I don't know how people played Origins more than once. I mean, I enjoyed Origins, but I'd take the recycled dungeons of 2 over the tedium of exploring a dungeon that's about five times bigger than it needed to be every time.
I don't know how people played Origins more than once. I mean, I enjoyed Origins, but I'd take the recycled dungeons of 2 over the tedium of exploring a dungeon that's about five times bigger than it needed to be every time.
I enjoyed the crap out of Dragon Age: Origins, warts and all. And I enjoyed the crap out of Dragon Age 2, as well. I'm not going to deny it had problems, because that's insane, but it's still one of my favorite things to come out this year.
Pretty much this. I also liked that instead of being the savior of the world, you're basically the destroyer of the world. Kind of an interesting change.
But she didn't make me pissed off at the game. Not like Anders did.
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and since I'm my own person who doesn't jump on bandwagons I still do
More like if you run the Foster's Home for Unwanted Opinions.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
I really hope that when people look back on DA2 they don't ignore everything that game got right and all of the neat ideas that are in that game in favor of just poring over everything that didn't work. The unreliable narrator, the snarky bastard dialogue option, the way your companions interact with each other when they're not hanging out with you, the idea of telling one story that takes place over years...
I mean, I understand a lot of the complaints. I don't understand the feeling of "betrayal," or whatever, because feeling that because a game wasn't exactly what you wanted it to be seems kind of insane to me, but there are legitimate flaws in the game. But there's a lot of really, really good stuff in there too.
I absolutely agree with their Most Disappointing. Given each game in context with the rest of those game's series, Dragon Age wins out.
I think my Steam play times pretty much show my perspective.
Dragon Age: Origins: 245 hours.
Dragon Age 2: 45 hours.
It was just... such a step back. Ugh.
45 hours is a step back.
Wait.
What.
It's a comparison from expectation to delivery. That I didn't want to play it again at all after beating it, compared to the first game? It's absolutely a step back.
But she didn't make me pissed off at the game. Not like Anders did.
See, I think the fact that his decision pissed you off so much is a mark in the game's favor. I really like how certain things in the game are legitimately beyond your ability to control.
But she didn't make me pissed off at the game. Not like Anders did.
See, I think the fact that his decision pissed you off so much is a mark in the game's favor. I really like how certain things in the game are legitimately beyond your ability to control.
That's true. And in Origins you can never really ever give Morrigan her comeuppance, so it's not that different really.
I just didn't like how much it felt like everything you did prior to that point in the game didn't matter. In Origins you're always actively working towards a goal, and then you complete it. In 2, things just happen, there's never any real sense that you're doing anything other than going along with the flow despite your best efforts to make things end up differently.
But she didn't make me pissed off at the game. Not like Anders did.
See, I think the fact that his decision pissed you off so much is a mark in the game's favor. I really like how certain things in the game are legitimately beyond your ability to control.
Yeah, one of the important themes in the game is that you can't fix everything. You may be a champion, but you are not a god, and occasionally you have to clean up shit that isn't your fault. Because that's how the world works.
I find it a little funny that DAO was supposed to be low fantasy and ended up as Bioware-does-Tolkien; then DA2 comes along, actually does a low-fantasy story well and gets thrashed.
I feel like the writing was better in 2 across the board, but the reusing resources is really what hurt it. and the making it more like mass effect 2 really pissed off the fan base, so yeah, it earned its spot as most disappointing, but i still feel like it was a good game.
One of the best parts of Dragon Age 2, and one of the most harrowing bits to any video game I've played, is when your mother gets kidnapped.
The fact that you're just one step behind the entire way until you finally realize that you're just too late, aaaagh.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
Dragon Age 2 just needed more polish and it would have been great. It is still a really good game, especially the first 2/3rds of it.
Also I was a dick to Anders the whole time anyway.
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Someday me and Munkus are gonna have a knife fight about the story of Deus Ex
But not this day
This day I'm going to go ahead and say that maybe an RPG should have more than five maps built for it and maybe Dragon Age 2 should not have come out in eighteen months
See video games industry, this is how you sell me games. phrases like "Monster detective" and "Buddy cop". If a game comes out and it is like a co-op buddy cop monster detective game, i will buy people copies so we can play it together.
You absolutely should play Witcher 2. Just swallow your pride and put it on easy and you'll have a blast.
Also my biggest disappointment would probably be Dead Island.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
Someday me and Munkus are gonna have a knife fight about the story of Deus Ex
But not this day
This day I'm going to go ahead and say that maybe an RPG should have more than five maps built for it and maybe Dragon Age 2 should not have come out in eighteen months
Eighteen? The game was released six months after they announced development.
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I'm looking forward DA3. I want to see them continue what they did in DA2 (as in the good stuff) and take the longer period of time to get it polished and done right.
If they had just spent more time on it instead of rushing it, they would've had a much much better product that people would've liked.
I still think DA2 had some great plot lines and dialogue. I liked it much more than most people, but what did really did get to me - and here I fully agree with people's complaints - was the game environment. So many repeated areas, so little variety. So bland.
Ok, I think "disappointment" needs clarification in these discussions. I don't think that Uncharted 3 and Dragon's Age 2 are bad games, at all, for example. But based on the developers involved, the pedigree, my enjoyment of the previous games, I was let down. They were far less good then I felt they should be.
Disappointing doesn't have to mean it's a bad game, it's just not the awesome that you hoped it would be.
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Yeah. I'm also excited to see if they get longer than like, a year and a half to develop 3.
specifically it had Sten
I tried to play it twice. I tried so hard.
But it was just too boring.
I think my Steam play times pretty much show my perspective.
Dragon Age: Origins: 245 hours.
Dragon Age 2: 45 hours.
It was just... such a step back. Ugh.
yeah but it also had that elf bastard that inexplicably ended up in my party until I killed him
Pretty much this. I also liked that instead of being the savior of the world, you're basically the destroyer of the world. Kind of an interesting change.
So. Much.
But she didn't make me pissed off at the game. Not like Anders did.
More like if you run the Foster's Home for Unwanted Opinions.
As long as an opinion is popular, you won't take it in.
45 hours is a step back.
Wait.
What.
I mean, I understand a lot of the complaints. I don't understand the feeling of "betrayal," or whatever, because feeling that because a game wasn't exactly what you wanted it to be seems kind of insane to me, but there are legitimate flaws in the game. But there's a lot of really, really good stuff in there too.
It's a comparison from expectation to delivery. That I didn't want to play it again at all after beating it, compared to the first game? It's absolutely a step back.
I never said it was a bad game.
See, I think the fact that his decision pissed you off so much is a mark in the game's favor. I really like how certain things in the game are legitimately beyond your ability to control.
That's true. And in Origins you can never really ever give Morrigan her comeuppance, so it's not that different really.
I just didn't like how much it felt like everything you did prior to that point in the game didn't matter. In Origins you're always actively working towards a goal, and then you complete it. In 2, things just happen, there's never any real sense that you're doing anything other than going along with the flow despite your best efforts to make things end up differently.
I have beat dragon age 2 twice or so as well. but that was beatinging, realized i missed a charatcer and then went back and beat it with him.
I couldn't have fun with non mage classes i found.
Yes, i did beat it a third time. Mage, City elf, human noble. yeah.
Yeah, one of the important themes in the game is that you can't fix everything. You may be a champion, but you are not a god, and occasionally you have to clean up shit that isn't your fault. Because that's how the world works.
I find it a little funny that DAO was supposed to be low fantasy and ended up as Bioware-does-Tolkien; then DA2 comes along, actually does a low-fantasy story well and gets thrashed.
Also I was a dick to Anders the whole time anyway.
But not this day
This day I'm going to go ahead and say that maybe an RPG should have more than five maps built for it and maybe Dragon Age 2 should not have come out in eighteen months
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That was such a great quest. And the aftermath contains one of my favorite bits:
Because that game looked poor from the get-go, that's why
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fuck you brink looked so good
Nope.
Game looked great but then it came out and whoops why are you picking Heavy body type and all of the maps are gigantic meat grinders
Now i want to play the witcher 2.
See video games industry, this is how you sell me games. phrases like "Monster detective" and "Buddy cop". If a game comes out and it is like a co-op buddy cop monster detective game, i will buy people copies so we can play it together.
See I didn't even have that problem and Brink is still disappointing!
Also my biggest disappointment would probably be Dead Island.
Eighteen? The game was released six months after they announced development.
If they had just spent more time on it instead of rushing it, they would've had a much much better product that people would've liked.
Disappointing doesn't have to mean it's a bad game, it's just not the awesome that you hoped it would be.