Does anyone want to claim that FFVII actually needs all the elements that would give it an M rating? Because I won't.
Its fine as is.
The only downsides are the silly lego-men and the poor translation.
Ironically, the PC version can get you around both of these.
But that just serves to demonstrate the other issues with the game. Which is still damn, damn good anyway.
Gore wise, I'd say Advent Children Complete is pretty spot-on for the level of actual bleeding and blood that the game would need. But that movie was unrated, so I don't know how it'd translate to ESRB.
Can't remember which is was, II or III, probably III. But either way, there are 2 major scenes where there's a copious amount of blood present. Deadset on that T rating, Namco simply digitally erased it all. It flat out ruins one scene, because we're supposed to be seeing it flow and pool into somebody's hands, and they even comment on it. They could have just taken the M rating for it, but the suits desperately wanted that T.
Granted though, this is Namco we're talking about. Maybe S-E won't be that drastic. Or even bother. But the point is that if they want that T rating, come hell or high water they'll get it.
"The sausage of Green Earth explodes with flavor like the cannon of culinary delight."
Can't remember which is was, II or III, probably III. But either way, there are 2 major scenes where there's a copious amount of blood present. Deadset on that T rating, Namco simply digitally erased it all. It flat out ruins one scene, because we're supposed to be seeing it flow and pool into somebody's hands, and they even comment on it. They could have just taken the M rating for it, but the suits desperately wanted that T.
Granted though, this is Namco we're talking about. Maybe S-E won't be that drastic. Or even bother. But the point is that if they want that T rating, come hell or high water they'll get it.
It is a valid warning lesson to S-E...but I don't think they'd have that problem the source material. All the same, it's a frightening thought.
Supposedly their marriage was put on hold while Snow goes out to search for Lightning.
It's not a terrible excuse, until you factor in that it's been put off for two years.
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Final Fantasy XIII-2 change throughout the game. The magazine mentioned the Archylte Steppe, which has four different weather conditions – fine weather, sandstorm, thunderstorm, and one other not disclosed by the magazine. Monsters and music change depending on the weather.
Okay, see, this is a good idea.
You got that Square? That's a good idea. Please have more of those.
Picked up FF XIII today on a whim. Well, not a whim exactly, I saw it had gone Greatest Hits and bought the first copy I saw without a red box. As stupid as it is, that really is a good way to get me to pull the trigger on a purchase I've been considering; I hate the greatest hits packaging. Now tell me I didn't make a mistake. Please?
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Yeah...like...as far as JRPGs go...it isn't the worse one I've bought this gen(that would be Star Ocean 4) but the game had problems...a lot of problems. Which is a shame because I really like some parts of it.
Agreed. Also, Star Ocean 3 was all the warning I needed to avoid Star Ocean 4. I'll just pretend the series ended at 2, which was my fifth favourite PS1 JRPG (Suikoden 2's by far the best).
Oh man, Star Ocean 4 is uncanny valley central. Everyone is so fucking creepy. Its horrifying. I never really liked that series, though 1 and 2 had killer battle themes.
Also, I think you can safely blame Star Ocean for how every JRPG is now a hack and slash action game.
If for some reason they decide to make a HD FF7(which I doubt they ever will).
I hope there's more Turks being awesome...that's probably the only good thing that came from the compilation.
FTFY. I wouldn't mind the AC costumes as being a (fairly obvious) bonus unlock. Though, as I've said before, I doubt it'll happen...seems S-E is better off just hanging the carrot around. Then again, I wasn't expecting a (much likely) FFX remake either.
Ffx can just be upscaled. 7 and 8 are so unlikely because they have to pretty much remake all the assets from scratch. Also model everything that used to just be static backgrounds. I doubt it'll ever happen, unless SE goes totally broke and only has enough to try to milk a fortune with one last title.
No, I understand exactly why X was chosen (over VII or VIII) completely. At the same time, it surprised me, since this wasn't ground tread by S-E a lot in my mind. Erroneous too, and just a reflection of me not playing the remakes on the GBA.
I'm definitely in agreement in saying that I think the costs and time involved would scare S-E off it. Even if they would recover all of it and then some.
There's a lot of quite outrageous stuff in FF7. Barret's cursing wouldn't work when voiced, the brutal violence (impaled Zolom, Shinra Tower, death of Aerith) would be gory as hell in HD and they'd neuter the cross-dressing, Honey Bee and Don Corneo scenes.
You can have photo-realistic HD violence without it having to be being mega-gory. The Uncharted games are all about shooting people and they're only 15-rated (over here at least). Family-friendly TV programmes like soap operas and stuff manage to fit violence in. You can still suspend disbelief without being totally true to life.
Uncharted 2 is the single most jarring gaming experience I've ever had. Nate is supposed to be this really cool, wise-cracking guy, but he goes on a murderous rampage over being cheated out of something he was trying to steal. He's a goddamn sociopath and it absolutely took me out of the experience. (Pretty game though.)
About changing music and monsters at different seasons/time of day, didn't 13 demo that at the Sunleth Waterscape? Was pretty cool.
Funny how Final Fantasy games always bored me to death, yet I'm played Cthulhu Saves the World right now and loving every minute of it.
Maybe it's the funny wacky humor vs. retarded teenager story, or maybe it's the lack of 10 min long cutscenes every now and then.
Or maybe FF just suck.
Picked up FF XIII today on a whim. Well, not a whim exactly, I saw it had gone Greatest Hits and bought the first copy I saw without a red box. As stupid as it is, that really is a good way to get me to pull the trigger on a purchase I've been considering; I hate the greatest hits packaging. Now tell me I didn't make a mistake. Please?
Its a great game but it is JPRG so its typically over-dramatic and verbose. Lots of symbolism and shit. Don't ask me to explain the plot though because I'm right at the end and its gone mental.
We've designed a fairly interesting three man party mechanic based around having three characters with multiple roles that you can switch on the fly! Our AI is really good and will figure out the right spells and abilities to use on the monsters if you give them a little support, and they'll remember it for future encounters!
Then they have you in two man parties for 70% of the game.
There's a lot of quite outrageous stuff in FF7. Barret's cursing wouldn't work when voiced, the brutal violence (impaled Zolom, Shinra Tower, death of Aerith) would be gory as hell in HD and they'd neuter the cross-dressing, Honey Bee and Don Corneo scenes.
You can have photo-realistic HD violence without it having to be being mega-gory. The Uncharted games are all about shooting people and they're only 15-rated (over here at least). Family-friendly TV programmes like soap operas and stuff manage to fit violence in. You can still suspend disbelief without being totally true to life.
Uncharted 2 is the single most jarring gaming experience I've ever had. Nate is supposed to be this really cool, wise-cracking guy, but he goes on a murderous rampage over being cheated out of something he was trying to steal. He's a goddamn sociopath and it absolutely took me out of the experience. (Pretty game though.)
I'll never understand this argument. The only people you actually kill in the game are mercenaries that kill anyone in their path, so I'm failing to see how it differs from other characters of a similar mould (like Indy) or basically any other game with an emphasis on story (Half-Life, GTA IV, Mass Effect, Deus Ex, etc).
Oh and why would Aeris' death be gory as hell in HD? AC Complete already had a pretty similar scene with Cloud getting impaled. The various pieces of Jenova would be worse.
My brother was telling me last night that there's some sort of Ezio Auditore DLC planned for XIII-2. Like, a costume and weapon pack for one of the characters, is there truth to this claim?
Everyone has a price. Throw enough gold around and someone will risk disintegration.
There's a lot of quite outrageous stuff in FF7. Barret's cursing wouldn't work when voiced, the brutal violence (impaled Zolom, Shinra Tower, death of Aerith) would be gory as hell in HD and they'd neuter the cross-dressing, Honey Bee and Don Corneo scenes.
You can have photo-realistic HD violence without it having to be being mega-gory. The Uncharted games are all about shooting people and they're only 15-rated (over here at least). Family-friendly TV programmes like soap operas and stuff manage to fit violence in. You can still suspend disbelief without being totally true to life.
Uncharted 2 is the single most jarring gaming experience I've ever had. Nate is supposed to be this really cool, wise-cracking guy, but he goes on a murderous rampage over being cheated out of something he was trying to steal. He's a goddamn sociopath and it absolutely took me out of the experience. (Pretty game though.)
I'll never understand this argument. The only people you actually kill in the game are mercenaries that kill anyone in their path, so I'm failing to see how it differs from other characters of a similar mould (like Indy) or basically any other game with an emphasis on story (Half-Life, GTA IV, Mass Effect, Deus Ex, etc).
Oh and why would Aeris' death be gory as hell in HD? AC Complete already had a pretty similar scene with Cloud getting impaled. The various pieces of Jenova would be worse.
Never played Half Life, don't play GTA on account of the characters being actual sociopaths, you're a soldier fighting aliens/aggressors in ME (for example, I've never once stabbed that Batarian fixing the gunship in the back in ME2), got Pacifist in DXHR. Besides, why would I want to play as someone who is - at best - as bad as the mercs? They're just doing what they're paid for, he's coming in and killing them because he's an asshole.
And I found that scene in AC Complete pretty nasty.
Yeah...like...as far as JRPGs go...it isn't the worse one I've bought this gen(that would be Star Ocean 4)
Oh my God, Star Ocean 4. That game was wretched. I picked it up not long ago because Star Ocean: Till the End of Time was one of my favorite PS2 titles. But, man ... SO4 was bad. I played it for about 3 hours, and I felt like I had only just progressed past the intro. Would have been okay if the gameplay was decent, but ... no.
Yeah...like...as far as JRPGs go...it isn't the worse one I've bought this gen(that would be Star Ocean 4)
Oh my God, Star Ocean 4. That game was wretched. I picked it up not long ago because Star Ocean: Till the End of Time was one of my favorite PS2 titles. But, man ... SO4 was bad. I played it for about 3 hours, and I felt like I had only just progressed past the intro. Would have been okay if the gameplay was decent, but ... no.
One word. Welch.
FFXIII, despite all the complaints, is a good game. It's not the game of the year, but it's still a good game. So yes, it's worth buying.
I'm just curious if FF will ever have a unique battle system or if they'll continue to just steal them from everyone else.
Pretty sure FF4 introduced the ATB system, bro. Dragon Warrior (and Wizardry), the game FF is based off of, is pure turn based.
Anyway, speaking about verbosity and poor pacing, that shit really started with the playstation and is why the genre is so horrid in general these days. I'm playing a 16 bit RPG right now, and the cutscenes are like....2 minutes long, yet they convey better characterization than 3 hours of plodding cgi angst. There's less dialogue in this game than Gears of War, yet the story is extremely engaging.
Now, many 16 bit RPGs suck balls, but the point is that listening to hours of horrible writing is boring. That's why I don't watch TV. Even the most text heavy old RPGs, like FF6, are all action compared to later titles.
There's a lot of quite outrageous stuff in FF7. Barret's cursing wouldn't work when voiced, the brutal violence (impaled Zolom, Shinra Tower, death of Aerith) would be gory as hell in HD and they'd neuter the cross-dressing, Honey Bee and Don Corneo scenes.
You can have photo-realistic HD violence without it having to be being mega-gory. The Uncharted games are all about shooting people and they're only 15-rated (over here at least). Family-friendly TV programmes like soap operas and stuff manage to fit violence in. You can still suspend disbelief without being totally true to life.
Uncharted 2 is the single most jarring gaming experience I've ever had. Nate is supposed to be this really cool, wise-cracking guy, but he goes on a murderous rampage over being cheated out of something he was trying to steal. He's a goddamn sociopath and it absolutely took me out of the experience. (Pretty game though.)
I'll never understand this argument. The only people you actually kill in the game are mercenaries that kill anyone in their path, so I'm failing to see how it differs from other characters of a similar mould (like Indy) or basically any other game with an emphasis on story (Half-Life, GTA IV, Mass Effect, Deus Ex, etc).
Oh and why would Aeris' death be gory as hell in HD? AC Complete already had a pretty similar scene with Cloud getting impaled. The various pieces of Jenova would be worse.
Never played Half Life, don't play GTA on account of the characters being actual sociopaths, you're a soldier fighting aliens/aggressors in ME (for example, I've never once stabbed that Batarian fixing the gunship in the back in ME2), got Pacifist in DXHR. Besides, why would I want to play as someone who is - at best - as bad as the mercs? They're just doing what they're paid for, he's coming in and killing them because he's an asshole.
And I found that scene in AC Complete pretty nasty.
Yes, but you seem the mercenaries in Uncharted 2 are Russians.
And if its one thing major blockbuster games* have demonstrated, it's that Russians aren't actually people.
Yes, but you see the mercenaries in Uncharted 2 are Russians.
Better dead than red.
Or, for that matter, Tatar, Uzbek, or Central Asian.
The point is, this is a major crux of American gaming. It'd be like telling Hollywood, "You should refrain from killing the black guy first every single time." That one kick to the door, and the whole rotten structure would come down.
Uncharted is a Pulp series. In Pulp, your heroes are selfish villains less evil than the normal villains, and with better publicity.
Hmm.... I'm trying to imagine a Pulp FF-like RPG.
FF Type-0 officially coming out Worldwide? YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
I wonder if they'll Vita up-port it like Capcom did with Ace Attorney. Wouldn't surprise me.
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Its fine as is.
The only downsides are the silly lego-men and the poor translation.
And I mean sometimes a whorehouse is just a whorehouse.
Ironically, the PC version can get you around both of these.
But that just serves to demonstrate the other issues with the game. Which is still damn, damn good anyway.
Gore wise, I'd say Advent Children Complete is pretty spot-on for the level of actual bleeding and blood that the game would need. But that movie was unrated, so I don't know how it'd translate to ESRB.
Can't remember which is was, II or III, probably III. But either way, there are 2 major scenes where there's a copious amount of blood present. Deadset on that T rating, Namco simply digitally erased it all. It flat out ruins one scene, because we're supposed to be seeing it flow and pool into somebody's hands, and they even comment on it. They could have just taken the M rating for it, but the suits desperately wanted that T.
Granted though, this is Namco we're talking about. Maybe S-E won't be that drastic. Or even bother. But the point is that if they want that T rating, come hell or high water they'll get it.
Oh and I guess a 45 minute long Loveless cutscene.
Why must you destroy everything, XoB?
It is a valid warning lesson to S-E...but I don't think they'd have that problem the source material. All the same, it's a frightening thought.
He wants to see us suffer. That's why.
I don't even think the creators know. If it's even true.
Yet another reason to pretend XIII-2 doesn't exist.
It's not a terrible excuse, until you factor in that it's been put off for two years.
Edit:
Okay, see, this is a good idea.
You got that Square? That's a good idea. Please have more of those.
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Realtalk: Genesis appearing in FF7R would be fantastic.
That man can talk about Loveless all he wants.
Also: Supposedly the Ultimania guide for Type-0 mentions work on an overseas version.
Try and act surprised: those guys worked really hard on the game.
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Also, I think you can safely blame Star Ocean for how every JRPG is now a hack and slash action game.
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I hope they use the AC costumes...that's probably the only good thing that came from the compilation.
FTFY. I wouldn't mind the AC costumes as being a (fairly obvious) bonus unlock. Though, as I've said before, I doubt it'll happen...seems S-E is better off just hanging the carrot around. Then again, I wasn't expecting a (much likely) FFX remake either.
I'm definitely in agreement in saying that I think the costs and time involved would scare S-E off it. Even if they would recover all of it and then some.
Uncharted 2 is the single most jarring gaming experience I've ever had. Nate is supposed to be this really cool, wise-cracking guy, but he goes on a murderous rampage over being cheated out of something he was trying to steal. He's a goddamn sociopath and it absolutely took me out of the experience. (Pretty game though.)
About changing music and monsters at different seasons/time of day, didn't 13 demo that at the Sunleth Waterscape? Was pretty cool.
Maybe it's the funny wacky humor vs. retarded teenager story, or maybe it's the lack of 10 min long cutscenes every now and then.
Or maybe FF just suck.
Its a great game but it is JPRG so its typically over-dramatic and verbose. Lots of symbolism and shit. Don't ask me to explain the plot though because I'm right at the end and its gone mental.
We've designed a fairly interesting three man party mechanic based around having three characters with multiple roles that you can switch on the fly! Our AI is really good and will figure out the right spells and abilities to use on the monsters if you give them a little support, and they'll remember it for future encounters!
Then they have you in two man parties for 70% of the game.
I'll never understand this argument. The only people you actually kill in the game are mercenaries that kill anyone in their path, so I'm failing to see how it differs from other characters of a similar mould (like Indy) or basically any other game with an emphasis on story (Half-Life, GTA IV, Mass Effect, Deus Ex, etc).
Oh and why would Aeris' death be gory as hell in HD? AC Complete already had a pretty similar scene with Cloud getting impaled. The various pieces of Jenova would be worse.
Never played Half Life, don't play GTA on account of the characters being actual sociopaths, you're a soldier fighting aliens/aggressors in ME (for example, I've never once stabbed that Batarian fixing the gunship in the back in ME2), got Pacifist in DXHR. Besides, why would I want to play as someone who is - at best - as bad as the mercs? They're just doing what they're paid for, he's coming in and killing them because he's an asshole.
And I found that scene in AC Complete pretty nasty.
Oh my God, Star Ocean 4. That game was wretched. I picked it up not long ago because Star Ocean: Till the End of Time was one of my favorite PS2 titles. But, man ... SO4 was bad. I played it for about 3 hours, and I felt like I had only just progressed past the intro. Would have been okay if the gameplay was decent, but ... no.
One word. Welch.
FFXIII, despite all the complaints, is a good game. It's not the game of the year, but it's still a good game. So yes, it's worth buying.
Pretty sure FF4 introduced the ATB system, bro. Dragon Warrior (and Wizardry), the game FF is based off of, is pure turn based.
Anyway, speaking about verbosity and poor pacing, that shit really started with the playstation and is why the genre is so horrid in general these days. I'm playing a 16 bit RPG right now, and the cutscenes are like....2 minutes long, yet they convey better characterization than 3 hours of plodding cgi angst. There's less dialogue in this game than Gears of War, yet the story is extremely engaging.
Now, many 16 bit RPGs suck balls, but the point is that listening to hours of horrible writing is boring. That's why I don't watch TV. Even the most text heavy old RPGs, like FF6, are all action compared to later titles.
Yes, but you seem the mercenaries in Uncharted 2 are Russians.
And if its one thing major blockbuster games* have demonstrated, it's that Russians aren't actually people.
*BF3 might be the exception to this.
Better dead than red.
Or, for that matter, Tatar, Uzbek, or Central Asian.
The point is, this is a major crux of American gaming. It'd be like telling Hollywood, "You should refrain from killing the black guy first every single time." That one kick to the door, and the whole rotten structure would come down.
It's an art, not a science.
Nomura confirms Versus will have Moogles: http://andriasang.com/comz50/ff_versus_xiii_moogles/
Hey, at least it's good news.
And a new gameplay video of FFXIII-2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mXfjoPdjD7I
Showcasing all the new battle features. Like.....being slightly faster. And.....only having two party members.....
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Hmm.... I'm trying to imagine a Pulp FF-like RPG.
FF Type-0 officially coming out Worldwide? YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
I wonder if they'll Vita up-port it like Capcom did with Ace Attorney. Wouldn't surprise me.
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