That's going to lead to a big Wolvering/Hulk fight, isn't it? Ugh.
I'd love to see them creatively deal with him, instead of just throwing Colossus and Wolverine at him or something. Or having Colossus throw Wolvering at him, actually.
Like Nightcrawler teleports his head into a block of adamantium.
I'm wondering if we're going to see the return of the Infinity Gems, especially since a now-powerless Xavier still has the Mind Gem. I mean, Hulk as portrayed recently certainly seems to merit at least the individual use of the gems (albeit not the gauntlet). Since it's implied that Xavier might also know where the others are keeping their gems, I don't think it's entirely unlikely.
In fact, given that the Illuminati were the ones who punted him off-world, it'd be somewhat apropos for them to use the gems against him.
Man, I hope they don't use the infinity gems... see my problems with the sentry and multiply it by 100 for those puppies.
Unless the Hulk and his warbound decide to hijack a cosmic cube or some other reality threatening item on their way to Earth... those gems have no reaosn to be in the story.
If they use them and they don't work, they then need to explain just HOW the Hulk and/or warbound resisted/survived/defeated them. If they use them and they work (last minute kind of deal) then you have a lame deus ex machina ending to the event.
Just like the sentry, the gems have no place being on earth unless they are setting the stage (or ending it) for some massive cosmic event. The Hulk may be a threat, he may be more powerfull then ever, he may even be strong enough to shatter the entire planet and mess a whole lot of peoples game up... but he's not something trying to alter the natural order of the universe or plot it's untimely end... so they really don't have a reason to use them.
I hope to see him & his pals (including the old champions) become an entire faction in the Marvel universe, disrupting the plans of the new evil overlords (Stark & Richards & SHIELD) and kicking ass.
Does anyone think the Hulk is mad enough to start killing civvies?
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This has almost nothing to do wtih WWH, but I was just wondering about the Hulk and his 'unlimited' potential strength and where he gets the extra power from and one thing lead to another so:
If hulk has unlimited potential powers, and can effectively 'break' planets, would he be seen as a threat to Galactus? If not physically, than indirectly by having the power to destroy Galactus' food? Moreover, could Galactus 'tap' into the hulk for food? I imagine Galactus 'feeding' on the hulk would only make him more pissed, and thus giving galactus more power.
If I understand it correctly, Galactus needs very specific energies in order to survive. So if Hulk doesn't have those energies, then Galactus can't use him as an unlimited food source.
I hope to see him & his pals (including the old champions) become an entire faction in the Marvel universe, disrupting the plans of the new evil overlords (Stark & Richards & SHIELD) and kicking ass.
Does anyone think the Hulk is mad enough to start killing civvies?
I think the Hulk has the "capability" to be a cosmic event, but he has no interest in it. Even in his Maestro persona (probably the most evil and ambitious one seen so far), he was perfectly content to be in his own little corner of the world.
As far as killing civilians... it would not be a case of mad enough, it would be a case of how his personality reacts... the Hulk, for all his talk and bravado, is still a "good guy". He had the chance to abandon everything in his new wrold but still eventually tried to make things right, it's in his nature for most of his personalities so long as he's not totally mindless.
As for being a threat to Galactus... maybe if Galactus was seriously underpowered from hunger he could topple him... but that's a stretch. The Hulk is strong but he doesn't have any real defense against something like Galactus and other cosmic powerhouses.
If he was somehow able to rage on against him unchecked long enough, then there is a good chance he would be able to hurt Galactus badly, but how owuld he survive long enough to get to that point is the question.
As for feeding Galactus, until he's retconned or changed, rewritten, whatever... Galactus is made to feed off planets, he exists to keep the universe in check and maintain part of its natural order, so feeding off the Hulk, while maybe he could tap into those energies, is not something which would sustain him.
And where does the Hulk get that power? Who knows really? Where he would be able to pull in and create the pure caloric energy needed to power his muscles for his feats of strength is just part of where you need to suspend disbelief while reading a comic book.
He's powered by gamma radiation. Galactus might be able to modify his feeding machinery to use that.
And Galactus was physically taken down by Hercules and Sasquath (I think) during an Avengers/Alpha Flight crossover. So if he's not at full strength, and if Hulk is mad enough, it's perfectly believable.
He's powered by gamma radiation. Galactus might be able to modify his feeding machinery to use that.
And Galactus was physically taken down by Hercules and Sasquath (I think) during an Avengers/Alpha Flight crossover. So if he's not at full strength, and if Hulk is mad enough, it's perfectly believable.
I'm really against that. Mainly because it leads to thinking like "Well fuck, maybe WOVLERINE can take Galactus" and so on and so forth. I have enough problems now reading Marvel after stupid shit like Wolverine regenerating from one cell, and all I need is him calling Galactus "bub".
He's powered by gamma radiation. Galactus might be able to modify his feeding machinery to use that.
And Galactus was physically taken down by Hercules and Sasquath (I think) during an Avengers/Alpha Flight crossover. So if he's not at full strength, and if Hulk is mad enough, it's perfectly believable.
I'm really against that. Mainly because it leads to thinking like "Well fuck, maybe WOVLERINE can take Galactus" and so on and so forth. I have enough problems now reading Marvel after stupid shit like Wolverine regenerating from one cell, and all I need is him calling Galactus "bub".
agreed, and I don't see Hulk taking down Galactus directly in a physical fight. I was jsut thinking that, If Hulk has the ability to 'break worlds' - galactus' food - then he does have a way to indirectly affect Galactus' health. Therefore came be deemed a threat to galactus.
Sure, Hulk could just go around offing worlds here and there, but it's only planets that sustain life that interest Galactus... so the hulk would wind up being a genocidal villain in order to starve Galactus.. who can move faster and pinpoint worlds with his Tech or his Heralds, whereas the Hulk would just be guessing which worlds would be potential targets.
As for Herc and Saquatch taking down Galactus... sure, it's possible if he was weakened enough... but to take him down permanently is another issue (in annihilation he was taken down by equally as powerfull beings but not killed).
So again, I think there are any number of beings who are powerfull enough to incapacitate Galactus when weakened, but very few with the power to kill him, and even fewer still with enough power to actually take him on when he's just fed.
And wolverine coming back from a drop of blood was hax made of fail and wtf.
But if anything has been proven, it's that all it takes for anyone in the MU to take anyone else down is a writer that feels like making it true (Spiderman VS Firelord anyone?).
I'll always fondly remember when Spidey pulled the ol' 'cover his face with webbing' trick to blind Sabertooth. Who promptly ripped the webs and his face off. Instead of just being really angry and killing Pete, he...passed out...and went to the hospital.
Galactus hardly ever encounters mainstream characters when he's not looking for a meal or suffering from some sort of problem. I'd still say the odds on Hulk aren't that bad.
So, this brings up two questions. Who wins if Galactus, Hulk, and GalactusHulk all fight? Secondly, just how much anger would a Hulk/DBZ crossover contain?
So, this brings up two questions. Who wins if Galactus, Hulk, and GalactusHulk all fight? Secondly, just how much anger would a Hulk/DBZ crossover contain?
If there was an accepted unit of anger, I would totally go for the "OVER NINE THOUSAAAAAND" cliche right now!
I'm really looking forward to this event, but there're so many ways the scenario could play out that I don't know what to expect. I'm hoping the various cosmic powerplayers are dealt with in a way that works, though.
You know, no cop out excuses if certain things don't appear/aren't explained first-off.
"Yeah, uh, Sentry swallowed all the Infinity Gems for a bet, taking him and the Gauntlet out of action in a puff of convenience."
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If they turned Sentry into the "Safety Monkey" of Mighty Avengers, I might have to start buying it...
Apparently, Hammerhead beat Sentry. Taking him down is as simple as demoralizing him, and I'm sure the circumstances of Hulk's exile are more than enough to fill Sentry with doubt and cause him to lose all resolve.
So they're reusing the Gladiator gimmick? Speaking of...then I'd like to see those two fight...
Eh, sort've. Gladiator gets weaker the lower his self-confidence goes. Sentry is a gladiator with multiple personality disorder that just breaks down and goes batshit insane.
Finally got a chance to read the WWH prologue today. Never read the original story about Cho, so I'm glad they reprinted it.
Cho really looks alot like Nico from Runaways in a few of those frames...
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I hope to see him & his pals (including the old champions) become an entire faction in the Marvel universe, disrupting the plans of the new evil overlords (Stark & Richards & SHIELD) and kicking ass.
Does anyone think the Hulk is mad enough to start killing civvies?
Actually, the Hulk is damn strong.
And now, he actually knows how to fight.
What was the Hulk we had before? The green dumb one, who just threw punches. Then we had intelligent Hulk, who was a scientist who put together gadgets, yet still threw punches. Then we had the Grey Hulk, who liked to fight dirty, yet still threw punches.
Ever wonder why cap America and Spidey once in a while managed to beat/escape the Hulk, because Hulk doesnt know how to fight. its like Superman vs Wonder Woman, sure Superman is damn stronger, but Wonder Woman is a frigging Amazon, she knows hand-to-hand and sword fights like no other.
But now we have intelligent Hulk. Who also is a goddamn oiled fiighting machine, having trained as a Gladiator, then with his Planet Hulk buddies.
Add to that the Warbound are damn tougher than the average 616 Earth hero.
Add a few of Hulk´s old Hero buddies joining in with him.
This isnt "leave me alone duh!" Hulk anymore. This is a Hulk pissed-off like never before, and know knows just how to use that strenght of his.
Honestly, I had a lot of fun watching heroes bash heroes during civil war. I'd really like to see Hulk open up a can on just about everyone, and I'd like the whole planet to devolve into chaos as a result.
Then Nova has to show up to try and recruit the Hulk into the Nova corps.
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Well try not to get your hopes up. Apparently WWH is the "small event" of the year, and will not be inducing any changes that effect any books that don't have a WWH tag on them.
As far as Galactus goes, I like him more as a cosmic entity that's unknowing and all powerful and heralds the arrival of something epic going on as opposed to a weight that charecters use to bench press to show how "l33t" they are. I don't care if he's weakened or not, just leave him alone. Else you're gonna writers who take their pet charecter and go "Well so and so defeated him when he was 82% weakened...I'll write a story where (Pet Charecter) beats him at 72%!!!" and so on, until we've got the Champions (Initiative types) laying the smack down to a fully powered Galactus.
What I'm trying to say is, bringing Galactus in results in sloppy writing, as a whole. Remember when Galactus popped on the scene in the Fantastic Four? That comic did a great job of doing the entire "wtfomg", though granted he was a pretty new concept. Now? Black Panther has a "plan" against Galactus that apparently dosen't deal with kissing your ass goodbye or turning Wakanda into a flying space station and getting the fuck out of there. And that's just one of many examples. Leave cosmic beings in cosmic stories - we don't need more Sentry types plz.
As far as Galactus goes, I like him more as a cosmic entity that's unknowing and all powerful and heralds the arrival of something epic going on as opposed to a weight that charecters use to bench press to show how "l33t" they are. I don't care if he's weakened or not, just leave him alone. Else you're gonna writers who take their pet charecter and go "Well so and so defeated him when he was 82% weakened...I'll write a story where (Pet Charecter) beats him at 72%!!!" and so on, until we've got the Champions (Initiative types) laying the smack down to a fully powered Galactus.
What I'm trying to say is, bringing Galactus in results in sloppy writing, as a whole. Remember when Galactus popped on the scene in the Fantastic Four? That comic did a great job of doing the entire "wtfomg", though granted he was a pretty new concept. Now? Black Panther has a "plan" against Galactus that apparently dosen't deal with kissing your ass goodbye or turning Wakanda into a flying space station and getting the fuck out of there. And that's just one of many examples. Leave cosmic beings in cosmic stories - we don't need more Sentry types plz.
To be fair, the only thing we know about BP's Galactus plan is that it exists. All else is just idle speculation. Wakanda turning into a spaceship would be pretty badass, though. :^:
As far as Galactus goes, I like him more as a cosmic entity that's unknowing and all powerful and heralds the arrival of something epic going on as opposed to a weight that charecters use to bench press to show how "l33t" they are. I don't care if he's weakened or not, just leave him alone. Else you're gonna writers who take their pet charecter and go "Well so and so defeated him when he was 82% weakened...I'll write a story where (Pet Charecter) beats him at 72%!!!" and so on, until we've got the Champions (Initiative types) laying the smack down to a fully powered Galactus.
What I'm trying to say is, bringing Galactus in results in sloppy writing, as a whole. Remember when Galactus popped on the scene in the Fantastic Four? That comic did a great job of doing the entire "wtfomg", though granted he was a pretty new concept. Now? Black Panther has a "plan" against Galactus that apparently dosen't deal with kissing your ass goodbye or turning Wakanda into a flying space station and getting the fuck out of there. And that's just one of many examples. Leave cosmic beings in cosmic stories - we don't need more Sentry types plz.
To be fair, the only thing we know about BP's Galactus plan is that it exists. All else is just idle speculation. Wakanda turning into a spaceship would be pretty badass, though. :^:
Makes sense. I mean thats what he did when Silver Surfer came around. Why not up and run when Galactus comes?
Yes!! We haven't had a hate-on-BP derailment in FOREVER.
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Question - how does Hulk know exactly who sent him into space?
I read the Illuminati where they did it, but I can't recall and haven't been following until now.
Hulk was asked to destroy a threat by SHIELD that was out in space. Banner/HUlk see this as a chance to do something good, maybe help his image out some so agrees. He gets launched into space, finds out that Fury lied about the thing he was sent to destroy (it was a rogue SHIELD project).
Hulk is pissed, but destroys the thing anyways. He gets in the shuttle to go home and gets sent on a one way ticket to another world when the Illuminati "grace" him with their pre recorded video trying to justify their actions.
It's not all that clear actually on if Fury/SHIELD was involved to start with, or if the Illuminati found out about the mission in space and acted quickly to seize the opportunity... I don't know if that was ever explained.
Question - how does Hulk know exactly who sent him into space?
I read the Illuminati where they did it, but I can't recall and haven't been following until now.
Hulk was asked to destroy a threat by SHIELD that was out in space. Banner/HUlk see this as a chance to do something good, maybe help his image out some so agrees. He gets launched into space, finds out that Fury lied about the thing he was sent to destroy (it was a rogue SHIELD project).
Hulk is pissed, but destroys the thing anyways. He gets in the shuttle to go home and gets sent on a one way ticket to another world when the Illuminati "grace" him with their pre recorded video trying to justify their actions.
It's not all that clear actually on if Fury/SHIELD was involved to start with, or if the Illuminati found out about the mission in space and acted quickly to seize the opportunity... I don't know if that was ever explained.
The whole deal seems a bit too involved for SHIELD not to be involved in some way.
Makes sense. I mean thats what he did when Silver Surfer came around. Why not up and run when Galactus comes?
I don't know... concidering he got ahold of the nullifier and basically threatened the watcher with it before even asking if he'd help? Not to mention laying the smack down on mephisto... I think BP is getting plot armor on the level of Batman now... he can take down anyone a writer feels like having him take down.
This is the kind of thing that got DC in trouble, writers pick favorite characters and let them do whatever they feel like with no thought to the impact it has on everything else that is supposed to coexist with that character.
FF can't defeat Galactus, have to get the nullifier to basically strike a deal with him... yet Sentry can beat him, it skews the "order" of things.
Hulk is the strongest physical force in the MU outside of legitimate cosmic powerhouses (eternity, galactus, etc), yet void can break his bones like nothing.
Reed is the smartest in the world, Stark is brilliant and paranoid watching everyone... yet Cho not only fixed Reeds code, but also happened to be the only one to check up on a threat as Large as the Hulk with Tony/Reeds own monitoring equipment.
Not saying it all has to be perfect, or that everyone needs to adhere to a strick set of guidelines at all times, but there are points when things get a bit nuts.
Sentry, you're absolutely right. It has been way too long since we've had a "hate on BP/Hudlin" thread derail. It's like you guys don't even care any more.
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In all fairness, I was just joking. I'm sure next issue we see what BP really left to do. He obviously didn't leave his wife in space for no good reason.
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I'd love to see them creatively deal with him, instead of just throwing Colossus and Wolverine at him or something. Or having Colossus throw Wolvering at him, actually.
Like Nightcrawler teleports his head into a block of adamantium.
Oh certainly, I'm just saying as long as Chuckie tells him what he wants to know, he dosen't give 2 fucks about him after that.
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In fact, given that the Illuminati were the ones who punted him off-world, it'd be somewhat apropos for them to use the gems against him.
Unless the Hulk and his warbound decide to hijack a cosmic cube or some other reality threatening item on their way to Earth... those gems have no reaosn to be in the story.
If they use them and they don't work, they then need to explain just HOW the Hulk and/or warbound resisted/survived/defeated them. If they use them and they work (last minute kind of deal) then you have a lame deus ex machina ending to the event.
Just like the sentry, the gems have no place being on earth unless they are setting the stage (or ending it) for some massive cosmic event. The Hulk may be a threat, he may be more powerfull then ever, he may even be strong enough to shatter the entire planet and mess a whole lot of peoples game up... but he's not something trying to alter the natural order of the universe or plot it's untimely end... so they really don't have a reason to use them.
I hope to see him & his pals (including the old champions) become an entire faction in the Marvel universe, disrupting the plans of the new evil overlords (Stark & Richards & SHIELD) and kicking ass.
Does anyone think the Hulk is mad enough to start killing civvies?
If hulk has unlimited potential powers, and can effectively 'break' planets, would he be seen as a threat to Galactus? If not physically, than indirectly by having the power to destroy Galactus' food? Moreover, could Galactus 'tap' into the hulk for food? I imagine Galactus 'feeding' on the hulk would only make him more pissed, and thus giving galactus more power.
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I think the Hulk has the "capability" to be a cosmic event, but he has no interest in it. Even in his Maestro persona (probably the most evil and ambitious one seen so far), he was perfectly content to be in his own little corner of the world.
As far as killing civilians... it would not be a case of mad enough, it would be a case of how his personality reacts... the Hulk, for all his talk and bravado, is still a "good guy". He had the chance to abandon everything in his new wrold but still eventually tried to make things right, it's in his nature for most of his personalities so long as he's not totally mindless.
As for being a threat to Galactus... maybe if Galactus was seriously underpowered from hunger he could topple him... but that's a stretch. The Hulk is strong but he doesn't have any real defense against something like Galactus and other cosmic powerhouses.
If he was somehow able to rage on against him unchecked long enough, then there is a good chance he would be able to hurt Galactus badly, but how owuld he survive long enough to get to that point is the question.
As for feeding Galactus, until he's retconned or changed, rewritten, whatever... Galactus is made to feed off planets, he exists to keep the universe in check and maintain part of its natural order, so feeding off the Hulk, while maybe he could tap into those energies, is not something which would sustain him.
And where does the Hulk get that power? Who knows really? Where he would be able to pull in and create the pure caloric energy needed to power his muscles for his feats of strength is just part of where you need to suspend disbelief while reading a comic book.
And Galactus was physically taken down by Hercules and Sasquath (I think) during an Avengers/Alpha Flight crossover. So if he's not at full strength, and if Hulk is mad enough, it's perfectly believable.
I'm really against that. Mainly because it leads to thinking like "Well fuck, maybe WOVLERINE can take Galactus" and so on and so forth. I have enough problems now reading Marvel after stupid shit like Wolverine regenerating from one cell, and all I need is him calling Galactus "bub".
agreed, and I don't see Hulk taking down Galactus directly in a physical fight. I was jsut thinking that, If Hulk has the ability to 'break worlds' - galactus' food - then he does have a way to indirectly affect Galactus' health. Therefore came be deemed a threat to galactus.
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As for Herc and Saquatch taking down Galactus... sure, it's possible if he was weakened enough... but to take him down permanently is another issue (in annihilation he was taken down by equally as powerfull beings but not killed).
So again, I think there are any number of beings who are powerfull enough to incapacitate Galactus when weakened, but very few with the power to kill him, and even fewer still with enough power to actually take him on when he's just fed.
And wolverine coming back from a drop of blood was hax made of fail and wtf.
But if anything has been proven, it's that all it takes for anyone in the MU to take anyone else down is a writer that feels like making it true (Spiderman VS Firelord anyone?).
Galactus hardly ever encounters mainstream characters when he's not looking for a meal or suffering from some sort of problem. I'd still say the odds on Hulk aren't that bad.
So, this brings up two questions. Who wins if Galactus, Hulk, and GalactusHulk all fight? Secondly, just how much anger would a Hulk/DBZ crossover contain?
If there was an accepted unit of anger, I would totally go for the "OVER NINE THOUSAAAAAND" cliche right now!
I'm really looking forward to this event, but there're so many ways the scenario could play out that I don't know what to expect. I'm hoping the various cosmic powerplayers are dealt with in a way that works, though.
You know, no cop out excuses if certain things don't appear/aren't explained first-off.
"Yeah, uh, Sentry swallowed all the Infinity Gems for a bet, taking him and the Gauntlet out of action in a puff of convenience."
Eh, sort've. Gladiator gets weaker the lower his self-confidence goes. Sentry is a gladiator with multiple personality disorder that just breaks down and goes batshit insane.
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Cho really looks alot like Nico from Runaways in a few of those frames...
Actually, the Hulk is damn strong.
And now, he actually knows how to fight.
What was the Hulk we had before? The green dumb one, who just threw punches. Then we had intelligent Hulk, who was a scientist who put together gadgets, yet still threw punches. Then we had the Grey Hulk, who liked to fight dirty, yet still threw punches.
Ever wonder why cap America and Spidey once in a while managed to beat/escape the Hulk, because Hulk doesnt know how to fight. its like Superman vs Wonder Woman, sure Superman is damn stronger, but Wonder Woman is a frigging Amazon, she knows hand-to-hand and sword fights like no other.
But now we have intelligent Hulk. Who also is a goddamn oiled fiighting machine, having trained as a Gladiator, then with his Planet Hulk buddies.
Add to that the Warbound are damn tougher than the average 616 Earth hero.
Add a few of Hulk´s old Hero buddies joining in with him.
This isnt "leave me alone duh!" Hulk anymore. This is a Hulk pissed-off like never before, and know knows just how to use that strenght of his.
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Then Nova has to show up to try and recruit the Hulk into the Nova corps.
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What I'm trying to say is, bringing Galactus in results in sloppy writing, as a whole. Remember when Galactus popped on the scene in the Fantastic Four? That comic did a great job of doing the entire "wtfomg", though granted he was a pretty new concept. Now? Black Panther has a "plan" against Galactus that apparently dosen't deal with kissing your ass goodbye or turning Wakanda into a flying space station and getting the fuck out of there. And that's just one of many examples. Leave cosmic beings in cosmic stories - we don't need more Sentry types plz.
To be fair, the only thing we know about BP's Galactus plan is that it exists. All else is just idle speculation. Wakanda turning into a spaceship would be pretty badass, though. :^:
Makes sense. I mean thats what he did when Silver Surfer came around. Why not up and run when Galactus comes?
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and so forth, and so forth, and so forth.
I read the Illuminati where they did it, but I can't recall and haven't been following until now.
If I recall correctly they played him a little "begone-bitch" video as they shot him into a worm hole.
Hulk was asked to destroy a threat by SHIELD that was out in space. Banner/HUlk see this as a chance to do something good, maybe help his image out some so agrees. He gets launched into space, finds out that Fury lied about the thing he was sent to destroy (it was a rogue SHIELD project).
Hulk is pissed, but destroys the thing anyways. He gets in the shuttle to go home and gets sent on a one way ticket to another world when the Illuminati "grace" him with their pre recorded video trying to justify their actions.
It's not all that clear actually on if Fury/SHIELD was involved to start with, or if the Illuminati found out about the mission in space and acted quickly to seize the opportunity... I don't know if that was ever explained.
I don't know... concidering he got ahold of the nullifier and basically threatened the watcher with it before even asking if he'd help? Not to mention laying the smack down on mephisto... I think BP is getting plot armor on the level of Batman now... he can take down anyone a writer feels like having him take down.
This is the kind of thing that got DC in trouble, writers pick favorite characters and let them do whatever they feel like with no thought to the impact it has on everything else that is supposed to coexist with that character.
FF can't defeat Galactus, have to get the nullifier to basically strike a deal with him... yet Sentry can beat him, it skews the "order" of things.
Hulk is the strongest physical force in the MU outside of legitimate cosmic powerhouses (eternity, galactus, etc), yet void can break his bones like nothing.
Reed is the smartest in the world, Stark is brilliant and paranoid watching everyone... yet Cho not only fixed Reeds code, but also happened to be the only one to check up on a threat as Large as the Hulk with Tony/Reeds own monitoring equipment.
Not saying it all has to be perfect, or that everyone needs to adhere to a strick set of guidelines at all times, but there are points when things get a bit nuts.
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