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I have always seen Captain Atom as a bit of a deconstructed representation
What he represents is of course the terrifying American WMD power during the Cold War.
The deconstruction comes from his own introspective ways, and how he feels like he has become seperated from everything else as a result of his power. Perhaps a metaphor for American being on an economic pedestal compare to the rest of the world? Except Cap is more self-aware maybe? and thus explores these themes.
I like to think about Superheroes in these ways, since for me one of the big draws of the genre is that it takes debates and questions from our lives, then expands them massively into fights between brightly coloured and powerful heroes and villains, providing a unique insight into these issues.
There's a paragraph just like that in my dissertation!
something about dc comic book characters has always seemed very subconscious to me
for example captain atom is absolutely what you say
but i don't think his creator in the 60's actually sat down and thought
"i'm going to make a character that represents how dang scary nuclear rockets are but gives us a way to humanize this fear and understand it through the transformative medium of comics"
after 20 more years of tense nuclear standoffs alan moore comes along and he actually does think
"you know what i'm going to write a captain atom that is overtly the militant cold war threat that the character personifies... and i will make him aware of that"
this made doctor manhattan an incredible character and it also made captain atom a better character
it gave we the readers something that resonated strongly, encouraged interpretation, and asked us to search for meaning in our funnybooks
basically i think the former is how DC comic superheroes tend to be by default
characters that go about their brightly colored costumed heroics while being incredibly charged with the power of the collective unconscious
but since the emergence of the "graphic novel" in the 80's and the advent of comics being taken a bit more for serious
we have had writers who actually have things like deconstruction in mind when they work with these same characters
unfortunately it also means alan moore is going to be a dick about it and say that comics sucked before him and that since him the comic industry has done nothing but leech on his ideas
I've always found the exploration of mankind's duality which is a subject that has been explored by countless comics to be of great interest. But that is just me.
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It is, though it has to be said that Alan Moore is actually known to be quite pleasant to fans of his books when he meets them
He just doesn't like the way the industry uses them or fucked him over
I think I read an article where he said that if people do enjoy his work, then that's all he could hope for and he's glad that they do so.
Also he bought a load of Christmas hampers with his own money and walked around his home town, giving them to homeless people. That seems like a nice thing to do.
Add that to the vicious burn thing and generally speaking I like Alan Moore
You know I had the chance to meet David Finch once and have him review my portfolio. A nicer guy you could never hope to meet. He is really down to earth and likable. I enjoy his artwork quite a bit too so it was a big nerdy moment of joy to sit across a table from him one on one.
Just thought I'd bring that up since you guys were discussing people in the indsutry.
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One of the many reasons I'm glad I don't have a well or live on a farm anymore. Chasing a varmint out of a well with a stick will forever haunt my nightmares.
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Posts
a buddha and a vengeful arabic deity discuss international politics
while beefy americans fly around and blow up nearby oil resources
Topical!
which come to think of is often how those things go with dc comics
so
good job everybody!
What he represents is of course the terrifying American WMD power during the Cold War.
The deconstruction comes from his own introspective ways, and how he feels like he has become seperated from everything else as a result of his power. Perhaps a metaphor for American being on an economic pedestal compare to the rest of the world? Except Cap is more self-aware maybe? and thus explores these themes.
I like to think about Superheroes in these ways, since for me one of the big draws of the genre is that it takes debates and questions from our lives, then expands them massively into fights between brightly coloured and powerful heroes and villains, providing a unique insight into these issues.
There's a paragraph just like that in my dissertation!
for example captain atom is absolutely what you say
but i don't think his creator in the 60's actually sat down and thought
"i'm going to make a character that represents how dang scary nuclear rockets are but gives us a way to humanize this fear and understand it through the transformative medium of comics"
after 20 more years of tense nuclear standoffs alan moore comes along and he actually does think
"you know what i'm going to write a captain atom that is overtly the militant cold war threat that the character personifies... and i will make him aware of that"
this made doctor manhattan an incredible character and it also made captain atom a better character
it gave we the readers something that resonated strongly, encouraged interpretation, and asked us to search for meaning in our funnybooks
basically i think the former is how DC comic superheroes tend to be by default
characters that go about their brightly colored costumed heroics while being incredibly charged with the power of the collective unconscious
but since the emergence of the "graphic novel" in the 80's and the advent of comics being taken a bit more for serious
we have had writers who actually have things like deconstruction in mind when they work with these same characters
which i think is pretty dang cool
Which is pretty cool, and means that comics can tell us a lot about the period in which they were written, I think
But he is kind of a dick about that whole thing, yeah
Him flipping off the industry doesn't really bother me
Besides, as much as I don't agree with some of his criticisms, it's nice to see somebody giving the industry shit for a change
A lot of the time, comics "journalism" is just extended advertisement for comic companies
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also solar i do like how alan moore hits the comics industry with a vicious burn now and then too
(especially when he is correct)
it's just kinda tough to be a fan of his sometimes
He just doesn't like the way the industry uses them or fucked him over
I think I read an article where he said that if people do enjoy his work, then that's all he could hope for and he's glad that they do so.
Also he bought a load of Christmas hampers with his own money and walked around his home town, giving them to homeless people. That seems like a nice thing to do.
Add that to the vicious burn thing and generally speaking I like Alan Moore
Just thought I'd bring that up since you guys were discussing people in the indsutry.
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going to have to pull some zen shit with whatever test of divine wisdom i come up with
black adam has to win somehow or at the very least not lose
because we all know what happens when he gets angry
yes yes yes i hope adam is down
and i hate nerds
You'd probably better sit down first
Also Thundermind appealing to Black Adam's pride is great.
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happy birthday, Superman! we love you!
I got you a nice cake.
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MAN I AM REALLY IN A CRAPPY MOOD ABOUT THIS
WHY DO I INSIST UPON LIVING IN THIS THIRD WORLD COUNTRY CALLED NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
at least it wasn't a zombie
Because you hate yourself?
Because you went outside yesterday and it was beautiful and then you found a dead thing.
If you were down south (east) you'd go outside, it would smell a little "off" and then you'd fry up that dead animal. I kid. But only a little.
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i have no idea how a calf climbed up on top of the cover and fell through the board
going to have to rent a pump from one of the equipment places tomorrow
then shovel out the bottom
yech
i guess another upside is that we're finally going to get a modern well drilled and plumbed for my house
so that i won't be living of this backwoods 1850's water supply anymore
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the spring box is mucked out and drained and now refilling
it was nasty, but not as nasty as the initial fishing-out-pieces-of-rotting-dead-animal part
according to the quran i should wait three days before using this water again
however since ima murrican cuntra boah
(sound of spitting tobacco)
i'll shock the system with some clorox first let er sit overnight an flush er out agin
at times in louisiana i could not decipher what people were trying to tell me
most of the time it was some variation on
yaint frummarandheah ahya
luckily i had a friend from arkansas to vouch for me at the time
usually in the form of
this's mah buddy pete -- now he's from caliphoneya -- but he's aright
go hawgs
u
effect
threeeee
Oh and Justice Leage Doom wasn't very good. I did enjoy the nod to the DC relaunch by including Cyborg in the roster though.
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hopefully mass effect three and alcohol shall provide some succor
if not i guess i can always call arc and bitch about comix or something