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"The only way to get rid of a temptation is to give into it." - Oscar Wilde
"We believe in the people and their 'wisdom' as if there was some special secret entrance to knowledge that barred to anyone who had ever learned anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Justin, Apple over the past ten years has made leaps and bounds in just making computers work. Apple snobs aren't the community any more.
No they have spent 10 years producing an image and a brand that has reached a large section of the community due to the style and life style having an apple states. Watch and apple commercial and this comes through.
Because saying "they made computers just work" is like saying that Unix and Windows developers haven't been doing the same thing which is absurd and full of subjective opinions. A windows 7 computer just works 95% of the time or more. Don't say silly things.
Nope. No opinions will be changed. No consensus will be reached. Just two completely opposite camps entrenched and firing across no man's land where reason lays bleeding out.
I wonder if everyone will boo-hoo this hard when Gates dies?
I would. Gates means more to personal computing than Jobs ever did.
Jobs might mean more to mobile devices, but Microsoft changed everything.
The Apple kind of kick started personal computing. It was a pretty big deal. Windows is a huge deal, too, but you can't ignore the impact Apple had at the very beginning.
I wonder if everyone will boo-hoo this hard when Gates dies?
I will. The man is an asshole but through dos and windows he proliferated the personal computer more than Apple ever did. Windows and its standardization of certain things basically made personal computer normal in business and at home.
Also the Gates Foundation though having lots of holes does a lot of good work as well.
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ThomamelasOnly one man can kill this many Russians. Bring his guitar to me! Registered Userregular
an injustice nearly a century old has come to my attentio
what the fuck is How Green is my Valley and how did it beat out Citizen Kane and The Maltese Falcon in both the Best Picture and Best Director categories?
John Ford bitch. I swear to god, if you disrespect him I will shiv you like a bitch.
It was the best thing Orson did and the best thing anyone did that year, and in that category, in that year, Ford wasn't better than him and he shouldn't have won.
Ford was Wells equal and Wells spent weeks pouring over Ford's footage.
Steve Jobs was a terrifying tyrant to work for and that is part of what lead to apple's success.
There was a feeling of "oh god i cannot fail steve jobs"
Also a dick of an ex-husband.
HAVING SAID THAT.
The dude put together a phenomenal brand unlike any other on the planet.
Unlike any other?
Yeah, I'm gonna disagree with that.
Because McDonalds and Coke still exist.
Yes you are right. McDonalds and Coke pushed their respective industries ahead so much.
To say that Apple hasn't done an enormous amount for personal computing is insane.
As I said, Microsoft did more for the personal computer than any other company. IBM is probably the single most important computer company in history, though.
Apple is very good at pushing their propaganda and labeling it "innovation."
Man, IBM and Microsoft doing their little join of forces to put computing in the office really is what made the personal computing revolution more than anything else.
Also if we want to talk about GUI's that Xerox which then got turned into Apple and so on.
Steve Jobs was a terrifying tyrant to work for and that is part of what lead to apple's success.
There was a feeling of "oh god i cannot fail steve jobs"
Also a dick of an ex-husband.
HAVING SAID THAT.
The dude put together a phenomenal brand unlike any other on the planet.
Unlike any other?
Yeah, I'm gonna disagree with that.
Because McDonalds and Coke still exist.
Yes you are right. McDonalds and Coke pushed their respective industries ahead so much.
To say that Apple hasn't done an enormous amount for personal computing is insane.
As I said, Microsoft did more for the personal computer than any other company. IBM is probably the single most important computer company in history, though.
Apple is very good at pushing their propaganda and labeling it "innovation."
I walk in both worlds now Justin. I understand your perspective.
I like how we have three concurrently running threads that are arguing over if apple is the best thing since sliced bread or hipster devils.
Ah, the internet never changes.
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SarksusATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered Userregular
I don't see why one person or company has to "win" at personal computing. Shit loads of people contributed. Steve Jobs was one of them. Wozniak is another. So is Bill Gates.
I wonder if everyone will boo-hoo this hard when Gates dies?
I would. Gates means more to personal computing than Jobs ever did.
Jobs might mean more to mobile devices, but Microsoft changed everything.
The Apple kind of kick started personal computing. It was a pretty big deal. Windows is a huge deal, too, but you can't ignore the impact Apple had at the very beginning.
Haha, Apple, very beginning. That's hilarious.
Let me introduce you to the XEROX PARC. You know, the computer that Jobs got the ideas for the Lisa.
I wonder if everyone will boo-hoo this hard when Gates dies?
I would. Gates means more to personal computing than Jobs ever did.
Jobs might mean more to mobile devices, but Microsoft changed everything.
The Apple kind of kick started personal computing. It was a pretty big deal. Windows is a huge deal, too, but you can't ignore the impact Apple had at the very beginning.
I don't see why one person or company has to "win" at personal computing. Shit loads of people contributed. Steve Jobs was one of them. Wozniak is another. So is Bill Gates.
NO SARKSUS STEVE JOBS WAS POOP AND DID NOTHING EVER FOR ANYTHING
APPLE IS TERRIBLE AND ANYONE WHO LIKES IT IS WORSE THAN HITLER
"The only way to get rid of a temptation is to give into it." - Oscar Wilde
"We believe in the people and their 'wisdom' as if there was some special secret entrance to knowledge that barred to anyone who had ever learned anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche
I don't see why one person or company has to "win" at personal computing. Shit loads of people contributed. Steve Jobs was one of them. Wozniak is another. So is Bill Gates.
brofist me bro.
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SarksusATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered Userregular
I wonder if everyone will boo-hoo this hard when Gates dies?
I would. Gates means more to personal computing than Jobs ever did.
Jobs might mean more to mobile devices, but Microsoft changed everything.
The Apple kind of kick started personal computing. It was a pretty big deal. Windows is a huge deal, too, but you can't ignore the impact Apple had at the very beginning.
Haha, Apple, very beginning. That's hilarious.
Let me introduce you to the XEROX PARC. You know, the computer that Jobs got the ideas for the Lisa.
The Lisa was not Apple's first mass produced machine.
I don't see why one person or company has to "win" at personal computing. Shit loads of people contributed. Steve Jobs was one of them. Wozniak is another. So is Bill Gates.
I agree with you Sarks, but that isn't how the fight goes. Computing was a lot alliances and wars and betrayals and stolen secrets. Much like the building of Europe.
And this isn't counting the thousands of nameless engineers who did the design work. The thousands of programmers who have built things we don't even think about. The revolutions from the government(looking at you internet) and so forth.
an injustice nearly a century old has come to my attentio
what the fuck is How Green is my Valley and how did it beat out Citizen Kane and The Maltese Falcon in both the Best Picture and Best Director categories?
John Ford bitch. I swear to god, if you disrespect him I will shiv you like a bitch.
It was the best thing Orson did and the best thing anyone did that year, and in that category, in that year, Ford wasn't better than him and he shouldn't have won.
Ford was Wells equal and Wells spent weeks pouring over Ford's footage.
He wasn't his equal that year. What Welles did with Kane was exquisite and innovative, film was different after Kane. His accomplishments with that film are still spoken of today, what isn't spoken of is what's come out of How Green is my Valley.
Was Ford a great director? Yes, and I could even concede the point that, were you to take in the whole of his career and compare it to Welles, that Ford was even the better director. But he wasn't that year, that's the important thing. That year was Orson's and he was robbed.
Steve Jobs was a terrifying tyrant to work for and that is part of what lead to apple's success.
There was a feeling of "oh god i cannot fail steve jobs"
Also a dick of an ex-husband.
HAVING SAID THAT.
The dude put together a phenomenal brand unlike any other on the planet.
Unlike any other?
Yeah, I'm gonna disagree with that.
Because McDonalds and Coke still exist.
Yes you are right. McDonalds and Coke pushed their respective industries ahead so much.
To say that Apple hasn't done an enormous amount for personal computing is insane.
As I said, Microsoft did more for the personal computer than any other company. IBM is probably the single most important computer company in history, though.
Apple is very good at pushing their propaganda and labeling it "innovation."
I don't see why one person or company has to "win" at personal computing. Shit loads of people contributed. Steve Jobs was one of them. Wozniak is another. So is Bill Gates.
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Q: Do you value your sanity and/or calm?
"We believe in the people and their 'wisdom' as if there was some special secret entrance to knowledge that barred to anyone who had ever learned anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche
So you're saying Jobs didn't die, he just became a Bond villain?
Having not seen the pictures, they look fabulous.
I would.
I will, also depends if he dies soon or at around 90 or something.
No they have spent 10 years producing an image and a brand that has reached a large section of the community due to the style and life style having an apple states. Watch and apple commercial and this comes through.
Because saying "they made computers just work" is like saying that Unix and Windows developers haven't been doing the same thing which is absurd and full of subjective opinions. A windows 7 computer just works 95% of the time or more. Don't say silly things.
He's a huge philanthropist, but he doesn't have half the cult of personality.
Nope. No opinions will be changed. No consensus will be reached. Just two completely opposite camps entrenched and firing across no man's land where reason lays bleeding out.
I would. Gates means more to personal computing than Jobs ever did.
Jobs might mean more to mobile devices, but Microsoft changed everything.
The Apple kind of kick started personal computing. It was a pretty big deal. Windows is a huge deal, too, but you can't ignore the impact Apple had at the very beginning.
I will. The man is an asshole but through dos and windows he proliferated the personal computer more than Apple ever did. Windows and its standardization of certain things basically made personal computer normal in business and at home.
Also the Gates Foundation though having lots of holes does a lot of good work as well.
Ford was Wells equal and Wells spent weeks pouring over Ford's footage.
STOP BEING SO LAZY.
As I said, Microsoft did more for the personal computer than any other company. IBM is probably the single most important computer company in history, though.
Apple is very good at pushing their propaganda and labeling it "innovation."
Also if we want to talk about GUI's that Xerox which then got turned into Apple and so on.
I walk in both worlds now Justin. I understand your perspective.
Ah, the internet never changes.
Haha, Apple, very beginning. That's hilarious.
Let me introduce you to the XEROX PARC. You know, the computer that Jobs got the ideas for the Lisa.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PC_compatible
NO SARKSUS STEVE JOBS WAS POOP AND DID NOTHING EVER FOR ANYTHING
APPLE IS TERRIBLE AND ANYONE WHO LIKES IT IS WORSE THAN HITLER
"We believe in the people and their 'wisdom' as if there was some special secret entrance to knowledge that barred to anyone who had ever learned anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche
brofist me bro.
The Lisa was not Apple's first mass produced machine.
I agree with you Sarks, but that isn't how the fight goes. Computing was a lot alliances and wars and betrayals and stolen secrets. Much like the building of Europe.
And this isn't counting the thousands of nameless engineers who did the design work. The thousands of programmers who have built things we don't even think about. The revolutions from the government(looking at you internet) and so forth.
He wasn't his equal that year. What Welles did with Kane was exquisite and innovative, film was different after Kane. His accomplishments with that film are still spoken of today, what isn't spoken of is what's come out of How Green is my Valley.
Was Ford a great director? Yes, and I could even concede the point that, were you to take in the whole of his career and compare it to Welles, that Ford was even the better director. But he wasn't that year, that's the important thing. That year was Orson's and he was robbed.
I'd quibble and say Xerox, but meh.
Boy you need to shave.
It's distracting.