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Buying a Motorcycle

wombatwombat __BANNED USERS regular
edited February 2007 in Help / Advice Forum
Ok so due to parking reasons, I find myself in need of a motorcycle or scooter. A car is not an option, because there is literally no where to park one where I live, but there are plenty of places available for smaller vehicles.

now because Ive never ridden a motorcycle before, I began looking for a relatively cheap motorcycle or scooter; sub $1000, if possible.


much to my surprise and my luck, I found a motorcycle: a 1979 Yamaha XS1100 for $500.

here's what the ad originally said
XS1100, mileage unknown, new plugs, rebuilt carbs, reupholstered seat, tank needs painting, runs great. Lost Storage, must sell
Randy

upon emailing the seller and inquiring further, he tells me
Bike was last registered in 2003, so there are some fees due to make it
street legal, it's got an oil leak behind the alternator, which may be an O
ring, or the seal, either one can be changed from the outside, no need to
split the cases. 2nd gear is good, it comes with all the parts pictured.
It's rideable as it is, just get the plates paid, and it's good to go

here is a list of specs for the model motorcycle:
http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/yamaha_xs_1100_1979.php

I researched it, and the registration, because it has been so overdue, is about $130 bucks.



Now this goes to all the gearheads and stuff out there: would this be a worthy bike for a beginner (who has had no motorcycle experience)? the price seems right, assuming the oil leak isn't that bad/that hard to fix. are there any other questions I should be asking?

I have to admit, I really like the price, even with the registration fee and the oil leak, and so Im tempted to pass on such a deal.


Im going to say this again because sometimes people don't read:

A CAR IS NOT AN OPTION. I AM FULLY AWARE OF AND OPENLY ACCEPTING THE INHERENT RISKS OF RIDING A MOTORCYCLE.


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  • FatsFats Corvallis, ORRegistered User regular
    edited February 2007
    wombat wrote: »
    Now this goes to all the gearheads and stuff out there: would this be a worthy bike for a beginner (who has had no motorcycle experience)?

    Not really, no. The XS1100 is an absolute screamer and was the fastest bike around until the mid 80's (the engine is still used in some drag bikes today). It's also a ginormous 600 lbs. wet. They are nice bikes, but not something I'd recommend to someone with no experience. "Mileage unknown" makes me wary, too.

    It shouldn't be hard to find a Yamaha XS400/500/650, a Honda CB400/500/550/650/750 or a Kawasaki Z500/650/750 of similar vintage within your budget. All the late 70's-80's Japanese bikes are reliable and inexpensive to maintain. I just think the 1100 is a bit much for a beginner.

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  • racyrefinedrajracyrefinedraj Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    wombat wrote: »
    mileage unknown

    Don't motorcycles have odometers?

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  • wombatwombat __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2007
    Fats wrote: »
    wombat wrote: »
    Now this goes to all the gearheads and stuff out there: would this be a worthy bike for a beginner (who has had no motorcycle experience)?

    Not really, no. The XS1100 is an absolute screamer and was the fastest bike around until the mid 80's (the engine is still used in some drag bikes today). It's also a ginormous 600 lbs. wet. They are nice bikes, but not something I'd recommend to someone with no experience. "Mileage unknown" makes me wary, too.

    It shouldn't be hard to find a Yamaha XS400/500/650, a Honda CB400/500/550/650/750 or a Kawasaki Z500/650/750 of similar vintage within your budget. All the late 70's-80's Japanese bikes are reliable and inexpensive to maintain. I just think the 1100 is a bit much for a beginner.

    how about something more like this:

    http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/mcy/284052515.html
    (1981 Yamaha Maxim XJ 550)

    the problem is, I can't seem to find any of those beginner bikes for under $1000 (ideally under 700), and besides Craigslist, I don't know where else to check.

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  • FatsFats Corvallis, ORRegistered User regular
    edited February 2007
    wombat wrote: »

    how about something more like this:

    http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/mcy/284052515.html
    (1981 Yamaha Maxim XJ 550)

    the problem is, I can't seem to find any of those beginner bikes for under $1000 (ideally under 700), and besides Craigslist, I don't know where else to check.

    That looks great. It will get much better mileage than the 1100 would, too. I'd try to talk him down a bit on the price, but honestly if it's as clean as it looks it's probably worth $900.

    Spring is coming up and you'll see a lot more bikes pop up soon. It never hurts to check the classified ads in the paper, I've had some good luck there.

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  • wombatwombat __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2007
    does anyone really know where else to look/what to do?

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  • ArbitraryDescriptorArbitraryDescriptor Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    wombat wrote: »
    does anyone really know where else to look/what to do?


    You could try www.cycletrader.com

    Do you live near a military base? Check their base classifieds if so. I got my bike on Ebay, but shipping gets expensive fast if it's too far away to go get yourself.

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  • xeroismygodxeroismygod Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Kawasaki Ninja 250 the price is right and can resell at pretty much what you purchased it for.

    Great size to learn skills on and can even go to track days.

    New 250s go for 2,999 and used ones can be had for much much less.

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  • wombatwombat __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2007
    thanks guys for all the info

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  • Bouncing_SoulBouncing_Soul Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    wombat wrote: »
    but what about 550cc? is that too much for a beginner?

    I think I said this in a different motorcycle thread, but I'm 5'9" 165 lbs, my first bike was (is) an 1100, and I got it maybe 2 years after I took the MSF course with no riding experience in between.

    I've been doing fine with it, but everyone's different.

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  • scarlet st.scarlet st. Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Wombat, did you already take the course(s) to get your motorcycle license

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  • FatsFats Corvallis, ORRegistered User regular
    edited February 2007
    wombat wrote: »
    alright sorry to bug you guys all again

    but what about 550cc? is that too much for a beginner? specifically this bike:

    550cc is great.

    I've got a soft spot for old enduros, like your ebay links there. Great fun for tearing around the neighborhood. Their little 100cc engines and short gearing aren't suited for the road, though.
    I think I said this in a different motorcycle thread, but I'm 5'9" 165 lbs, my first bike was (is) an 1100, and I got it maybe 2 years after I took the MSF course with no riding experience in between.

    There are always stories like yours, but I just can't recommend an 1100 to a beginner in good conscience. Of course it depends a little on the bike; a V-Star 1100 would be miles better than, say, a CBR1100XX.

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  • redimpulseredimpulse Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    A 500cc bike is a good all around starter. Enough power to get you where you need to be and teach you about riding responsibly. Check around for a Kawasaki EX-500. Basically a Ninja before they started calling them Ninjas, it was produced I think 1987-1992. I had a 1991 that was in great condition; I paid 1100 for it with 26k on the odo. Others can be had for less I'm sure.

    The EX-500 is incredibly easy to ride. It was my first bike, and I stalled it maybe 3 times and never laid it down. Only weighs about 275 lbs, too. Easy to pick up. Good acceleration, easy to maneuver, and cheap to maintain.

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  • CycophantCycophant Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Yeah, I'm going to have to agree with everyone else about the 500cc bikes. Although I haven't ridden, I seriously considered purchasing a motorcycle a little while ago. While insurance and seasonal (stupid Canadian winter) reasons eventually made me decide to wait, I did a fair bit of research on the subject beforehand and almost everything I heard and read stated that 500cc is a great size to start at. Not too much power to get you into trouble really quickly, but still enough to power to have fun, and get yourself out of a hairy situation if need be.

    Another great point that was put forward to me, though this may not be entirely the case in your location, but a lot of insurance companies have a very sizeable difference in premiums for the various engine sizes. Most companies I looked at said that at approximately 600cc+, the rates drastically jumped in price.

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  • redimpulseredimpulse Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    True about the insurance. Mine (liability only, I only rode it to work and back) ran me #28/month at 21 years old. I checked on a 600cc bike, and it would have raised it to almost 80/month.

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  • wombatwombat __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2007
    Wombat, did you already take the course(s) to get your motorcycle license

    Ill be doing it in the next few weeks, but I currently have my permit

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  • scarlet st.scarlet st. Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    wombat wrote: »
    Wombat, did you already take the course(s) to get your motorcycle license

    Ill be doing it in the next few weeks, but I currently have my permit

    Wombat are you coming to 300 or Disneyland

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  • wombatwombat __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2007
    wombat wrote: »
    Wombat, did you already take the course(s) to get your motorcycle license

    Ill be doing it in the next few weeks, but I currently have my permit

    Wombat are you coming to 300 or Disneyland

    disneyland is on the 18th right? when is everyone going to 300??

    Im not sure if Ill be riding that well by then, I was kind of hoping someone in Santa Monica would be able to give me a ride :oops:

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  • scarlet st.scarlet st. Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    wombat wrote: »
    wombat wrote: »
    Wombat, did you already take the course(s) to get your motorcycle license

    Ill be doing it in the next few weeks, but I currently have my permit

    Wombat are you coming to 300 or Disneyland

    disneyland is on the 18th right? when is everyone going to 300??

    Im not sure if Ill be riding that well by then, I was kind of hoping someone in Santa Monica would be able to give me a ride :oops:

    We're not sure exactly when either will occur, PM me your cell phone number, dogg.

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