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Problem member of a multi-family household.

MorvidusMorvidus Registered User regular
edited November 2011 in Help / Advice Forum
My family has fallen on hard times. We moved in with my in-laws when reality finally overwhelmed my protests, and have been living there for 3 years.

I lost my job in November 2009 after lack of sleep interfered with my work. My wife and I had a new baby, and even though my wife was sweet enough to wake up with him, something inside me wanted me up to help too.

My wife's brother is 32, hasn't worked since before Bush claimed "Mission Accomplished", and has no aspirations to do anything else with his life. Somehow, he got his Facebook girlfriend to move in with him, so now there's a third "family" in this household.

I started my new job this week, after 2 years of no work other than staying home with the kids. However, the brother-in-law sees this as a threat on his way of life. It's obvious that he's scared his mother will cut him off and make him find a job. He stays up all night picking screaming matches with my wife, his parents, and even my children while I am trying to sleep and not cause patient deaths at work the next day.

My concern here is obviously my family. I don't own the house, so I'm afraid if I called the police on him for creating a hostile environment for my children, I would be removed from the home and my children taken away. Talking to him is out of the question because he is beyond rational thought.

I only need 3-5 months at this job before u can get my family to a safe place, but this is only my first week and he has already done noticeable harm to my sleeping schedule, and I'm afraid it won't be long before it affects my work. How am I supposed to handle this situation properly, and if need be, legally?

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  • Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    Talk to his parents about it.

  • JebusUDJebusUD Adventure! Candy IslandRegistered User regular
    can't everyone simply avoid him?

    Buy some earplugs.

    and I wonder about my neighbors even though I don't have them
    but they're listening to every word I say
  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    This is a their house their rules situation. You need to talk your wife's parents and talk about reasonable hours and reasonable Noise. There needs to be an agreeed upon limit set by them. Then he is breaking the rules.

    If it continues you then point out a) that you may lose your job and b) it will prevent you from moving out. The key here is to show your parents that long term, it is better for them to side with you.

    Don't say, I want him gone. Start the conversation by saying you are having trouble sleeping due to the noise and you would like to start a discussion on what is fair to everyone. Also if you are not paying rent already start, even if it is a token amount. This will give you further standing.

  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    Additionally in regards to your wife. It takes two to argue and while it is often fucking hard to wander away from a fight talk to her and tell her what her shouting matches are doing to you. If there is no one shouting back the shouting matches are not going to last for very long.

    She knows what is at stake her so she should be able to walk away because of that.

  • dispatch.odispatch.o Registered User regular
    Do you pay rent?

    If not I would offer to sign a formal but open ended agreement to pay xx a month and a percentage of utilities. Even if it's a very small amount.

    Then I'd say you have every right to call the police if things escalate beyond yelling. Or you're afraid they might.

    Talk to your wife about being the bigger person in the immediate future and look into a small apartment ASAP. Even a one bedroom is fine for the first couple years with a baby.

  • RadicalTurnipRadicalTurnip Registered User regular
    Earplugs, White Noise machine, possibly even sound-absorbing cloth or something are going to be your best bets. It sucks that he is trying to undermine your success with how it effects him, and the paying rent thing is a good idea, except that (IANAL) I believe that if you're paying rent, then legally that makes your Parents-in-Law Land Lords (or some such more legal term) which puts tighter legal restrictions on them, so you may want to look into that if you're planning on following this advice.

  • Iceman.USAFIceman.USAF Major East CoastRegistered User regular
    edited November 2011
    Thirded earplugs.

    If you talk to the maintenance folks where you work (assumption of a hospital) they'll probably have boxes of those orange and green disposable plugs. I wear them on the weekends when I don't have to hear an alarm, but since you've got a lovely partner maybe she'd nudge you awake? I sleep so great when I wear them its fantastic.

    Edit: Obviously don't go stealing the things from your place of employment. Make sure its ok first.

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  • MidshipmanMidshipman Registered User regular
    If you go the earplug route, you can get a vibrating alarm clock to wake you up in the morning. Something like this would work http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/lights/8f1a/ (you can disable the sound portion).

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  • Dr. FrenchensteinDr. Frenchenstein Registered User regular
    Can't earplugs cause lots of problems if you sleep with them in? i can't back that up with any research.

    Do this guys parents not give a shit that he's screaming at his sister and their grandkids at all hours of the night? Honestly, you are probably just going to have to suck it up until you can get out of there. what a shitty situation.

  • ToxTox I kill threads they/themRegistered User regular
    Talk to your wife and see what your options are. Preferably, the two of you should sit down with her parents and discuss the fact that now that you're working, you'd like to contribute something to the household, because it's appropriate. Also give them some sort of indication of when you'd like to no longer be a burden on them.

    After all that's started and being discussed, ask about household rules, like noise levels and such. If it comes down to it, don't shy away from the fact that the brother's behavior is adding to your stress and subtracting from your sleep, both of which potentially put your job performance at risk. Also do not shy from the fact that he is yelling at your children. That is a red flag in my book.

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  • MorvidusMorvidus Registered User regular
    The mediation has already been scheduled for tomorrow, but the brother-in-law said he will refuse to participate. At this point, I know that I have my wife's parents on my side, but like you all said, the rental agreement is a damn good idea. We do help out with the bills, so perhaps I can convince them to roll that into a binding agreement so we get some say-so in the rules of the household and have some control over the emotional stress he's putting on my family, most importantly my children.

    It would also be nice to have the thermostat set to 74 instead of 68 sometimes...

    Thank you all for the help.

  • Dr. FrenchensteinDr. Frenchenstein Registered User regular
    How'd it go? if he's this much of a prick, i doubt anything beyond the parents giving him the boot will do much.

  • MorvidusMorvidus Registered User regular
    I was a bit surprised. He buckled, and his mother told him if he even attempts to sabotage anyone's sleep schedule or work habits, the police will be called on him for a domestic disturbance and he will be removed from the house.

    Now I actually enjoy this overly stressing and underpaying job without showing up tired and groggy.

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