I think the only way this ends with Walt having poisoned Brock is if the finale jumps back in time and shows us everything from Walt's perspective that we missed. It is just too big of an event to miss and would be too illogical without us watching the whole thing unfurl. This might not be so out of the realm of possibility, given the show's love for occasional chronological fuckery when it comes to storytelling
It was an off-shoot of the whole "Jesse is in hiding" subplot that had been set up previously, and started off with something that seemed to be completely unrelated - Combo being killed (my memory could be off). Then the whole Gale thing, which had been running for some time (though my memory is a bit hazy as to when Gale was introduced as a character).
For a TV show, Breaking Bad sets things up so far in advance, that it always seems like something entirely insignificant at the time, but has huge repercussions. That's why I love this show.
Stupid question, but remember the "737" "Down" "Over" "ABQ" episodes in Season 2? In those intros... it showed the busted up Aztec in the driveway... and two bodies in body bags next to it. Who were they? Was that ever explained?
Or was that entire scene just something that happened between seasons 2 and 3... just cleanup of bodies that fell from the plane, perhaps?
Stupid question, but remember the "737" "Down" "Over" "ABQ" episodes in Season 2? In those intros... it showed the busted up Aztec in the driveway... and two bodies in body bags next to it. Who were they? Was that ever explained?
Or was that entire scene just something that happened between seasons 2 and 3... just cleanup of bodies that fell from the plane, perhaps?
I refuse to watch any videos or read any thing about Breaking Bad episodes I haven't seen yet. One of the few things I am in total spoiler blackout for. Even if it's something benign or not substantial at all, I don't care. A huge part of this show for me is the complete shock of each scene.
can someone spoiler-transcribe what happens in that video
I can't access it at work
The video shows Walt giving Brock poison, then having sex with Jesse's girl while "i wish i was jesse's girl" plays in the background.
Also, Gus kills Hank, Walt Jr, Saul, Mike, Skyler, and Marie with his bare hands. Punch punch punch punch punch strangle.
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can someone spoiler-transcribe what happens in that video
I can't access it at work
Walt runs up to Gus' car, dives under it and carefully disarms the bomb. He pulls it off, and stashes it in a bag. He walks through the hospital - the bomb gets magnetically caught on an elevator door. He yanks it off, then sits next to Jesse.
Not much. ;D
EDIT: totally unrelated thing from Season 3, remember this?
Walt: "Maybe he thought it was you who gave the order."
Gus: "Are you asking me if I ordered the murder of a child?"
Walt "I would never ask you that."
Heyooo
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can someone spoiler-transcribe what happens in that video
I can't access it at work
The video shows Walt giving Brock poison, then having sex with Jesse's girl while "i wish i was jesse's girl" plays in the background.
Also, Gus kills Hank, Walt Jr, Saul, Mike, Skyler, and Marie with his bare hands. Punch punch punch punch punch strangle.
What about Holly? He said he was going to kill Holly, too.
There's a good interview with Bryan Cranston up on WTF with Marc Maron. Great hearing Maron geek out over this show.
As a warning, Cranston drops some kind of spoilery hints about the finale near the end of the interview. It's vague, but he still describes the last scene a bit.
can someone spoiler-transcribe what happens in that video
I can't access it at work
The video shows Walt giving Brock poison, then having sex with Jesse's girl while "i wish i was jesse's girl" plays in the background.
Also, Gus kills Hank, Walt Jr, Saul, Mike, Skyler, and Marie with his bare hands. Punch punch punch punch punch strangle.
What about Holly? He said he was going to kill Holly, too.
There's a good interview with Bryan Cranston up on WTF with Marc Maron. Great hearing Maron geek out over this show.
As a warning, Cranston drops some kind of spoilery hints about the finale near the end of the interview. It's vague, but he still describes the last scene a bit.
I really like the interview he did with Chris Hardwick on the Nerdist Podcast.
Gotta have some Brian Cranston Dick Grapes™.
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It blows my mind how different from Gus Giancarlo Esposito is in an interview.
I mean, it's not like Bryan Cranston is a lot like Walt, either. But seeing Giancarlo Esposito in an interview is like looking at and listening to a complete stranger. My mind futilely tries to gap the disparity by simply making me very uncomfortable until I stop watching.
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Has everyone seen that "leaked" image?
I laughed. I loved.
And now I am actually entertaining the notion it might somehow be real.
Yep. I'm at the point that shit like that can convince me. Hurry up Series Finale. HURRY.
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Walt and Gus reconcile their differences just in time to escort one another to the Batman convention.
I re-watched the last two episodes and everything fits.
The first time around, I was convinced Gus was guilty, but one thing bothered me. Why would he go to Jesse in person just to pretend he didn't know anything about the poison? Gus isn't very talkative (see Box Cutter) but he's usually straight and to the point, he doesn't lie or bullshit around. Even when he was interrogated by the DEA, it felt like he wasn't lying as much as he was just omitting details, like when he said he was discussing "business" with Gale, but he didn't say what kind of business.
Assuming he had poisoned Brock, his behavior seemed out of character. On the other hand, we never see Walt leaving his house, but to set all of this up he didn't have to. All he needed to do is give Saul a phone call, give him instructions and then wait for Jesse. We've seen Walt go to extremes when he's been cornered before, but this takes the fucking cake.
I re-watched the last two episodes and everything fits.
The first time around, I was convinced Gus was guilty, but one thing bothered me. Why would he go to Jesse in person just to pretend he didn't know anything about the poison? Gus isn't very talkative (see Box Cutter) but he's usually straight and to the point, he doesn't lie or bullshit around. Even when he was interrogated by the DEA, it felt like he wasn't lying as much as he was just omitting details, like when he said he was discussing "business" with Gale, but he didn't say what kind of business.
Assuming he had poisoned Brock, his behavior seemed out of character. On the other hand, we never see Walt leaving his house, but to set all of this up he didn't have to. All he needed to do is give Saul a phone call, give him instructions and then wait for Jesse. We've seen Walt go to extremes when he's been cornered before, but this takes the fucking cake.
What is Saul's motivation, though? He's always looking out for himself and is usually reluctant to do just about anything. What's Walt's leverage to convince him to poison Brock? Money? Walt doesn't have much, and the little he does have is in the house. I don't see Saul doing something so dangerous and illegal as to poison a child without at the very least being paid upfront, and I find it less likely that he would pay a housecall to someone who is marked for death.
Also, it's already been pointed out that Saul's limited involvement with Brock and Andrea was due to Jesse not wanting to see them. That situation is already resolved.
I re-watched the last two episodes and everything fits.
The first time around, I was convinced Gus was guilty, but one thing bothered me. Why would he go to Jesse in person just to pretend he didn't know anything about the poison? Gus isn't very talkative (see Box Cutter) but he's usually straight and to the point, he doesn't lie or bullshit around. Even when he was interrogated by the DEA, it felt like he wasn't lying as much as he was just omitting details, like when he said he was discussing "business" with Gale, but he didn't say what kind of business.
Assuming he had poisoned Brock, his behavior seemed out of character. On the other hand, we never see Walt leaving his house, but to set all of this up he didn't have to. All he needed to do is give Saul a phone call, give him instructions and then wait for Jesse. We've seen Walt go to extremes when he's been cornered before, but this takes the fucking cake.
What is Saul's motivation, though? He's always looking out for himself and is usually reluctant to do just about anything. What's Walt's leverage to convince him to poison Brock? Money? Walt doesn't have much, and the little he does have is in the house. I don't see Saul doing something so dangerous and illegal as to poison a child without at the very least being paid upfront, and I find it less likely that he would pay a housecall to someone who is marked for death.
Also, it's already been pointed out that Saul's limited involvement with Brock and Andrea was due to Jesse not wanting to see them. That situation is already resolved.
I think Saul is motivated by the idea that he'll earn more money by keeping both Jesse and Walt cooking. That's all I could possibly see. Saul wouldn't get killed by Gus, since he plays both sides.
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I re-watched the last two episodes and everything fits.
The first time around, I was convinced Gus was guilty, but one thing bothered me. Why would he go to Jesse in person just to pretend he didn't know anything about the poison? Gus isn't very talkative (see Box Cutter) but he's usually straight and to the point, he doesn't lie or bullshit around. Even when he was interrogated by the DEA, it felt like he wasn't lying as much as he was just omitting details, like when he said he was discussing "business" with Gale, but he didn't say what kind of business.
Assuming he had poisoned Brock, his behavior seemed out of character. On the other hand, we never see Walt leaving his house, but to set all of this up he didn't have to. All he needed to do is give Saul a phone call, give him instructions and then wait for Jesse. We've seen Walt go to extremes when he's been cornered before, but this takes the fucking cake.
What is Saul's motivation, though? He's always looking out for himself and is usually reluctant to do just about anything. What's Walt's leverage to convince him to poison Brock? Money? Walt doesn't have much, and the little he does have is in the house. I don't see Saul doing something so dangerous and illegal as to poison a child without at the very least being paid upfront, and I find it less likely that he would pay a housecall to someone who is marked for death.
Also, it's already been pointed out that Saul's limited involvement with Brock and Andrea was due to Jesse not wanting to see them. That situation is already resolved.
I think Saul is motivated by the idea that he'll earn more money by keeping both Jesse and Walt cooking. That's all I could possibly see. Saul wouldn't get killed by Gus, since he plays both sides.
Saul was afraid of getting killed by Gus no more than an episode or two ago. It's not hard to imagine Walt using that fear to get him to help take Gus out.
We also don't know for sure that Brock is fatally poisoned. Walt is a genius chemist. He could have done anything, and the effects could very well be temporary.
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Ugh, half a week to go to find out for sure.
Skimming this thread (avoiding the spoilers, thank you), it looks like I'm in for quite a ride!
Oh shit.
You have no idea.
It just seems too convoluted for this show.
I'm just going to keep believing all well-presented theories simultaneously until sunday night.
it was me
I did it
IIRC, most of what we actually saw with
For a TV show, Breaking Bad sets things up so far in advance, that it always seems like something entirely insignificant at the time, but has huge repercussions. That's why I love this show.
Yes
Yeah pretty much.
except for that one
You both pass my course.
That was like a big cock tease i swear to god!!!
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I can't access it at work
Also, Gus kills Hank, Walt Jr, Saul, Mike, Skyler, and Marie with his bare hands. Punch punch punch punch punch strangle.
Not much. ;D
EDIT: totally unrelated thing from Season 3, remember this?
Gus: "Are you asking me if I ordered the murder of a child?"
Walt "I would never ask you that."
Heyooo
What about Holly? He said he was going to kill Holly, too.
@Dark_Raven_X thanks
As a warning, Cranston drops some kind of spoilery hints about the finale near the end of the interview. It's vague, but he still describes the last scene a bit.
we're assumin' she dies of grief
I really like the interview he did with Chris Hardwick on the Nerdist Podcast.
Gotta have some Brian Cranston Dick Grapes™.
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I mean, it's not like Bryan Cranston is a lot like Walt, either. But seeing Giancarlo Esposito in an interview is like looking at and listening to a complete stranger. My mind futilely tries to gap the disparity by simply making me very uncomfortable until I stop watching.
I laughed. I loved.
And now I am actually entertaining the notion it might somehow be real.
Yep. I'm at the point that shit like that can convince me. Hurry up Series Finale. HURRY.
Well fuck me
The first time around, I was convinced Gus was guilty, but one thing bothered me. Why would he go to Jesse in person just to pretend he didn't know anything about the poison? Gus isn't very talkative (see Box Cutter) but he's usually straight and to the point, he doesn't lie or bullshit around. Even when he was interrogated by the DEA, it felt like he wasn't lying as much as he was just omitting details, like when he said he was discussing "business" with Gale, but he didn't say what kind of business.
Assuming he had poisoned Brock, his behavior seemed out of character. On the other hand, we never see Walt leaving his house, but to set all of this up he didn't have to. All he needed to do is give Saul a phone call, give him instructions and then wait for Jesse. We've seen Walt go to extremes when he's been cornered before, but this takes the fucking cake.
Hey how about I show up in public to see a known meth dealer while the DEA thinks I run a meth lab!!!!
Also, it's already been pointed out that Saul's limited involvement with Brock and Andrea was due to Jesse not wanting to see them. That situation is already resolved.
We also don't know for sure that Brock is fatally poisoned. Walt is a genius chemist. He could have done anything, and the effects could very well be temporary.