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  • DemiurgeDemiurge Registered User regular
    I just played Janna for the first time. Wow, WOW.

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  • DarisDaris Registered User regular
    You're going to have to be more specific. She is an amazing support, but if you're supporting garbage... well...

  • XagarXagar Registered User regular
    Xtarath wrote:
    So guys what are some important tips to remember for playing Anivia? I have all of the runes(except for the slots not open to me), but I thin I heard that she had a kind of steep learning curve.

    I would say that probably you should try to avoid poking with her Q, as it's incredibly easy to dodge. She works best as a force multiplier with other stun or gap-closer champs. You should be looking for enemies to commit so you can reliably land a stun.

    Go mid. If you're getting pressured out of lane, max Q for easy farming from 1100 range. Otherwise, max E.

    To handle any sort of extended engagement where you expect to storm a lot, she needs either blue, some hefty mana regen like an Archangel's Staff, or be on Dominion.

    You might also want to consider leveling wall to 2 or 3 before Q, as level 1 wall kind of sucks, and higher levels of Q cost very, very large amounts of mana.

    I build her mana crystal+pots->catalyst->boots 1/boots 2/RoA->Deathcap->RoA/Abyssal/Hourglass/Void Staff/WotA. You can start with an early Tear to help her mana issues, but I get better results rushing a Deathcap.

  • kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    So far Jarvan seems great for running in circles while punching people in Dominion.

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  • RamiRami Registered User regular
    edited October 2011
    Pro Nasus build: Triforce, Bloodthirster, Infinity Edge, Bloodthirster, Gunblade.

    1800 damage crits. 95% lifesteal.

    Rami on
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  • nealcmnealcm Alvarian AlvarianRegistered User regular
    stack gunblades as nasus...

    why didn't i think of it before...

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  • RamiRami Registered User regular
    Also you gotta take blue buff from your stupid casters for the CD reduction and endless skill spam.

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  • Dac VinDac Vin S-s-screw you! I only listen to DOUBLE MUSIC! Registered User regular
    I got an awful idea:

    Gunblade on Ezreal.

    Be right there.

  • TalithTalith 変態という名の紳士 Miami, FLRegistered User regular
    Dac Vin wrote:
    I finally figured out hybrid Ezreal exists.

    Hi there.

    My one and only penta out of 2000 games played is on Hybrid Ezreal.

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  • 21stCentury21stCentury Call me Pixel, or Pix for short! [They/Them]Registered User regular
    Wondering aloud if I could pull off AP Leona... probably not, but AP + CDR on Leona... Sounds kinda neat in theory.

  • ArkadyArkady Registered User regular
    Rius wrote:
    I love Irelia on Dominion but I'm not sure rushing a Triforce is the way to go. Can anyone weigh in, maybe? I think she's my favorite champ for the mode so far.

    I still run triforce on dominion. I feel minorly shitty until I finish it but once I do it's all gravy.

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  • Alucard6986Alucard6986 xbox: Ubeltanzer swtor: UbelRegistered User regular
    Demiurge wrote:
    I just played Janna for the first time. Wow, WOW.
    Daris wrote:
    You're going to have to be more specific. She is an amazing support, but if you're supporting garbage... well...

    I think he's talking about her legs.

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  • Soviet WaffleSoviet Waffle Registered User regular
    Spectrum wrote:
    Bob doesn't seem that dynamic of a streamer. Or at least this game is boring as hell.

    edit: bloodrazor for faster barons/dragons?

    The secret to watching Guardsman Bob is knowing that he's not very good.

    he does however have the best music taste out of any of LoL stream, making him fun to watch

    but that's only cause you don't stream and play tunes from Third Strike all game every game

    I do stream and the thirdstrike soundtrack is on the playlist!

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  • DarisDaris Registered User regular
    Wondering aloud if I could pull off AP Leona... probably not, but AP + CDR on Leona... Sounds kinda neat in theory.

    Some of the guides on moba for her list some AP options. I haven't felt much like trying them out, but maybe you could give it a spin. Some people have sworn she is the highest dps tank... but they didn't strike me as being intelligent.

  • nealcmnealcm Alvarian AlvarianRegistered User regular
    gunbleona was one of my few failed gunblade rushing attempts

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  • surrealitychecksurrealitycheck lonely, but not unloved dreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered User regular
    ap leona doesn't really work

    i've done it a lot

    you can get away with a maokai style rod of ages + some dorans + abyssal type build if you get fed tho

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  • RaslinRaslin Registered User regular
    I've been gunblade yi on dominion. Wuju gunblades yo. yi.

    Its been alright.

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  • nealcmnealcm Alvarian AlvarianRegistered User regular
    man i can't believe i forgot about AP yi

    doing that on dominion

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  • Dac VinDac Vin S-s-screw you! I only listen to DOUBLE MUSIC! Registered User regular
    edited October 2011
    Gunblade Ezreal didn't work. At this point I'm not sure why I still care about this game after such an hellish weekend. To recap after right now: TWENTY FUCKING LOSSES and four wins. I know there's a lot of talk about "the only constant in your games is you", but for god sake it's fucking surreal, it's like my play heavily degraded after twelve hours of sleep plus I'm grabbing all the criminally insane people on my team and the enemy all gets the reincarnations of Doublelift. It does not make sense. It's fucking absurd. I should not lose games like this so why it fucking happens?

    edit: why build AP on Leona? Her ratios are pure concentrated shit, you're better off with a ton of CDR because her skills doesn't cost that much and becomes spammable.

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  • surrealitychecksurrealitycheck lonely, but not unloved dreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered User regular
    the motherfuckers act like they forgot about ap yi

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  • Dac VinDac Vin S-s-screw you! I only listen to DOUBLE MUSIC! Registered User regular
    edited October 2011
    AP Yi on my team is a goddamn nooblord, AP yi on THEIR team is HotShotGG and Reginald at the same time.

    No seriously the only time an AP yi ever worked on my team was when I did it. Same thing for dunk yi.

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  • kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    Talith wrote:
    Dac Vin wrote:
    I finally figured out hybrid Ezreal exists.

    Hi there.

    My one and only penta out of 2000 games played is on Hybrid Ezreal.

    I would hazard to guess this was kind of circumstantial and not really because hybrid is any good?

    I see so little value to it, the ratios are so bad.

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  • Dac VinDac Vin S-s-screw you! I only listen to DOUBLE MUSIC! Registered User regular
    edited October 2011
    Well I decided for an hybrid build because of unforeseen circumstances* or else I would have just went either AD or on-hit. Not sure if the last one can work.

    *Basically our AP thought it would be insanely funny to have a grand total of FOUR AD by switching from Veigar to Tristana.

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  • TalithTalith 変態という名の紳士 Miami, FLRegistered User regular
    kedinik wrote:
    Talith wrote:
    Dac Vin wrote:
    I finally figured out hybrid Ezreal exists.

    Hi there.

    My one and only penta out of 2000 games played is on Hybrid Ezreal.

    I would hazard to guess this was kind of circumstantial and not really because hybrid is any good?

    I see so little value to it, the ratios are so bad.

    Do you understand what makes a ratio good?

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    kedinik wrote:
    So far Jarvan seems great for running in circles while punching people in Dominion.

    Yeeees. It's what I did before I discovered Kayle.

  • kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    edited October 2011
    Talith wrote:
    kedinik wrote:
    Talith wrote:
    Dac Vin wrote:
    I finally figured out hybrid Ezreal exists.

    Hi there.

    My one and only penta out of 2000 games played is on Hybrid Ezreal.

    I would hazard to guess this was kind of circumstantial and not really because hybrid is any good?

    I see so little value to it, the ratios are so bad.

    Do you understand what makes a ratio good?

    There's no need for snark or condescension, I never pretended to be great at this game.

    They're just such low numbers that your raw DPS in any situation seems a whole lot better dumping your money into AD and armor pen.

    e: And I just, personally, have not found a role for EZ that holds up well compared to low-risk, high dps activity during team fights and chases.

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  • surrealitychecksurrealitycheck lonely, but not unloved dreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered User regular
    gunblade ez gives you the fun of ap ez (beacuse of the dual ratio on his ult) and some of the autoattack fun of ad ez

    less hard carry more ad caster

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  • AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    Rami wrote:
    Pro Nasus build: Triforce, Bloodthirster, Infinity Edge, Bloodthirster, Gunblade.

    1800 damage crits. 95% lifesteal.

    If I'm ever in a 2 hour Nasus game, this'll be my end build!

    We'll see how long this blog lasts
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  • TalithTalith 変態という名の紳士 Miami, FLRegistered User regular
    edited October 2011
    kedinik wrote:
    Talith wrote:
    kedinik wrote:
    Talith wrote:
    Dac Vin wrote:
    I finally figured out hybrid Ezreal exists.

    Hi there.

    My one and only penta out of 2000 games played is on Hybrid Ezreal.

    I would hazard to guess this was kind of circumstantial and not really because hybrid is any good?

    I see so little value to it, the ratios are so bad.

    Do you understand what makes a ratio good?

    There's no need for snark or condescension, I never pretended to be great at this game.

    They're just such low numbers that your raw DPS in any situation seems a whole lot better dumping your money into AD and armor pen.

    The question was meant to be taken at face value.

    Ratios are good in generally two ways, one is in total ratios being applied in a strong single spell rotation burst. The other is in sustained damage through low cooldowns constantly applying your item investment over the course of an engagement.

    Ezreal has good combined AD + AP ratios on all his skills in addition to their base values being good; the reason Ezreal scales well, hybrid and AP wise, is because of his non-linear cooldown reduction through his mystic shot. That is to say he gains more cooldown reduction than what the percentage implies, because his Q gives a flat cooldown reduction on top of the percentage cooldown through buffs and items. Combined with the cost effectiveness of hybrid items (they have to be), he is constantly leveraging his item investment over the course of a fight.

    Hybrid Ezreal has good auto attacks, good skills and a great ult that quickly passes 1000 AoE damage on a global skillshot. Gunblade is core and it's sustain and active work very well with him.

    Note in this case he is a hybrid mage and not a hard physical auto attack carry.

    Edit: Give Ezreal blue buff so that he can focus on damage items.

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  • KayKay What we need... Is a little bit of PANIC.Registered User regular
    So what would be a good hybrid Ezreal build?

    In other news, I pressed the big red 'PLAY' button enough to hit level 30 just now, on an insanely laggy match where I played a sort-of-okay Malphite. It was a pretty good Malphite I think, when you consider the lag. Yay, go me, I can play the actual game of LoL now and not the weird not-game I was playing before.

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  • RamiRami Registered User regular
    Aegis wrote:
    Rami wrote:
    Pro Nasus build: Triforce, Bloodthirster, Infinity Edge, Bloodthirster, Gunblade.

    1800 damage crits. 95% lifesteal.

    If I'm ever in a 2 hour Nasus game, this'll be my end build!

    Nah bro you just get 30 kills in 20 minutes.

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  • TalithTalith 変態という名の紳士 Miami, FLRegistered User regular
    Gunblade, starting with cutlass.

    Then you just build as the game allows.

    Items to consider:

    second gunblade, trinity force + infinity edge, deathcap + lichbane, last whisper and void staff, rageblade.

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  • Dac VinDac Vin S-s-screw you! I only listen to DOUBLE MUSIC! Registered User regular
    So I said "one last game, win or lose I just fucking give up".

    And then we had a ragequitter.

    Why? Why can't I win shit? This game is completely fucking unenjoyable, I see my teammates do the dumbest shit imaginable (HAI I AM LOW HEALTH EZREAL LET ME ENTER A BUSH I RECENTLY SAW A WARWICK ENTER HERP DERP DURF HURF) and all I can do is scream at my incompetence and how no matter what I do I can't carry four people on myself. Even with an awesome early game and stomping I'm going to lose anyway.

    At this point I am just desperate.

  • Soviet WaffleSoviet Waffle Registered User regular
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  • RaslinRaslin Registered User regular
    Holy crap why did nobody tell me about dunk yi.

    dunking so hard.

    I cant url good so add me on steam anyways steamcommunity.com/id/Raslin

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  • zerg rushzerg rush Registered User regular
    Dac Vin, have you tried duo queuing with PA folks?

    Or making an alt and playing at low level?

  • KayKay What we need... Is a little bit of PANIC.Registered User regular
    Dac Vin - the new Fizban?

    Seriously, walk away from the game for a few days, or just bot with friends or whatever. You are not enjoying yourself! Do not do things you do not enjoy!

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  • CarnarvonCarnarvon Registered User regular
    Raslin wrote:
    Holy crap why did nobody tell me about dunk yi.

    dunking so hard.

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  • 21stCentury21stCentury Call me Pixel, or Pix for short! [They/Them]Registered User regular
    edited October 2011
    So, I heard the words "magewick", some sort of AP build for warwick, I assume.

    What's Magewick? Sorc Shoes, RoA, Deathcap, Spirit Visage and maybe something for mana or is that too magey?

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  • Dac VinDac Vin S-s-screw you! I only listen to DOUBLE MUSIC! Registered User regular
    edited October 2011
    zerg rush wrote:
    Dac Vin, have you tried duo queuing with PA folks?

    Or making an alt and playing at low level?

    Remember when I mentioned a instalock Twitch and Skarner combo who so utterly failed their lanes it was scary?

    That was the game with the PA duo queue. I am literal when I say that I've tried just about everything to win and nothing works this weekend.
    Kay wrote:
    Dac Vin - the new Fizban?

    Seriously, walk away from the game for a few days, or just bot with friends or whatever. You are not enjoying yourself! Do not do things you do not enjoy!

    Nah, my attitude is way too deprecative for me to be anywhere near Fizban. He's like "IF YOU'RE BAD YOU SHOULD KILL YOURSELF" and I'm like "why can't I be a godlike summoner and carry all these bads" FUCK IM FALLING DOWN ALL THESE REINCARNATIONS OF DAN DINH

    I need a break of course, but it's too late, the damage's been done and LoL utterly broke me.

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