Or, perhaps, maybe as a consumer I would be able to purchase the product I want with the additions I want, without suffering because I happen to live on one continent rather than another?
No, that would simply be asking too much?
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NTSC and PAL are pretty old standards. They existed before videogames were even invented. Unless you are lamenting pre-order exclusives in general.
I'm sorry to say that it won't work. EB Games Australia will be selling you a PAL copy which won't work on NSTC North American machines
Depends if it's region-locked or not. Plenty of games released aren't region-locked, and you might get lucky. I asked on twitter, let's see if I get an answer.
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It's kind of confusing. Looking into it more there are the PAL and NTSC technologies, which are not compatible with each other, and there are also the PAL and NTSC regions. Even if a game or console are not region locked if the game is PAL you will still need a PAL television for it to display correctly, at least that is what I've been able to find out.
It's kind of confusing. Looking into it more there are the PAL and NTSC technologies, which are not compatible with each other, and there are also the PAL and NTSC regions. Even if a game or console are not region locked if the game is PAL you will still need a PAL television for it to display correctly, at least that is what I've been able to find out.
Except the display mode for pretty much any modern console newer than the PS2 is determined by the console itself, not the game.
It's kind of confusing. Looking into it more there are the PAL and NTSC technologies, which are not compatible with each other, and there are also the PAL and NTSC regions. Even if a game or console are not region locked if the game is PAL you will still need a PAL television for it to display correctly, at least that is what I've been able to find out.
Except the display mode for pretty much any modern console newer than the PS2 is determined by the console itself, not the game.
It's kind of confusing. Looking into it more there are the PAL and NTSC technologies, which are not compatible with each other, and there are also the PAL and NTSC regions. Even if a game or console are not region locked if the game is PAL you will still need a PAL television for it to display correctly, at least that is what I've been able to find out.
Except the display mode for pretty much any modern console newer than the PS2 is determined by the console itself, not the game.
It's kind of confusing. Looking into it more there are the PAL and NTSC technologies, which are not compatible with each other, and there are also the PAL and NTSC regions. Even if a game or console are not region locked if the game is PAL you will still need a PAL television for it to display correctly, at least that is what I've been able to find out.
Except the display mode for pretty much any modern console newer than the PS2 is determined by the console itself, not the game.
Can you switch a console from NTSC to PAL? As far as I was aware you needed to modify your console for that, at least for the Xbox.
No, but you don't NEED to change it if the game is region-free.
I am pretty sure there is a difference between NTSC and PAL as technologies and the NTSC and PAL shorthand used to refer to regions. A PAL game runs on a PAL console and is outputted to a PAL television. These aren't just regions, it's completely different standards for how the video works. I mean there are absolutely PAL and NTSC televisions. I've never heard of a region locked television. In this instance it's not referring to region locking, but rather the technology standard used to output video.
Edit: I mean, just Google this stuff. You'll find people talking about mod chips for their Xbox, you'll find Amazon selling NTSC and PAL consoles, separate machines for different standards, you'll find questions about what is required to run a PAL game on an NTSC console if it's possible at all.
Or, perhaps, maybe as a consumer I would be able to purchase the product I want with the additions I want, without suffering because I happen to live on one continent rather than another?
No, that would simply be asking too much?
That's something you gotta take up with the distributors, and whoever came up with the idea of "Region Locking" discs. But chances are you're gonna have to find a work-around for it... or just curse about how unfair life is.
Region locking and PAL/NTSC video encoding formats are two very different things. One is a bullshit move by publishers that only serves to fuck customers in the ass (yeah, kinda bitter...), the other is (almost) a purely technical issue.
If I wanted to get familiar with Saints Row 2, and be prepared for any coop that may ensue leading up to SR3, what options should I select in the Gentlemen of the Row mod?
It's kind of confusing. Looking into it more there are the PAL and NTSC technologies, which are not compatible with each other, and there are also the PAL and NTSC regions. Even if a game or console are not region locked if the game is PAL you will still need a PAL television for it to display correctly, at least that is what I've been able to find out.
Except the display mode for pretty much any modern console newer than the PS2 is determined by the console itself, not the game.
Can you switch a console from NTSC to PAL? As far as I was aware you needed to modify your console for that, at least for the Xbox.
No, but you don't NEED to change it if the game is region-free.
I am pretty sure there is a difference between NTSC and PAL as technologies and the NTSC and PAL shorthand used to refer to regions. A PAL game runs on a PAL console and is outputted to a PAL television. These aren't just regions, it's completely different standards for how the video works. I mean there are absolutely PAL and NTSC televisions. I've never heard of a region locked television. In this instance it's not referring to region locking, but rather the technology standard used to output video.
Edit: I mean, just Google this stuff. You'll find people talking about mod chips for their Xbox, you'll find Amazon selling NTSC and PAL consoles, separate machines for different standards, you'll find questions about what is required to run a PAL game on an NTSC console if it's possible at all.
Unfortunately, it isn't even that straightforward because, as far as I know, some consoles will scale properly to either a PAL or NTSC TV, and also I believe PAL/NTSC hybrid TVs are fairly common in Europe.
I think the original Xbox, for instance, would properly scale PAL games for an NTSC TV, but don't quote me on it.
These days PAL/NTSC are pretty much entirely in reference to region locking. You'd be hard put to find a modern TV that wouldn't happily play any output from any console.
Also, region locking issues notwithstanding, a PAL game WILL run on an NTSC TV but you will just get a display of rolling black and white lines. I think the primary difference is that PAL outputs somewhere around 50hz and NTSC around 60 hz. It will completely function, though...assuming the game or console isn't also region locked.
These days PAL/NTSC are pretty much entirely in reference to region locking. You'd be hard put to find a modern TV that wouldn't happily play any output from any console.
Is that true in the US now? I haven't looked into this since before HDTVs caught on but US TV manufacturers had shunned PAL for the most part.
These days PAL/NTSC are pretty much entirely in reference to region locking. You'd be hard put to find a modern TV that wouldn't happily play any output from any console.
Is that true in the US now? I haven't looked into this since before HDTVs caught on but US TV manufacturers had shunned PAL for the most part.
HDTV is exempt from the whole PAL/NTSC thing. If you have an HDTV, you no longer have to worry about that stuff.
If I wanted to get familiar with Saints Row 2, and be prepared for any coop that may ensue leading up to SR3, what options should I select in the Gentlemen of the Row mod?
Go with whatever sounds fun. That's the beauty of GotR. It's pretty much all coop compatible (assuming your partner is on the same release version) and you can simply build a new patch with different options if you end up not enjoying something. It won't affect your save file in any way.
If you're new to the series and want the smoothest experience possible, just build GotR with no optional mods selected other than stuff in the control menu like onscreen prompts. The base build is like 99% of everything anyway. The rest of the options are just fun flavor.
These days PAL/NTSC are pretty much entirely in reference to region locking. You'd be hard put to find a modern TV that wouldn't happily play any output from any console.
Is that true in the US now? I haven't looked into this since before HDTVs caught on but US TV manufacturers had shunned PAL for the most part.
HDTV is exempt from the whole PAL/NTSC thing. If you have an HDTV, you no longer have to worry about that stuff.
I figured as much...hadn't looked into it in awhile.
Definitely was not true in the era of standard definition TVs, even ones that would do 480p. In America. But standard definition PAL/NTSC hybrid TVs were common in Europe.
What about PC LCD monitors? I assume they also scale PAL or NTSC properly, right?
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I have just convinced my girlfriend that I need a collectors' edition of Saint's Row: The Third.
I want those fucking cufflinks only available at EB Games Australia.
If I order this game from EB Games Australia, will my Yankee North American XBOX 360 SLIM be able to play whatever nonsensical game they ship me?
I mean I'm willing to make her drop $130 for the game and cufflinks, but only if the game actually works?
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I'm sorry to say that it won't work. EB Games Australia will be selling you a PAL copy which won't work on NSTC North American machines
Or you could buy it, sell the game on Ebay yourself and keep the cufflinks.
No, that would simply be asking too much?
Depends if it's region-locked or not. Plenty of games released aren't region-locked, and you might get lucky. I asked on twitter, let's see if I get an answer.
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You get some really awesome stuff right away.
You can upgrade pretty much everything it seems
Except the display mode for pretty much any modern console newer than the PS2 is determined by the console itself, not the game.
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Can you switch a console from NTSC to PAL? As far as I was aware you needed to modify your console for that, at least for the Xbox.
No, but you don't NEED to change it if the game is region-free.
I am pretty sure there is a difference between NTSC and PAL as technologies and the NTSC and PAL shorthand used to refer to regions. A PAL game runs on a PAL console and is outputted to a PAL television. These aren't just regions, it's completely different standards for how the video works. I mean there are absolutely PAL and NTSC televisions. I've never heard of a region locked television. In this instance it's not referring to region locking, but rather the technology standard used to output video.
Edit: I mean, just Google this stuff. You'll find people talking about mod chips for their Xbox, you'll find Amazon selling NTSC and PAL consoles, separate machines for different standards, you'll find questions about what is required to run a PAL game on an NTSC console if it's possible at all.
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That's something you gotta take up with the distributors, and whoever came up with the idea of "Region Locking" discs. But chances are you're gonna have to find a work-around for it... or just curse about how unfair life is.
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Unfortunately, it isn't even that straightforward because, as far as I know, some consoles will scale properly to either a PAL or NTSC TV, and also I believe PAL/NTSC hybrid TVs are fairly common in Europe.
I think the original Xbox, for instance, would properly scale PAL games for an NTSC TV, but don't quote me on it.
Is that true in the US now? I haven't looked into this since before HDTVs caught on but US TV manufacturers had shunned PAL for the most part.
HDTV is exempt from the whole PAL/NTSC thing. If you have an HDTV, you no longer have to worry about that stuff.
Go with whatever sounds fun. That's the beauty of GotR. It's pretty much all coop compatible (assuming your partner is on the same release version) and you can simply build a new patch with different options if you end up not enjoying something. It won't affect your save file in any way.
If you're new to the series and want the smoothest experience possible, just build GotR with no optional mods selected other than stuff in the control menu like onscreen prompts. The base build is like 99% of everything anyway. The rest of the options are just fun flavor.
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I figured as much...hadn't looked into it in awhile.
Definitely was not true in the era of standard definition TVs, even ones that would do 480p. In America. But standard definition PAL/NTSC hybrid TVs were common in Europe.
What about PC LCD monitors? I assume they also scale PAL or NTSC properly, right?
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