As was foretold, we've added advertisements to the forums! If you have questions, or if you encounter any bugs, please visit this thread: https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/240191/forum-advertisement-faq-and-reports-thread/
Options

Breaking Bad

19293959798100

Posts

  • Options
    GreasyKidsStuffGreasyKidsStuff MOMMM! ROAST BEEF WANTS TO KISS GIRLS ON THE TITTIES!Registered User regular
    I got my dad season 1 on bluray for Christmas, watching it with him made me want to watch the rest all over again. It also got my brain turning over and over, thinking about what we have in store next summer (so fucking far away). Here are some thoughts I've pondered:
    I kinda see Breaking Bad as the tragedy of Walter White; the story of a man who goes through a rise and fall very typical of archetypal tragic characters, ie. Brutus, Macbeth, any Shakespeare protagonist really... so with that in mind, one of the most important parts of the fall is the humbling of the protagonist, the moment when he realizes the mistakes he's made, and must be punished for it. I've been thinking that Walt must go through this for the series to end on a resonant note. He can't die the cackling Heisenberg, but I'm not sure I want him to revert completely to pre-cancer Walt. I read an interesting take on the season 5 flashforward to grizzled Walt that described him as a 'third Walt', something between Walt and Heisenberg; I found this intriguing, and I think it is supported by what we already saw in that flashforward... but back to the humbling moment. I think I want to see Hank take Walt down, but I also want it to come about as a result of Jesse's betrayal. We know their relationship is on rocky ground. And the last episode of 5A kinda seems to set them apart finally, but there needs to be something that draws them together again, whatever that may be. And then, I think, something needs to happen that finally, utterly and completely pushes Jesse from Walt; only at this point, I believe, will Walt realize the immensity of his actions, and by then it would be too late. He's done, and Hank gets his victory.

    I went off on a bit of a ramble and I may have lost the plot a bit but I've had a lot of time to mull things over. Thoughts?
    I agree that Walt has to have some sort of humbling realization, but I think it's probably going to be caused by something bad happening to one or both of his kids. Throughout the entire series Walt's been clinging to the justification that he's just doing this for his family; even when it became obvious that he was making things worse for them, he managed to blame all of their problems on Skyler. If something tragic were to happen to his kids that was unquestionably a direct result of his actions, it would destroy his only justification and he'd have to accept that he was just a selfish asshole. This could also explain the flashforward: something bad goes down, Walt goes into hiding, someone (maybe the Phoenix gang or the cartel) strikes out at his family, and Walt comes back looking for revenge.

    But I also agree that a final confrontation between Walt and Jesse is necessary.

    I've read other speculation that suggests...
    Walt will do something to fulfill his promise that Skyler will love him again (was that in season 5 that he said she'd like him again someday?), which then leads into further speculation he'll turn himself in to aid the authorities in some manner. However, I cannot see Skyler coming around to seeing Walt in an entirely positive light again if something happened to either kid, so who the hell knows?

    Whatever happens, I'm certain there is going to be a final confrontation with either Jesse or Hank and neither scenario is going to end well for any of the involved parties.

  • Options
    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Season 4 Episode 10, 10 minutes in.
    HOLY SHIT JESSE HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT THE BALLS ON THIS MAN THE CAJONES

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • Options
    PharezonPharezon Struggle is an illusion. Victory is in the Qun.Registered User regular
    Salud is my favorite Season 4 episode.

    jkZziGc.png
  • Options
    AvrahamAvraham Registered User regular
    Never bet against Jesse.

    :bz: :bz: :bzz:
  • Options
    YaYaYaYa Decent. Registered User regular
    can't wait till Munkus gets to Face Off

  • Options
    Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    Jesse on his road trip was the best.

  • Options
    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    Seeing Walt get so overtly villainous and terrible and undeniably despicable to Skylar was one of the most gratifying parts of seasons 4/5, in that it finally made the "Skylar's a bitch" camp finally examine the nonsense they'd been spewin' for three seasons.

  • Options
    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Don't spoil shit for me man!

    Time to start Season 4 Episode 11.

    Episode 10 was...
    Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn.

    Knew it was poison.

    But daaaaaaaaaaaamn Jesse was straight stone cold throughout.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • Options
    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    edited January 2013
    If "Walt is terrible" is a spoiler, then so is "There are thirteen episodes per season"

    Poorochondriac on
  • Options
    YaYaYaYa Decent. Registered User regular
    hey @Poorochondriac

    I just saw Citizen Kane for this article series I'm writing

    you

    wanna talk Citizen Kane?

  • Options
    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    YaYa wrote: »
    hey @Poorochondriac

    I just saw Citizen Kane for this article series I'm writing

    you

    wanna talk Citizen Kane?

    There ain't nothing I could say about it that hasn't been covered by other better, smarter critics, but I love it. Favorite parts:

    -That montage of the marriage falling apart, which is smarter and a better use of the medium than basically anything in the, what, seventy years since?
    -The fantastic use of deep focus/shadow/camera moves, which are even more impressive when you consider the tech they were working with at the time
    -The central theme that man is essentially unknowable, even when you have access to the events and people around him, was so far ahead of its time (in cinema, anyway) that it makes the continued existence of the bio-pic genre look sillier and sillier with each passing decade.

    Not so great:
    -The old-man makeup

  • Options
    YaYaYaYa Decent. Registered User regular
    YaYa wrote: »
    hey @Poorochondriac

    I just saw Citizen Kane for this article series I'm writing

    you

    wanna talk Citizen Kane?

    There ain't nothing I could say about it that hasn't been covered by other better, smarter critics, but I love it. Favorite parts:

    -That montage of the marriage falling apart, which is smarter and a better use of the medium than basically anything in the, what, seventy years since?
    -The fantastic use of deep focus/shadow/camera moves, which are even more impressive when you consider the tech they were working with at the time
    -The central theme that man is essentially unknowable, even when you have access to the events and people around him, was so far ahead of its time (in cinema, anyway) that it makes the continued existence of the bio-pic genre look sillier and sillier with each passing decade.

    Not so great:
    -The old-man makeup

    aww, I was actually impressed with some of the make-up! I didn't believe that Joseph Cotton played old Leland

    that montage was fucking mindblowing, and the deep focus and the way that they managed to actually make use of it so much was impressive, even though I knew that that was the thing about the movie

    I actually didn't have much of a clue about the structure and how the narrative unfolded, despite knowing the Rosebud stuff, I found it a really engaging narrative

    also, man, The Simpsons took a lot of stuff from that movie

  • Options
    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    fuck fuck fuck fuck fuckfckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuck

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • Options
    MarthMarth Registered User regular
    yeah that was crazy

    Steam PSN LoL: SadSchaub Battle.net: SadSchaub#1357
  • Options
    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    FUCK

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • Options
    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    EPISODE TWELVE

    LET'S GO!

    GOD DAMN!

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • Options
    TallahasseerielTallahasseeriel Registered User regular
    edited January 2013
    fuck fuck fuck fuck fuckfckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuck

    Wait till you get to the end.

    Tallahasseeriel on
  • Options
    PharezonPharezon Struggle is an illusion. Victory is in the Qun.Registered User regular
    YaYa wrote: »
    hey @Poorochondriac

    I just saw Citizen Kane for this article series I'm writing

    you

    wanna talk Citizen Kane?

    Watch The Third Man.

    jkZziGc.png
  • Options
    YaYaYaYa Decent. Registered User regular
    Pharezon wrote: »
    YaYa wrote: »
    hey @Poorochondriac

    I just saw Citizen Kane for this article series I'm writing

    you

    wanna talk Citizen Kane?

    Watch The Third Man.

    I intend to at some point

  • Options
    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    7 minutes in.
    Holy shit do I feel bad for Skylar.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • Options
    joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    My wife wanted to know the music from the end of Face Off so she could use it in her dance classes

    So I looked it up for her

    That's the end of that story

    It really is a good song though! Taalbi Brothers - Freestyle

  • Options
    YaYaYaYa Decent. Registered User regular
    I think the ending of Season 4 might have killed Munkus

  • Options
    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I'm on Face Off right now.

    Crawl Space was.

    Agape.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • Options
    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    The ending of Crawl Space is filmed exactly a horror movie, and I friggin' love that.

  • Options
    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Holy Jesus

    Holy Hell
    THE MUSIC IS PLAYING

    GUS IS WALKING IN

    Oh Jesus this is going to be big isn't it.

    Oh Jesus is that Walt standing there?

    Oh Jesus oh Jesus

    Ok no it's that other guy.

    OH FUCK OH FUCK OH FUCK

    OH JESUS FUCK

    Gus just walked out....

    GUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

    JESUS CHRIST WHAT THE HOLY SHIT

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • Options
    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    DEF LEOPARD?

    JESUS ARE YOU TRYING TO TORTURE THE PEOPLE AFTER TELLING THE ABOUT A TRAGEDY?

    GOD YOU ARE DICKS

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • Options
    AvrahamAvraham Registered User regular
    Season 5 is unbelievable but the season 4 finale is still the best single episode of the series. It is a masterpiece of pacing and tension and plotting.

    :bz: :bz: :bzz:
  • Options
    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    WAIT

    WAIT

    WAIT JUST A GOD DAMNED MINUTE
    HE DIDN'T

    HE FUCKING

    HOLY SHIT WHAT THE FUCK

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • Options
    Beef AvengerBeef Avenger Registered User regular
    edited January 2013
    Avraham wrote: »
    Season 5 is unbelievable but the season 4 finale is still the best single episode of the series. It is a masterpiece of pacing and tension and plotting.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjP3VlbIfDA

    (I wish i could find the actual clip of this)

    Beef Avenger on
    Steam ID
    PSN: Robo_Wizard1
  • Options
    MarthMarth Registered User regular
    Yeah

    Steam PSN LoL: SadSchaub Battle.net: SadSchaub#1357
  • Options
    NeoTomaNeoToma Registered User regular
    Yessssssss

  • Options
    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Quick question:
    What is the song that plays when Gus walks in for his final confrontation?

    And how the fuck is Gus the only honorable guy on this show other than Jesse?

    And then...
    WHAT THE FUCK WALT

    WHAT THE FLYING BLUE FUCK WALT

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • Options
    PharezonPharezon Struggle is an illusion. Victory is in the Qun.Registered User regular
    WAIT

    WAIT

    WAIT JUST A GOD DAMNED MINUTE
    HE DIDN'T

    HE FUCKING

    HOLY SHIT WHAT THE FUCK

    8g3E5.gif

    jkZziGc.png
  • Options
    TallahasseerielTallahasseeriel Registered User regular
    Quick question:
    What is the song that plays when Gus walks in for his final confrontation?

    And how the fuck is Gus the only honorable guy on this show other than Jesse?

    And then...
    WHAT THE FUCK WALT

    WHAT THE FLYING BLUE FUCK WALT
    We are born when we die by Apollo sunshine.

  • Options
    Beef AvengerBeef Avenger Registered User regular
    edited January 2013
    Quick question:
    What is the song that plays when Gus walks in for his final confrontation?
    the one i linked in the spoiler just above this post

    Beef Avenger on
    Steam ID
    PSN: Robo_Wizard1
  • Options
    TallahasseerielTallahasseeriel Registered User regular
    OH wait, yeah I was thinking of a different part.

  • Options
    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I win.

    *collapses*

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • Options
    AvrahamAvraham Registered User regular
    season 4 finale speculation
    There's that scene in End Times or Crawl Space (?) where Jesse confronts Walt - and I was stumped. I absolutely could not decide if Walt was telling the truth because I couldn't believe that either Walt or Gus would murder a child.
    And for whatever reason I had to pause and do some errand. I came back to the show and Jesse had the gun to Walt's head, and I realized Walt's the one in complete control of this situation.
    I thought, would Walt be capable of killing a kid? No, I didn't think so. But...would Walt be capable of cooking up just the precise dose of poison to send a kid to the hospital without killing him. Shit, that sounds exactly like something Walt might do, the sneaky bastard.

    :bz: :bz: :bzz:
  • Options
    MaratastikMaratastik Just call me Mara, please! Registered User regular
    Face Off spoilers.
    The transformation of Hector's face when he finally looks at Gus from sad acceptance to murderous rage still gives me chills.

    CLANG CLANG CLANG CLANG CLANG CLANG

    AHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

  • Options
    LarlarLarlar consecutive normal brunches Moderator, ClubPA mod
    Avraham wrote: »
    Uriel wrote: »
    Balefuego wrote: »
    that is the best free space

    Better one would be
    Walt is a fucking monster
    Even when he's not going full Heisenberg he's such an amazing asshole

    Like when he takes the first dollar Bogden ever earned

    Pah, fuck Bogden. And his eyebrows.

    iwantanswers3.png
This discussion has been closed.