The Nu DCU - TODAY WE MOURN OMAC... ALSO, SOME NEWS (pg. 59)

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  • Witch_Hunter_84Witch_Hunter_84 Registered User regular
    Cade wrote:
    Man, plot wise I kind like the idea of New Guardians, but the writing / art just bug the heck out of me :(.

    Question!
    Is Kyle a brand new GL in the new DC? I've seen some say that he was which means he missed.....well everything.
    No, he's still been around since Parallax fucked up Hal. The Green Lantern continuity is one of the things they're not touching in this reboot because it gave us such cool things like the Sinestro Corps War and Larfleeze.

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Yeah New Guardians just opens up with a flashback origin for Kyle, which was a good move since new people might be confused by 4 different Lanterns running around and why this one looks different from the one in Justice League

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    I had no DC comics this week, so I just bought Superman #1 on comixology. Shit Sandwich.

    I guess like parents I just don't understand, the first issue of Superman being in the present day, meaning telling stories that would be new, and it reuses two ongoing storylines from the Superman stories of the early 90's, one of which was brought back during Seagle's Superman run in 2003 before the deck got cleared for Jim Lee's arc. And there is such a clear hurp derp "it's Rupert Murdoch Faux News" and this ever present abloo abloo from Clark that I feel like he really hasn't grown up from where Morrison is supposedly writing him in Action Comics, which kind of worries me. I could kind of accept (but still disagree) with making Clark brash and headstrong in first starting out years ago. But in this issue he seems to not really mature, still having this sense of outrage that feels like a watered down Ollie Queen. Picking a fight with Lois with some childish remarks, some comment about writing an article about poor people being mistreated (that's going to get old really fast), it just wasn't a good story. And like I've mentioned before Superman's not a place for politics, especially when it's lacking in subtlety. And if they wanted to do something original with a new Daily Planet owner, Josiah Power would have been a really good person to head up this new conglomerate until they wanted to make him a meta.

    The art was ok, but I thought Merino did better work on JSA when his work looked much more like Pacheco's. Jimmy Olsen looked like Justin Bieber, and Lois looked about 10 years older than Clark.

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Superman was just complete garbage

    I honestly gave up halfway through the issue because it was a chore to read.

    Some dude looked up how many word bubbles/captions there were and it was 360something

    he compared it to a Superman comic printed in 1975. 270 something.

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  • Witch_Hunter_84Witch_Hunter_84 Registered User regular
    TexiKen wrote:
    DC is conducting Nielson surveys about the reboot, and seemed to piss off longtime fan Patton Oswalt. I guess you could say welcome to the surveying week hyuck hyuck.

    If you want to do the survey here it is.

    pfft, he'll be back.

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Also I find it funny that Perez wrote Superman

    I own Peter David's guide to writing comics and Perez is quoted in it basically saying David is dead on about everything and a good teacher to learn from

    then he goes and breaks pretty much every rule from the book

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  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    Justice League Dark was cool, but it didn't introduce all of the characters and I wanted to see the combined magicks of the group in this issue. It was plenty enjoyable, and the art is beautiful and amazing. I did also like Cyborg essentially saying to Superman, "Hey, heads up. Magic can fuck you up." And it does. Anyway, I was filling out a pull list form and I had second thoughts about not getting Demon Knights and Animal Man. But I'm pretty comfortable now with this trade-waiting plan.

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    So The Dark Knight ends with Two-Face being hulked out ala Arkham Asylum and announcing he is now One-Face.

    Oh boy

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  • Futt BuckerFutt Bucker CTRegistered User regular
    Hm. Is it done in an awesomely bad way, or just a terribly bad way?

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Terribly

    why

    why would you think it would be awesome

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  • Futt BuckerFutt Bucker CTRegistered User regular
    I...

    I don't know :cry:

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  • Witch_Hunter_84Witch_Hunter_84 Registered User regular
    It's okay Futt. We were all let down here.

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    I'm digging I, Vampire a little bit. I'll give it another issue or two to see if it really grabs me because I don't usually care about Vampire stories

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    I really liked I, Vampire

    it was really moody and great and managed to sell Vampires as a serious threat in a world with dudes like Superman.

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  • Super NamicchiSuper Namicchi Orange County, CARegistered User regular
    i think it's pretty awesome that both wonder woman and aquaman are getting some really quality work on their books

    like, wow, i loved the hell out of aquaman

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Yeah the whole JL line-up, minus Cyborg so far, all have good-to-fantastic solo books to go to which is a brilliant move when you are pushing Justice League as the flagship.

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  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    edited September 2011
    I just realized that I was so focused on the comics I wanted that I don't think I saw a copy of All-Star Western at either store I visited. I had to go to my main store for JL Dark because the first store was sold out by 2 PM. I wonder if that happened to ASW, too.

    Hulked-out Two Face could have been awesome because it just could have. Just needs a good writer.

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  • AriviaArivia I Like A Challenge Earth-1Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote:
    So The Dark Knight ends with Two-Face being hulked out ala Arkham Asylum and announcing he is now One-Face.

    Oh boy

    I didn't get that part. I was like, "but you still have the two faces! and you flipped a coin and everything!" or why that random girl in a bunny suit showed up. Or why Batman knew to look for Two-Face in the first place.

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    I just realized that I was so focused on the comics I wanted that I don't think I saw a copy of All-Star Western at either store I visited.
    All-Star was apparently the first book to sell out at my shop, I didn't get a copy.

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  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    That's good to know.

  • JaythreefJaythreef Registered User regular
    I've only read Flash, Superman, and Aquaman so far, and I'm not really reading anything in the thread until I get the rest of my comics on Friday, but--

    Sometimes, I'll be watching a scene in a movie or TV show or something, and when it's over, I realize I've been grinning like an idiot the whole time.

    That happened while I was reading Aquaman.

  • mrmrmrmr nameless protagonist Registered User regular
    Grabbed Titans, New Guardians, Flash, JLDark, and Superman. I've only gotten to Titans and I liked it. Something about the art was wierd to me, but I can't put my finger on it. It wasn't even bad, it was just noticably, namelessly, wierd to me.

    But I'm crazy so

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    I loved Aquaman

    and Flash

    goddamn is Manapul an amazing artist

  • Doctor DetroitDoctor Detroit Not a doctor Tree townRegistered User regular
    Interesting piece on Newsarama
    http://www.newsarama.com/comics/hey-thats-my-cape-catwoman-starfire-110928.html

    A couple of relevant points:
    1) If one of the stated goals of the relaunch is to get new readers, then why are certain comics inappropriate for all audiences? Wouldn't comics that everyone can read be the best way to increase readership?
    2) If DC wanted Babs to be Batgirl because she's the most iconic version, then why isn't Dick Grayson Robin?

    Things to think about.

  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    edited September 2011
    That Aquaman panel where he tells the waitress to use the coins to put her kids through college seems off. His expression doesn't seem to match what he's saying because to me he looks kind of pissed. She also looks pretty young for having two kids in college.

    I don't know. I did fill out that Nielsen survey, though. It took a while (distracted and I was verbose in the essay portion), but it was worth it. I recommend it.

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  • nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    That Aquaman panel where he tells the waitress to use the coins to put her kids through college seems off. His expression doesn't seem to match what he's saying because to me he looks kind of pissed. She also looks pretty young for having two kids in college.

    I don't know. I did fill out that Nielsen survey, though. It took a while (distracted and I was verbose in the essay portion), but it was worth it. I recommend it.
    I tried. It stopped me at that typing part to see if I was a robot. I guess it decided I was because after typing in the number several times and being told they were wrong it told me the survey was for me.

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  • MatevMatev Cero Miedo Registered User regular
    All Star Western looks like it's gonna be good stuff, glad I had that one on my list. JL Dark looks like it'll be interesting, it's my "Wait and see what develops" list.

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  • JaythreefJaythreef Registered User regular
    I got to the big list of titles and was like, "Snap, I pre-ordered everything. Let's see how fast I can click through all of them." So I accidentally said that I bought a book that doesn't exist.

  • OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
    edited September 2011
    Here's this week's (and possibly final) Where's Waldo appearances of the Crimson Woman.

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  • MastaPMastaP Registered User regular
    I...

    I kinda liked Hawkman.

  • LuxLux Registered User regular
    edited September 2011
    If I were the Hooded Lady, I'd be bored of watching Batman over and over again by now.

    One thing about these books is that nearly everyone is trying to build new villains, which is fine, but how many of them are going to stick around? I know it's common for writers to try and create new villains when they get on a book, but when they're launching a new universe with them, it seems like you would want to build some of the foundation on the icons.

    It doesn't help that a lot of them are faceless armies. The Parademons, The Reach, The Trench, whatever's happening in Stormwatch, the monster army in Frankenstein are all making a move on Earth and its citizens right now. Maybe the continuity doesn't line up simultaneously, but it's weird reading variations on the same theme.

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  • TairuTairu Registered User regular
    Superman was hard to get into, but when I did I really appreciated the sheer density of it. I didn't like the fight scene being narrated by Clark Kent's article- not because of the idea, but because of the writing itself. It made Clark sound like... well, a comic book writer from the 80's.

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Lux wrote:
    If I were the Hooded Lady, I'd be bored of watching Batman over and over again by now.

    One thing about these books is that nearly everyone is trying to build new villains, which is fine, but how many of them are going to stick around? I know it's common for writers to try and create new villains when they get on a book, but when they're launching a new universe with them, it seems like you would want to build some of the foundation on the icons.

    It doesn't help that a lot of them are faceless armies. The Parademons, The Reach, The Trench, whatever's happening in Stormwatch, the monster army in Frankenstein are all making a move on Earth and its citizens right now. Maybe the continuity doesn't line up simultaneously, but it's weird reading variations on the same theme.
    The Reach aren't new, they've been around for a few years and were even used in Brave and the Bold.

    And I don't think the Trench will be a generic evil monster race. I think at first they will be evil and scary but it seems like they have lived so deep in the ocean that even Arthur didn't know about them and now that they discovered there is something up there they will have to be taught what is and is not okay to eat.

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  • GankGank Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote:
    I just realized that I was so focused on the comics I wanted that I don't think I saw a copy of All-Star Western at either store I visited.
    All-Star was apparently the first book to sell out at my shop, I didn't get a copy.

    Managed to pick up way more than intended this week. Collected last weeks haul at the same time and a few extra goodies, like All Star Western, which I am really glad I got.
    Jonah is teamed up with Dr Amadeus Arkham in a kind of odd couple situation with a RDJ-Sherlock-Holmes kinda vibe to it. Victorian Gotham with a secret crime society and some brutal Jack the Ripper-esque killings to solve. And the art was gritty and sepia tone-ish without getting too messy.

    I will definitely be getting the next issue.

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  • Caveman PawsCaveman Paws Registered User regular
    edited September 2011
    That Aquaman panel where he tells the waitress to use the coins to put her kids through college seems off. His expression doesn't seem to match what he's saying because to me he looks kind of pissed. She also looks pretty young for having two kids in college.

    I don't know. I did fill out that Nielsen survey, though. It took a while (distracted and I was verbose in the essay portion), but it was worth it. I recommend it.

    It's aimed at Americans (no Canada option for location). So I didn't bother, I don't count up here. *sniff*

    Also I doubt they will look at the individual question results, just look at how many surveys are completed and conclude that the reboot was a success because "wow look at that reaction!" I'm such a cynical sod.

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  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    edited September 2011
    @Gank Ooooh. I kind of miss Jonah Hex and I stopped reading it just after the Darwyn Cooke -drawn #50. Then again, I just said to the clerk I am waiting for the rest of The Rocketeer because it's $4. I'll see. Definitely seems like something to consider as a trade in six months.

    @Caveman Paws It's sending (some of) the response to DC and some to my store. So either way I had my say on a bunch of stuff and if they don't read it then it kind of proves the point I made in the last essay anyway. I don't regret it.

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  • MastaPMastaP Registered User regular
    edited September 2011
    oh

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  • ZeromusZeromus Registered User regular
    Tairu wrote:
    Superman was hard to get into, but when I did I really appreciated the sheer density of it. I didn't like the fight scene being narrated by Clark Kent's article- not because of the idea, but because of the writing itself. It made Clark sound like... well, a comic book writer from the 80's.

    I haven't read Superman yet, but George Perez's Wonder Woman is dense as fuck and still fantastic. I think it's a stylistic thing that's gone out of vogue in recent comics.

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    I don't mind dense

    dense can be good

    but Perez's Superman is just terrible. It reads like what a middle schooler thinks a good writer sounds like.

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    edited September 2011
    Okay my top 10 DCnU titles, in no particular order:

    Aquaman - Just a perfect example of a fun, humorous and rock-solid take on a longtime B-Lister.
    Batman - Everything I want in a Batman book with great art and perfect balance of grim crime and dark humor.
    Action Comics - A modern Superman origin that is both fresh and exciting, taking inspiration from a typically forgotten era.
    Animal Man - Down-to-earth heartwarming family dynamics balanced with atmospheric, eerie horror.
    Swamp Thing - Fantastic prose, beautiful art and building the foundation for a brave new world that Swamp Thing fits right in.
    Resurrection Man - A return to form for one of my favorite characters, now with a more supernatural/horror vibe.
    Demon Knights - A fun ensemble book with great characters in a unique and an exotic setting.
    Wonder Woman - Managed to make me interested in Wonder Woman, downright mythic while still modern.
    I, Vampire - The most straight-up horror book of the line, while still entrenched in the DCU. A pretty great take on a vampire threat.
    The Flash - Fun and clean, while still playing it fairly safe. Barry's nerdy side gives him some needed character and Manapul kills it on art.

    By and large The Dark line was the clear winner. Every single book, except Voodoo, was pretty damn great.

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