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Maz-

Dream Team Bros is pretty great so far..but also fucking crazy. They're really taking advantage of the whole "Luigi is dreaming" thing.

Maz-

Double post hooo!

Just had my first

giant Luigi

battle. It was amazing

3D is automatically turned off during that sequence, by the way (I think someone here or in the 3DS thread was asking about that).

Care Free Bomb

MNC Dover wrote: »

Might reduce griefing though.

The biggest bummer right here. Me and my friends operate on a strict "Kill each other as much as possible on our way to the goal" policy in NSMB. Well, a specific group of friends do. What I'm saying is I really like the option of being a dick with no consequence to myself.

Krathoon

3D World is essentially a more fleshed out 3D Land. I really hope they play off the retro stuff like 3D Land.

Krathoon

Really, we are getting way too many Mario games. I am getting a large backlog now.

maximumzero

Playing some NMSBU. Jesus Christ does the Challenges mode get ridiculous.

Kupi

I gotta say, NSMBU uses the "transparent wall" gimmick to hide Star Coins way, way too much.

Lanrutcon

I posses the new Mario RPG. I haves it. I playses it.

Eat that, dirty American pigdogs! (mwhuahahahaha)

It is an odd game, but lots of fun.

Maz-

What did you choose for your "rank up" upgrades reward..thingies?

In retrospect, I should've probably gone with +1 additional attack at every level up, but the additional equipment slot was just too good to pass up.

Lanrutcon

First pick was +20% xp. Seemed like a no-brainer. I'm eyeing the +2 hp one next. The extra equipment slot looks amazing, but I can grab it muuuch later.

Maz-

In a game like this with basically infinite xp, I don't think a bonus like that is essential. It helps, of course, but if you're like me and defeat every enemy you come across, it won't matter too much. I haven't really felt underleveled so far playing that way and I'm about 15 hours in.

It's definitely a good idea to grab bonuses like the +2 hp one early on, yeah. The extra equipment slot is a huge boost though..it's definitely a huge advantage early on to have the additional defense from pants plus a neat bonus like +30% attack or so.

There's no clear cut answer, really. The bonuses are all pretty great, in one way or another.

Lanrutcon

Reason I grabbed the +20xp is to stay ahead of the xp curve without having to go out of my way to grind, mostly. It's a convenience thing.

skeldare

MNC Dover

skeldare wrote: »

Answers off the top of my head:

1 - Super Mario Bros. 2
2 - Mario Kart DS
3 - Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga
4 - Super Mario 64 DS
5 - Super Mario Bros
6 - New Super Mario Bros 2
7 - New Super Mario Bros Wii
8 - Super Mario Strikers
9 - Super Smash Bros
10 - Mario Golf Toadstool Tour
11 - Super Smash Bros. Brawl
12 - Mario Party 9
13 - New Super Mario Bros U
14 - Super Mario World
15 - Mario Kart 64
16 - Mario Hoops 3 on 3
17 - Luigi's Mansion
18 - Mario and Luigi Bowser's Inside Story
19 - Mario Kart 7
20 - Mario Bros
21 - Super Mario 3D Land
22 - Mario and Luigi Partners in Time
23 - New Super Mario Bros U
24 - Mario Kart Wii
25 - Super Paper Mario
26 - Mario Kart Double Dash
27 - Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon
28 - Mario and Luigi Dream Team Bros.
29 - Mario Party 3
30 - New Super Luigi. U

Warlock82

MNC Dover wrote: »

skeldare wrote: »

Answers off the top of my head:

1 - Super Mario Bros. 2
2 - Mario Kart DS
3 - Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga
4 - Super Mario 64 DS
5 - Super Mario Bros
6 - New Super Mario Bros 2
7 - New Super Mario Bros Wii
8 - Super Mario Strikers
9 - Super Smash Bros
10 - Mario Golf Toadstool Tour
11 - Super Smash Bros. Brawl
12 - Mario Party 9
13 - New Super Mario Bros U
14 - Super Mario World
15 - Mario Kart 64
16 - Mario Hoops 3 on 3
17 - Luigi's Mansion
18 - Mario and Luigi Bowser's Inside Story
19 - Mario Kart 7
20 - Mario Bros
21 - Super Mario 3D Land U
22 - Mario and Luigi Partners in Time
23 - New Super Mario Bros U
24 - Mario Kart Wii
25 - Super Paper Mario
26 - Mario Kart Double Dash
27 - Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon
28 - Mario and Luigi Dream Team Bros.
29 - Mario Party 3
30 - New Super Luigi. U

I assume you just meant Super Mario 3D Land for 24 :P

skeldare

Warlock82 wrote: »

MNC Dover wrote: »

skeldare wrote: »

Answers off the top of my head:

1 - Super Mario Bros. 2
2 - Mario Kart DS
3 - Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga
4 - Super Mario 64 DS
5 - Super Mario Bros
6 - New Super Mario Bros 2
7 - New Super Mario Bros Wii
8 - Super Mario Strikers
9 - Super Smash Bros
10 - Mario Golf Toadstool Tour
11 - Super Smash Bros. Brawl
12 - Mario Party 9
13 - New Super Mario Bros U
14 - Super Mario World
15 - Mario Kart 64
16 - Mario Hoops 3 on 3
17 - Luigi's Mansion
18 - Mario and Luigi Bowser's Inside Story
19 - Mario Kart 7
20 - Mario Bros
21 - Super Mario 3D Land U
22 - Mario and Luigi Partners in Time
23 - New Super Mario Bros U
24 - Mario Kart Wii
25 - Super Paper Mario
26 - Mario Kart Double Dash
27 - Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon
28 - Mario and Luigi Dream Team Bros.
29 - Mario Party 3
30 - New Super Luigi. U

I assume you just meant Super Mario 3D Land for 24 :P

21

MNC Dover

Oh wait, that's a Raccoon suit not a Cat suit. Derp!

Warlock82

Yeah, I meant 21 :P And if you thought it was a cat suit, it would have been Super Mario 3D World, not Land U

Sterica

Technically Luigi uses some variety of fox for his leaf powerups, though it has the same functionality as Raccoon Mario. Not sure why, just a weird quirk for that one powerup.

skeldare

Warlock82 wrote: »

Yeah, I meant 21 :P And if you thought it was a cat suit, it would have been Super Mario 3D World, not Land U

I think that was his way of joking that 3D World is just an upgraded version of 3D Land.

skeldare

Super Mario Bros. 3 is the Best of All Marios.

Warlock82

Lies, Super Mario World was better :P

maximumzero

Rorus Raz wrote: »

Technically Luigi uses some variety of fox for his leaf powerups, though it has the same functionality as Raccoon Mario. Not sure why, just a weird quirk for that one powerup.

Luigi is given an alternative Tanooki costume in this game, the costume more resembling a kitsune (a Japanese fox) rather than a Tanooki. While most languages, including the original Japanese, call this form Kitsune Luigi, the English translation still refers to it as Tanooki Luigi.

Source

Warlock82

maximumzero wrote: »

Rorus Raz wrote: »

Technically Luigi uses some variety of fox for his leaf powerups, though it has the same functionality as Raccoon Mario. Not sure why, just a weird quirk for that one powerup.

Luigi is given an alternative Tanooki costume in this game, the costume more resembling a kitsune (a Japanese fox) rather than a Tanooki. While most languages, including the original Japanese, call this form Kitsune Luigi, the English translation still refers to it as Tanooki Luigi.

Source

Because once again, localization team thinks we are morons :P

"Well, they know what a Tankooki is because someone dropped the ball with Super Mario Bros 3, but clearly they can't know what a Kitsune is!!"

Honestly I'm surprised they didn't just label him "Ninetails Luigi" or something :P

skeldare

An interesting interview about the translation of Mario and Luigi Dream Team

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/08/01/translating-mario-luigi-dream-teams-humor-for-the-west

Nintendo’s Senior Localization Manager Nate Bihldorff remembers a happier time for game translations. During a recent interview with IGN on his contributions to Mario & Luigi: Dream Team, he briefly reflects on his experience with Mario & Luigi: Super Superstar Saga -- the first entry in the Mario role-playing game spin-off developed by AlphaDream which released on Gameboy Advance in 2003.

“[Back then] we would actually get final Japanese code and be able to play it and understand how it works and look over the final text. The way things work now is a lot more scattershot.”

In case you're unaware, localizers tackle an important area of expertise in the video game industry. They specialize in the rewriting of Japanese-developed stories, dialogue, and cultural references for an international audience. According to Bihldorff, as Nintendo shifts their resources to accommodate simultaneous international releases -- like the upcoming Pokemon X and Y -- localization and development for a game today often occurs at the same time. Developers submit in-progress builds of a game they're working on, with scenarios that could change the next day.

Despite the new challenges of this process, it’s clear that Nintendo’s internal translation team (named Treehouse) is one of the best in the industry. Each game they localize bears a signature mark of relatable dialogue and clever puns that few competitors can imitate.

AlphaDream's slapstick style helps provide direction. Much like prior entries in the series, Mario & Luigi: Dream Team uses expressive, beautiful sprite-based characters to display a range of emotions. The style and scenarios fit right in with classic episodes of Merrie Melodies or Tom and Jerry. In Superstar Saga, Luigi masquerades as Princess Peach and covers his face to hide his bushy mustache from suspicious enemies. In Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time, Luigi loses a battle to his younger newborn self. Both scenarios use exaggerated gestures and reactions to convey the comedy.

But how often does Bihldorff have to re-create characters because of the significant cultural divide? He told us it’s actually quite rare. “Conceptually, all the characters are generally just one tweak away from being awesome. It’s a matter of making it fit better.” To illustrate his point further, he uses two characters from Dream Team, called the Massif Brothers, as an example.

“We ended up making them have these crazy meathead Russian accents. They certainly weren’t Russian in the Japanese. It was actually born out of the fact that there are scenarios involving them flexing their muscles and screaming out these massive punchlines that are giant letters, maybe four Japanese characters wide,“ Bihldorff said.

“The text was so big that these punch lines had to be really short. I ended up landing on that accent because the Russian accent can truncate sentences so much just by removing articles and entire sections of normal English. As it turned out, with their mustaches, they kind of looked like classic Russian strongmen anyways, so it fit naturally. They were already meatheads in the Japanese [version]. We just changed them a little bit to fit our language.”

Nintendo Treeshouse translations often contain contemporary dialogue and subtext to add flavor to some of their characters, but then what’s the biggest challenge when writing for an RPG like Dream Team?

“With an RPG, you have so many ancillary characters. You have to get a unique personality in them with five messages. They have a message when you first meet them, a message when you complete chapter two, a message when some other event happens, an end of game message, and that’s it, “ Bihldorff said.

“That’s their whole personality. Keeping them interesting enough that people will want to go up and talk to them – especially the modern gamer who maybe doesn’t feel like they have time to talk to everyone – 'Send me to the next dungeon, man, I don’t have time for this' – keeping dialogue appealing for that guy is a constant challenge in localization.”

Maz-

The Massif Brothers are the best 8->

I'm almost finished with the game and yeah, the localization is once again absolutely fantastic. Treehouse did a great job.

klemming

I'm liking the game, but can anyone tell me if the music improves?
The music in the desert area was the only music in a Mario game I've really had get on my nerves.

Maz-

klemming wrote: »

I'm liking the game, but can anyone tell me if the music improves?
The music in the desert area was the only music in a Mario game I've really had get on my nerves.

I'm not a big fan of that track either but other than that, the soundtrack is great, imo. The song that plays during battle is catchy as hell.

skeldare

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-6qE65SG09Q

Krathoon

I think even some of the commercials from the 80's did that over enthusiastic narration.

Blackbird SR-71C

On the localization of dream team: I always play games set to their language of creation. For Dream Team, I gave the localization a shot, and it's really, really good so far! Quite charming in fact, I'd advise you to give it a try. That's only referring to the german translation of course, haven't tried out anything else.

Maz-

Blackbird SR-71C wrote: »

On the localization of dream team: I always play games set to their language of creation. For Dream Team, I gave the localization a shot, and it's really, really good so far! Quite charming in fact, I'd advise you to give it a try. That's only referring to the german translation of course, haven't tried out anything else.

I played Superstar Saga and parts of Partners in Time in German and it was incredible, the localization team did a fantastic job. Shitty translations are so abundant these days that it's great to occasionally find a real gem like this.

King Riptor

Nintendo generally has the best translators in the industry.

And excluding a jerk that likes hearing baby a lot their record speaks for itself

cloudeagle

King Riptor wrote: »

Nintendo generally has the best translators in the industry.

And excluding a jerk that likes hearing baby a lot their record speaks for itself

That's because he told the regular translators to fuck off.

Which was really just a reminder of how great they are.

Blackbird SR-71C

Mario and Luigi: Dream Team Spoilers (In the song title):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldvZjgdT_-I

Best music in the game so far, just amazing.

skeldare

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BrdrMh00egw

AbsoluteZero

Why can't they make a game like Mario & Luigi for Wii U? It's a shame their flagship home console doesn't get some of this crazy imaginative Mario RPG shenanigans.

SyphonBlue

The consoles usually get Paper Mario.

Though the 3DS got one.

But it was pretty bad.

But so was the Wii's

So..

uh....

Just go play Thousand Year Door.

skeldare

SyphonBlue wrote: »

The consoles usually get Paper Mario.

Though the 3DS got one.

But it was pretty bad.

But so was the Wii's

So..

uh....

Just go play Thousand Year Door.

Hey! Super Paper Mario was fun.

SyphonBlue

skeldare wrote: »

SyphonBlue wrote: »

The consoles usually get Paper Mario.

Though the 3DS got one.

But it was pretty bad.

But so was the Wii's

So..

uh....

Just go play Thousand Year Door.

Hey! Super Paper Mario was fun.

Stop lying.