my brain doesn't see 'Hey, you survived 5 rounds longer than last time!', it sees 'Well done, dickhead, you died again'.
I appreciate this is just the way I'm wired, but I wish they'd put in a zombies mode in the next Treyarch CoD that had a defined way to 'Win'.
One thing/the only thing I hate about the Zombies modes thus far is that there's no end-game. The whole "Keep going til you die" thing really annoys me, as my brain doesn't see 'Hey, you survived 5 rounds longer than last time!', it sees 'Well done, dickhead, you died again'.
I appreciate this is just the way I'm wired, but I wish they'd put in a zombies mode in the next Treyarch CoD that had a defined way to 'Win'.
Beating the damn E-eggs is like winning. Shangri-la took so damn long.
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joshgotroDeviled EggThe Land of REAL CHILIRegistered Userregular
OH man I lost my g36c in CoD4. I need a copy of BlOps to hit the prestige button.
It really is, yeah. What I like about it is the consistency. I think a lot of players feel that way. I often get a lot of kills in a match, but they're not always in a row, because I have to give up a life in order to take / defend an objective. In Modern Warfare 3, though, Support allows me to play that way and still run high, effective streaks. And I'm even rewarded for capturing points, taking down air support, etc.
It really is going to be a completely different game, in a lot of ways.
Run Specialist.
Get to 8 kills, and unlock every perk.
Have your Support guy drop in Juggernaut Recon armour.
...
Profit?
I know that Juggernaut Recon armour gives you a pistol and a riot shield, but I don't see any reason why you couldn't just swap the pistol out for the first gun you find laying around. You could run around with the new gun, and have a fucking riot shield on your back. Juggernaut armour, along with every perk in the game. And, what the hell, throw Ballistic Vests on top of it for good measure.
"now I've got this mental image of caucuses as cafeteria tables in prison, and new congressmen having to beat someone up on inauguration day." - Raiden333
"now I've got this mental image of caucuses as cafeteria tables in prison, and new congressmen having to beat someone up on inauguration day." - Raiden333
in regards to the stat reset, robert bowling said in an interview that is does set you back to lvl one, unprestiged. they did it to keep stuff interesting for people that get to the max level after a few months and want to start all over.
and milk ducks, i dont think the support juggernaut has a pistol, i think its just a riot shield and the assault comes with an lmg and a pistol. and even if it does, somehow i doubt they'll let you pick up someone else's weapon. that would be a tad OP. but running specialist and picking up your friend's juggernaut sounds pretty awesome.
The wiki says it gives you a USP pistol. And yeah, I'm watching videos of Juggernaut Recon in action, and after he's killing people, I'm not seeing any "press X to pick up weapon" popping up. So you're right; you probably can't pick up other people's weapons while in Recon Armour. The Assault version comes with an M60, though, so if someone's willing to part with that after they've worked their way up to it, you can still make that work, lol.
When it comes to the Recon Jug if you don't have Blast Shield you're doing it wrong. I can't think of any easier way to kill one than stunning him in place then dumping a mag into him.
When it comes to the Recon Jug if you don't have Blast Shield you're doing it wrong. I can't think of any easier way to kill one than stunning him in place then dumping a mag into him.
Seems like if you're playing with a group the easiest thing to do is have everyone create a class with stun/flash (if that works on jugs) and some sort of point n shoot rocket and just rocket rape him while he's stunned.
someone tweeted robert bowling asking why quickscoping was in MW3, and he responded that the percentage of people that do it is very low compared to how other people play the game, and the percentage of people that are actually good is even lower.
this might be true, but still. come on. (to be said in jimmy's voice from south park)
DragkoniasThat Guy Who Does StuffYou Know, There. Registered Userregular
Well...its just really. I mean when it happens it happens. I mean I hate how it looks and its abuse of auto-aim but its so inconsistent that I can shrug it off for the most part.
Really, I will say the worse thing about quickscoping is you have a bunch of douchebags acting like idiots for their youtube montages.
yeah, but i do get a certain sense of glee killing them as they jump off of buildings trying to 360 and watching their dead bodies slam onto the ground.
Psychotic OneThe Lord of No PantsParts UnknownRegistered Userregular
In the time it takes them to quick scope the holiest of all battle field relics will bitch slap them back to hell. SPAS-12 - because scopes and sights are for bitches.
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It's hard to play it now due to the abundance of hackers on it anymore, but I liked it.
They're being a little too vague about this one, because there's implications that go both ways on this.
Though the DLC lobby breaks were annoying as hell. Granted, you didn't really stick around long enough for that to be an issue.
The DLC shit was retarded, too. Kicking me out of a lobby is not a good way to make me want to buy your DLC.
I liked the aesthetic and size of the maps, and the weapons were cool, but the game played like shit. Knives would miss for no reason, MP40s were just silly, it has some of the worst hit detection of the entire series...
every fucking rifle in the game was worthless.
dogs.
but mostly, i think, i dislike that treyarch maps are designed around the idea that camping is a good thing.
that and everything, that i havent singled out as a complaint, was a simple reskin of cod4.
a reskin that they changted in specific way to make worse than the original.
That's not why I was considering it. It's just a Call of Duty game I don't have.
I did play it on the PC, though, but not long enough to form any kind of larger opinion.
Anyway, let's play more Call of Duty 4! I gotta' to prestige!
MW3 HYPE!!!!
The spawns were pretty bad, too. The issue was that you would die and respawn at the exact same location over and over and over again. It wasn't that way in Call of Duty 4, and it hasn't been the same since. I don't know what the issue was, but when you spawn at a position once or twice and get immediately cut down, the game needs to understand that something's wrong there, and move you some place different.
And, yeah: MP40 drum mags / Juggernaut isn't exactly a little problem, either.
I will say, however, that the single player campaign in World at War was excellent. Really top-notch. Progressing through it on Veteran was a bitch (because Treyarch was still near-infinite respawns and grenade spam tactic for the AI), but the story and the characters are pretty well done. Even if you don't play the multiplayer (and I don't suggest you do, really, because it's shit), the single player is worth the price of admission.
Also, original nazi zombies.
I appreciate this is just the way I'm wired, but I wish they'd put in a zombies mode in the next Treyarch CoD that had a defined way to 'Win'.
All you small children and your non-hardcore modes.
Beating the damn E-eggs is like winning. Shangri-la took so damn long.
But it loses its thread
Don't worry. You'll have it back again in 16 days.
How did that sneak up so quick?
It's good to see you're coming around to Support man. It's gonna be balls to the walls.
EDIT: BALLS TO THE WALLS.
It really is going to be a completely different game, in a lot of ways.
Run Specialist.
Get to 8 kills, and unlock every perk.
Have your Support guy drop in Juggernaut Recon armour.
...
Profit?
I know that Juggernaut Recon armour gives you a pistol and a riot shield, but I don't see any reason why you couldn't just swap the pistol out for the first gun you find laying around. You could run around with the new gun, and have a fucking riot shield on your back. Juggernaut armour, along with every perk in the game. And, what the hell, throw Ballistic Vests on top of it for good measure.
Good fucking luck with that.
If it bleeds, we can kill it.
I agree wholeheartedly
I'm glad we agree.
and milk ducks, i dont think the support juggernaut has a pistol, i think its just a riot shield and the assault comes with an lmg and a pistol. and even if it does, somehow i doubt they'll let you pick up someone else's weapon. that would be a tad OP. but running specialist and picking up your friend's juggernaut sounds pretty awesome.
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Why are you using Stopping Power in Hardcore?
Seems like if you're playing with a group the easiest thing to do is have everyone create a class with stun/flash (if that works on jugs) and some sort of point n shoot rocket and just rocket rape him while he's stunned.
Edit: Anyone playing blops tonight?
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this might be true, but still. come on. (to be said in jimmy's voice from south park)
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ah, who am i kidding, it'll never go away regardless.
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Really, I will say the worse thing about quickscoping is you have a bunch of douchebags acting like idiots for their youtube montages.
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Unlike blops pre-patches.
And, by the way guys, quick scoping is 100% in blops.