[Metal Gear] Ground Zeroes footage in the OP. Fox Engine. Holy moly.

Elderlycrawfish

If you're sneaky enough you can probably get away with just holding them up. Might even be able to get a couple of them in a single stickup.

Oh, and if I recall correctly, if you pull off the captures without detection, subsequent batches will arrive on the same side, soi you can just go and hide near the starting point and repeat as needed.

Extra Ops variants of that mission may differ though.

Renzo

Once the waves of ground troops are taken care of, you should be able to just tranq snipe the pilot.

Harder than it sounds, but doable.

edit: Fixed important word!

Elderlycrawfish

Ideally with the Mosin. I'm kinda bad at that sort of thing, but the Mk. 22 was a pain in the ass to tranq snipe the pilot with.

Also, I guess we need to start calling Peace Walker "MGS 4.5", since Kojima's got MGS5 in the works.

Helios127

So out of curiosity as I am quite new to this series and all, What is the chronological order of the series?

I know MGS3 comes first, with you playing as big boss/naked snake who decides later to clone himself and make Solid and Liquid... But then what? Is it MGS1 then?

The Wolfman

Helios127 wrote:

So out of curiosity as I am quite new to this series and all, What is the chronological order of the series?

I know MGS3 comes first, with you playing as big boss/naked snake who decides later to clone himself and make Solid and Liquid... But then what? Is it MGS1 then?

Metal Gear Solid 3 -> Portable Ops -> Peace Walker -> Metal Gear -> Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake -> Metal Gear Solid -> Metal Gear Solid 2 -> Metal Gear Solid 4

Portable Ops is debatable, nothing contradicts it but Peace Walker says right at the start "Glad we're done with that crap". And if and when Rising comes out, it'll probably be between 2 and 4.

And in case you're wondering, no don't play them in that order. Not if it's your first time through.

Helios127

The Wolfman wrote:

Helios127 wrote:

So out of curiosity as I am quite new to this series and all, What is the chronological order of the series?

I know MGS3 comes first, with you playing as big boss/naked snake who decides later to clone himself and make Solid and Liquid... But then what? Is it MGS1 then?

Metal Gear Solid 3 -> Portable Ops -> Peace Walker -> Metal Gear -> Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake -> Metal Gear Solid -> Metal Gear Solid 2 -> Metal Gear Solid 4

Portable Ops is debatable, nothing contradicts it but Peace Walker says right at the start "Glad we're done with that crap". And if and when Rising comes out, it'll probably be between 2 and 4.

And in case you're wondering, no don't play them in that order. Not if it's your first time through.

Thanks, I was asking out of curiosity if I ever wanted to try to untangle the mess of the storyline.

Does anyone - anyone play the MGS4 Metal Gear Online anymore by any curiosity? Im just wondering if its worth downloading. Im going back to MGS4, are there any tips I should really know about it?

Dirty

Yeah, definitely play the games in release order, not chronological. With one exception. I would say go ahead and play Peace Walker right before MGS4. PW doesn't spoil anything from MGS4 (as far as I could tell, if someone wants to correct me, go ahead), and it leaves 4 as your big finale.

GreasyKidsStuff

Thoughts on MGS5? Where does the story go after 4, if that's what Kojima intends to do?

Dirty

I feel like there's not really much left to do at this point. The games have always been about Solid Snake and Big Boss. We've seen where it began, we've seen where it ends, and we've seen just about every important event in between. There's only so much you can do making more games that take place between the existing games.

I think they need to either start from scratch, with a new protagonist to fill Snake's shoes*, or they need to pull a Star Trek 2011, and just start a new continuity.

*But not Raiden. Pre-MGS4, I would have thought of Raiden as a potential replacement for Snake. But the way he has developed, putting him in the same types of situations and gameplay as Snake wouldn't make sense.

Local H Jay

i would be down if MGS5 was MG and MG2 in the MGS4 engine
i wonder if MGS5 will be on 360 too

miscellaneousinsanity

I'm down with MGS5, but let Solid Snake have his peace. Give me a story about Solidus and I will buy three copies.

VALVEjunkie

Local H Jay wrote: »

i would be down if MGS5 was MG and MG2 in the MGS4 engine
i wonder if MGS5 will be on 360 too

well you can bet your ass it'll be on the fox engine, which kojima has said multiple times is great because of its cross platform capabilities.
whether or not mgs5 is even released this console cycle has yet to be seen, but when it is it will be on multiple consoles, no doubt about it.

SkyTurnsRed

Dirty wrote:

I feel like there's not really much left to do at this point. The games have always been about Solid Snake and Big Boss. We've seen where it began, we've seen where it ends, and we've seen just about every important event in between. There's only so much you can do making more games that take place between the existing games.

This is my issue and also why I'm not exactly warm to the idea.

VALVEjunkie

there's always pre mgs foxhound with liquid! or WWII ass kickery with the boss and her cobras!

Helios127

I feel like there's not really much left to do at this point. The games have always been about Solid Snake and Big Boss. We've seen where it began, we've seen where it ends, and we've seen just about every important event in between. There's only so much you can do making more games that take place between the existing games.

Thats what I was thinking, after all, Doesnt

Snake Die

at the end of MGS4?

The Wolfman

They'll either pull an Ac!d and create a whole new continuity, or pull a Castlevania and slot in a new story somewhere. And the problem with the latter is that there's almost no room left for that.

They could also just go after 4, with hopefully a new character. But it would feel kinda cheap, depending on how they handle it.

agoaj

Play as Solidus, it's a presidential campaign simulator.

UnbreakableVow

MGS5 will take place 20 years after MGS4 and you will play as Sunny Gurlukovich

VALVEjunkie

it's just educational software wherein you learn how to use Python and C

Local H Jay

i want a game where it's just metal gear piloting
so another ZoE i guess?

UnbreakableVow

Local H Jay wrote:

i want a game where it's just metal gear piloting
so another ZoE i guess?

But

(MGS4 spoilers)

Piloting a Metal Gear in MGS4 was shitty and unfun

Local H Jay

see i don't own a PS3 so i missed out on the one game where they did it eh
but yeah give it ZoE style controls and it'd be soo gude

Bursar

UnbreakableVow wrote:

Local H Jay wrote:

i want a game where it's just metal gear piloting
so another ZoE i guess?

But

(MGS4 spoilers)

Piloting a Metal Gear in MGS4 was shitty and unfun

Rebuttal but...

A Metal Gear is a walking tank. It should clomp along like that. Save your giant dancing robot ninjas for space/flying.

Hell, I'm annoyed the stupid thing roars. Like there's a button for "intimidate the enemy by screeching really loud while opening the cockpit and waving it at around to make the pilot dizzy." Otacon, you twerp.

The Wolfman

Bursar wrote:

UnbreakableVow wrote:

Local H Jay wrote:

i want a game where it's just metal gear piloting
so another ZoE i guess?

But

(MGS4 spoilers)

Piloting a Metal Gear in MGS4 was shitty and unfun

Rebuttal but...

A Metal Gear is a walking tank. It should clomp along like that. Save your giant dancing robot ninjas for space/flying.

Hell, I'm annoyed the stupid thing roars. Like there's a button for "intimidate the enemy by screeching really loud while opening the cockpit and waving it at around to make the pilot dizzy." Otacon, you twerp.

Otacon installed a street fighting subroutine into the thing. After that, I think a simple roar button is perfectly plausible.

Johnny Chopsocky

Bursar wrote:

UnbreakableVow wrote:

Local H Jay wrote:

i want a game where it's just metal gear piloting
so another ZoE i guess?

But

(MGS4 spoilers)

Piloting a Metal Gear in MGS4 was shitty and unfun

Rebuttal but...

A Metal Gear is a walking tank. It should clomp along like that. Save your giant dancing robot ninjas for space/flying.

Hell, I'm annoyed the stupid thing roars. Like there's a button for "intimidate the enemy by screeching really loud while opening the cockpit and waving it at around to make the pilot dizzy." Otacon, you twerp.

"It's just like one of my Japanese animes!"

deveric

maybe there is a 4 enfant terribles...just saying, would you put it past them to do that?

Brainiac 8

MGS 1 & 2 - Solid Snake
MGS 3 - First Snake
MGS 4 - Old Snake
MGS 5 - Dry Bones Snake!

TetraNitroCubane

Metal Gear Solid 5: When Raiden shows up for a much needed vacation on Solid Snake's tropical island getaway, he's shocked to find that his host has passed away... But Naomi, Otacon, Big Boss, Sunny, and Meryl are due to arrive anytime! Can Raiden maintain the facade of Snake's being alive and convince the other guests he's still the world's most legendary solider? Find out this summer in Weekend at Burn- Snakies.

SkyTurnsRed

Helios127 wrote:

I feel like there's not really much left to do at this point. The games have always been about Solid Snake and Big Boss. We've seen where it began, we've seen where it ends, and we've seen just about every important event in between. There's only so much you can do making more games that take place between the existing games.

Thats what I was thinking, after all, Doesnt

Snake Die

at the end of MGS4?

Nope. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7D6vCCd2koI - amazing ending.

lionheart_m

MGS 5 - Dry Bones Snake!

I want to see this!

Fawst

God DAMN, that fucking music gives me chills. So perfect.

I'm sure Kojima can come up with a storyline to make Solid Snake young again. Let's be honest: he got fucking shafted. And while that would be ridiculous, Kojima is a big fan of playing off of expectations. He'd figure out a way.

Of course, after re-watching that ending, it'd be a kick in the nuts, sort of.

Brainiac 8

R'as introduces Snake to his Lazerus Pit and wants him to be his successor since Batman turned him down. :P

Metal Gear Solid 5: Arkham Snakey!

Johnny Chopsocky

Brainiac 8 wrote:

R'as introduces Snake to his Lazerus Pit and wants him to be his successor since Batman turned him down. :P

Metal Gear Solid 5: Arkham Snakey!

Holy shit, Snake and Batman, sneaking the same room.

SO MUCH POTENTIAL

Brainiac 8

It could have an online multiplayer game: The Snake vs The Bat.

Who can out sneak who? :shock:

Dr_Keenbean

Helios127 wrote:

Does anyone - anyone play the MGS4 Metal Gear Online anymore by any curiosity? Im just wondering if its worth downloading. Im going back to MGS4, are there any tips I should really know about it?

I'll address this since no one else has. Last I logged on (which was some time ago), there were indeed people still playing. But I'd gather it's primarily a small community with their own meta-rules and shit.

I really enjoyed the time I spent with it at release but my PS3 was stolen by a vindictive ex and I didn't get a replacement until like 2010. That said the online is very antiquated, harking back to the early days of PSN (it does not use the PSN friends list and you need to set up a separate Konami account).

I don't understand your comment on downloading it? If you have MGS4 you should have MGO. You can always log in to it and see for yourself. Though I would say don't waste your time, which is a shame. It really is a unique experience.

mr-razzcocks

Dr_Keenbean wrote:

Helios127 wrote:

Does anyone - anyone play the MGS4 Metal Gear Online anymore by any curiosity? Im just wondering if its worth downloading. Im going back to MGS4, are there any tips I should really know about it?

I don't understand your comment on downloading it?

I remember more than once trying to play it and having to download a truly gargantuan patch. He probably means that.

Dehumanized

i would want MGS5 to be a game where you're big boss in outer heaven

standin' around, smoking cigars

then your jerkface son comes and kills you

Elderlycrawfish

....I'd play it.


Or since it's still a thing in pop culture, maybe we'll see Metal Gear Zombie (Left 4 Metal Gear? Metal Gear Rising-- oh wait), starring Zombie Snake! Master shambling stealth techniques, regain health by eating bad guy brains, eat Otacon and finally shut him up!

initiatefailure

maybe it'll be a game bridging the gap between metal gear and zone of the enders.

also mgs4 sidenote

how dare you say piloting metal gear wasn't awesome.

TetraNitroCubane

Initiatefailure wrote:

also mgs4 sidenote

how dare you say piloting metal gear wasn't awesome.

Thank you, sir. I was about to pipe up on this issue. I nearly had a heart attack from awesome at that point in the game.