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Can't find Jerry on depression
Bobby98989
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Hey, I was hoping you could help me out. I've been searching for several hours now trying to find where Jerry talked about his anxiety and depression and his (then) constant thoughts of violent suicide. I can find Mike's writings on his issues, but I'm having trouble finding Jerry's. I knew they exist, but my google-fu has returned little.
Maybe it was in one of the old podcasts? I don't know. It's -not- the PATV Drugs episode, the commentary tracks or the deleted scenes, as those mostly focus on Mike's experience and it doesn't seem to be a news post on the site (I'd like to think it'd turn up in the searches I've done were that the case).
Any direction would be greatly appreciated.
Maybe it was in one of the old podcasts? I don't know. It's -not- the PATV Drugs episode, the commentary tracks or the deleted scenes, as those mostly focus on Mike's experience and it doesn't seem to be a news post on the site (I'd like to think it'd turn up in the searches I've done were that the case).
Any direction would be greatly appreciated.
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He talks about it a bit in the podcast for The Law of Unintended Consequences, the one about Infamous 1
http://www.audioentropy.com/
I can never remember which one is Mike and which one is Jerry!
jerry holkins = tycho
i had no idea that they both struggled with depression, and this is interesting
but those comics seem to demonstrate a profoundly poor understanding of anxiety disorder and the medications used to alleviate its symptoms
There was one bit on PATV where Tycho's kid was like "I'm sad. I don't know why" and it was just like maaaaaaaaaaan.
I actually have a serious problem with the way Jerry and Mike talk about their concerns over their children (because in retrospect you could seeing things that aren't necessarily there, just the things that you are afraid they COULD be), but this problem is mostly around how misinformed they seem to be and where on earth their information comes from. However I do respect their openness and experience and it's different for everyone, so there's that!
Teach me, Vivivine
A recurring theme in therapy (in my experience, at least) was the need to try and change your way of thinking. Instead of dwelling on negative thoughts that can hasten the slide into a depression "spiral", so to speak, one must basically try to think "happy thoughts" when they recognize the onset of sadness.
So basically, try and reinforce positivity.
Medication is usually necessary to fix chemical imbalances, therapy to address the mental aspect.
or become batman
right yes ok
but the root cause of clinical depression cannot be abated by saying "be happy bro" when you physically cannot be happy
You punch that god damned deficiency right in its smug little face.
sure would be great if I had health insurance
I'm well aware that it's not that simple, but the therapy and change in thought process is supposed to help. When combined with medication, the hope is to manage depression, if you cannot eliminate it entirely.
Correct. That's why the best treatment (again, in my experience) is the combination of those two treatments: therapy and medication.
i will continue to do so until you stop moping
psychology, give me all your money
try and hit me all the way up here stumpy
wait until i get my step stool
then we'll see who is laughing
(it will be me, because I am able to be happy)
Indeed. That is why therapy alone failed for me twice in the past, but I've finally felt my general state of mind improve once I started an SSRI.
I get real happy when I do that thing where you put your hand on a short dude's head and he tries to hit but he can't
see you think that would work
but then it ends with you getting kicked in the nards
Resilience is essentially your ability to "bounce back" from negative life events like trauma, loss, or an otherwise unwelcome change. It's governed by your adaptability and sense of self. A good indicator of resilience is how efficiently someone returns to "normal" function after such a life event has occurred (NOTE: efficiency is not the same as speed of recovery!).
Building resilience can be done in many ways. Positive modeling for managing major life stressors, for example. Learning good coping skills by example or education. A good support system and a supportive family that validates your feelings and then teaches you how to manage them. Teaching kids or even adults different ways of coping can help build resilience by giving them more tools to use in defense of things like trauma.
Everyone is going to get knocked on their ass by trauma; you're not IMMUNE to it. It's about whether or not that triggers any genetic or psychosocial vulnerabilities you have, turning it into a mental health illness.
Also I have to go to a driving lesson now but I can talk more about this in a little bit.
that has nothing to do with clinical depression where you are literally incapable of controlling your mood
EDIT: Dammit Pip.
Yah. I'm depressed. It got hella bad last few months. 10 more mg of Citalopram and heeey everything's OK.
you take them because it is tuesday and your option are not eat for 3 days because you don't want to leave the bed even though you're hungry or to eat a fucking bullet, those are things that are not healthy or normal and not something you can bounce back from by willing it
Are you on Celexa? If so, does it mess with your stomach? That is the only downside I've had from it so far.
you're telling that to a robot
boy your face must be red
5 years ago none of those things were possible for me, despite support from family and friends and shrinks and despite how strongly I wanted to be able to feel something other than the desire to not exist
Lexapro actually messed me up a lot more than Celexa did.
All stomach hurting and giving me that awful top-of-your-head-falling-off robo-trip yawn, and for the first few days, made me like, crazy miserable.
@Pip
I've never tried anything else so I can't compare, but so far the Celexa gives me far more stomachaches than I'm comfortable with. I was going to talk to my doctor this month, but I had to cancel my appointment at the last minute and now I won't see him again until the end of November. So in the meantime, I'm just dealing with it.