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University Student Club/Jounral Advice

TheNomadicCircleTheNomadicCircle Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
edited September 2011 in Help / Advice Forum
I'm in my 2nd year Central Asian History Undergrad at my University and I joined the "Official" undergrad history union primarily for their journal which they just stated since I was interested in sumbitting work for it. It soon became clear however that:

a)Editors who sit on the board (which I am) get to give their articles last and may not get chosen. Which made me wonder why did I join in the first place.

and

B)I learnt as I talked with the main guy running this journal that he's a complete moron whose head is up so much that he doesn't even notice it. I have classes most of the days except on Friday and he sets a schedule for meeting with Grad students and Professors (which when I asked he won't tell me and didn't give me any indication he'd give me an answer) right in the middle of classes. I do not want to leave any of my classes since I actually enjoy them. So I told him the meeting would be inconvenient for me. He gets angry and says how he is trying to set it up and needs the confidence of both these groups (Professors and Grad Students). I went fine, whatever you say I can't be there. And that's the last I've heard from him.

So in light of this, I went to the Student Union, explained that I wanted to start my own journal/newspaper along with a club focusing on current and historical Central Asia and they approved it and gave me a small sum to run it. I do not have an issue with getting new members as I know a couple of Uzbeks, Tajiks and Kazakhs who I've already talked to and they are willing to contribute to the journal and help join the club. In total including myself we are 15 people.

However, would it be a bad move to ask the Historical undergrad union to help with me with the journal and somehow sponsor two of them instead of just one or would you think it would step on the other guy's toes whose running this journal? I don't really want to fight verbally, but I'd like to get that "official undergrad union" approval. I personally think that working with him would be a lost cause, but I'd be willing if it just got me that "official" status.

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited September 2011
    So, because his schedule doesn't match with yours (an undergrad who he needs basically nothing from), he's a moron? I think you have more of an issue than he does.

    You don't sound like you actually care about the other guy (and from reading your other topics and posts you've never really acted like you give a shit about what anyone else thinks anyway), so go ahead and ask. I bet if you'd try, things wouldn't be as bad as you think they're going to be.

    If you want something that's not going to directly or indirectly harm anyone, go for it.

    Esh on
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    First, "editors give their articles last" is a perfectly reasonable policy. You guys are supposed to assemble the journal, not just publish all your own stuff. Undergraduate journals can have a tough time getting people to submit, and if the culture is "editors just publish their own stuff" people are even less likely to send in papers.

    In terms of scheduling things, getting a meeting time for a lowly undergraduate journal that works for grad students and professors is a huge coup and the main guy was completely right to schedule it whenever he could, even if it happens to be during a time you have class, which appears to be almost all the time every day except Friday.

    Under typical circumstances I would say that the answer to your question is, no, it's perfectly fine to ask the Historical undergrad union to sponsor another journal, but I'm inclined to agree with Esh that you seem to lack empathy and jump straight to conflict, so if even you are getting the sense that this is going to lead to the fight, any reasonable person would probably also see it like that, so I would hold off until your journal has been around for a semester or two before asking for official approval.

  • Omnicron9999Omnicron9999 Registered User regular
    There is already an official journal in place with the same or similar subject matter as the one youre starting, with, it sounds like, the support of students and faculty. Going off on your own, without a really good reason, is going to look bad. You're likely to step on toes, and just generally make yourself look uncooperative.

  • Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    Why don't you find a nice professor and get your paper submitted to a professional journal instead?

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  • RichyRichy Registered User regular
    I don't know about your university specifically, but most universities also have a campus-wide student paper. You could try to join that one instead of the History Union student paper.

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